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| Micro Xp [message #99413] |
Thu, 03 July 2008 20:53  |
Mike Bloomer
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Micro XP is a hacked stripped down version of XP.It's apparently popular with
gamers... A friend at work got a hold of a copy and I had a chance to try
it.I work at a computer repair shop and the idea behind trying it was to
make some of the older P3s usable again. It works! It takes about 10 minutes
to do a complete install. When the system is booted up it uses 36 meg of
memory and runs 15 processes! Nearly everything has been stripped from the
OS. There is no local networking, no scheduling, and no internet explorer.
It will run Firefox though so internet is possible.Most XP programs will
run on it.
Just for giggles I loaded it on a 900MHz P3 with 256mb ram. Then I installed
Cubase LE and loaded in 10 stereo tracks of audio and 15 plugins. It ran
it perfectly and wasn't bogged down at all! So I added 10 more stereo tracks
and it ran those.
I tried it on my Paris box at home as a dual boot and so far so good. It
seems to be immune to some of Paris's bugs.
If you decide to try it get version .08 not version .06 which is more commonly
available. I'm still testing I'll do a more complete synopsis when I'm finished....
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| Re: Micro Xp [message #99427 is a reply to message #99419] |
Fri, 04 July 2008 11:33  |
Robert
Messages: 127
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A bit more info I found :-)
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MicroXP v0.82
by eXPerience
____________________________________________________________ _________
Thank you for trying this special MicroXP edition of Windows XP.
With a WINDOWS folder that is only 199Mb and a CD size of just 99.9Mb,
this has to be one of the smallest Windows XP installations out there.
Whats more - you can use 99% of the programs you always use and up to
now there is not one single report of any game not working in MicroXP.
This installation takes only 5 Minutes 30 seconds.
This install includes default XP drivers for Ethernet/Sound/SCSI/RAID
It has all languages kept, except Chinese/Japanese/Korean.
It has all keyboard layout choices kept.
It also has Service Pack 3 final slipstreamed into it.
LAN Networking is now possible - Use \\\\\\\'Map Network Drive\\\\\\\' and
just put
the computer name of the computer you want to network with.
Digital Cameras and Scanners can also now be used.
The ISO file size is the same as in the previous release - 99.9Mb
____________________________________________________________ _________
[Statistics]
Installation time, in VMware, from
ISO file, from end of formatting .......... 5 Mins 30 Secs
RAM Usage On First Installation ........... 39 Mb
Handles ................................... 2229
Threads ................................... 157
Processes ................................. 15
Entire Install Size ....................... 205Mb
Documents and settings folder size ........ 3.19 Mb
Program Files folder size ................. 2.79 Mb
WINDOWS folder size ....................... 199 Mb
Files In System32 ......................... 815
ISO File Size ............................. 99.9 Mb
____________________________________________________________ _________
[Services Remaining In Windows]
Cryptographic Services
DCOM Server Process Launcher
DHCP Client
Event Log
Logical Disk Manager
Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service
Network Connections
Plug and Play
Print Spooler
Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
Remote Access Connection Manager
Remote Procedure Call
Server
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper
Telephony
Windows Audio
Windows Image Acquisition (WIA)
Windows Installer
Wireless Zero Configuration
Workstation
All these services are enabled on installation,
so you can start using Windows straight away.
____________________________________________________________ _________
[eXPerience Desktop Folder Contents]
Desktop Icon Layout (Lets you save your desktop icon layout)
Driver Install Tool (Easily install all your drivers, see ReadMe)
Keyboard Settings (Quick access to Regional and Language options)
Networking Guide (Shows how to get connected to your networked PC\\\\\\\'s)
Registry Backup (Make a complete backup of the registry in one click)
Services Config (Files to enable and disable functionality)
ShrinkXP Scripts (to remove any items you do not want or need)
Web Browser (Browzar, to download a full browser of YOUR choice)
Windows Media Player 11 (This is just a readme file about WMP11)
____________________________________________________________ _________
[WHAT YOU CANNOT DO]
This is a greatly reduced installation of Windows XP Professional SP3
Please read these notes BEFORE using this edition of Windows:
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- SINGLE USER ONLY
You cannot add any additional users. Do not try to add more users,
otherwise your main account that is used by default (Administrator)
will become the new account and after logging in, you will not have
any desktop theme (not even Classic) and the whole account will be
ruined. You\\\\\\\'ll probably have to install Windows again because if
you make a new account it replaces Administrator and tries to
log you in with Default User - the problem with this is - there
is no Default User anymore.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- NO NATIVE SUPPORT FOR FTP SITES
There is no built in support for downloading from FTP sites,
try using Filezilla or WS_FTP if you need to do that. Even just
Opera or Firefox can probably do it. This functionality is gone
because the Application Layer Gateway service is gone, along
with ALG.EXE that normally runs in Task Manager, taking up about
6Mb RAM for what amounts to no reason.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- NO VISITING WINDOWS UPDATE
You cannot visit Windows Update with this version of Windows
because Internet Explorer is removed. You can manually download
updates from Microsoft and you can also use the alternative
Windiz Update website through Opera or Firefox. Because so
much has been removed from this edition of Windows, you are not
likely to be any more safe installing updates for Windows.
