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Tom Bruhl
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I put all auxes on pre post and I put all faders down to zero.
5. I put all drumtracks in the stereo field i.e Overheads L I open only aux1
and close aux2, the opposite for overhead R, the volume now is on auxe's
knob.
For kick I have both aux1 and aux 2 engaged with same volume for both
etc....
6 I can leave the return of the drumtracks on auxe's returns but I use
instead wire out #0 for aux 1 and wire out #1 for aux 2
7. Then I go to two free audio tracks and put there wire in #0 and #1
accordingly.
8. I pan them hardwired left and right. I can take it further with eq or
whatever from there....
9. I now put a stereo instance EDS compressor compressor on the leftmost
track with the following settings:
Gentle Crash algorithm with 1:75 setting -81.4 threshold and 17.5 db output.
So I have a compressed drummix stereo with EDS compressor using one stereo
instance of EDS comp.
9. You can write down the compressed stereo track and bring it in along with
unprocessed drumtracks ,slide it until it sounds right nad voila.
I really like the eds compressor on gentle crush setting , I also favour the
Opto.
Cheers,
DimitriosThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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Dear Tom and fellow Parisiand I have modified my original post with =
Tom's right suggestion.
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
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Dimitrios,
I wonder if your stereo compressor is 'really' stereo in
the way it triggers. I'd worry for instance that the left=20
could trigger because of a tom strike but the right would not.
Wouldn't it be easier to run a stereo EDS comp in aux 1,
send your drum mix to it how you like using aux sends and=20
route the output of aux 1 via external to two channels by
patching aux 1 to spdif in and out and then to two channels? =20
Print them to disk and compensate for latency that there?
1ms does it for me at that point assuming no look ahead. =20
Don't forget the spdif cable connected looping from in to out=20
on the Mec.
Seems like the easiest way using EDS effects. Of course you
can also throw in any other VST effects once the tracks have been
printed. As long as your sure of the drum mix you can do this
as your last step. Kinda backwards but we use Paris don't we?
Gyro Gearloose
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:4310906a@linux...
I am sure there are some of you that have tried or still use the =
following
method.
How to group stereo drumtracks in Paris put them a stereo compressor =
just
using two instances of EDS compressor.
1.I put on aux1 eds compressor with the following settings:
Gentle Crash algorithm with 1:75 setting -81.4 threshold and 17.5 db =
output.
2. I do the same on aux2 putting another instance of same =
compressor.
3.I open aux1 and aux 2 on all drumtracks, here I have one kick, two =
snares
(top/bottom) two overheads (L and R) one ride and three toms
.
4. Now I put all auxes on pre post and I put all faders down to =
zero.
5. I put all drumtracks in the stereo field i.e Overheads L I open =
only aux1
and close aux2, the opposite for overhead R, the volume now is on =
auxe's
knob.
For kick I have both aux1 and aux 2 engaged with same volume for =
both
etc....
6 I can leave the return of the drumtracks on auxe's returns but I =
use
instead wire out #0 for aux 1 and wire out #1 for aux 2
7. Then I go to two free audio tracks and put there wire in #0 and =
#1
accordingly.
8. I pan them hardwired left and right. I can take it further with =
eq or
whatever from there....
So I have a compressed drummix stereo with EDS compressor using two
instances of EDS comp.
9. You can write down the compressed stereo track and bring it in =
along with
unprocessed drumtracks ,slide it until it sounds right nad voila.
I really like the eds compressor on gentle crush setting , I also =
favour the
Opto.
