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| The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #68924] |
Sun, 04 June 2006 00:18  |
Kim
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Well I'm still working on it, and I seem to be progresing fairly well I think.
I bought this little program for $12:
http://www.brenthugh.com/eartest/
It simply throws notes at you. I've now got it hooked up through my fave
digital piano with MIDI. It plays a note on my piano, and I have to try and
hit that note. It doesn't care if I get the octave right, but I try and do
that anyhow.
You can decide how many/which notes you want it to test you on, and weight
them so that some play more than others according to what you're bad at.
I'm currently using the entire C major scale, and I'm getting about 98% correct
when I'm not hung over. ;o) Earlier today I got over 100 questions correct
in a row. Generally I get about 50 right and get overconfident or lose concentration
and stuff one up, but if I'm concentrating I can get them pretty much all
right.
I've read a few tips about the place net. It seems the skills generally come
first to you on your natural instrument, and then slowly migrate over to
others. Having said that I just had my first experience of what I'd call
"real" perfect pitch earlier today, when, in between tests, while plugging
in some MIDI stuff, my phone beeped an SMS and I went "Hey, that's F!!".
;o) I don't find I recognise the keys and notes in songs on the radio yet
however, but no doubt that will come.
My aim is to get up to 98% averages on the entire chromatic scale at 440Hz
by the end of the month, and then I'll start to worry about translating that
on to tunes on the radio. I figure when you hear someone sing a note, it's
not hard to imagine a piano playing the note, so if that's what I have to
do to start with, so be it.
The good thing is I'm growing increasingly confident that it's working, and
I'm pretty stoked about that. :o)
Cheers,
Kim.
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #68925 is a reply to message #68924] |
Sun, 04 June 2006 03:06  |
rick
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this is sooooooooo very disappointing...i thought it was going to be
about a perfect pitcher of beer. but, i'm glad you're still happy
with the product.
On 4 Jun 2006 17:18:00 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Well I'm still working on it, and I seem to be progresing fairly well I think.
>
>I bought this little program for $12:
>http://www.brenthugh.com/eartest/
>
>It simply throws notes at you. I've now got it hooked up through my fave
>digital piano with MIDI. It plays a note on my piano, and I have to try and
>hit that note. It doesn't care if I get the octave right, but I try and do
>that anyhow.
>
>You can decide how many/which notes you want it to test you on, and weight
>them so that some play more than others according to what you're bad at.
>I'm currently using the entire C major scale, and I'm getting about 98% correct
>when I'm not hung over. ;o) Earlier today I got over 100 questions correct
>in a row. Generally I get about 50 right and get overconfident or lose concentration
>and stuff one up, but if I'm concentrating I can get them pretty much all
>right.
>
>I've read a few tips about the place net. It seems the skills generally come
>first to you on your natural instrument, and then slowly migrate over to
>others. Having said that I just had my first experience of what I'd call
>"real" perfect pitch earlier today, when, in between tests, while plugging
>in some MIDI stuff, my phone beeped an SMS and I went "Hey, that's F!!".
>;o) I don't find I recognise the keys and notes in songs on the radio yet
>however, but no doubt that will come.
>
>My aim is to get up to 98% averages on the entire chromatic scale at 440Hz
>by the end of the month, and then I'll start to worry about translating that
>on to tunes on the radio. I figure when you hear someone sing a note, it's
>not hard to imagine a piano playing the note, so if that's what I have to
>do to start with, so be it.
>
>The good thing is I'm growing increasingly confident that it's working, and
>I'm pretty stoked about that. :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #68928 is a reply to message #68925] |
Sun, 04 June 2006 06:13 |
tonehouse
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Perfect pitch is "tossing an accordian in the toilet without hitting the
rim"
> >
> >
> >Well I'm still working on it, and I seem to be progresing fairly well I
think.
> >
> >I bought this little program for $12:
> >http://www.brenthugh.com/eartest/
> >
> >It simply throws notes at you. I've now got it hooked up through my fave
> >digital piano with MIDI. It plays a note on my piano, and I have to try
and
> >hit that note. It doesn't care if I get the octave right, but I try and
do
> >that anyhow.
> >
> >You can decide how many/which notes you want it to test you on, and
weight
> >them so that some play more than others according to what you're bad at.