NOTE: Because this edition of Windows uses a patched
winlogon.exe in order to remove the oembios.bin file,
you really should not update Windows anyway, in case
winlogon.exe gets replaced by an update. There are more
details about this in the eXPerience folder on the desktop
once MicroXP is installed.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- NO FAST USER SWITCHING
Apart from you only being able to have the one account anyway
(Administrator) the ability to do Fast User Switching is also
removed.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- NO PASSWORD STORAGE/AUTOCOMPLETE
Windows will not save stored passwords, however, this only really
applied to Internet Explorer and Outlook Express, which are removed.
You will be fine using Firefox or Opera web browsers and Thunderbird
email client for emails. Those are self contained programs and take
care of storing your passwords by themselves.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- NO CD-ROM AUTOPLAY
When you insert a CD that would bring up a screen to install the
program contained on the CD, this does not happen in this version
of Windows, you will have to explore the CD manually and run
whatever file it is that runs the program\\\\\\\'s setup, usually
setup.exe on the root of the CD. If the CD has a file called
AUTORUN.INF then open that file and look at which .exe file
is listed in AUTORUN.INF
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- NO SMART CARD DETECTION
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- NO SCHEDULED TASKS
You cannot set programs, like AntiVirus or Hard Disk Defrag programs
to run in the future IF they need the Scheduled Tasks service in
Windows. If you are going to run those types of programs you will
have to manually scan or defrag whenever it is convenient. Despite
this, one program that will schedule its operations is Perfectdisk
defrag, you do not need Task Scheduler for this program to run a
scheduled defrag.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- NO REMOTE DESKTOP
There is no Remote Desktop in this version of Windows
because the Terminal Services service is removed.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- NO THEMES
You cannot have the Luna (Blue/Olive/Silver) desktop theme in this
version of Windows, the only theme you can choose is Windows
Classic which it is already set to by default. You can however
install Windowblinds if you want to and it will work fine,
Windowblinds does not rely on the Themes service. You could even
make MicroXP look like Vista with the Ironjer AeroGlass The
Remix V4. Use v4 not v5 of that if you use it.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- NO UNINTERRUPTIBLE POWER SUPPLY SERVICE
I always thought UPS Service delivered parcels but apparently not,
if you have this type of device then it will not work on this version
of Windows. A UPS is only used for emergencies like if you have
a power cut - thats if you even have such a device.
____________________________________________________________ _________
[WHAT YOU CAN DO]
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- PROGRAMS -
You can still install and run just about all the programs and games
that you can run on a normal installation of XP. There is a text file
in the eXPerience folder on the desktop that has a list of programs
that work and includes some that don\\\\\\\'t work (not many). Even Office
2007 installs on this version of Windows
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- GAMES -
Up to now, there has not been one single report of any game not
working on MicroXP. Gaming is what this edition of Windows is all
about, it gives better benchmarks than any other version of
Windows I have ever tested.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- LAN NETWORKING -
At last - MicroXP now has the ability to browse your local network.
All you need to know is the computer name of the computer you want
to connect to and thats about it, just right click My Computer and
choose Map Network Drive. All computers can see each other even
if every computer in the network is running this MicroXP.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- CAMERAS AND SCANNERS
Now in MicroXP it is possible to use a digital camera (USB only,
no Firewire) or a scanner. Tested and working with a Fuji FinePix
6MP camera. The Photo Printing Wizard is not included, neither
is the wizard to download photos from the internet, but the rest
of the functionality for cameras and scanners is as complete as
in full Windows. My favourite saying: whats missing, you\\\\\\\'re not
gonna miss! Print photos with Photoshop or maybe even Irfanview.
Ctrl+P to print works in every single program that supports it,
so its not like we ever needed the photo printing wizard, which
only ever made all images I fed through it A4, even small images,
so it actually did not even work, unless I skipped a button but
there really are no buttons to skip in that wizard, its useless.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- DIAL-UP CONNECTION -
You can still use a Dial-Up connection (Broadband or old 56k modem).