Cheers,
Dimitrios
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Tom and fellow Parisiand I have =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wonder if your stereo compressor is =
'really'=20
stereo in</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the way it triggers. I'd worry =
for instance=20
that the left </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>could trigger </FONT><FONT =
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size=3D2>because of a tom strike but the right would not.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wouldn't it be easier to run a stereo =
EDS comp in=20
aux 1,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>send your drum mix to it how you like =
using aux=20
sends and </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>route the output </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>of aux 1 via external to two channels by</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>patching aux 1 to spdif in and out =
and then to=20
two channels? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Print them to disk and </FONT><FONT =
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size=3D2>compensate </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>for latency =
that=20
there?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1ms does it for me at that point =
assuming no look=20
ahead. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Don't forget the spdif cable =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>connected looping from in to out </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>on the Mec.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Seems like the easiest way =
using EDS=20
effects. Of course you</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>can also throw in any other VST =
effects once the=20
tracks have been</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>printed. As long as your sure =
of the drum=20
mix you can do this</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>as your last step. Kinda =
backwards but we=20
use Paris don't we?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gyro Gearloose</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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Sat, 27 August 2005 11:31 |
Dimitrios
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with same volume for both<BR>etc....<BR><BR>6 I can leave the return =
of the=20
drumtracks on auxe's returns but I use<BR>instead wire out #0 for =
aux 1 and=20
wire out #1 for aux 2<BR><BR>7. Then I go to two free audio tracks =
and put=20
there wire in #0 and #1<BR>accordingly.<BR><BR>8. I pan them =
hardwired left=20
and right. I can take it further with eq or<BR>whatever from=20
there....<BR><BR>So I have a compressed drummix stereo with EDS =
compressor=20
using two<BR>instances of EDS comp.<BR><BR>9. You can write down the =
compressed stereo track and bring it in along with<BR>unprocessed =
drumtracks=20
,slide it until it sounds right nad voila.<BR><BR>I really like the =
eds=20
compressor on gentle crush setting , I also favour=20
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the<BR>Opto.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Dimitrios<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE ></BLOCKQUOTE=
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------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C5AB4E.C1337160--Thanks for the post DJ. I'm considering buying a tee shirt. I too have never
had a problem reconciling evolution and ID. Gosh, we're such silly critters.
I think that JC would probably have a good hoot over the site.
MR
Carpenters are cool.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Though I have personally never had a problem with reconciling the theory
of
>evolution with the idea that there is a creative universal force/diety/God,
>I also don't think it's really worth a lot of hassle trying to convince
>others that they should think as I do.
>
>However, now I think I've found another piece of the puzzle.
>
>http://www.venganza.org/
>
>.........and I have been convinced for quite a while that the dwindling
>number pirates has had a direct bearing on something or another. It's nice
>that this has finally been definitively pinned down.
>
>It's all starting to make some sense now. Thanks goodness for the internet.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>many other titles with the same but correct (depending on you personal
bent) message. all in all...my kind of thought...if i'm
not...err...mistaken...oh crap, there goes that argument...
never mind...
On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:57:47 -0600, "DJ"
<animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Though I have personally never had a problem with reconciling the theory of
>evolution with the idea that there is a creative universal force/diety/God,
>I also don't think it's really worth a lot of hassle trying to convince
>others that they should think as I do.
>
>However, now I think I've found another piece of the puzzle.
>
>http://www.venganza.org/
>
>.........and I have been convinced for quite a while that the dwindling
>number pirates has had a direct bearing on something or another. It's nice
>that this has finally been definitively pinned down.
>
>It's all starting to make some sense now. Thanks goodness for the internet.
>
>
>
>
>
>What's hilarious, though unintentional, is that even the FSM theory
may make more sense than Darwinism. At least on the large
scale. Darwin certainly works well on the small scale.
And perhaps, with Darwin becoming less authoritative, at least on
the scale of origins of life, something even *more* elegant than the
mighty FSM might appear! heresy!
There's lots of religions out there. Some of them even pretend
to be science.
Just a thought.
DC
Consider the idea that having a foundational belief that there can
be no designer, is indeed, a faith of sorts...
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Though I have personally never had a problem with reconciling the theory
of
>evolution with the idea that there is a creative universal force/diety/God,
>I also don't think it's really worth a lot of hassle trying to convince
>others that they should think as I do.
>
>However, now I think I've found another piece of the puzzle.
