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| quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96365] |
Wed, 27 February 2008 22:52  |
Aaron Allen
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Who all is running Quad here?
I just loaded my new pc up with WinXP, SP1. From BIOS boot/disk insert to
Windows installed welcome screen took 16 minutes. Can a get a Fresh Prince
ShaLamm! Updates and whatnot's coming (it'll be on the net), but I'm looking
for what to expect in the way of latency, plugs and track counts. SATA 250GB
system and 400GB data, 2 GB RAM. This machine will be my 'everyday' box,
streaming movies, music and handling most of my song building. I'll mix
elsewhere, but this little dude is the workhorse for building/virtual synths
and schlepping video render stuff when I have time for that.
Has anyone noted a major change from single or dual core tech to Quad core
in regards to latency in native rigs?
Any great audio or video rendering benchmarks out there to try? Keep in
mind, I'm using onboard Intel Graphics 8 (yuk) MB shared, so I'm not trying
to test the video card, only rendering capability.
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96374 is a reply to message #96365] |
Thu, 28 February 2008 07:55  |
Chris Ludwig
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Hi Aaron,
If you want to get the most out of it then these will help.
Run SP2 especially if you gonna be using for internet stuff.
Don't install IE7 yuck!! In fact uninstall fricking IE and Out look and
install fire fox and thunder bird. But don't do that until you use IE6
to download em. :)
You will probably need to install dot net 1 and 2 but only need to
install 3 if you have any vista machine in your network.
These hot fixes are for multi-core Intel cpus.
Microsoft hot fix:
KB896256
Microsoft hot fix:
KB936357
Make sure you are using the newest BIOS and latest drivers for the
motherboard, especially the on board video.
Which on board video card chip does your motherboard have? 8 meg seems
way too low. Does it have hardwired memory and then shared past that?
Chris
Aaron Allen wrote:
> Who all is running Quad here?
>
> I just loaded my new pc up with WinXP, SP1. From BIOS boot/disk insert to
> Windows installed welcome screen took 16 minutes. Can a get a Fresh Prince
> ShaLamm! Updates and whatnot's coming (it'll be on the net), but I'm looking
> for what to expect in the way of latency, plugs and track counts. SATA 250GB
> system and 400GB data, 2 GB RAM. This machine will be my 'everyday' box,
> streaming movies, music and handling most of my song building. I'll mix
> elsewhere, but this little dude is the workhorse for building/virtual synths
> and schlepping video render stuff when I have time for that.
>
> Has anyone noted a major change from single or dual core tech to Quad core
> in regards to latency in native rigs?
> Any great audio or video rendering benchmarks out there to try? Keep in
> mind, I'm using onboard Intel Graphics 8 (yuk) MB shared, so I'm not trying
> to test the video card, only rendering capability.
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96376 is a reply to message #96374] |
Thu, 28 February 2008 08:32 |
EK Sound
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Along this topic... what's the biggest bang for the buck right now for
MB and Chip?? Our Nuendo machine is in need of an upgrade....
Thanks,
David.
Chris Ludwig wrote:
> Hi Aaron,
>
> If you want to get the most out of it then these will help.
>
> Run SP2 especially if you gonna be using for internet stuff.
> Don't install IE7 yuck!! In fact uninstall fricking IE and Out look and
> install fire fox and thunder bird. But don't do that until you use IE6
> to download em. :)
> You will probably need to install dot net 1 and 2 but only need to
> install 3 if you have any vista machine in your network.
>
> These hot fixes are for multi-core Intel cpus.
>
> Microsoft hot fix:
> KB896256
>
> Microsoft hot fix:
> KB936357
>
>
> Make sure you are using the newest BIOS and latest drivers for the
> motherboard, especially the on board video.
>
> Which on board video card chip does your motherboard have? 8 meg seems
> way too low. Does it have hardwired memory and then shared past that?
>
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> Aaron Allen wrote:
>
>> Who all is running Quad here?
>>
>> I just loaded my new pc up with WinXP, SP1. From BIOS boot/disk insert
>> to Windows installed welcome screen took 16 minutes. Can a get a Fresh
>> Prince ShaLamm! Updates and whatnot's coming (it'll be on the net),
>> but I'm looking for what to expect in the way of latency, plugs and
>> track counts. SATA 250GB system and 400GB data, 2 GB RAM. This machine
>> will be my 'everyday' box, streaming movies, music and handling most
>> of my song building. I'll mix elsewhere, but this little dude is the
>> workhorse for building/virtual synths and schlepping video render
>> stuff when I have time for that.