This is the one major flaw in other stripped out operating systems,
a lot of UK users still use a modem with broadband... in this
edition, RAS Dial-Up/PPPoE/DSL/ADSL connectivity is OK as well
as old 56k modems. Yes, try this install on a Pentium II or even
an old 486 might run it! They had 75Mhz processors and 8Mb RAM
with 4Mb graphics cards.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- WEB BROWSER -
This installation already includes a basic web browser called
Browzar that uses a few core files left from Internet
Explorer. No, Internet Explorer is not included, but select
files included in this installation that come from Internet
Explorer are vital to running Windows. Its also Internet Explorer
related files that allow you to open CHM files, which you can do
in this edition of Windows. This Browzar web browser is only here
so you can at least get online and download Firefox, Opera, Netscape
or whatever browser you want. This not only saves space on this CD,
but you get to choose what web browser you want to use and you get
the latest version not an old and possibly insecure version. Flash
v9.0.124.0 for Firefox and Opera is included, so Google Video and
YouTube work straight away in whichever browser you install.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- PASSES WGA CHECKS
If you go to download for example, Windows Media Player 11 from
Microsoft\\\\\\\'s downloads section, you will need to validate windows
by running the GenuineCheck.exe file that Microsoft asks you to
download as part of the Windows Genuine Advantage checks. Its
fine to do this, don\\\\\\\'t be scared of your key being blacklisted.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER 11
You can install Windows Media Player 11 in this edition of Windows.
NOTE: Because the file WMPLOC.DLL is not in system32, Windows Media
Player 11 will say that it could not complete setup or words to
that effect. IGNORE THIS ERROR! Windows Media Player 11 is fully
working after you install it and get that error, Windows Media
Video type formats stream in Opera and Firefox still - so you can
ignore that installation error. Just make sure if you install
Windows Media Player 11 to have the Cryptographic Services
service enabled. Windows Media Player 11 needs that service started
to install. After installing Windows Media Player 11 you can then
disable Cryptographic Services if you wish, like a lot of stuff
in Windows, it doesn\\\\\\\'t really do anything important.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- WMV STREAMS -
Once you have installed Opera, Firefox, Netscape or the browser
of your choice, as long as you install Windows Media Player 11,
you can stream Windows Media Videos from websites like the BBC\\\\\\\'s
News website, or anywhere that has WMV streams. This is possible
because there are three DLL files added to the Windows Media
Player folder in Program Files. Don\\\\\\\'t worry, theres no Windows
Media Player there, it only contains the vital DLL files for
streaming compatibility in Firefox and Opera if you install
Windows Media Player 11. Note that you do need to install Windows
Media Player 11 to view .WMV movies in web pages.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
- FLASH -
If you install Opera or Firefox web browser(s) in this special
MicroXP edition of Windows, you can go visit YouTube or Google
Video without even having to install Flash Player. You can just
watch the videos right away.
____________________________________________________________ _________
Release Date: June 22nd 2008
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"Rob Arsenault" <mani1147athotmaildotcom> wrote in message
news:486e2435$1@linux...
> Great news Mike, keep us posted.
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> "Mike Bloomer" <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:486d9ec7@linux...
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>> Micro XP is a hacked stripped down version of XP.It's apparently popular
>> with
>> gamers... A friend at work got a hold of a copy and I had a chance to try
>> it.I work at a computer repair shop and the idea behind trying it was to
>> make some of the older P3s usable again. It works! It takes about 10
>> minutes
>> to do a complete install. When the system is booted up it uses 36 meg of
>> memory and runs 15 processes! Nearly everything has been stripped from
>> the
>> OS. There is no local networking, no scheduling, and no internet
>> explorer.
>> It will run Firefox though so internet is possible.Most XP programs will
>> run on it.
>> Just for giggles I loaded it on a 900MHz P3 with 256mb ram. Then I
>> installed
>> Cubase LE and loaded in 10 stereo tracks of audio and 15 plugins. It ran
>> it perfectly and wasn't bogged down at all! So I added 10 more stereo
>> tracks
>> and it ran those.
>> I tried it on my Paris box at home as a dual boot and so far so good. It
>> seems to be immune to some of Paris's bugs.
>> If you decide to try it get version .08 not version .06 which is more
>> commonly
>> available. I'm still testing I'll do a more complete synopsis when I'm
>> finished....
