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Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76480]

Tue, 28 November 2006 18:50

DJ

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

I've been mousing my pans or a long time because my C-16's weren't in my
sweet spot. That has now changed. It's been years since I've used the C-16
for much of anything other than grabbing faders now anf then. I notice that
the pan controls of the C-16 are only allowing incremental moves of 5 points
(90..............<20<15<10<5<0>5>10>15>20>..........90)

Is there a key combo that will alllow me to rotate this control on the C-16
using single points?

Thanks,

Deej

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Re: Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76490 is a reply to message #76480]

Tue, 28 November 2006 23:17

Aaron Allen

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Registered: May 2008

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I'm blowing off cobwebs, but perhaps try control, or alt ?
AA

"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456cf2ed@linux...
> I've been mousing my pans or a long time because my C-16's weren't in my
> sweet spot. That has now changed. It's been years since I've used the C-16
> for much of anything other than grabbing faders now anf then. I notice
> that the pan controls of the C-16 are only allowing incremental moves of 5
> points (90..............<20<15<10<5<0>5>10>15>20>..........90)
>
> Is there a key combo that will alllow me to rotate this control on the
> C-16 using single points?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Deej
>
>

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Re: Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76501 is a reply to message #76490]

Wed, 29 November 2006 09:21

Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

I don't think there is a way to have finer control using the C-16.
Rod
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>I'm blowing off cobwebs, but perhaps try control, or alt ?
>AA
>
>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456cf2ed@linux...
>> I've been mousing my pans or a long time because my C-16's weren't in
my
>> sweet spot. That has now changed. It's been years since I've used the
C-16
>> for much of anything other than grabbing faders now anf then. I notice

>> that the pan controls of the C-16 are only allowing incremental moves
of 5
>> points (90..............<20<15<10<5<0>5>10>15>20>..........90)
>>
>> Is there a key combo that will alllow me to rotate this control on the

>> C-16 using single points?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76504 is a reply to message #76501]

Wed, 29 November 2006 09:10

DJ

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

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I just checked the manual. In "Pro" mode, the button that is used to record
enable tracks in *standard* mode is called *fine* and this will allow it. Of
course, I don't use "Pro" mode. Maybe I should. anyone got a "Pro"
overlay?.or should I get one of those cute little Smurf Blue C-16's?

Did Pro mode ever work correctly? Seems I recall some *features* that were
less than great, but since I never used it............

;o)

"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message
news:456db378$1@linux...
>
> I don't think there is a way to have finer control using the C-16.
> Rod
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>I'm blowing off cobwebs, but perhaps try control, or alt ?
>>AA
>>
>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456cf2ed@linux...
>>> I've been mousing my pans or a long time because my C-16's weren't in
> my
>>> sweet spot. That has now changed. It's been years since I've used the
> C-16
>>> for much of anything other than grabbing faders now anf then. I notice
>
>>> that the pan controls of the C-16 are only allowing incremental moves
> of 5
>>> points (90..............<20<15<10<5<0>5>10>15>20>..........90)
>>>
>>> Is there a key combo that will alllow me to rotate this control on the
>
>>> C-16 using single points?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76506 is a reply to message #76504]

Wed, 29 November 2006 10:31

Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

I never used it either, so I don't know.
Rod
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>I just checked the manual. In "Pro" mode, the button that is used to record

>enable tracks in *standard* mode is called *fine* and this will allow it.
Of
>course, I don't use "Pro" mode. Maybe I should. anyone got a "Pro"
>overlay?.or should I get one of those cute little Smurf Blue C-16's?
>
>Did Pro mode ever work correctly? Seems I recall some *features* that were