>>
>> Has anyone noted a major change from single or dual core tech to Quad
>> core in regards to latency in native rigs?
>> Any great audio or video rendering benchmarks out there to try? Keep
>> in mind, I'm using onboard Intel Graphics 8 (yuk) MB shared, so I'm
>> not trying to test the video card, only rendering capability.
>>
>>
>>
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96378 is a reply to message #96376] |
Thu, 28 February 2008 08:40 |
Dedric Terry
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David - Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield with a socket 975 Intel board.
I have an Asus P5W DH Deluxe board that's a good board (esp. for multiple
PCI and PCIe slots.
(Gigabyte may be another good choice).
I heard the Core 2 Quads were on sale for as low as $199 recently - down to
$250 on newegg.com.
"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:47c6e4b2@linux...
> Along this topic... what's the biggest bang for the buck right now for MB
> and Chip?? Our Nuendo machine is in need of an upgrade....
>
> Thanks,
>
> David.
>
> Chris Ludwig wrote:
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> If you want to get the most out of it then these will help.
>>
>> Run SP2 especially if you gonna be using for internet stuff.
>> Don't install IE7 yuck!! In fact uninstall fricking IE and Out look and
>> install fire fox and thunder bird. But don't do that until you use IE6 to
>> download em. :)
>> You will probably need to install dot net 1 and 2 but only need to
>> install 3 if you have any vista machine in your network.
>>
>> These hot fixes are for multi-core Intel cpus.
>>
>> Microsoft hot fix:
>> KB896256
>>
>> Microsoft hot fix:
>> KB936357
>>
>>
>> Make sure you are using the newest BIOS and latest drivers for the
>> motherboard, especially the on board video.
>>
>> Which on board video card chip does your motherboard have? 8 meg seems
>> way too low. Does it have hardwired memory and then shared past that?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>
>>> Who all is running Quad here?
>>>
>>> I just loaded my new pc up with WinXP, SP1. From BIOS boot/disk insert
>>> to Windows installed welcome screen took 16 minutes. Can a get a Fresh
>>> Prince ShaLamm! Updates and whatnot's coming (it'll be on the net), but
>>> I'm looking for what to expect in the way of latency, plugs and track
>>> counts. SATA 250GB system and 400GB data, 2 GB RAM. This machine will be
>>> my 'everyday' box, streaming movies, music and handling most of my song
>>> building. I'll mix elsewhere, but this little dude is the workhorse for
>>> building/virtual synths and schlepping video render stuff when I have
>>> time for that.
>>>
>>> Has anyone noted a major change from single or dual core tech to Quad
>>> core in regards to latency in native rigs?
>>> Any great audio or video rendering benchmarks out there to try? Keep in
>>> mind, I'm using onboard Intel Graphics 8 (yuk) MB shared, so I'm not
>>> trying to test the video card, only rendering capability.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96396 is a reply to message #96374] |
Thu, 28 February 2008 19:20 |
Aaron Allen
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.....
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:47c6dc15@linux...
> Hi Aaron,
>
> If you want to get the most out of it then these will help.
>
> Run SP2 especially if you gonna be using for internet stuff.
> Don't install IE7 yuck!! In fact uninstall fricking IE and Out look and
> install fire fox and thunder bird. But don't do that until you use IE6 to
> download em. :)
> You will probably need to install dot net 1 and 2 but only need to install
> 3 if you have any vista machine in your network.
>
> These hot fixes are for multi-core Intel cpus.
>
> Microsoft hot fix:
> KB896256
>
> Microsoft hot fix:
> KB936357
>
>
Very cool. Since I will use the box for IT, net surfing, audio and video I
just loaded everything from MS Updates. The box still idles at (gulp) 0% CPU
usage and about 300~350 MB of Ram usage. I'll check that these two KB fixes
were on that list - thank you for the great tip there
> Make sure you are using the newest BIOS and latest drivers for the
> motherboard, especially the on board video.
Yes, it has the newest revision on it.
>
> Which on board video card chip does your motherboard have? 8 meg seems way
> too low. Does it have hardwired memory and then shared past that?
>
I think you hit it on the head. it has two numbers listed in the BIOS, one
is 8 MB (this must be the Intel chip onboard memory) and another selectable
option at 128 and 256 MB I believe it was, that is the 'shared' section....