> >I'm currently using the entire C major scale, and I'm getting about 98%
correct
> >when I'm not hung over. ;o) Earlier today I got over 100 questions
correct
> >in a row. Generally I get about 50 right and get overconfident or lose
concentration
> >and stuff one up, but if I'm concentrating I can get them pretty much all
> >right.
> >
> >I've read a few tips about the place net. It seems the skills generally
come
> >first to you on your natural instrument, and then slowly migrate over to
> >others. Having said that I just had my first experience of what I'd call
> >"real" perfect pitch earlier today, when, in between tests, while
plugging
> >in some MIDI stuff, my phone beeped an SMS and I went "Hey, that's F!!".
> >;o) I don't find I recognise the keys and notes in songs on the radio yet
> >however, but no doubt that will come.
> >
> >My aim is to get up to 98% averages on the entire chromatic scale at
440Hz
> >by the end of the month, and then I'll start to worry about translating
that
> >on to tunes on the radio. I figure when you hear someone sing a note,
it's
> >not hard to imagine a piano playing the note, so if that's what I have to
> >do to start with, so be it.
> >
> >The good thing is I'm growing increasingly confident that it's working,
and
> >I'm pretty stoked about that. :o)
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Kim.
>
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #68953 is a reply to message #68928] |
Sun, 04 June 2006 16:50 |
steve the artguy
Messages: 308
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As an accordion player, I am *so* tired of hearing these *lame* jokes told
as *lame* attempts at humor. I mean, really.
That's not even the correct definition, since only those tiny toy accordions
would fit in a toilet.
Perfect pitch:
1) throwing an accordion into a dumpster and hitting the banjo lying in the
bottom, without hitting the sides of the dumpster
or
2) throwing a banjo into a dumpster, and, without hitting one of the sides,
hitting directlly the accordion already on the bottom.
Bag pipes cannot be rationally discussed in the same sentence as either banjos
or accordions.
Now, can we just get along? ;^)
-steve
"tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote:
>Perfect pitch is "tossing an accordian in the toilet without hitting the
>rim"
>> >
>> >
>> >Well I'm still working on it, and I seem to be progresing fairly well
I
>think.
>> >
>> >I bought this little program for $12:
>> >http://www.brenthugh.com/eartest/
>> >
>> >It simply throws notes at you. I've now got it hooked up through my fave
>> >digital piano with MIDI. It plays a note on my piano, and I have to try
>and
>> >hit that note. It doesn't care if I get the octave right, but I try and
>do
>> >that anyhow.
>> >
>> >You can decide how many/which notes you want it to test you on, and
>weight
>> >them so that some play more than others according to what you're bad
at.
>> >I'm currently using the entire C major scale, and I'm getting about 98%
>correct
>> >when I'm not hung over. ;o) Earlier today I got over 100 questions
>correct
>> >in a row. Generally I get about 50 right and get overconfident or lose
>concentration
>> >and stuff one up, but if I'm concentrating I can get them pretty much
all
>> >right.
>> >
>> >I've read a few tips about the place net. It seems the skills generally
>come
>> >first to you on your natural instrument, and then slowly migrate over
to
>> >others. Having said that I just had my first experience of what I'd call
>> >"real" perfect pitch earlier today, when, in between tests, while
>plugging
>> >in some MIDI stuff, my phone beeped an SMS and I went "Hey, that's F!!".
>> >;o) I don't find I recognise the keys and notes in songs on the radio
yet
>> >however, but no doubt that will come.
>> >
>> >My aim is to get up to 98% averages on the entire chromatic scale at
>440Hz
>> >by the end of the month, and then I'll start to worry about translating
>that
>> >on to tunes on the radio. I figure when you hear someone sing a note,
>it's
>> >not hard to imagine a piano playing the note, so if that's what I have
to
>> >do to start with, so be it.
>> >
>> >The good thing is I'm growing increasingly confident that it's working,
>and
>> >I'm pretty stoked about that. :o)
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Kim.
>>
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>
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #68954 is a reply to message #68924] |
Sun, 04 June 2006 16:58 |
Sarah
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Kim,
Are you sure you really want perfect pitch? Not me, jeez, I have to
throw away half of my favorite records. :)
Sarah
www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:44828928$1@linux...
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> Well I'm still working on it, and I seem to be progresing fairly well I
> think.