>less than great, but since I never used it............
>
>;o)
>
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message
>news:456db378$1@linux...
>>
>> I don't think there is a way to have finer control using the C-16.
>> Rod
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>I'm blowing off cobwebs, but perhaps try control, or alt ?
>>>AA
>>>
>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456cf2ed@linux...
>>>> I've been mousing my pans or a long time because my C-16's weren't in
>> my
>>>> sweet spot. That has now changed. It's been years since I've used the
>> C-16
>>>> for much of anything other than grabbing faders now anf then. I notice
>>
>>>> that the pan controls of the C-16 are only allowing incremental moves
>> of 5
>>>> points (90..............<20<15<10<5<0>5>10>15>20>..........90)
>>>>
>>>> Is there a key combo that will alllow me to rotate this control on the
>>
>>>> C-16 using single points?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Deej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76507 is a reply to message #76506]

Wed, 29 November 2006 10:10

DJ

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

Yes. I just setmy system to C-16 Pro mode and tried it. It works. Now, if
something doesn't catch on fire...........

Those were cool latency charts you did BTW. Lots of work and much
appreciated. I'm going to be getting my new 13 slot Magma in here later this
week and will be loading my Pulsar cards in it, then setting up a parallel
rig running Win XP on a dual core AMD CPU with a Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra 939
mobo, the 4 x EDS cards in the 7 x slot Magma, the 4 x UAD-1 cards (in the
13 slot Magma that they currently occupy) and possibly an RME HDSP card in
this rig so just in case Chuck's mystery project comes up with a way to
interface Cubase SX with Paris via ASIO, I'll be ready. The IRQ dance should
be an interesting one, but since Paris and UAD-1 cards will share, it might
be possible. In the meantime, I'll be using the parallel rig for VSTi's.

;o)

"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:456dc3dd$1@linux...
>
> I never used it either, so I don't know.
> Rod
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>I just checked the manual. In "Pro" mode, the button that is used to
>>record
>
>>enable tracks in *standard* mode is called *fine* and this will allow it.
> Of
>>course, I don't use "Pro" mode. Maybe I should. anyone got a "Pro"
>>overlay?.or should I get one of those cute little Smurf Blue C-16's?
>>
>>Did Pro mode ever work correctly? Seems I recall some *features* that were
>
>>less than great, but since I never used it............
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message
>>news:456db378$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I don't think there is a way to have finer control using the C-16.
>>> Rod
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>I'm blowing off cobwebs, but perhaps try control, or alt ?
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456cf2ed@linux...
>>>>> I've been mousing my pans or a long time because my C-16's weren't in
>>> my
>>>>> sweet spot. That has now changed. It's been years since I've used the
>>> C-16
>>>>> for much of anything other than grabbing faders now anf then. I notice
>>>
>>>>> that the pan controls of the C-16 are only allowing incremental moves
>>> of 5
>>>>> points (90..............<20<15<10<5<0>5>10>15>20>..........90)
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a key combo that will alllow me to rotate this control on the
>>>
>>>>> C-16 using single points?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Deej
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76508 is a reply to message #76504]

Wed, 29 November 2006 10:49

Aaron Allen

Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008

Senior Member

"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456dbc80@linux...
>I just checked the manual. In "Pro" mode, the button that is used to record
> enable tracks in *standard* mode is called *fine* and this will allow it.
> Of
> course, I don't use "Pro" mode. Maybe I should. anyone got a "Pro"
> overlay?.or should I get one of those cute little Smurf Blue C-16's?
>
> Did Pro mode ever work correctly? Seems I recall some *features* that were
> less than great, but since I never used it............
>
> ;o)
>
>
> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message
> news:456db378$1@linux...
>>
>> I don't think there is a way to have finer control using the C-16.
>> Rod
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>I'm blowing off cobwebs, but perhaps try control, or alt ?
>>>AA
>>>
>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456cf2ed@linux...
>>>> I've been mousing my pans or a long time because my C-16's weren't in
>> my
>>>> sweet spot. That has now changed. It's been years since I've used the
>> C-16
>>>> for much of anything other than grabbing faders now anf then. I notice
>>
>>>> that the pan controls of the C-16 are only allowing incremental moves
>> of 5
>>>> points (90..............<20<15<10<5<0>5>10>15>20>..........90)
>>>>
>>>> Is there a key combo that will alllow me to rotate this control on the
>>
>>>> C-16 using single points?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Deej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76509 is a reply to message #76507]