I'll double check that. Vid res on the dual outs will hit 1280 x 1024 so
far.. haven't pushed anything past that as it's auto detecting my 19"
screens.
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> Aaron Allen wrote:
>> Who all is running Quad here?
>>
>> I just loaded my new pc up with WinXP, SP1. From BIOS boot/disk insert to
>> Windows installed welcome screen took 16 minutes. Can a get a Fresh
>> Prince ShaLamm! Updates and whatnot's coming (it'll be on the net), but
>> I'm looking for what to expect in the way of latency, plugs and track
>> counts. SATA 250GB system and 400GB data, 2 GB RAM. This machine will be
>> my 'everyday' box, streaming movies, music and handling most of my song
>> building. I'll mix elsewhere, but this little dude is the workhorse for
>> building/virtual synths and schlepping video render stuff when I have
>> time for that.
>>
>> Has anyone noted a major change from single or dual core tech to Quad
>> core in regards to latency in native rigs?
>> Any great audio or video rendering benchmarks out there to try? Keep in
>> mind, I'm using onboard Intel Graphics 8 (yuk) MB shared, so I'm not
>> trying to test the video card, only rendering capability.
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
>
> ADK Pro Audio
> (859) 635-5762
> www.adkproaudio.com
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96397 is a reply to message #96376] |
Thu, 28 February 2008 19:27 |
Aaron Allen
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well, I took a different approach than I usually would and bought a mini
chassis Shuttle - the SG31-G2. PCi-E and PCi slot, one of each. I'll use a
FW audio card (TI chipset, 2 ports!) and the video is built in. I've seen
the Q6600 for about $250 in several places and I'm completely impressed so
far with that performance. I've been spanking it like a cheap rented donkey
all day, multi tasking it's little butt off and I've managed to push it up
to 50% CPU so far (stuff like downloading MS updates, installing Anti
Spyware and doing a A/V scan while surfing the web and moving files across a
network all at the same time). I'm not sure how Nuendo's multi core support
is, so I'm not sure what kind of bump you'll see though.
If it helps, the whole thing inclusive of RAM, CPU, bare bones, 2 HDDs and
DVD-9 lightscribe drive ran me right about $700 US. I overpaid on the CPU by
about $50 but I wanted it from a local vendor and I wanted it now. I'd
supposed this super quiet little box would work well with a Magma PCI-e, but
I couldn't verify that - if that's how your Nuendo is indeed set up.
That help any?
AA
"EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:47c6e4b2@linux...
> Along this topic... what's the biggest bang for the buck right now for MB
> and Chip?? Our Nuendo machine is in need of an upgrade....
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96401 is a reply to message #96378] |
Thu, 28 February 2008 21:34 |
Aaron Allen
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I'm pretty sure mine's a LGA775 here, so I wanted to check that I may have
missed something or it's a typo?
- Always had good luck with Asus and Gigabyte either one FWIW.
AA
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:47c6e72a@linux...
> David - Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield with a socket 975 Intel board.
> I have an Asus P5W DH Deluxe board that's a good board (esp. for multiple
> PCI and PCIe slots.
> (Gigabyte may be another good choice).
>
> I heard the Core 2 Quads were on sale for as low as $199 recently - down
> to $250 on newegg.com.
>
>
> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:47c6e4b2@linux...
>> Along this topic... what's the biggest bang for the buck right now for MB
>> and Chip?? Our Nuendo machine is in need of an upgrade....
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Chris Ludwig wrote:
>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>
>>> If you want to get the most out of it then these will help.
>>>
>>> Run SP2 especially if you gonna be using for internet stuff.
>>> Don't install IE7 yuck!! In fact uninstall fricking IE and Out look and
>>> install fire fox and thunder bird. But don't do that until you use IE6
>>> to download em. :)
>>> You will probably need to install dot net 1 and 2 but only need to
>>> install 3 if you have any vista machine in your network.
>>>
>>> These hot fixes are for multi-core Intel cpus.
>>>
>>> Microsoft hot fix:
>>> KB896256
>>>
>>> Microsoft hot fix:
>>> KB936357
>>>
>>>
>>> Make sure you are using the newest BIOS and latest drivers for the
>>> motherboard, especially the on board video.
>>>
>>> Which on board video card chip does your motherboard have? 8 meg seems
>>> way too low. Does it have hardwired memory and then shared past that?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Who all is running Quad here?