>> MB
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| Re: Micro Xp [message #99440 is a reply to message #99413] |
Sat, 05 July 2008 19:45 |
TCB
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If you install a boxed copy of XP and patch it, you're not all that far from
this. You might have to do a bit to stop some services from starting, but
it's only a few. I don't about the handle and thread counts mentioned re:
MicroXP
However, with MicroXP you lose LAN networking, user accounts (I know what
they're doing to do that, don't think it's a good idea), remote desktop,
automatic updates (you want to run an unpatched XP machine? You sure?), and
a bunch of other stuff. I don't think that's a good trade.
TCB
"Mike Bloomer" <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
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>Micro XP is a hacked stripped down version of XP.It's apparently popular
with
>gamers... A friend at work got a hold of a copy and I had a chance to try
>it.I work at a computer repair shop and the idea behind trying it was to
>make some of the older P3s usable again. It works! It takes about 10 minutes
>to do a complete install. When the system is booted up it uses 36 meg of
>memory and runs 15 processes! Nearly everything has been stripped from the
>OS. There is no local networking, no scheduling, and no internet explorer.
>It will run Firefox though so internet is possible.Most XP programs will
>run on it.
>Just for giggles I loaded it on a 900MHz P3 with 256mb ram. Then I installed
>Cubase LE and loaded in 10 stereo tracks of audio and 15 plugins. It ran
>it perfectly and wasn't bogged down at all! So I added 10 more stereo tracks
>and it ran those.
>I tried it on my Paris box at home as a dual boot and so far so good. It
>seems to be immune to some of Paris's bugs.
>If you decide to try it get version .08 not version .06 which is more commonly
>available. I'm still testing I'll do a more complete synopsis when I'm finished....
>MB
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| Re: Micro Xp [message #99442 is a reply to message #99440] |
Sat, 05 July 2008 20:55 |
tubeguru
Messages: 14
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That's true, and on a really powerful computer you might not gain that
much in terms of resources. I did notice a definite increase in speed
snd smoothness and Paris seems a bit less buggy. Whether it actually is
I will find out after more exhaustive testing. I don't really miss LAN I
never used it on my DAW, and my DAW never goes on the internet. The
remote services are also pretty useless on a DAW. I think the best of
both worlds would be separate installations on separate partitions.
Where it really seems to shine is in obsolete boxes like P2s and P3s...
MB
TCB wrote:
> If you install a boxed copy of XP and patch it, you're not all that far from
> this. You might have to do a bit to stop some services from starting, but
> it's only a few. I don't about the handle and thread counts mentioned re:
> MicroXP
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> However, with MicroXP you lose LAN networking, user accounts (I know what
> they're doing to do that, don't think it's a good idea), remote desktop,
> automatic updates (you want to run an unpatched XP machine? You sure?), and
> a bunch of other stuff. I don't think that's a good trade.
>
> TCB
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> "Mike Bloomer" <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Micro XP is a hacked stripped down version of XP.It's apparently popular
> with
>> gamers... A friend at work got a hold of a copy and I had a chance to try
>> it.I work at a computer repair shop and the idea behind trying it was to
>> make some of the older P3s usable again. It works! It takes about 10 minutes
>> to do a complete install. When the system is booted up it uses 36 meg of
>> memory and runs 15 processes! Nearly everything has been stripped from the
>> OS. There is no local networking, no scheduling, and no internet explorer.
>> It will run Firefox though so internet is possible.Most XP programs will
>> run on it.
>> Just for giggles I loaded it on a 900MHz P3 with 256mb ram. Then I installed
>> Cubase LE and loaded in 10 stereo tracks of audio and 15 plugins. It ran
>> it perfectly and wasn't bogged down at all! So I added 10 more stereo tracks
>> and it ran those.
>> I tried it on my Paris box at home as a dual boot and so far so good. It
>> seems to be immune to some of Paris's bugs.
>> If you decide to try it get version .08 not version .06 which is more commonly
>> available. I'm still testing I'll do a more complete synopsis when I'm finished....
>> MB
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| Re: Micro Xp [message #99444 is a reply to message #99440] |
Sat, 05 July 2008 20:58 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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well, I'm thinking standalone never-touch-the-internet kind of stuff.
Production box only. For this, do you see any problems?
AA
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:487031e4$1@linux...
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> If you install a boxed copy of XP and patch it, you're not all that far
> from
> this. You might have to do a bit to stop some services from starting, but
> it's only a few. I don't about the handle and thread counts mentioned re:
> MicroXP
>
> However, with MicroXP you lose LAN networking, user accounts (I know what
> they're doing to do that, don't think it's a good idea), remote desktop,
> automatic updates (you want to run an unpatched XP machine? You sure?),
> and
> a bunch of other stuff. I don't think that's a good trade.