Wed, 29 November 2006 11:49

Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

Sooooo...have you actually gotten Paris to run on a Dual Core AMD?? I'd be
VERY interested if you have. If it's still a "hopeful" scenario, I'll be
watching you posts. Lead the way DR. Frankenstein.
;-)
Rod

"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>Yes. I just setmy system to C-16 Pro mode and tried it. It works. Now, if

>something doesn't catch on fire...........
>
>Those were cool latency charts you did BTW. Lots of work and much
>appreciated. I'm going to be getting my new 13 slot Magma in here later
this
>week and will be loading my Pulsar cards in it, then setting up a parallel

>rig running Win XP on a dual core AMD CPU with a Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra
939
>mobo, the 4 x EDS cards in the 7 x slot Magma, the 4 x UAD-1 cards (in the

>13 slot Magma that they currently occupy) and possibly an RME HDSP card
in
>this rig so just in case Chuck's mystery project comes up with a way to

>interface Cubase SX with Paris via ASIO, I'll be ready. The IRQ dance should

>be an interesting one, but since Paris and UAD-1 cards will share, it might

>be possible. In the meantime, I'll be using the parallel rig for VSTi's.
>
>;o)
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:456dc3dd$1@linux...
>>
>> I never used it either, so I don't know.
>> Rod
>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>>I just checked the manual. In "Pro" mode, the button that is used to
>>>record
>>
>>>enable tracks in *standard* mode is called *fine* and this will allow
it.
>> Of
>>>course, I don't use "Pro" mode. Maybe I should. anyone got a "Pro"
>>>overlay?.or should I get one of those cute little Smurf Blue C-16's?
>>>
>>>Did Pro mode ever work correctly? Seems I recall some *features* that
were
>>
>>>less than great, but since I never used it............
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message
>>>news:456db378$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I don't think there is a way to have finer control using the C-16.
>>>> Rod
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>I'm blowing off cobwebs, but perhaps try control, or alt ?
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456cf2ed@linux...
>>>>>> I've been mousing my pans or a long time because my C-16's weren't
in
>>>> my
>>>>>> sweet spot. That has now changed. It's been years since I've used
the
>>>> C-16
>>>>>> for much of anything other than grabbing faders now anf then. I notice
>>>>
>>>>>> that the pan controls of the C-16 are only allowing incremental moves
>>>> of 5
>>>>>> points (90..............<20<15<10<5<0>5>10>15>20>..........90)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a key combo that will alllow me to rotate this control on
the
>>>>
>>>>>> C-16 using single points?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76510 is a reply to message #76508]

Wed, 29 November 2006 11:07

DJ

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

Hey!!!!.

Thanks Aaron. Now HTF do I stick this thing to the top of my C-16? Is there
some kind of translucent paper with an adhesive backing? I guess I could try
to figure something like this out using labels or something.

Appreciated.

;o)

Deej

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:456dd443@linux...
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456dbc80@linux...
>>I just checked the manual. In "Pro" mode, the button that is used to
>>record
>> enable tracks in *standard* mode is called *fine* and this will allow it.
>> Of
>> course, I don't use "Pro" mode. Maybe I should. anyone got a "Pro"
>> overlay?.or should I get one of those cute little Smurf Blue C-16's?
>>
>> Did Pro mode ever work correctly? Seems I recall some *features* that
>> were
>> less than great, but since I never used it............
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message
>> news:456db378$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I don't think there is a way to have finer control using the C-16.
>>> Rod
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>I'm blowing off cobwebs, but perhaps try control, or alt ?
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456cf2ed@linux...
>>>>> I've been mousing my pans or a long time because my C-16's weren't in
>>> my
>>>>> sweet spot. That has now changed. It's been years since I've used the
>>> C-16
>>>>> for much of anything other than grabbing faders now anf then. I notice
>>>
>>>>> that the pan controls of the C-16 are only allowing incremental moves
>>> of 5
>>>>> points (90..............<20<15<10<5<0>5>10>15>20>..........90)
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a key combo that will alllow me to rotate this control on the
>>>
>>>>> C-16 using single points?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Deej
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76511 is a reply to message #76509]

Wed, 29 November 2006 11:09

DJ

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

Not yet. I've got all the stuff here to start the build now though. It's
just finding the time, but things are getting more manageable now that I've
caught up an a few things so I'll be getting to it ASAP.