>>>>
>>>> I just loaded my new pc up with WinXP, SP1. From BIOS boot/disk insert
>>>> to Windows installed welcome screen took 16 minutes. Can a get a Fresh
>>>> Prince ShaLamm! Updates and whatnot's coming (it'll be on the net), but
>>>> I'm looking for what to expect in the way of latency, plugs and track
>>>> counts. SATA 250GB system and 400GB data, 2 GB RAM. This machine will
>>>> be my 'everyday' box, streaming movies, music and handling most of my
>>>> song building. I'll mix elsewhere, but this little dude is the
>>>> workhorse for building/virtual synths and schlepping video render stuff
>>>> when I have time for that.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone noted a major change from single or dual core tech to Quad
>>>> core in regards to latency in native rigs?
>>>> Any great audio or video rendering benchmarks out there to try? Keep in
>>>> mind, I'm using onboard Intel Graphics 8 (yuk) MB shared, so I'm not
>>>> trying to test the video card, only rendering capability.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96402 is a reply to message #96401] |
Thu, 28 February 2008 22:20 |
Dedric Terry
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Yikes, yep typo on my part - sorry about that: it is LGA775, not 975.
On 2/28/08 10:34 PM, in article 47c79c87@linux, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
> I'm pretty sure mine's a LGA775 here, so I wanted to check that I may have
> missed something or it's a typo?
> - Always had good luck with Asus and Gigabyte either one FWIW.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:47c6e72a@linux...
>> David - Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield with a socket 975 Intel board.
>> I have an Asus P5W DH Deluxe board that's a good board (esp. for multiple
>> PCI and PCIe slots.
>> (Gigabyte may be another good choice).
>>
>> I heard the Core 2 Quads were on sale for as low as $199 recently - down
>> to $250 on newegg.com.
>>
>>
>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:47c6e4b2@linux...
>>> Along this topic... what's the biggest bang for the buck right now for MB
>>> and Chip?? Our Nuendo machine is in need of an upgrade....
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> Chris Ludwig wrote:
>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>
>>>> If you want to get the most out of it then these will help.
>>>>
>>>> Run SP2 especially if you gonna be using for internet stuff.
>>>> Don't install IE7 yuck!! In fact uninstall fricking IE and Out look and
>>>> install fire fox and thunder bird. But don't do that until you use IE6
>>>> to download em. :)
>>>> You will probably need to install dot net 1 and 2 but only need to
>>>> install 3 if you have any vista machine in your network.
>>>>
>>>> These hot fixes are for multi-core Intel cpus.
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft hot fix:
>>>> KB896256
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft hot fix:
>>>> KB936357
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Make sure you are using the newest BIOS and latest drivers for the
>>>> motherboard, especially the on board video.
>>>>
>>>> Which on board video card chip does your motherboard have? 8 meg seems
>>>> way too low. Does it have hardwired memory and then shared past that?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Who all is running Quad here?
>>>>>
>>>>> I just loaded my new pc up with WinXP, SP1. From BIOS boot/disk insert
>>>>> to Windows installed welcome screen took 16 minutes. Can a get a Fresh
>>>>> Prince ShaLamm! Updates and whatnot's coming (it'll be on the net), but
>>>>> I'm looking for what to expect in the way of latency, plugs and track
>>>>> counts. SATA 250GB system and 400GB data, 2 GB RAM. This machine will
>>>>> be my 'everyday' box, streaming movies, music and handling most of my
>>>>> song building. I'll mix elsewhere, but this little dude is the
>>>>> workhorse for building/virtual synths and schlepping video render stuff
>>>>> when I have time for that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone noted a major change from single or dual core tech to Quad
>>>>> core in regards to latency in native rigs?
>>>>> Any great audio or video rendering benchmarks out there to try? Keep in
>>>>> mind, I'm using onboard Intel Graphics 8 (yuk) MB shared, so I'm not
>>>>> trying to test the video card, only rendering capability.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96409 is a reply to message #96402] |
Fri, 29 February 2008 06:34 |
Chris Ludwig
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Hi Dedric,
LGA775 is the socket type. 975 is the chipset.
:)
Chris
Dedric Terry wrote:
> Yikes, yep typo on my part - sorry about that: it is LGA775, not 975.
>
> On 2/28/08 10:34 PM, in article 47c79c87@linux, "Aaron Allen"
> <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>
>> I'm pretty sure mine's a LGA775 here, so I wanted to check that I may have
>> missed something or it's a typo?
