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| Re: AES [message #58944 is a reply to message #58910] |
Mon, 10 October 2005 13:36   |
Paul Artola
Messages: 161
Registered: November 2005
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a href="mailto:1@linux..." target="_blank">1@linux...
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> Dimitrios, thanks for the effort to put this together. I'm =
>adding this to
> my "paris keepers" file. =20
> MR
>
> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote:
> >Ok,
> >Due to the many posts that maybe misleading if you don't follow
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>all of them
> >in the right order I decided to summarize what I know regarding
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>senderella
> >and its use with Paris .
> >
> >1. Use inside Paris.cfg at the top the string =
>EDSTransfer=3D8,16 =20
> You
> >could use 8,8 but this has problems with audio streaming. The =
>8,16 seems
> >like the magical number, remember I tried them all....
> >This is needed because then Senderella works realtime NO =
>LATENCY as a buss
> >inside Paris.
> >Senderella seems like the greatest discovery amoung FREE =
>plugins for Paris,
> >link: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1433.html
> >Senderella newest version has a redirect option so you can send
=
>the signal
> >and not hear (or hear) the dry signal if you want.
> >It has 64 bussses ! nad now saves its condition and prest (the
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>version
> >before could not) after saving your song.
> >
> >2. Senderella works across submixes ! but the latency in =
>beetween submixes
> >has to be taken into consideration.
> >
> >3. So possible uses are
> >a} Use your favorite DX/VST/UAD1/POWERCORE /EXTERNAL DEVICE =
>reverb as abuss
> >with senderella.
> >You occupy two Paris audio tracks for your reverb return using
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>16bit (24bit
> >works too) silence paf file.
> >Here you can create a long 5 minute file or bigger and have it
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>in handy
> >anytime you want it.
> >b) Use your favourite compressor VST/DX/UAD!/POWERCORE/EXTERNAL
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>for buss
> >compression.
> >
> >4. On both uses the method is around the same.
> >
> >5. Senderella although showing up as it is in Paris as vst does
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>not let
> the
> >audio pass the plugin, It stops in senderella so only WET =
>signal can be
> >send.
> >this is useful only for bussing say dsrumtracks to a cmpressor
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>and not need
> >to have also the dry tracks playing.
> >In that situation no wrapper needs for senderella.
> >But for full use and potential senderella needs to be wrapped
> >
> >6. Wrappers that can be used are the FREE Spinaudio lite
> =
>> http://www.spinaudio.com/downloads.php?download_type=3D3& ;download_id=3D3=
>3 which
> >can wrap ONLY one VST plugin.
> >So here you can wrap one instance of senderella and use it as =
>send for
> >reverbs.
> >If you buy Spinaudio ofcourse you can have as many plugins =
>wrapped as you
> >want.
> >
> >7.. Senderella by renaming its dll like send1,send2,send3 etc =
>can be used
> as
> >many times as you want it is that simple.
> >
> >8. you need to have 16bit files (empty) on the receining =
>senderella
> >instances.
> >
> >9. If you have multiple cards then use (if you want it across =
>submixes)
> >tracks 15 and 16 of your last card, so that all sending =
>instances are bfore
> >these two.
> >
> >10. On Me works but I haven't got very stable resluts which may
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>be my
> >computer though so you could give some more tests but on XP =
>works just fine
> >here.
> >
> >11. So to come to its actual use
> >First you wrap as we said senderella, I prefer chainer because
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>chainer is
> >extremely stable and has some good functinality like dry and =
>wet volumes
> >many slots midi automation preset handling etc.
> >Note that here we need a VST chainer/wrapper because senderella
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>is only
> VST.
> >For UAD1 you can use the same wrapper chainer and wrap the vst
=
>versions
> of
> >VST.
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| Re: AES [message #58997 is a reply to message #58991] |
Tue, 11 October 2005 15:30 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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gure
=
>there
> >>must be some in there that are more likely to sound like a classic =
>keyboard
> >>amp than others, and I'm sure over the years the odd person probably
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>used
> >>a guitar amp with a keyboard anyhow. Problem is a lot of the amps in
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>this
> >>list mean nothing to me other than a bunch of characters, whereas =
>I'm sure
> >>quite a few of you will be familiar with many of them, and I'm also
=
>even
> >>less familiar with actual keyboard amps, so I'm really lost for a =
>place
> >to
> >>start other than to push buttons and see how things sound... =
>...which
> >may
> >>of course be a very good approach, but anyhow...