Deej

"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:456dd652$1@linux...
>
> Sooooo...have you actually gotten Paris to run on a Dual Core AMD?? I'd
> be
> VERY interested if you have. If it's still a "hopeful" scenario, I'll be
> watching you posts. Lead the way DR. Frankenstein.
> ;-)
> Rod
>
>
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>Yes. I just setmy system to C-16 Pro mode and tried it. It works. Now, if
>
>>something doesn't catch on fire...........
>>
>>Those were cool latency charts you did BTW. Lots of work and much
>>appreciated. I'm going to be getting my new 13 slot Magma in here later
> this
>>week and will be loading my Pulsar cards in it, then setting up a parallel
>
>>rig running Win XP on a dual core AMD CPU with a Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra
> 939
>>mobo, the 4 x EDS cards in the 7 x slot Magma, the 4 x UAD-1 cards (in the
>
>>13 slot Magma that they currently occupy) and possibly an RME HDSP card
> in
>>this rig so just in case Chuck's mystery project comes up with a way to
>
>>interface Cubase SX with Paris via ASIO, I'll be ready. The IRQ dance
>>should
>
>>be an interesting one, but since Paris and UAD-1 cards will share, it
>>might
>
>>be possible. In the meantime, I'll be using the parallel rig for VSTi's.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:456dc3dd$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I never used it either, so I don't know.
>>> Rod
>>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>>>I just checked the manual. In "Pro" mode, the button that is used to
>>>>record
>>>
>>>>enable tracks in *standard* mode is called *fine* and this will allow
> it.
>>> Of
>>>>course, I don't use "Pro" mode. Maybe I should. anyone got a "Pro"
>>>>overlay?.or should I get one of those cute little Smurf Blue C-16's?
>>>>
>>>>Did Pro mode ever work correctly? Seems I recall some *features* that
> were
>>>
>>>>less than great, but since I never used it............
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:456db378$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think there is a way to have finer control using the C-16.
>>>>> Rod
>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>>I'm blowing off cobwebs, but perhaps try control, or alt ?
>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456cf2ed@linux...
>>>>>>> I've been mousing my pans or a long time because my C-16's weren't
> in
>>>>> my
>>>>>>> sweet spot. That has now changed. It's been years since I've used
> the
>>>>> C-16
>>>>>>> for much of anything other than grabbing faders now anf then. I
>>>>>>> notice
>>>>>
>>>>>>> that the pan controls of the C-16 are only allowing incremental
>>>>>>> moves
>>>>> of 5
>>>>>>> points (90..............<20<15<10<5<0>5>10>15>20>..........90)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there a key combo that will alllow me to rotate this control on
> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>> C-16 using single points?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76512 is a reply to message #76511]

Wed, 29 November 2006 12:30

Rod Lincoln
Messages: 883
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

Cool....I'll be watching the posts...when the blood stops, I may jump in.
Rod
"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>Not yet. I've got all the stuff here to start the build now though. It's

>just finding the time, but things are getting more manageable now that I've

>caught up an a few things so I'll be getting to it ASAP.
>
>Deej
>
>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:456dd652$1@linux...
>>
>> Sooooo...have you actually gotten Paris to run on a Dual Core AMD?? I'd