>
> TCB
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> "Mike Bloomer" <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Micro XP is a hacked stripped down version of XP.It's apparently popular
> with
>>gamers... A friend at work got a hold of a copy and I had a chance to try
>>it.I work at a computer repair shop and the idea behind trying it was to
>>make some of the older P3s usable again. It works! It takes about 10
>>minutes
>>to do a complete install. When the system is booted up it uses 36 meg of
>>memory and runs 15 processes! Nearly everything has been stripped from the
>>OS. There is no local networking, no scheduling, and no internet explorer.
>>It will run Firefox though so internet is possible.Most XP programs will
>>run on it.
>>Just for giggles I loaded it on a 900MHz P3 with 256mb ram. Then I
>>installed
>>Cubase LE and loaded in 10 stereo tracks of audio and 15 plugins. It ran
>>it perfectly and wasn't bogged down at all! So I added 10 more stereo
>>tracks
>>and it ran those.
>>I tried it on my Paris box at home as a dual boot and so far so good. It
>>seems to be immune to some of Paris's bugs.
>>If you decide to try it get version .08 not version .06 which is more
>>commonly
>>available. I'm still testing I'll do a more complete synopsis when I'm
>>finished....
>>MB
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| Re: Micro Xp [message #99446 is a reply to message #99444] |
Sun, 06 July 2008 04:08 |
John [1]
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doesn't the description say it does Lan networking ?
Aaron Allen wrote:
> well, I'm thinking standalone never-touch-the-internet kind of stuff.
> Production box only. For this, do you see any problems?
> AA
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> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:487031e4$1@linux...
>> If you install a boxed copy of XP and patch it, you're not all that far
>> from
>> this. You might have to do a bit to stop some services from starting, but
>> it's only a few. I don't about the handle and thread counts mentioned re:
>> MicroXP
>>
>> However, with MicroXP you lose LAN networking, user accounts (I know what
>> they're doing to do that, don't think it's a good idea), remote desktop,
>> automatic updates (you want to run an unpatched XP machine? You sure?),
>> and
>> a bunch of other stuff. I don't think that's a good trade.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "Mike Bloomer" <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Micro XP is a hacked stripped down version of XP.It's apparently popular
>> with
>>> gamers... A friend at work got a hold of a copy and I had a chance to try
>>> it.I work at a computer repair shop and the idea behind trying it was to
>>> make some of the older P3s usable again. It works! It takes about 10
>>> minutes
>>> to do a complete install. When the system is booted up it uses 36 meg of
>>> memory and runs 15 processes! Nearly everything has been stripped from the
>>> OS. There is no local networking, no scheduling, and no internet explorer.
>>> It will run Firefox though so internet is possible.Most XP programs will
>>> run on it.
>>> Just for giggles I loaded it on a 900MHz P3 with 256mb ram. Then I
>>> installed
>>> Cubase LE and loaded in 10 stereo tracks of audio and 15 plugins. It ran
>>> it perfectly and wasn't bogged down at all! So I added 10 more stereo
>>> tracks
>>> and it ran those.
>>> I tried it on my Paris box at home as a dual boot and so far so good. It
>>> seems to be immune to some of Paris's bugs.
>>> If you decide to try it get version .08 not version .06 which is more
>>> commonly
>>> available. I'm still testing I'll do a more complete synopsis when I'm
>>> finished....
>>> MB
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| Re: Micro Xp [message #99449 is a reply to message #99440] |
Sun, 06 July 2008 10:39 |
Chris Ludwig
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HI Thad,
Yep a normal Windows install disk and N-lite and you can create the same
thing.
This way you have an custom installer for XP with everything taken out
y7ou don't think is needed.
Also someone could just tweak their xp computer with some of the well
documented tweaks and image.
This will work well if they don't change hard ware often.
Best of all these to options are total legit and don't support piracy. :)
Chris
TCB wrote:
> If you install a boxed copy of XP and patch it, you're not all that far from
> this. You might have to do a bit to stop some services from starting, but
> it's only a few. I don't about the handle and thread counts mentioned re:
> MicroXP
>
> However, with MicroXP you lose LAN networking, user accounts (I know what
> they're doing to do that, don't think it's a good idea), remote desktop,
> automatic updates (you want to run an unpatched XP machine? You sure?), and
> a bunch of other stuff. I don't think that's a good trade.