>> - Always had good luck with Asus and Gigabyte either one FWIW.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:47c6e72a@linux...
>>
>>> David - Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield with a socket 975 Intel board.
>>> I have an Asus P5W DH Deluxe board that's a good board (esp. for multiple
>>> PCI and PCIe slots.
>>> (Gigabyte may be another good choice).
>>>
>>> I heard the Core 2 Quads were on sale for as low as $199 recently - down
>>> to $250 on newegg.com.
>>>
>>>
>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:47c6e4b2@linux...
>>>
>>>> Along this topic... what's the biggest bang for the buck right now for MB
>>>> and Chip?? Our Nuendo machine is in need of an upgrade....
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> Chris Ludwig wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to get the most out of it then these will help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Run SP2 especially if you gonna be using for internet stuff.
>>>>> Don't install IE7 yuck!! In fact uninstall fricking IE and Out look and
>>>>> install fire fox and thunder bird. But don't do that until you use IE6
>>>>> to download em. :)
>>>>> You will probably need to install dot net 1 and 2 but only need to
>>>>> install 3 if you have any vista machine in your network.
>>>>>
>>>>> These hot fixes are for multi-core Intel cpus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft hot fix:
>>>>> KB896256
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft hot fix:
>>>>> KB936357
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Make sure you are using the newest BIOS and latest drivers for the
>>>>> motherboard, especially the on board video.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which on board video card chip does your motherboard have? 8 meg seems
>>>>> way too low. Does it have hardwired memory and then shared past that?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Who all is running Quad here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just loaded my new pc up with WinXP, SP1. From BIOS boot/disk insert
>>>>>> to Windows installed welcome screen took 16 minutes. Can a get a Fresh
>>>>>> Prince ShaLamm! Updates and whatnot's coming (it'll be on the net), but
>>>>>> I'm looking for what to expect in the way of latency, plugs and track
>>>>>> counts. SATA 250GB system and 400GB data, 2 GB RAM. This machine will
>>>>>> be my 'everyday' box, streaming movies, music and handling most of my
>>>>>> song building. I'll mix elsewhere, but this little dude is the
>>>>>> workhorse for building/virtual synths and schlepping video render stuff
>>>>>> when I have time for that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone noted a major change from single or dual core tech to Quad
>>>>>> core in regards to latency in native rigs?
>>>>>> Any great audio or video rendering benchmarks out there to try? Keep in
>>>>>> mind, I'm using onboard Intel Graphics 8 (yuk) MB shared, so I'm not
>>>>>> trying to test the video card, only rendering capability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96410 is a reply to message #96401] |
Fri, 29 February 2008 06:39 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
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HI Aaron,
If you want to be able to use the 1333fsb based chips which are the
current ones then you will need a P35 or X38 chipset based motherboard.
Check out the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P (rev. 2.0) Intel DP35DP
Chris
Aaron Allen wrote:
> I'm pretty sure mine's a LGA775 here, so I wanted to check that I may have
> missed something or it's a typo?
> - Always had good luck with Asus and Gigabyte either one FWIW.
>
> AA
>
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:47c6e72a@linux...
>
>> David - Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield with a socket 975 Intel board.
>> I have an Asus P5W DH Deluxe board that's a good board (esp. for multiple
>> PCI and PCIe slots.
>> (Gigabyte may be another good choice).
>>
>> I heard the Core 2 Quads were on sale for as low as $199 recently - down
>> to $250 on newegg.com.
>>
>>
>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:47c6e4b2@linux...
>>
>>> Along this topic... what's the biggest bang for the buck right now for MB
>>> and Chip?? Our Nuendo machine is in need of an upgrade....
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> Chris Ludwig wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>
>>>> If you want to get the most out of it then these will help.
>>>>
>>>> Run SP2 especially if you gonna be using for internet stuff.
>>>> Don't install IE7 yuck!! In fact uninstall fricking IE and Out look and
>>>> install fire fox and thunder bird. But don't do that until you use IE6
>>>> to download em. :)
>>>> You will probably need to install dot net 1 and 2 but only need to
>>>> install 3 if you have any vista machine in your network.
>>>>
>>>> These hot fixes are for multi-core Intel cpus.
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft hot fix:
>>>> KB896256
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft hot fix:
>>>> KB936357
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Make sure you are using the newest BIOS and latest drivers for the
>>>> motherboard, especially the on board video.
