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Paris/Cubase sync. DJ? [message #67044] Tue, 18 April 2006 16:26 Go to next message
Miguel Vigil [1] is currently offline  Miguel Vigil [1]   NORWAY
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I'm trying to find some instructions I think you put out a while a go,
regarding Paris sync to Cubase SX via ADAT and RME card. I think it was a
Word-document. Do you still have it? My system is a little sluggish, I may
have overlooked something in the set-up.

Bjorn R
Re: Paris/Cubase sync. DJ? [message #67045 is a reply to message #67044] Tue, 18 April 2006 16:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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If you are running a Hammerfall HDSP card, just set Cubase to sync to ASIO
positioning protocall, attach a 9 pin serial cable from the Paris ADAT sync
port out to the HDSP ADAT sync port in. In the HDSP control panel, set the
HDSP to sync to ADAT sync.

Cubasse SX should now sync to the C-16.

Deej

"BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:444574a7$1@linux...
> I'm trying to find some instructions I think you put out a while a go,
> regarding Paris sync to Cubase SX via ADAT and RME card. I think it was a
> Word-document. Do you still have it? My system is a little sluggish, I may
> have overlooked something in the set-up.
>
> Bjorn R
>
>
Re: Paris/Cubase sync. DJ? [message #67051 is a reply to message #67045] Tue, 18 April 2006 16:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sonicartproductions is currently offline  sonicartproductions   UNITED STATES
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Hey DJ,
I haven't been able to get this to work perfectly either. Everything is
setup right, and Cubase even locks, but always shifts in the beginning ...
within the first 4 measures it speeds up and slows down like a pendulum
until it gets a good lock. After that it is very stable.
Any ideas?
J



"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:444575c0$1@linux...
> If you are running a Hammerfall HDSP card, just set Cubase to sync to ASIO
> positioning protocall, attach a 9 pin serial cable from the Paris ADAT
> sync
> port out to the HDSP ADAT sync port in. In the HDSP control panel, set the
> HDSP to sync to ADAT sync.
>
> Cubasse SX should now sync to the C-16.
>
> Deej
>
> "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:444574a7$1@linux...
>> I'm trying to find some instructions I think you put out a while a go,
>> regarding Paris sync to Cubase SX via ADAT and RME card. I think it was a
>> Word-document. Do you still have it? My system is a little sluggish, I
>> may
>> have overlooked something in the set-up.
>>
>> Bjorn R
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Paris/Cubase sync. DJ? [message #67054 is a reply to message #67051] Tue, 18 April 2006 18:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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That's pretty normal. There is a little pre-roll slop. This can be somewhat
mitigated by settings in Cubase, I think. I've never worried about it. I
always give my projects a little slack to accommodate this.If I'm punching
and Paris is controlling the timeline, I make sure to provide enough hang
time to the talent so that the two apps can lock tight before the *artist*
screws up the take again during the punch.

;o)

"Ted" <sonicartproductions@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44457c26@linux...
> Hey DJ,
> I haven't been able to get this to work perfectly either. Everything is
> setup right, and Cubase even locks, but always shifts in the beginning ...
> within the first 4 measures it speeds up and slows down like a pendulum
> until it gets a good lock. After that it is very stable.
> Any ideas?
> J
>
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:444575c0$1@linux...
> > If you are running a Hammerfall HDSP card, just set Cubase to sync to
ASIO
> > positioning protocall, attach a 9 pin serial cable from the Paris ADAT
> > sync
> > port out to the HDSP ADAT sync port in. In the HDSP control panel, set
the
> > HDSP to sync to ADAT sync.
> >
> > Cubasse SX should now sync to the C-16.
> >
> > Deej
> >
> > "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:444574a7$1@linux...
> >> I'm trying to find some instructions I think you put out a while a go,
> >> regarding Paris sync to Cubase SX via ADAT and RME card. I think it was
a
> >> Word-document. Do you still have it? My system is a little sluggish, I
> >> may
> >> have overlooked something in the set-up.
> >>
> >> Bjorn R
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Paris/Cubase sync. DJ? [message #67094 is a reply to message #67054] Wed, 19 April 2006 17:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Miguel Vigil [1] is currently offline  Miguel Vigil [1]   NORWAY
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Registered: July 2005
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Sync is OK with VSTi's, it locks up pretty quick, but it takes 15-20 bars to
get my Yamaha CS1X to lock up. Never had this problem with Dakota and WinME.