>> be
>> VERY interested if you have. If it's still a "hopeful" scenario, I'll
be
>> watching you posts. Lead the way DR. Frankenstein.
>> ;-)
>> Rod
>>
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>>Yes. I just setmy system to C-16 Pro mode and tried it. It works. Now,
if
>>
>>>something doesn't catch on fire...........
>>>
>>>Those were cool latency charts you did BTW. Lots of work and much
>>>appreciated. I'm going to be getting my new 13 slot Magma in here later
>> this
>>>week and will be loading my Pulsar cards in it, then setting up a parallel
>>
>>>rig running Win XP on a dual core AMD CPU with a Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra
>> 939
>>>mobo, the 4 x EDS cards in the 7 x slot Magma, the 4 x UAD-1 cards (in
the
>>
>>>13 slot Magma that they currently occupy) and possibly an RME HDSP card
>> in
>>>this rig so just in case Chuck's mystery project comes up with a way to
>>
>>>interface Cubase SX with Paris via ASIO, I'll be ready. The IRQ dance

>>>should
>>
>>>be an interesting one, but since Paris and UAD-1 cards will share, it

>>>might
>>
>>>be possible. In the meantime, I'll be using the parallel rig for VSTi's.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:456dc3dd$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I never used it either, so I don't know.
>>>> Rod
>>>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>>>>I just checked the manual. In "Pro" mode, the button that is used to
>>>>>record
>>>>
>>>>>enable tracks in *standard* mode is called *fine* and this will allow
>> it.
>>>> Of
>>>>>course, I don't use "Pro" mode. Maybe I should. anyone got a "Pro"
>>>>>overlay?.or should I get one of those cute little Smurf Blue C-16's?
>>>>>
>>>>>Did Pro mode ever work correctly? Seems I recall some *features* that
>> were
>>>>
>>>>>less than great, but since I never used it............
>>>>>
>>>>>;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:456db378$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think there is a way to have finer control using the C-16.
>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>>>I'm blowing off cobwebs, but perhaps try control, or alt ?
>>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456cf2ed@linux...
>>>>>>>> I've been mousing my pans or a long time because my C-16's weren't
>> in
>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> sweet spot. That has now changed. It's been years since I've used
>> the
>>>>>> C-16
>>>>>>>> for much of anything other than grabbing faders now anf then. I

>>>>>>>> notice
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that the pan controls of the C-16 are only allowing incremental

>>>>>>>> moves
>>>>>> of 5
>>>>>>>> points (90..............<20<15<10<5<0>5>10>15>20>..........90)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there a key combo that will alllow me to rotate this control
on
>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C-16 using single points?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76513 is a reply to message #76512]

Wed, 29 November 2006 11:43

DJ

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

Well.I've gotta' do something adventurous. My Pulsar rig is so friggin
stable that I'm bored to tears.