>
> TCB
>
> "Mike Bloomer" <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Micro XP is a hacked stripped down version of XP.It's apparently popular
>>
> with
>
>> gamers... A friend at work got a hold of a copy and I had a chance to try
>> it.I work at a computer repair shop and the idea behind trying it was to
>> make some of the older P3s usable again. It works! It takes about 10 minutes
>> to do a complete install. When the system is booted up it uses 36 meg of
>> memory and runs 15 processes! Nearly everything has been stripped from the
>> OS. There is no local networking, no scheduling, and no internet explorer.
>> It will run Firefox though so internet is possible.Most XP programs will
>> run on it.
>> Just for giggles I loaded it on a 900MHz P3 with 256mb ram. Then I installed
>> Cubase LE and loaded in 10 stereo tracks of audio and 15 plugins. It ran
>> it perfectly and wasn't bogged down at all! So I added 10 more stereo tracks
>> and it ran those.
>> I tried it on my Paris box at home as a dual boot and so far so good. It
>> seems to be immune to some of Paris's bugs.
>> If you decide to try it get version .08 not version .06 which is more commonly
>> available. I'm still testing I'll do a more complete synopsis when I'm finished....
>> MB
>>
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Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
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| Re: Micro Xp [message #99450 is a reply to message #99449] |
Sun, 06 July 2008 16:51 |
TCB
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I guess we're just bitter old geeks, Chris. I've been doing the same thing
for years for my audio boxes. Base XP install (with legit SN, I'm lucky and
Yale's site license covers my home machines), patch, stop a few services
that annoy me. Then I install Sun Virtualbox and put all of my web browsing
junk on it. Then I install my bazillions of apps and sample libraries. Turn
on the XP firewall and voila, I have a nice audio box.
What's N-lite?
TCB
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI Thad,
>
>Yep a normal Windows install disk and N-lite and you can create the same
>thing.
>This way you have an custom installer for XP with everything taken out
>y7ou don't think is needed.
>
>Also someone could just tweak their xp computer with some of the well
>documented tweaks and image.
>This will work well if they don't change hard ware often.
>
>Best of all these to options are total legit and don't support piracy. :)
>
>Chris
>
>
>
>
>TCB wrote:
>> If you install a boxed copy of XP and patch it, you're not all that far
from
>> this. You might have to do a bit to stop some services from starting,
but
>> it's only a few. I don't about the handle and thread counts mentioned
re:
>> MicroXP
>>
>> However, with MicroXP you lose LAN networking, user accounts (I know what
>> they're doing to do that, don't think it's a good idea), remote desktop,
>> automatic updates (you want to run an unpatched XP machine? You sure?),
and
>> a bunch of other stuff. I don't think that's a good trade.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "Mike Bloomer" <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Micro XP is a hacked stripped down version of XP.It's apparently popular
>>>
>> with
>>
>>> gamers... A friend at work got a hold of a copy and I had a chance to
try
>>> it.I work at a computer repair shop and the idea behind trying it was
to
>>> make some of the older P3s usable again. It works! It takes about 10
minutes
>>> to do a complete install. When the system is booted up it uses 36 meg
of
>>> memory and runs 15 processes! Nearly everything has been stripped from
the
>>> OS. There is no local networking, no scheduling, and no internet explorer.
>>> It will run Firefox though so internet is possible.Most XP programs will
>>> run on it.
>>> Just for giggles I loaded it on a 900MHz P3 with 256mb ram. Then I installed
>>> Cubase LE and loaded in 10 stereo tracks of audio and 15 plugins. It
ran
>>> it perfectly and wasn't bogged down at all! So I added 10 more stereo
tracks
>>> and it ran those.
>>> I tried it on my Paris box at home as a dual boot and so far so good.
It
>>> seems to be immune to some of Paris's bugs.
>>> If you decide to try it get version .08 not version .06 which is more
commonly
>>> available. I'm still testing I'll do a more complete synopsis when I'm
finished....
>>> MB
>>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Micro Xp [message #99451 is a reply to message #99442] |
Sun, 06 July 2008 16:53 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Senior Member |
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I still want IPC share access to the machines on my home network, audio or
otherwise. And RDP comes in handy as well.
As far as P2s and P3s, that's why the good lord gave us Debian and Ubuntu.
If you want a REALLY lightweight OS install, look at some of the linux distros
designed for flash drives. THOSE guys are freaking studs.
TCB
tubeguru <tubeguru2006@gmail.net> wrote:
> That's true, and on a really powerful computer you might not gain that
>much in terms of resources. I did notice a definite increase in speed
>snd smoothness and Paris seems a bit less buggy. Whether it actually is
>I will find out after more exhaustive testing. I don't really miss LAN I
>never used it on my DAW, and my DAW never goes on the internet. The
>remote services are also pretty useless on a DAW. I think the best of
>both worlds would be separate installations on separate partitions.