>
> I bought this little program for $12:
> http://www.brenthugh.com/eartest/
>
> It simply throws notes at you. I've now got it hooked up through my fave
> digital piano with MIDI. It plays a note on my piano, and I have to try
> and
> hit that note. It doesn't care if I get the octave right, but I try and do
> that anyhow.
>
> You can decide how many/which notes you want it to test you on, and weight
> them so that some play more than others according to what you're bad at.
> I'm currently using the entire C major scale, and I'm getting about 98%
> correct
> when I'm not hung over. ;o) Earlier today I got over 100 questions correct
> in a row. Generally I get about 50 right and get overconfident or lose
> concentration
> and stuff one up, but if I'm concentrating I can get them pretty much all
> right.
>
> I've read a few tips about the place net. It seems the skills generally
> come
> first to you on your natural instrument, and then slowly migrate over to
> others. Having said that I just had my first experience of what I'd call
> "real" perfect pitch earlier today, when, in between tests, while plugging
> in some MIDI stuff, my phone beeped an SMS and I went "Hey, that's F!!".
> ;o) I don't find I recognise the keys and notes in songs on the radio yet
> however, but no doubt that will come.
>
> My aim is to get up to 98% averages on the entire chromatic scale at 440Hz
> by the end of the month, and then I'll start to worry about translating
> that
> on to tunes on the radio. I figure when you hear someone sing a note, it's
> not hard to imagine a piano playing the note, so if that's what I have to
> do to start with, so be it.
>
> The good thing is I'm growing increasingly confident that it's working,
> and
> I'm pretty stoked about that. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #68956 is a reply to message #68924] |
Sun, 04 June 2006 19:59 |
Chris Latham
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Call me nutty, but once you correctly identify any note, then the fact that
you answer successive notes correctly in the same "testing session" only
proves that you have great RELATIVE pitch. But if you can fire up the
program, get the first note right, then come back day after day and
consistently get the FIRST note right, then you have perfect pitch. I might
be wrong but, it seems that great RELATIVE pitch might be the bigger
blessing, anywho.
This thread reminded me of a college roommate of mine who does have perfect
pitch. My freshman year, a guy that lived down the hall from us would burst
into our room early in the morning, strum a chord on his guitar, and ask,
"Mario, what chord was that?"
Mario who had been awakened by the guitarist entrance would, without
hesitation or even opening his eyes, answer (for example) "E flat 9 #11" and
tell you the note order (voicing) of the chord. He never missed. One night
a guy that was visiting our room squeaked out a fart. We all looked at
Mario. He said it was between and E and an F. We checked it on against a
guitar that was nearby. He was right.
Keep up the ear-training exercises, Kim.
CL
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #68961 is a reply to message #68956] |
Mon, 05 June 2006 05:39 |
Kim
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"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Call me nutty, but once you correctly identify any note, then the fact that
>you answer successive notes correctly in the same "testing session" only
>proves that you have great RELATIVE pitch. But if you can fire up the
>program, get the first note right, then come back day after day and
>consistently get the FIRST note right, then you have perfect pitch. I might
>be wrong but, it seems that great RELATIVE pitch might be the bigger
>blessing, anywho.
I'd say you are right, to a point. However, while my relative pitch is generally
very good, the program will throw notes at random over the whole keyboard
range if I ask it to. My relative pitch finds it a fair struggle to pick,
say, a 29 semitone interval (though occassionally I'll hear it as a forth,
plus two octaves). Point is once in every maybe 4 notes it throws at me,
I get an interval so far apart that it throws me, and at that point I have
to make a guess. If all notes were in the same octave then yes you'd be right,
though I suspect that with all twelve semitones I, at least would still get
confused at times.
>This thread reminded me...
I had a bizaare moment last night where, ten minutes after soing some perfect
pitch training, my phone beeped telling me I had an SMS. I went "That's an
F!!". Checked, and was right.
>Keep up the ear-training exercises, Kim.
I refuse not to win this one. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #68962 is a reply to message #68954] |
Mon, 05 June 2006 05:44 |
Kim
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"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>Are you sure you really want perfect pitch? Not me, jeez, I have to
>throw away half of my favorite records. :)
I know what you're saying. Aaron pointed out the other week that it frustrates
him when stuff is flat or sharp. I met a girl a few months ago who had perfect
pitch and was saying it was a mixed blessing for a number of reasons.