> >>
> >>Amps I have to choose from are:
> >>'65 Fender Twin Reverb, Matchless DC30, Mesa Dual Rectifier, Mesa =
>Boogie
> >>Mark II C, '57 Fender Tweed Deluxe, Vox AC30 Top Boost, "A clean =
>tube combo",
> >>'78 Marshall Master Volume, "A nice crunchy tube amp combo", "A high
=
>gain
> >>tube amp", "A sweet tube blues tone", Marshall JCM900, "A high gain
=
>fuzz
> >>distortion", "Fender Bassman", a HiWatt 50 watt stack, [bass rigs] -
=
>Ampeg
> >>SVT, Ashdown ABM-C410H, Trace Elliot Commando, Sunn200S, '69 Ampeg =
>SVT
> Classic,
> >>Ampeg B15, SWR Basic Black, Fender Dual Showman, Mesa Boogie Bass =
>400+,
> >Hartke
> >>Model 2000.
> >>
> >>Speaker Cabs: American 2x12, British 4x12, Vintage 30 4x12, British
=
>2x12,
> >>American 1x12, Blonde 2x12, Fane 4x12, Greenback 4x12, Boutique =
>4x12, Bassman
> >>4x10, '65 Tweed 1x12, Fender Pro 1x15, Ampeg Portaflex, Ashdown 4x10
=
>w/tweeter,
> >>Sunn 200S 2x15, Acoustic 360, Hartke 1x15, SWR Basic Black, Ampeg =
>8x10,
> >Ashdown
> >>AMB410, SWR Goliath III, Hartke 4x10.
> >>
> >>Any suggestions on what combo may sound good with a given sound =
>would be
> >>fantastic. Mostly I'm looking to get some nice hammond B3 and =
>wurlitzer
> >sounds
> >>happenning, so any suggestions specific to those directions would be
=
>fantasmalistic!
> >>:o) Keep in mind the rotary speaker effect can be inserted on any of
=
>the
> >>amp/cabinet combinations without effecting the sound in any way =
>(other
> than
> >>to add the rotary effect) so feel free to choose amps based on what
=
>would
> >>probably sound good IF it had a Leslie. :o)
> >>
> >>Oh, and the machine can also warp between two amps or cabinets, so =
>if you
> >>think "a criss cross of 1/3 this amp and 2/3's this amp" would work,
=
>then
> >>we can do that too. :o)
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Kim.
> >
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Kim,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I like both Neil and Michael's =
>suggestions. =20
>Fenders</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>have a cleaner sound which is often =
>good to=20
>help</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>retain the keyboards clarity. I =
>know with the=20
>Vox ToneLab</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and with Nigel I usually end up with =
>the matching=20
>cabs</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to the given amp. I try them =
>all and=20
>almost always go</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>with what was sold with the head. =
>They are=20
>matched.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I used to have a Vox AC-30 and a =
>Marshall 4 x 12...=20
>ehhh.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A Dual Showman through the same =
>Marshall...=20
>ewww.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Put those amps with their soul mate =
>cabs and=20
>wow!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The old 100 Marshall sounded sweet with
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>the cab=20
>though.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Use your ears. Boogie gets a =
>great clean=20
>sound almost </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>like a Fender but rounder. Might =
>be another=20
>option to try.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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> <DIV>"michael bliss" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:mbliss1@austin.rr.com">mbliss1@austin.rr.com</A>> =
>wrote
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| Re: AES [message #59013 is a reply to message #58991] |
Tue, 11 October 2005 21:20 |
Paul Artola
Messages: 161
Registered: November 2005
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o even
>>less familiar with actual keyboard amps, so I'm really lost for =
a place
>to
>>start other than to push buttons and see how things sound... =
....which
>may
>>of course be a very good approach, but anyhow...
>>
>>Amps I have to choose from are:
>>'65 Fender Twin Reverb, Matchless DC30, Mesa Dual Rectifier, =
Mesa Boogie
>>Mark II C, '57 Fender Tweed Deluxe, Vox AC30 Top Boost, "A clean =
tube combo",
>>'78 Marshall Master Volume, "A nice crunchy tube amp combo", "A =
high gain
>>tube amp", "A sweet tube blues tone", Marshall JCM900, "A high =
gain fuzz
>>distortion", "Fender Bassman", a HiWatt 50 watt stack, [bass =
rigs] - Ampeg
>>SVT, Ashdown ABM-C410H, Trace Elliot Commando, Sunn200S, '69 =
Ampeg SVT
Classic,
>>Ampeg B15, SWR Basic Black, Fender Dual Showman, Mesa Boogie =
Bass 400+,
>Hartke
>>Model 2000.