>Where it really seems to shine is in obsolete boxes like P2s and P3s...
>MB
>TCB wrote:
>> If you install a boxed copy of XP and patch it, you're not all that far
from
>> this. You might have to do a bit to stop some services from starting,
but
>> it's only a few. I don't about the handle and thread counts mentioned
re:
>> MicroXP
>>
>> However, with MicroXP you lose LAN networking, user accounts (I know what
>> they're doing to do that, don't think it's a good idea), remote desktop,
>> automatic updates (you want to run an unpatched XP machine? You sure?),
and
>> a bunch of other stuff. I don't think that's a good trade.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "Mike Bloomer" <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Micro XP is a hacked stripped down version of XP.It's apparently popular
>> with
>>> gamers... A friend at work got a hold of a copy and I had a chance to
try
>>> it.I work at a computer repair shop and the idea behind trying it was
to
>>> make some of the older P3s usable again. It works! It takes about 10
minutes
>>> to do a complete install. When the system is booted up it uses 36 meg
of
>>> memory and runs 15 processes! Nearly everything has been stripped from
the
>>> OS. There is no local networking, no scheduling, and no internet explorer.
>>> It will run Firefox though so internet is possible.Most XP programs will
>>> run on it.
>>> Just for giggles I loaded it on a 900MHz P3 with 256mb ram. Then I installed
>>> Cubase LE and loaded in 10 stereo tracks of audio and 15 plugins. It
ran
>>> it perfectly and wasn't bogged down at all! So I added 10 more stereo
tracks
>>> and it ran those.
>>> I tried it on my Paris box at home as a dual boot and so far so good.
It
>>> seems to be immune to some of Paris's bugs.
>>> If you decide to try it get version .08 not version .06 which is more
commonly
>>> available. I'm still testing I'll do a more complete synopsis when I'm
finished....
>>> MB
>>
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| Re: Micro Xp [message #99453 is a reply to message #99450] |
Sun, 06 July 2008 19:52 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Senior Member |
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XP services stripper. I bought the 98lite version back 'in the day'.. it
worked pretty well.
AA
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:48715a75$1@linux...
>
> I guess we're just bitter old geeks, Chris. I've been doing the same thing
> for years for my audio boxes. Base XP install (with legit SN, I'm lucky
> and
> Yale's site license covers my home machines), patch, stop a few services
> that annoy me. Then I install Sun Virtualbox and put all of my web
> browsing
> junk on it. Then I install my bazillions of apps and sample libraries.
> Turn
> on the XP firewall and voila, I have a nice audio box.
>
> What's N-lite?
>
> TCB
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>HI Thad,
>>
>>Yep a normal Windows install disk and N-lite and you can create the same
>
>>thing.
>>This way you have an custom installer for XP with everything taken out
>>y7ou don't think is needed.
>>
>>Also someone could just tweak their xp computer with some of the well
>>documented tweaks and image.
>>This will work well if they don't change hard ware often.
>>
>>Best of all these to options are total legit and don't support piracy. :)
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>TCB wrote:
>>> If you install a boxed copy of XP and patch it, you're not all that far
> from
>>> this. You might have to do a bit to stop some services from starting,
> but
>>> it's only a few. I don't about the handle and thread counts mentioned
> re:
>>> MicroXP
>>>
>>> However, with MicroXP you lose LAN networking, user accounts (I know
>>> what
>>> they're doing to do that, don't think it's a good idea), remote desktop,
>>> automatic updates (you want to run an unpatched XP machine? You sure?),
> and
>>> a bunch of other stuff. I don't think that's a good trade.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "Mike Bloomer" <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Micro XP is a hacked stripped down version of XP.It's apparently
>>>> popular
>>>>
>>> with
>>>
>>>> gamers... A friend at work got a hold of a copy and I had a chance to
> try
>>>> it.I work at a computer repair shop and the idea behind trying it was
> to
>>>> make some of the older P3s usable again. It works! It takes about 10
> minutes
>>>> to do a complete install. When the system is booted up it uses 36 meg
> of
>>>> memory and runs 15 processes! Nearly everything has been stripped from
> the
>>>> OS. There is no local networking, no scheduling, and no internet
>>>> explorer.
>>>> It will run Firefox though so internet is possible.Most XP programs
>>>> will
>>>> run on it.