;oD

"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:456ddfeb$1@linux...
>
> Cool....I'll be watching the posts...when the blood stops, I may jump in.
> Rod
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>Not yet. I've got all the stuff here to start the build now though. It's
>
>>just finding the time, but things are getting more manageable now that
>>I've
>
>>caught up an a few things so I'll be getting to it ASAP.
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:456dd652$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Sooooo...have you actually gotten Paris to run on a Dual Core AMD?? I'd
>
>>> be
>>> VERY interested if you have. If it's still a "hopeful" scenario, I'll
> be
>>> watching you posts. Lead the way DR. Frankenstein.
>>> ;-)
>>> Rod
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>>>Yes. I just setmy system to C-16 Pro mode and tried it. It works. Now,
> if
>>>
>>>>something doesn't catch on fire...........
>>>>
>>>>Those were cool latency charts you did BTW. Lots of work and much
>>>>appreciated. I'm going to be getting my new 13 slot Magma in here later
>>> this
>>>>week and will be loading my Pulsar cards in it, then setting up a
>>>>parallel
>>>
>>>>rig running Win XP on a dual core AMD CPU with a Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultra
>>> 939
>>>>mobo, the 4 x EDS cards in the 7 x slot Magma, the 4 x UAD-1 cards (in
> the
>>>
>>>>13 slot Magma that they currently occupy) and possibly an RME HDSP card
>>> in
>>>>this rig so just in case Chuck's mystery project comes up with a way to
>>>
>>>>interface Cubase SX with Paris via ASIO, I'll be ready. The IRQ dance
>
>>>>should
>>>
>>>>be an interesting one, but since Paris and UAD-1 cards will share, it
>
>>>>might
>>>
>>>>be possible. In the meantime, I'll be using the parallel rig for VSTi's.
>>>>
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:456dc3dd$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> I never used it either, so I don't know.
>>>>> Rod
>>>>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>>>>>I just checked the manual. In "Pro" mode, the button that is used to
>>>>>>record
>>>>>
>>>>>>enable tracks in *standard* mode is called *fine* and this will allow
>>> it.
>>>>> Of
>>>>>>course, I don't use "Pro" mode. Maybe I should. anyone got a "Pro"
>>>>>>overlay?.or should I get one of those cute little Smurf Blue C-16's?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Did Pro mode ever work correctly? Seems I recall some *features* that
>>> were
>>>>>
>>>>>>less than great, but since I never used it............
>>>>>>
>>>>>>;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:456db378$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think there is a way to have finer control using the C-16.
>>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>>>>I'm blowing off cobwebs, but perhaps try control, or alt ?
>>>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456cf2ed@linux...
>>>>>>>>> I've been mousing my pans or a long time because my C-16's weren't
>>> in
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> sweet spot. That has now changed. It's been years since I've used
>>> the
>>>>>>> C-16
>>>>>>>>> for much of anything other than grabbing faders now anf then. I
>
>>>>>>>>> notice
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that the pan controls of the C-16 are only allowing incremental
>
>>>>>>>>> moves
>>>>>>> of 5
>>>>>>>>> points (90..............<20<15<10<5<0>5>10>15>20>..........90)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there a key combo that will alllow me to rotate this control
> on
>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> C-16 using single points?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76514 is a reply to message #76510]

Wed, 29 November 2006 12:42

Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

Try a Kinko's near you - they might be able to copy it onto an
adhesive-backed clear thingy.

Neil

"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>Hey!!!!.
>
>Thanks Aaron. Now HTF do I stick this thing to the top of my C-16? Is there

>some kind of translucent paper with an adhesive backing? I guess I could
try
>to figure something like this out using labels or something.
>
>Appreciated.
>
>;o)
>
>Deej
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:456dd443@linux...
>>
>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456dbc80@linux...
>>>I just checked the manual. In "Pro" mode, the button that is used to
>>>record
>>> enable tracks in *standard* mode is called *fine* and this will allow
it.
>>> Of
>>> course, I don't use "Pro" mode. Maybe I should. anyone got a "Pro"
>>> overlay?.or should I get one of those cute little Smurf Blue C-16's?
>>>
>>> Did Pro mode ever work correctly? Seems I recall some *features* that

>>> were
>>> less than great, but since I never used it............
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message
>>> news:456db378$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> I don't think there is a way to have finer control using the C-16.
>>>> Rod
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>I'm blowing off cobwebs, but perhaps try control, or alt ?
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456cf2ed@linux...
>>>>>> I've been mousing my pans or a long time because my C-16's weren't
in
>>>> my
>>>>>> sweet spot. That has now changed. It's been years since I've used
the
>>>> C-16
>>>>>> for much of anything other than grabbing faders now anf then. I notice
>>>>
>>>>>> that the pan controls of the C-16 are only allowing incremental moves
>>>> of 5
>>>>>> points (90..............<20<15<10<5<0>5>10>15>20>..........90)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a key combo that will alllow me to rotate this control on
the
>>>>
>>>>>> C-16 using single points?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76516 is a reply to message #76514]

Wed, 29 November 2006 12:14

DJ

Messages: 1124
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

KINKO's!!!?????...............dude, in order to do something like this
areound here I have to huitch up the team, gather the sherpas and fight the
ravenous wolves to get across the mountain passes to the tar pits, then dig
and oil well myself by hand, refine the petroleum into clear plastic and
then go out and find a lightning strike somewhere so I can statrt a fire and
burn some wood to create charcoal, then I have to knap a blade out of flint,
fashion a spear and go hunt down an elk or something so that I can mix it's
blood with the charcoal in order o create indelible ink..............and
then........uhhhh....well.....maybe they could do this at Office
Depot..There is actually have one of those here. I haven't seen a Kinkos in
years.