>>>>
>>>> Which on board video card chip does your motherboard have? 8 meg seems
>>>> way too low. Does it have hardwired memory and then shared past that?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Who all is running Quad here?
>>>>>
>>>>> I just loaded my new pc up with WinXP, SP1. From BIOS boot/disk insert
>>>>> to Windows installed welcome screen took 16 minutes. Can a get a Fresh
>>>>> Prince ShaLamm! Updates and whatnot's coming (it'll be on the net), but
>>>>> I'm looking for what to expect in the way of latency, plugs and track
>>>>> counts. SATA 250GB system and 400GB data, 2 GB RAM. This machine will
>>>>> be my 'everyday' box, streaming movies, music and handling most of my
>>>>> song building. I'll mix elsewhere, but this little dude is the
>>>>> workhorse for building/virtual synths and schlepping video render stuff
>>>>> when I have time for that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone noted a major change from single or dual core tech to Quad
>>>>> core in regards to latency in native rigs?
>>>>> Any great audio or video rendering benchmarks out there to try? Keep in
>>>>> mind, I'm using onboard Intel Graphics 8 (yuk) MB shared, so I'm not
>>>>> trying to test the video card, only rendering capability.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96411 is a reply to message #96409] |
Fri, 29 February 2008 06:47 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
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Yes, hence the source of the typo....had 775 on my mind, typed 975.
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:47c81a41$1@linux...
> Hi Dedric,
>
> LGA775 is the socket type. 975 is the chipset.
> :)
> Chris
>
> Dedric Terry wrote:
>> Yikes, yep typo on my part - sorry about that: it is LGA775, not 975.
>>
>> On 2/28/08 10:34 PM, in article 47c79c87@linux, "Aaron Allen"
>> <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'm pretty sure mine's a LGA775 here, so I wanted to check that I may
>>> have
>>> missed something or it's a typo?
>>> - Always had good luck with Asus and Gigabyte either one FWIW.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message
>>> news:47c6e72a@linux...
>>>
>>>> David - Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield with a socket 975 Intel board.
>>>> I have an Asus P5W DH Deluxe board that's a good board (esp. for
>>>> multiple
>>>> PCI and PCIe slots.
>>>> (Gigabyte may be another good choice).
>>>>
>>>> I heard the Core 2 Quads were on sale for as low as $199 recently -
>>>> down
>>>> to $250 on newegg.com.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:47c6e4b2@linux...
>>>>
>>>>> Along this topic... what's the biggest bang for the buck right now for
>>>>> MB
>>>>> and Chip?? Our Nuendo machine is in need of an upgrade....
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Ludwig wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to get the most out of it then these will help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Run SP2 especially if you gonna be using for internet stuff.
>>>>>> Don't install IE7 yuck!! In fact uninstall fricking IE and Out look
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> install fire fox and thunder bird. But don't do that until you use
>>>>>> IE6
>>>>>> to download em. :)
>>>>>> You will probably need to install dot net 1 and 2 but only need to
>>>>>> install 3 if you have any vista machine in your network.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These hot fixes are for multi-core Intel cpus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Microsoft hot fix:
>>>>>> KB896256
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Microsoft hot fix:
>>>>>> KB936357
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Make sure you are using the newest BIOS and latest drivers for the
>>>>>> motherboard, especially the on board video.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which on board video card chip does your motherboard have? 8 meg
>>>>>> seems
>>>>>> way too low. Does it have hardwired memory and then shared past that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who all is running Quad here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just loaded my new pc up with WinXP, SP1. From BIOS boot/disk
>>>>>>> insert
>>>>>>> to Windows installed welcome screen took 16 minutes. Can a get a
>>>>>>> Fresh
>>>>>>> Prince ShaLamm! Updates and whatnot's coming (it'll be on the net),
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> I'm looking for what to expect in the way of latency, plugs and
>>>>>>> track
>>>>>>> counts. SATA 250GB system and 400GB data, 2 GB RAM. This machine
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> be my 'everyday' box, streaming movies, music and handling most of
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> song building. I'll mix elsewhere, but this little dude is the
>>>>>>> workhorse for building/virtual synths and schlepping video render
>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>> when I have time for that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone noted a major change from single or dual core tech to
>>>>>>> Quad
>>>>>>> core in regards to latency in native rigs?