Bjorn R


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44459422@linux...
> That's pretty normal. There is a little pre-roll slop. This can be
somewhat
> mitigated by settings in Cubase, I think. I've never worried about it. I
> always give my projects a little slack to accommodate this.If I'm punching
> and Paris is controlling the timeline, I make sure to provide enough hang
> time to the talent so that the two apps can lock tight before the *artist*
> screws up the take again during the punch.
>
> ;o)
>
> "Ted" <sonicartproductions@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:44457c26@linux...
> > Hey DJ,
> > I haven't been able to get this to work perfectly either. Everything is
> > setup right, and Cubase even locks, but always shifts in the beginning
....
> > within the first 4 measures it speeds up and slows down like a pendulum
> > until it gets a good lock. After that it is very stable.
> > Any ideas?
> > J
> >
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:444575c0$1@linux...
> > > If you are running a Hammerfall HDSP card, just set Cubase to sync to
> ASIO
> > > positioning protocall, attach a 9 pin serial cable from the Paris ADAT
> > > sync
> > > port out to the HDSP ADAT sync port in. In the HDSP control panel, set
> the
> > > HDSP to sync to ADAT sync.
> > >
> > > Cubasse SX should now sync to the C-16.
> > >
> > > Deej
> > >
> > > "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:444574a7$1@linux...
> > >> I'm trying to find some instructions I think you put out a while a
go,
> > >> regarding Paris sync to Cubase SX via ADAT and RME card. I think it
was
> a
> > >> Word-document. Do you still have it? My system is a little sluggish,
I
> > >> may
> > >> have overlooked something in the set-up.
> > >>
> > >> Bjorn R
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Paris/Cubase sync. DJ? [message #67095 is a reply to message #67094] Wed, 19 April 2006 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Miguel Vigil [1] is currently offline  Miguel Vigil [1]   NORWAY
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
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...to clearify the problem, the Yamaha-synth syncs perfectly to Cubase alone,
but takes forever to get in sync when Cubase is slaved to Paris. Anyone
experienced this?

Bjorn R


"BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4446d024$1@linux...
> Sync is OK with VSTi's, it locks up pretty quick, but it takes 15-20 bars
to
> get my Yamaha CS1X to lock up. Never had this problem with Dakota and
WinME.
>
> Bjorn R
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44459422@linux...
> > That's pretty normal. There is a little pre-roll slop. This can be
> somewhat
> > mitigated by settings in Cubase, I think. I've never worried about it. I
> > always give my projects a little slack to accommodate this.If I'm
punching
> > and Paris is controlling the timeline, I make sure to provide enough
hang
> > time to the talent so that the two apps can lock tight before the
*artist*
> > screws up the take again during the punch.
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> > "Ted" <sonicartproductions@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:44457c26@linux...
> > > Hey DJ,
> > > I haven't been able to get this to work perfectly either. Everything
is
> > > setup right, and Cubase even locks, but always shifts in the beginning
> ...
> > > within the first 4 measures it speeds up and slows down like a
pendulum
> > > until it gets a good lock. After that it is very stable.
> > > Any ideas?
> > > J
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > > news:444575c0$1@linux...
> > > > If you are running a Hammerfall HDSP card, just set Cubase to sync
to
> > ASIO
> > > > positioning protocall, attach a 9 pin serial cable from the Paris
ADAT
> > > > sync
> > > > port out to the HDSP ADAT sync port in. In the HDSP control panel,
set
> > the
> > > > HDSP to sync to ADAT sync.
> > > >
> > > > Cubasse SX should now sync to the C-16.
> > > >
> > > > Deej
> > > >
> > > > "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:444574a7$1@linux...
> > > >> I'm trying to find some instructions I think you put out a while a
> go,
> > > >> regarding Paris sync to Cubase SX via ADAT and RME card. I think it
> was
> > a
> > > >> Word-document. Do you still have it? My system is a little
sluggish,
> I
> > > >> may
> > > >> have overlooked something in the set-up.
> > > >>
> > > >> Bjorn R
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Paris/Cubase sync. DJ? [message #67096 is a reply to message #67095] Wed, 19 April 2006 18:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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So you're syncing Cubase to Paris via ADAT sync and syncing the Yamaha to
what?

"BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4446e335$1@linux...
> ..to clearify the problem, the Yamaha-synth syncs perfectly to Cubase
alone,
> but takes forever to get in sync when Cubase is slaved to Paris. Anyone
> experienced this?
>
> Bjorn R
>
>
> "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4446d024$1@linux...
> > Sync is OK with VSTi's, it locks up pretty quick, but it takes 15-20
bars
> to
> > get my Yamaha CS1X to lock up. Never had this problem with Dakota and
> WinME.
> >
> > Bjorn R
> >
> >
> > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > news:44459422@linux...
> > > That's pretty normal. There is a little pre-roll slop. This can be
> > somewhat
> > > mitigated by settings in Cubase, I think. I've never worried about it.
I
> > > always give my projects a little slack to accommodate this.If I'm
> punching
> > > and Paris is controlling the timeline, I make sure to provide enough
> hang
> > > time to the talent so that the two apps can lock tight before the
> *artist*
> > > screws up the take again during the punch.
> > >
> > > ;o)
> > >
> > > "Ted" <sonicartproductions@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:44457c26@linux...
> > > > Hey DJ,
> > > > I haven't been able to get this to work perfectly either. Everything
> is
> > > > setup right, and Cubase even locks, but always shifts in the
beginning
> > ...
> > > > within the first 4 measures it speeds up and slows down like a
> pendulum
> > > > until it gets a good lock. After that it is very stable.
> > > > Any ideas?
> > > > J
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:444575c0$1@linux...
> > > > > If you are running a Hammerfall HDSP card, just set Cubase to sync
> to
> > > ASIO
> > > > > positioning protocall, attach a 9 pin serial cable from the Paris
> ADAT
> > > > > sync
> > > > > port out to the HDSP ADAT sync port in. In the HDSP control panel,
> set
> > > the
> > > > > HDSP to sync to ADAT sync.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cubasse SX should now sync to the C-16.
> > > > >
> > > > > Deej
> > > > >
> > > > > "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:444574a7$1@linux...
> > > > >> I'm trying to find some instructions I think you put out a while
a
> > go,
> > > > >> regarding Paris sync to Cubase SX via ADAT and RME card. I think
it
> > was
> > > a
> > > > >> Word-document. Do you still have it? My system is a little
> sluggish,
> > I
> > > > >> may
> > > > >> have overlooked something in the set-up.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Bjorn R
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Paris/Cubase sync. DJ? [message #67119 is a reply to message #67096] Thu, 20 April 2006 05:16 Go to previous message
Miguel Vigil [1] is currently offline  Miguel Vigil [1]   NORWAY
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
Cubase sends midi to the Yamaha, that acts as a sound module. It works as
it's supposed to do, playing along with VSTi's in perfect timing. But when
Cubase is synced to Paris, theYamaha uses 15-20 bars to get the timing
right. Or rather, uses 15-20 bars to get the midi-signals out to the Yamaha
in sync with the rest of the song.
I hope this makes it clearer :-)

Bjorn R


"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:4446ec5d@linux...
> So you're syncing Cubase to Paris via ADAT sync and syncing the Yamaha to
> what?
>
> "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4446e335$1@linux...
> > ..to clearify the problem, the Yamaha-synth syncs perfectly to Cubase
> alone,
> > but takes forever to get in sync when Cubase is slaved to Paris. Anyone
> > experienced this?
> >
> > Bjorn R
> >
> >
> > "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:4446d024$1@linux...
> > > Sync is OK with VSTi's, it locks up pretty quick, but it takes 15-20
> bars
> > to
> > > get my Yamaha CS1X to lock up. Never had this problem with Dakota and
> > WinME.
> > >
> > > Bjorn R
> > >
> > >
> > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > > news:44459422@linux...
> > > > That's pretty normal. There is a little pre-roll slop. This can be
> > > somewhat
> > > > mitigated by settings in Cubase, I think. I've never worried about
it.
> I
> > > > always give my projects a little slack to accommodate this.If I'm
> > punching
> > > > and Paris is controlling the timeline, I make sure to provide enough
> > hang
> > > > time to the talent so that the two apps can lock tight before the
> > *artist*
> > > > screws up the take again during the punch.
> > > >
> > > > ;o)
> > > >
> > > > "Ted" <sonicartproductions@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:44457c26@linux...
> > > > > Hey DJ,
> > > > > I haven't been able to get this to work perfectly either.
Everything
> > is
> > > > > setup right, and Cubase even locks, but always shifts in the
> beginning
> > > ...
> > > > > within the first 4 measures it speeds up and slows down like a
> > pendulum
> > > > > until it gets a good lock. After that it is very stable.
> > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > J
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:444575c0$1@linux...
> > > > > > If you are running a Hammerfall HDSP card, just set Cubase to
sync
> > to
> > > > ASIO
> > > > > > positioning protocall, attach a 9 pin serial cable from the
Paris
> > ADAT
> > > > > > sync
> > > > > > port out to the HDSP ADAT sync port in. In the HDSP control
panel,
> > set
> > > > the
> > > > > > HDSP to sync to ADAT sync.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cubasse SX should now sync to the C-16.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Deej
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "BR" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:444574a7$1@linux...
> > > > > >> I'm trying to find some instructions I think you put out a
while
> a
> > > go,
> > > > > >> regarding Paris sync to Cubase SX via ADAT and RME card. I
think
> it
> > > was
> > > > a
> > > > > >> Word-document. Do you still have it? My system is a little
> > sluggish,
> > > I
> > > > > >> may
> > > > > >> have overlooked something in the set-up.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Bjorn R
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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