;o)

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:456de2a4$1@linux...
>
> Try a Kinko's near you - they might be able to copy it onto an
> adhesive-backed clear thingy.
>
> Neil
>
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>Hey!!!!.
>>
>>Thanks Aaron. Now HTF do I stick this thing to the top of my C-16? Is
>>there
>
>>some kind of translucent paper with an adhesive backing? I guess I could
> try
>>to figure something like this out using labels or something.
>>
>>Appreciated.
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>Deej
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>news:456dd443@linux...
>>>
>>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456dbc80@linux...
>>>>I just checked the manual. In "Pro" mode, the button that is used to
>>>>record
>>>> enable tracks in *standard* mode is called *fine* and this will allow
> it.
>>>> Of
>>>> course, I don't use "Pro" mode. Maybe I should. anyone got a "Pro"
>>>> overlay?.or should I get one of those cute little Smurf Blue C-16's?
>>>>
>>>> Did Pro mode ever work correctly? Seems I recall some *features* that
>
>>>> were
>>>> less than great, but since I never used it............
>>>>
>>>> ;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:456db378$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think there is a way to have finer control using the C-16.
>>>>> Rod
>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>>I'm blowing off cobwebs, but perhaps try control, or alt ?
>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456cf2ed@linux...
>>>>>>> I've been mousing my pans or a long time because my C-16's weren't
> in
>>>>> my
>>>>>>> sweet spot. That has now changed. It's been years since I've used
> the
>>>>> C-16
>>>>>>> for much of anything other than grabbing faders now anf then. I
>>>>>>> notice
>>>>>
>>>>>>> that the pan controls of the C-16 are only allowing incremental
>>>>>>> moves
>>>>> of 5
>>>>>>> points (90..............<20<15<10<5<0>5>10>15>20>..........90)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there a key combo that will alllow me to rotate this control on
> the
>>>>>
>>>>>>> C-16 using single points?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76522 is a reply to message #76516]

Wed, 29 November 2006 18:15

excelav

Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

Senior Member

Some newer computer printers will print to clear plastic sheets for overhead
projectors. Check out your printers to see if they will work. There is
a C-16 Pro templet on the Paris FAQ site. Maybe you could print, die cut,
and glue down with contact cement or Velcro it. Or, you know, just use duct
tape; )

What would really be good, is the clear material they use for those non adhesive
window stickers. If non of that works, you could just use a P-Touch printer
with black tape instead.

James

"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>KINKO's!!!?????...............dude, in order to do something like this
>areound here I have to huitch up the team, gather the sherpas and fight
the
>ravenous wolves to get across the mountain passes to the tar pits, then
dig
>and oil well myself by hand, refine the petroleum into clear plastic and

>then go out and find a lightning strike somewhere so I can statrt a fire
and
>burn some wood to create charcoal, then I have to knap a blade out of flint,

>fashion a spear and go hunt down an elk or something so that I can mix it's

>blood with the charcoal in order o create indelible ink..............and

>then........uhhhh....well.....maybe they could do this at Office
>Depot..There is actually have one of those here. I haven't seen a Kinkos
in
>years.
>
>;o)
>
>
>"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:456de2a4$1@linux...
>>
>> Try a Kinko's near you - they might be able to copy it onto an
>> adhesive-backed clear thingy.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>>Hey!!!!.
>>>
>>>Thanks Aaron. Now HTF do I stick this thing to the top of my C-16? Is