>>>> Just for giggles I loaded it on a 900MHz P3 with 256mb ram. Then I
>>>> installed
>>>> Cubase LE and loaded in 10 stereo tracks of audio and 15 plugins. It
> ran
>>>> it perfectly and wasn't bogged down at all! So I added 10 more stereo
> tracks
>>>> and it ran those.
>>>> I tried it on my Paris box at home as a dual boot and so far so good.
> It
>>>> seems to be immune to some of Paris's bugs.
>>>> If you decide to try it get version .08 not version .06 which is more
> commonly
>>>> available. I'm still testing I'll do a more complete synopsis when I'm
> finished....
>>>> MB
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Chris Ludwig
>>ADK
>>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>>(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Micro Xp [message #99455 is a reply to message #99450] |
Sun, 06 July 2008 22:04 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Senior Member |
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Hi Thad,
N-lite is a program for making a custom xp install disk. It is basically
an advanced version of a pre-installation Windows configuration.
It lets you add and remove components, slipstream drivers and service
packs, pre-install some oem software, etc.
You can then make a custom XP or Vista installer that lets you save a
llot of time if you need to do a fresh OS install.
I mainly use it at work to slip stream Raid and network drivers. Way
easier than doing it with Microsoft's tools. I can't do to exotic of a
setting for our PCs because some will break the Reseal function if they
are disabled on the installer CD.
At home I add and pre-configure a it a bunch more sense I don't have to
worry about the reseal process.
http://www.nliteos.com/index.html
Chris
TCB wrote:
> I guess we're just bitter old geeks, Chris. I've been doing the same thing
> for years for my audio boxes. Base XP install (with legit SN, I'm lucky and
> Yale's site license covers my home machines), patch, stop a few services
> that annoy me. Then I install Sun Virtualbox and put all of my web browsing
> junk on it. Then I install my bazillions of apps and sample libraries. Turn
> on the XP firewall and voila, I have a nice audio box.
>
> What's N-lite?
>
> TCB
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>> HI Thad,
>>
>> Yep a normal Windows install disk and N-lite and you can create the same
>>
>
>
>> thing.
>> This way you have an custom installer for XP with everything taken out
>> y7ou don't think is needed.
>>
>> Also someone could just tweak their xp computer with some of the well
>> documented tweaks and image.
>> This will work well if they don't change hard ware often.
>>
>> Best of all these to options are total legit and don't support piracy. :)
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> TCB wrote:
>>
>>> If you install a boxed copy of XP and patch it, you're not all that far
>>>
> from
>
>>> this. You might have to do a bit to stop some services from starting,
>>>
> but
>
>>> it's only a few. I don't about the handle and thread counts mentioned
>>>
> re:
>
>>> MicroXP
>>>
>>> However, with MicroXP you lose LAN networking, user accounts (I know what
>>> they're doing to do that, don't think it's a good idea), remote desktop,
>>> automatic updates (you want to run an unpatched XP machine? You sure?),
>>>
> and
>
>>> a bunch of other stuff. I don't think that's a good trade.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "Mike Bloomer" <tubeguru2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Micro XP is a hacked stripped down version of XP.It's apparently popular
>>>>
>>>>
>>> with
>>>
>>>
>>>> gamers... A friend at work got a hold of a copy and I had a chance to
>>>>
> try
>
>>>> it.I work at a computer repair shop and the idea behind trying it was
>>>>
> to
>
>>>> make some of the older P3s usable again. It works! It takes about 10
>>>>
> minutes
>
>>>> to do a complete install. When the system is booted up it uses 36 meg
>>>>
> of
>
>>>> memory and runs 15 processes! Nearly everything has been stripped from
>>>>
> the
>
>>>> OS. There is no local networking, no scheduling, and no internet explorer.
>>>> It will run Firefox though so internet is possible.Most XP programs will
>>>> run on it.
>>>> Just for giggles I loaded it on a 900MHz P3 with 256mb ram. Then I installed
>>>> Cubase LE and loaded in 10 stereo tracks of audio and 15 plugins. It
>>>>
> ran
>
>>>> it perfectly and wasn't bogged down at all! So I added 10 more stereo
>>>>
> tracks
>
>>>> and it ran those.
>>>> I tried it on my Paris box at home as a dual boot and so far so good.
>>>>
> It
>
>>>> seems to be immune to some of Paris's bugs.
>>>> If you decide to try it get version .08 not version .06 which is more
>>>>
> commonly
>
>>>> available. I'm still testing I'll do a more complete synopsis when I'm
>>>>
> finished....
>
>>>> MB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>> ADK
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> (859) 635-5762
>>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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