However, while I could be wrong, I can't help but think that, well, I guess
I'd be amazed if it was able to warp the way I hear things that I've heard
a hundred times before. Obviously the notes would become clear, so that would
change, but, for example, a nice bend in a blues solo... surely that would
still sound nice.
Sure, there's the odd tune that's been recorded half a semitone flat or sharp,
and they may be frustrating at times, but honestly, how bad can it really
be?
I know one thing's for sure... my piano in the lounge which is flat a semitone
will have to be retuned... ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #68965 is a reply to message #68956] |
Mon, 05 June 2006 08:36 |
TCB
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I dated a girl who had absolute pitch, and she could do the same thing. It
was useful for me back then because I was trying to become Grant Green and
if I couldn't get a chord (single lines are a lot easier) I'd ask her and
she'd do the same thing. She was also a very good violinist (turned down
an Eastman school scholarship to go to Yale) and if anything thought her
pitch made playing and listening to music LESS fun for her. As in she had
a hard time digging Chet Baker because he was so flat all the time.
Ah, lovely youth. I once spent a morning in bed with her drinking mimosas
and listening to Glen Gould's Goldberg Variations . . .
TCB
"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Call me nutty, but once you correctly identify any note, then the fact that
>you answer successive notes correctly in the same "testing session" only
>proves that you have great RELATIVE pitch. But if you can fire up the
>program, get the first note right, then come back day after day and
>consistently get the FIRST note right, then you have perfect pitch. I might
>be wrong but, it seems that great RELATIVE pitch might be the bigger
>blessing, anywho.
>
>This thread reminded me of a college roommate of mine who does have perfect
>pitch. My freshman year, a guy that lived down the hall from us would burst
>into our room early in the morning, strum a chord on his guitar, and ask,
>"Mario, what chord was that?"
>Mario who had been awakened by the guitarist entrance would, without
>hesitation or even opening his eyes, answer (for example) "E flat 9 #11"
and
>tell you the note order (voicing) of the chord. He never missed. One night
>a guy that was visiting our room squeaked out a fart. We all looked at
>Mario. He said it was between and E and an F. We checked it on against
a
>guitar that was nearby. He was right.
>
>Keep up the ear-training exercises, Kim.
>
>CL
>
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #68981 is a reply to message #68965] |
Mon, 05 June 2006 16:08 |
Kim
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"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>and if anything thought her
>pitch made playing and listening to music LESS fun for her.
I guess there's a few things that come to mind here. Perfect pitch has obviously
got it's down side, but...
I find it frustrating to listen to, for example, a great solo, and to not
have the secrets revealed. When I hear somebody do some weird off key run,
and it works, I want to know what it was, and why it worked, and how it worked.
I don't want to be stuck there going "Err, wow, but what was it?". Now it's
possible that, with perfect pitch, these moments may lose some mystique for
me when listening, but then at least I'd lose the frustration of not knowing
what was played.
One thing that strikes me is that most people with perfect pitch are so used
to it that they wouldn't really know what it's like without it. In most cases
it arrives not that long after taking up music, so people don't really know
what it's like to experience the frustration of understand music, but not
simply hearing the whole production revealed to them.
Perhaps this frustrates me more than it does others.
It kind of comes back to an old question I posed myself back when I was a
wee tacker (young bloke)... will understanding music remove it's magic?
I asked myself long ago whether understanding music would ruin music for
me, and of course, like people who have perfect pitch, I have no realy idea
what it is like to listen to music and not immediately be going "Ah, right,
we're in a major key, ah, we've moved to the fifth chord, how very typical...
the sixth... minor chord oh don't tell me we're going to, yep, the drop
to the forth... how very Let It Be...". I just take that for granted, and
it doesn't bother me to do it. I was worried that it might detract from my
appreciation of music to understand it too much, and no doubt in some ways
it does. However I suspect the consequence of this is that I like more advanced
music. That simple music bores me because it's more predictable to me. I
don't have a problem with that.
I expect that with perfect pitch, my taste will possibly be altered further.
There are artists who sing flat, and records where everything is flat. Some
of this might start to annoy me, but I expect it will be offset by greater
appreciation and understanding of other types of music.
Generally, most of my favourite music types are fairly much "in tune" anyhow.