>>
>>Speaker Cabs: American 2x12, British 4x12, Vintage 30 4x12, =
British 2x12,
>>American 1x12, Blonde 2x12, Fane 4x12, Greenback 4x12, Boutique =
4x12, Bassman
>>4x10, '65 Tweed 1x12, Fender Pro 1x15, Ampeg Portaflex, Ashdown =
4x10 w/tweeter,
>>Sunn 200S 2x15, Acoustic 360, Hartke 1x15, SWR Basic Black, =
Ampeg 8x10,
>Ashdown
>>AMB410, SWR Goliath III, Hartke 4x10.
>>
>>Any suggestions on what combo may sound good with a given sound =
would be
>>fantastic. Mostly I'm looking to get some nice hammond B3 and =
wurlitzer
>sounds
>>happenning, so any suggestions specific to those directions =
would be fantasmalistic!
>>:o) Keep in mind the rotary speaker effect can be inserted on =
any of the
>>amp/cabinet combinations without effecting the sound in any way =
(other
than
>>to add the rotary effect) so feel free to choose a
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| Re: AES [message #59029 is a reply to message #58944] |
Wed, 12 October 2005 07:37 |
Miguel Vigil [1]
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
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> news:434a1e5c@linux...
>> D,
>> Long story short is that when Ensoniq was bought out by Emu and Creative,
>> lots of heads rolled. A good deal of hostility ensued. Papers vanished,
>> mysteriously, and *no one seems to know where they went*.. the why is
>> obvious when you think about it from a creators standpoint. If there are
>> indeed roadmaps on the EDS cards I would be most definitely interested
>> should you come across them.. but I hold little hope at this late stage
>> in
>> the public release of those documents.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message
>> news:434a13c0$1@linux...
>> >I have a couple of non working EDS cards (and no I did not burn them
>> >with
>> > EDSTransfer string)
>> > These have been bought as is for spare parts.
>> > Because I am located in Greece it is cost prohibited to send cards
> aboard
>> > for propable fix.
>> > So with my audio engineer I could fix some here.
>> > Would anybody kindly share these schematics ?
>> > I know someone outhee got them...
>> > The Ensoniq guy ( I understand why) did not reply on this.
>> > regards,
>> > Dimitrios
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>Martin,
For some reason, I have never been able to get a .paf to work in Paris that
was created in Wavelab. WL can open them just fine, just not recreate them
for some reason, at least on my rig.
Deej
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:434cd7c5@linux...
> You could load them into Wavelab and convert them into 2 mono PAF files.
> --
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:434bfb33$1@linux...
> >
> > Tom, you could install a program such as CDex (I think it's shareware,
but
> > I'm not sure)it converts mp3's to waves and vice versa. That's what I
> > usually
> > use.
> > Rod
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Alright, now I have to reinstall Wavelab...
> >>
> >> "Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
> >>news:434bd54b@linux...
> >> Dear Tom,
> >> If you load mp3's on wavelab you can then save them as wave files.
> >> It is that simple.
> >> Regards,
> >> Dimitrios
> >> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
> >>news:434bd28b@linux...
> >> The files are Winamp Media Files which are mp3s. =20
> >> I want to lay guitar tracks over Steely Dan covers for him. =20
> >> Can I make them individual wavs with either Paris, strip wav or
> >> Wavelab 3.0?
> >>
> >> He can send me the individual wavs and I can convert those but we're
> > =
> >>
> >> trying to save a step for him I guess...
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> PS Don't eat too much roasted garlic at one sitting.
> >>
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> >><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Alright, now I have to reinstall=20
> >>Wavelab...</FONT></DIV>
> >><DIV> </DIV>
> >><BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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> >> <DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
> >> href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
> >>message=20
> >> <A href=3D"news:434bd54b@linux">news:434bd54b@linux</A>...</DIV>
> >> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Tom,</FONT></DIV>
> >> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you load mp3's on wavelab you can
> > =
> >>then save=20
> >> them as wave files.</FONT></DIV>
> >> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is that simple.</FONT></DIV>
> >> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
> >> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios</FONT></DIV>
> >> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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