>>>there
>>
>>>some kind of translucent paper with an adhesive backing? I guess I could
>> try
>>>to figure something like this out using labels or something.
>>>
>>>Appreciated.
>>>
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>news:456dd443@linux...
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456dbc80@linux...
>>>>>I just checked the manual. In "Pro" mode, the button that is used to
>>>>>record
>>>>> enable tracks in *standard* mode is called *fine* and this will allow
>> it.
>>>>> Of
>>>>> course, I don't use "Pro" mode. Maybe I should. anyone got a "Pro"
>>>>> overlay?.or should I get one of those cute little Smurf Blue C-16's?
>>>>>
>>>>> Did Pro mode ever work correctly? Seems I recall some *features* that
>>
>>>>> were
>>>>> less than great, but since I never used it............
>>>>>
>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.r.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:456db378$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think there is a way to have finer control using the C-16.
>>>>>> Rod
>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>>>I'm blowing off cobwebs, but perhaps try control, or alt ?
>>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote in message news:456cf2ed@linux...
>>>>>>>> I've been mousing my pans or a long time because my C-16's weren't
>> in
>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> sweet spot. That has now changed. It's been years since I've used
>> the
>>>>>> C-16
>>>>>>>> for much of anything other than grabbing faders now anf then. I

>>>>>>>> notice
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that the pan controls of the C-16 are only allowing incremental

>>>>>>>> moves
>>>>>> of 5
>>>>>>>> points (90..............<20<15<10<5<0>5>10>15>20>..........90)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there a key combo that will alllow me to rotate this control
on
>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> C-16 using single points?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76524 is a reply to message #76516]

Wed, 29 November 2006 18:49

Gene Lennon[4]
Messages: 26
Registered: November 2006

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"DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>KINKO's!!!?????...............dude, in order to do something like this
>areound here I have to huitch up the team, gather the sherpas and fight
the
>ravenous wolves to get across the mountain passes to the tar pits, then
dig
>and oil well myself by hand, refine the petroleum into clear plastic and

>then go out and find a lightning strike somewhere so I can statrt a fire
and
>burn some wood to create charcoal, then I have to knap a blade out of flint,

>fashion a spear and go hunt down an elk or something so that I can mix it's

>blood with the charcoal in order o create indelible ink..............and

>then........uhhhh....well.....maybe they could do this at Office
>Depot..There is actually have one of those here. I haven't seen a Kinkos
in
>years.
>

Wow! That�s unbelievable. I didn�t know you had elk out there.
;o)
Gene

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Re: Finer increments with panning using C-16 [message #76525 is a reply to message #76524]

Wed, 29 November 2006 18:18

DJ

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Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

I was walking home from the hot springs last night and saw one about that
size crossing the road about 50 yards in front of me. I'm not kidding in the
least. He was trailed by 5 or 6 cows. It's the end of hunting season here
and the big, smart ones have survived by hanging out in the suburbs. We've
got about 4 acres of pasture behind the house here and this valley is one of
the largest elk wintering grounds in the US. They usually inhabit the big
meadows and the golf course across the road from us next to the Animas river
during the day (which makes the groundskeepers absolutely nuts) but after
the sun goes down they sometimes cross the highway, jump the fence and hang
out with our horses at night and they are just as big as the horses.

;o)

"Gene Lennon" <glennon@NOSpammyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:456e3890$1@linux...
>
> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>KINKO's!!!?????...............dude, in order to do something like this
>>areound here I have to huitch up the team, gather the sherpas and fight
> the
>>ravenous wolves to get across the mountain passes to the tar pits, then
> dig
>>and oil well myself by hand, refine the petroleum into clear plastic and
>
>>then go out and find a lightning strike somewhere so I can statrt a fire
> and
>>burn some wood to create charcoal, then I have to knap a blade out of
>>flint,
>
>>fashion a spear and go hunt down an elk or something so that I can mix
>>it's
>
>>blood with the charcoal in order o create indelible ink..............and
>
>>then........uhhhh....well.....maybe they could do this at Office
>>Depot..There is actually have one of those here. I haven't seen a Kinkos
> in
>>years.
>>
>
> Wow! That's unbelievable. I didn't know you had elk out there.
> ;o)
> Gene
>
>

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