In any case, I feel the risks are outweighed. With every ounce of greater
musical understanding, one loses mystique in favour of appreciation, and
perhaps some music may become hard to listen to. Still, in a way it's going
to open my eyes to new things, and certainly, playing wise, to be able to
just hit any note you hear in your head... well, there is a power in that
which is just too big a draw card for me.
Cheers,
Kim.
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch...MusicTheory.net [message #68988 is a reply to message #68924] |
Mon, 05 June 2006 17:26 |
tonehouse
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Thanks for the "admonishment", Steve the Artguy....I left my car unlocked
the other day,with my accordian in it...when I came back an hour later,there
were two accordians in the car.... PS try Ricci Adam's
"MusicTheory.Net"..it's a free ear training and theory site......
">> I bought this little program for $12:
> http://www.brenthugh.com/eartest/
>
> It simply throws notes at you. I've now got it hooked up through my fave
> digital piano with MIDI. It plays a note on my piano, and I have to try
and
> hit that note. It doesn't care if I get the octave right, but I try and do
> that anyhow.
>
> You can decide how many/which notes you want it to test you on, and weight
> them so that some play more than others according to what you're bad at.
> I'm currently using the entire C major scale, and I'm getting about 98%
correct
> when I'm not hung over. ;o) Earlier today I got over 100 questions correct
> in a row. Generally I get about 50 right and get overconfident or lose
concentration
> and stuff one up, but if I'm concentrating I can get them pretty much all
> right.
>
> I've read a few tips about the place net. It seems the skills generally
come
> first to you on your natural instrument, and then slowly migrate over to
> others. Having said that I just had my first experience of what I'd call
> "real" perfect pitch earlier today, when, in between tests, while plugging
> in some MIDI stuff, my phone beeped an SMS and I went "Hey, that's F!!".
> ;o) I don't find I recognise the keys and notes in songs on the radio yet
> however, but no doubt that will come.
>
> My aim is to get up to 98% averages on the entire chromatic scale at 440Hz
> by the end of the month, and then I'll start to worry about translating
that
> on to tunes on the radio. I figure when you hear someone sing a note, it's
> not hard to imagine a piano playing the note, so if that's what I have to
> do to start with, so be it.
>
> The good thing is I'm growing increasingly confident that it's working,
and
> I'm pretty stoked about that. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch...MusicTheory.net [message #69003 is a reply to message #68988] |
Tue, 06 June 2006 09:51 |
emarenot
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Sheesh, I just checked out the site you suggested. What a nifty place. I
may have to make a visit a regular part of my morning routine.... in place
of studying the banjo. (I gave up on the accordian, and thought I'd give
the banjo a try. BTW, public radio informs me that this week is National
Accordian Awareness Week, or something like that.)
Peace,
MR
"tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote in message news:4484c913$1@linux...
> Thanks for the "admonishment", Steve the Artguy....I left my car unlocked
> the other day,with my accordian in it...when I came back an hour
later,there
> were two accordians in the car.... PS try Ricci Adam's
> "MusicTheory.Net"..it's a free ear training and theory site......
> ">> I bought this little program for $12:
> > http://www.brenthugh.com/eartest/
> >
> > It simply throws notes at you. I've now got it hooked up through my fave
> > digital piano with MIDI. It plays a note on my piano, and I have to try
> and
> > hit that note. It doesn't care if I get the octave right, but I try and
do
> > that anyhow.
> >
> > You can decide how many/which notes you want it to test you on, and
weight
> > them so that some play more than others according to what you're bad at.
> > I'm currently using the entire C major scale, and I'm getting about 98%
> correct
> > when I'm not hung over. ;o) Earlier today I got over 100 questions
correct
> > in a row. Generally I get about 50 right and get overconfident or lose
> concentration
> > and stuff one up, but if I'm concentrating I can get them pretty much
all
> > right.
> >
> > I've read a few tips about the place net. It seems the skills generally
> come
> > first to you on your natural instrument, and then slowly migrate over to
> > others. Having said that I just had my first experience of what I'd call
> > "real" perfect pitch earlier today, when, in between tests, while
plugging
> > in some MIDI stuff, my phone beeped an SMS and I went "Hey, that's F!!".
> > ;o) I don't find I recognise the keys and notes in songs on the radio
yet
> > however, but no doubt that will come.