>>>>>>> Any great audio or video rendering benchmarks out there to try? Keep
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> mind, I'm using onboard Intel Graphics 8 (yuk) MB shared, so I'm not
>>>>>>> trying to test the video card, only rendering capability.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96422 is a reply to message #96410] |
Fri, 29 February 2008 14:27 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
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Great motherboard.
I use 2... One with a dual core and 2mb ram and another (in the studio) with
a quad core and 4gb ram...
Rock solid.
Martin H
On 1/03/08 1:39 AM, in article 47c81b87$1@linux, "Chris Ludwig"
<chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
> HI Aaron,
> If you want to be able to use the 1333fsb based chips which are the
> current ones then you will need a P35 or X38 chipset based motherboard.
> Check out the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P (rev. 2.0) Intel DP35DP
>
> Chris
>
>
> Aaron Allen wrote:
>> I'm pretty sure mine's a LGA775 here, so I wanted to check that I may have
>> missed something or it's a typo?
>> - Always had good luck with Asus and Gigabyte either one FWIW.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:47c6e72a@linux...
>>
>>> David - Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield with a socket 975 Intel board.
>>> I have an Asus P5W DH Deluxe board that's a good board (esp. for multiple
>>> PCI and PCIe slots.
>>> (Gigabyte may be another good choice).
>>>
>>> I heard the Core 2 Quads were on sale for as low as $199 recently - down
>>> to $250 on newegg.com.
>>>
>>>
>>> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:47c6e4b2@linux...
>>>
>>>> Along this topic... what's the biggest bang for the buck right now for MB
>>>> and Chip?? Our Nuendo machine is in need of an upgrade....
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>> Chris Ludwig wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to get the most out of it then these will help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Run SP2 especially if you gonna be using for internet stuff.
>>>>> Don't install IE7 yuck!! In fact uninstall fricking IE and Out look and
>>>>> install fire fox and thunder bird. But don't do that until you use IE6
>>>>> to download em. :)
>>>>> You will probably need to install dot net 1 and 2 but only need to
>>>>> install 3 if you have any vista machine in your network.
>>>>>
>>>>> These hot fixes are for multi-core Intel cpus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft hot fix:
>>>>> KB896256
>>>>>
>>>>> Microsoft hot fix:
>>>>> KB936357
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Make sure you are using the newest BIOS and latest drivers for the
>>>>> motherboard, especially the on board video.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which on board video card chip does your motherboard have? 8 meg seems
>>>>> way too low. Does it have hardwired memory and then shared past that?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Aaron Allen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Who all is running Quad here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just loaded my new pc up with WinXP, SP1. From BIOS boot/disk insert
>>>>>> to Windows installed welcome screen took 16 minutes. Can a get a Fresh
>>>>>> Prince ShaLamm! Updates and whatnot's coming (it'll be on the net), but
>>>>>> I'm looking for what to expect in the way of latency, plugs and track
>>>>>> counts. SATA 250GB system and 400GB data, 2 GB RAM. This machine will
>>>>>> be my 'everyday' box, streaming movies, music and handling most of my
>>>>>> song building. I'll mix elsewhere, but this little dude is the
>>>>>> workhorse for building/virtual synths and schlepping video render stuff
>>>>>> when I have time for that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone noted a major change from single or dual core tech to Quad
>>>>>> core in regards to latency in native rigs?
>>>>>> Any great audio or video rendering benchmarks out there to try? Keep in
>>>>>> mind, I'm using onboard Intel Graphics 8 (yuk) MB shared, so I'm not
>>>>>> trying to test the video card, only rendering capability.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96423 is a reply to message #96397] |
Fri, 29 February 2008 14:55 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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HI Aaron,
Cool. Haven't used any of the Shuttle boxes in a long time but they used
to be great. I still run an old 875 chipset one and it has always been
solid.
You will seen a good jump in power for Nuendo. It works fine with the 4
core and will use them all. It is just not totally optimized for them.
Chris
Aaron Allen wrote:
> well, I took a different approach than I usually would and bought a mini
> chassis Shuttle - the SG31-G2. PCi-E and PCi slot, one of each. I'll use a
> FW audio card (TI chipset, 2 ports!) and the video is built in. I've seen
> the Q6600 for about $250 in several places and I'm completely impressed so
> far with that performance. I've been spanking it like a cheap rented donkey
> all day, multi tasking it's little butt off and I've managed to push it up
> to 50% CPU so far (stuff like downloading MS updates, installing Anti
> Spyware and doing a A/V scan while surfing the web and moving files across a
> network all at the same time). I'm not sure how Nuendo's multi core support
> is, so I'm not sure what kind of bump you'll see though.