>
>http://www.venganza.org/
>
>.........and I have been convinced for quite a while that the dwindling
>number pirates has had a direct bearing on something or another. It's nice
>that this has finally been definitively pinned down.
>
>It's all starting to make some sense now. Thanks goodness for the internet.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>Consider the idea that having a foundational belief that there can
>be no designer, is indeed, a faith of sorts...
Back in the 70's I attended a series of debates between Madalyn Murray
O'Hair and number of Austin pastors onthe University of Texas campus. Bottom
line was that she came off looking like a total religious zealot with
atheism being her particular religion.
I sort of walked away from there shaking my head and feeling sorry for this
incredibly well educated and articulate person who had unwittingly created a
"theism* from the void.
"DC" <dc@apesrus.org> wrote in message news:4310d8f5$1@linux...
>
> What's hilarious, though unintentional, is that even the FSM theory
> may make more sense than Darwinism. At least on the large
> scale. Darwin certainly works well on the small scale.
>
> And perhaps, with Darwin becoming less authoritative, at least on
> the scale of origins of life, something even *more* elegant than the
> mighty FSM might appear! heresy!
>
> There's lots of religions out there. Some of them even pretend
> to be science.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> DC
>
> Consider the idea that having a foundational belief that there can
> be no designer, is indeed, a faith of sorts...
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >Though I have personally never had a problem with reconciling the theory
> of
> >evolution with the idea that there is a creative universal
force/diety/God,
> >I also don't think it's really worth a lot of hassle trying to convince
> >others that they should think as I do.
> >
> >However, now I think I've found another piece of the puzzle.
> >
> >http://www.venganza.org/
> >
> >.........and I have been convinced for quite a while that the dwindling
> >number pirates has had a direct bearing on something or another. It's
nice
> >that this has finally been definitively pinned down.
> >
> >It's all starting to make some sense now. Thanks goodness for the
internet.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>Thanks Martin,
It was a pleasure doing business with you (and took the worry about
getting from over seas) and dont worry it will be kept
safe and snug and will definitely be put to good use
Till we meet again
Cheers Craig
www.cravemusicstudios.com
"Fred Bloggs" <no@nono.com> wrote in message news:430dc0a1$1@linux...
>
> Another one bites the dust!
>
> : (
>
> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >That's it...It's gone..
> >
> >Graig West of Crave Music studios made me an offer I couldn't refuse.
> >
> >Makes sense really.
> >
> >I haven't used it in well over a year, and when I did, I wasn't really
using
>
> >it's full potential, only recording Voice overs and mixing to picture.
> >
> >It's now gone to a new loving home, where hopefully it's full potential
> will
> >be unleashed
> >Good luck with it Craig, put it to good use.
> >
> >I'll still be here though, checking in as often as before, but only as an
>
> >observer, not user
> >--
> >Martin Harrington
> >www.lendanear-sound.com
> >
> >Stumbled onto it while seeing what my old friend, John Hampton (eng @
Ardent, Memphis) was up to these days.
www.superaudiocenter.com
DubyaYes, and of course with the self as deity..
She was a good friend of my uncle. I have several atheist uncles.
Growing up required me to be able to stand being challenged, and
hard, from about the age of 12, if I deviated from the atheist
orthodoxy. Which of course, I did.
The natural results of her choices and beliefs came true in her
own life.
DC
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>Consider the idea that having a foundational belief that there can
>>be no designer, is indeed, a faith of sorts...
>
>Back in the 70's I attended a series of debates between Madalyn Murray
>O'Hair and number of Austin pastors onthe University of Texas campus. Bottom
>line was that she came off looking like a total religious zealot with
>atheism being her particular religion.
>
>I sort of walked away from there shaking my head and feeling sorry for this
>incredibly well educated and articulate person who had unwittingly created
a
>"theism* from the void.
>
>
>
>
>"DC" <dc@apesrus.org> wrote in message news:4310d8f5$1@linux...
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