> >
> > My aim is to get up to 98% averages on the entire chromatic scale at
440Hz
> > by the end of the month, and then I'll start to worry about translating
> that
> > on to tunes on the radio. I figure when you hear someone sing a note,
it's
> > not hard to imagine a piano playing the note, so if that's what I have
to
> > do to start with, so be it.
> >
> > The good thing is I'm growing increasingly confident that it's working,
> and
> > I'm pretty stoked about that. :o)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kim.
>
>
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #69177 is a reply to message #68953] |
Sun, 11 June 2006 09:25 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
Messages: 258
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What happens if hit the guys playing those instruments in the dumpster?
El Miguel - the beguiled
"steve the artguy" <artguy@longtimenosee.net> wrote in message
news:448371e3$1@linux...
>
> As an accordion player, I am *so* tired of hearing these *lame* jokes told
> as *lame* attempts at humor. I mean, really.
>
> That's not even the correct definition, since only those tiny toy
accordions
> would fit in a toilet.
>
> Perfect pitch:
>
> 1) throwing an accordion into a dumpster and hitting the banjo lying in
the
> bottom, without hitting the sides of the dumpster
>
> or
>
> 2) throwing a banjo into a dumpster, and, without hitting one of the
sides,
> hitting directlly the accordion already on the bottom.
>
> Bag pipes cannot be rationally discussed in the same sentence as either
banjos
> or accordions.
>
> Now, can we just get along? ;^)
>
> -steve
>
>
>
> "tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote:
> >Perfect pitch is "tossing an accordian in the toilet without hitting the
> >rim"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Well I'm still working on it, and I seem to be progresing fairly well
> I
> >think.
> >> >
> >> >I bought this little program for $12:
> >> >http://www.brenthugh.com/eartest/
> >> >
> >> >It simply throws notes at you. I've now got it hooked up through my
fave
> >> >digital piano with MIDI. It plays a note on my piano, and I have to
try
> >and
> >> >hit that note. It doesn't care if I get the octave right, but I try
and
> >do
> >> >that anyhow.
> >> >
> >> >You can decide how many/which notes you want it to test you on, and
> >weight
> >> >them so that some play more than others according to what you're bad
> at.
> >> >I'm currently using the entire C major scale, and I'm getting about
98%
> >correct
> >> >when I'm not hung over. ;o) Earlier today I got over 100 questions
> >correct
> >> >in a row. Generally I get about 50 right and get overconfident or lose
> >concentration
> >> >and stuff one up, but if I'm concentrating I can get them pretty much
> all
> >> >right.
> >> >
> >> >I've read a few tips about the place net. It seems the skills
generally
> >come
> >> >first to you on your natural instrument, and then slowly migrate over
> to
> >> >others. Having said that I just had my first experience of what I'd
call
> >> >"real" perfect pitch earlier today, when, in between tests, while
> >plugging
> >> >in some MIDI stuff, my phone beeped an SMS and I went "Hey, that's
F!!".
> >> >;o) I don't find I recognise the keys and notes in songs on the radio
> yet
> >> >however, but no doubt that will come.
> >> >
> >> >My aim is to get up to 98% averages on the entire chromatic scale at
> >440Hz
> >> >by the end of the month, and then I'll start to worry about
translating
> >that
> >> >on to tunes on the radio. I figure when you hear someone sing a note,
> >it's
> >> >not hard to imagine a piano playing the note, so if that's what I have
> to
> >> >do to start with, so be it.
> >> >
> >> >The good thing is I'm growing increasingly confident that it's
working,
> >and
> >> >I'm pretty stoked about that. :o)
> >> >
> >> >Cheers,
> >> >Kim.
> >>
> >
> >
>
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #69179 is a reply to message #68956] |
Sun, 11 June 2006 09:28 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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Thanx for the belly laugh Chris,
Mine are always in bean flat or potato sharp...
El Miguel
"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:44839de9@linux...
> Call me nutty, but once you correctly identify any note, then the fact
that
> you answer successive notes correctly in the same "testing session" only
> proves that you have great RELATIVE pitch. But if you can fire up the
> program, get the first note right, then come back day after day and
> consistently get the FIRST note right, then you have perfect pitch. I
might
> be wrong but, it seems that great RELATIVE pitch might be the bigger
> blessing, anywho.
>
> This thread reminded me of a college roommate of mine who does have
perfect
> pitch. My freshman year, a guy that lived down the hall from us would
burst
> into our room early in the morning, strum a chord on his guitar, and ask,
> "Mario, what chord was that?"
> Mario who had been awakened by the guitarist entrance would, without
> hesitation or even opening his eyes, answer (for example) "E flat 9 #11"
and
> tell you the note order (voicing) of the chord. He never missed. One
night
> a guy that was visiting our room squeaked out a fart. We all looked at
> Mario. He said it was between and E and an F. We checked it on against a
> guitar that was nearby. He was right.
>
> Keep up the ear-training exercises, Kim.
>
> CL
>
>
>
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| Re: The Search for Perfect Pitch... [message #69186 is a reply to message #69177] |
Sun, 11 June 2006 11:31 |
steve the artguy
Messages: 308
Registered: June 2005
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Senior Member |
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you don't want to get in a fight a guy weilding a metal rimmed banjo. Aim
for the accordion player-- he's already exhausted from just playing the thing.
-steve
"Miguel Vigil" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>What happens if hit the guys playing those instruments in the dumpster?
>
>
>El Miguel - the beguiled
>
>
>
>
>
>"steve the artguy" <artguy@longtimenosee.net> wrote in message
>news:448371e3$1@linux...
>>
>> As an accordion player, I am *so* tired of hearing these *lame* jokes
told
>> as *lame* attempts at humor. I mean, really.
>>
>> That's not even the correct definition, since only those tiny toy
>accordions
>> would fit in a toilet.
>>
>> Perfect pitch:
>>
>> 1) throwing an accordion into a dumpster and hitting the banjo lying in
>the
>> bottom, without hitting the sides of the dumpster
>>
>> or
>>
>> 2) throwing a banjo into a dumpster, and, without hitting one of the
>sides,
>> hitting directlly the accordion already on the bottom.
>>
>> Bag pipes cannot be rationally discussed in the same sentence as either
>banjos
>> or accordions.
>>
>> Now, can we just get along? ;^)
>>
>> -steve
>>
>>
>>
>> "tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >Perfect pitch is "tossing an accordian in the toilet without hitting
the
>> >rim"
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Well I'm still working on it, and I seem to be progresing fairly well
>> I
>> >think.
>> >> >
>> >> >I bought this little program for $12:
>> >> >http://www.brenthugh.com/eartest/
>> >> >
>> >> >It simply throws notes at you. I've now got it hooked up through my
>fave
>> >> >digital piano with MIDI. It plays a note on my piano, and I have to
>try
>> >and
>> >> >hit that note. It doesn't care if I get the octave right, but I try
>and
>> >do
>> >> >that anyhow.
>> >> >
>> >> >You can decide how many/which notes you want it to test you on, and
>> >weight
>> >> >them so that some play more than others according to what you're bad
>> at.
>> >> >I'm currently using the entire C major scale, and I'm getting about
>98%
>> >correct
>> >> >when I'm not hung over. ;o) Earlier today I got over 100 questions
>> >correct
>> >> >in a row. Generally I get about 50 right and get overconfident or
lose
>> >concentration
>> >> >and stuff one up, but if I'm concentrating I can get them pretty much
>> all
>> >> >right.
>> >> >
>> >> >I've read a few tips about the place net. It seems the skills
>generally
>> >come
>> >> >first to you on your natural instrument, and then slowly migrate over
>> to
>> >> >others. Having said that I just had my first experience of what I'd
>call
>> >> >"real" perfect pitch earlier today, when, in between tests, while
>> >plugging
>> >> >in some MIDI stuff, my phone beeped an SMS and I went "Hey, that's
>F!!".
>> >> >;o) I don't find I recognise the keys and notes in songs on the radio
>> yet
>> >> >however, but no doubt that will come.
>> >> >
>> >> >My aim is to get up to 98% averages on the entire chromatic scale
at
>> >440Hz
>> >> >by the end of the month, and then I'll start to worry about
>translating
>> >that
>> >> >on to tunes on the radio. I figure when you hear someone sing a note,
>> >it's
>> >> >not hard to imagine a piano playing the note, so if that's what I
have
>> to
>> >> >do to start with, so be it.
>> >> >
>> >> >The good thing is I'm growing increasingly confident that it's
>working,
>> >and
>> >> >I'm pretty stoked about that. :o)
>> >> >
>> >> >Cheers,
>> >> >Kim.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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