> If it helps, the whole thing inclusive of RAM, CPU, bare bones, 2 HDDs and
> DVD-9 lightscribe drive ran me right about $700 US. I overpaid on the CPU by
> about $50 but I wanted it from a local vendor and I wanted it now. I'd
> supposed this super quiet little box would work well with a Magma PCI-e, but
> I couldn't verify that - if that's how your Nuendo is indeed set up.
>
> That help any?
>
> AA
>
>
> "EK Sound" <ask_me@nospam.net> wrote in message news:47c6e4b2@linux...
>> Along this topic... what's the biggest bang for the buck right now for MB
>> and Chip?? Our Nuendo machine is in need of an upgrade....
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96455 is a reply to message #96365] |
Sat, 01 March 2008 19:51 |
emarenot
Messages: 345
Registered: June 2005
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Hey Aaron
Got into a quad core about a month ago: Q6600, GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775
Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard, 2 gig of kingston RAM DDR2 800. I've been
running Reaper. Current project is 40 tracks, 110 plugs, cpu is hitting about
40% with a buffer of 256 -delta 1010LT. XP with SP2, pretty well tweaked
out. The power is certainly not limitless, but dang its been a freak show
with plugs. Lots-o-fun.
happyquadding,
MR
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Who all is running Quad here?
>
>I just loaded my new pc up with WinXP, SP1. From BIOS boot/disk insert to
>Windows installed welcome screen took 16 minutes. Can a get a Fresh Prince
>ShaLamm! Updates and whatnot's coming (it'll be on the net), but I'm looking
>for what to expect in the way of latency, plugs and track counts. SATA 250GB
>system and 400GB data, 2 GB RAM. This machine will be my 'everyday' box,
>streaming movies, music and handling most of my song building. I'll mix
>elsewhere, but this little dude is the workhorse for building/virtual synths
>and schlepping video render stuff when I have time for that.
>
>Has anyone noted a major change from single or dual core tech to Quad core
>in regards to latency in native rigs?
>Any great audio or video rendering benchmarks out there to try? Keep in
>mind, I'm using onboard Intel Graphics 8 (yuk) MB shared, so I'm not trying
>to test the video card, only rendering capability.
>
>
>
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96459 is a reply to message #96455] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 01:14 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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I transplanted my EMU0404 to the machine tonight, and fired a native
app/native synths at it. Geez..... I'm not quite sure yet with how I work
I'm gonna be able to top this thing out. Keeping in mind, I use this box for
everything, and I've got 'everything' loaded up on it (included a full blown
office 2007 setup, A/V, antispy, etc....) as a result.And I haven't even
done the OS tweaking yet.
Ain't tech grand? Finally I feel the promise of daily art (w/o the system
choking) I'd hoped for some years back when the 'restless got native'.
Deej is gonna HAVE to get a quad or he'll....... you know........
AA
"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47ca163d$1@linux...
>
> Hey Aaron
> Got into a quad core about a month ago: Q6600, GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA
> 775
> Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard, 2 gig of kingston RAM DDR2 800. I've
> been
> running Reaper. Current project is 40 tracks, 110 plugs, cpu is hitting
> about
> 40% with a buffer of 256 -delta 1010LT. XP with SP2, pretty well tweaked
> out. The power is certainly not limitless, but dang its been a freak show
> with plugs. Lots-o-fun.
> happyquadding,
> MR
>
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96461 is a reply to message #96459] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 01:27 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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Rock on, Aaron!
I still have a similar feeling with my dual G5, although your box is
probably 2-4x faster. Zoom!
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
Aaron Allen wrote:
> I transplanted my EMU0404 to the machine tonight, and fired a native
> app/native synths at it. Geez..... I'm not quite sure yet with how I work
> I'm gonna be able to top this thing out. Keeping in mind, I use this box for
> everything, and I've got 'everything' loaded up on it (included a full blown
> office 2007 setup, A/V, antispy, etc....) as a result.And I haven't even
> done the OS tweaking yet.
> Ain't tech grand? Finally I feel the promise of daily art (w/o the system
> choking) I'd hoped for some years back when the 'restless got native'.
> Deej is gonna HAVE to get a quad or he'll....... you know........
>
> AA
>
>
> "Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47ca163d$1@linux...
>> Hey Aaron
>> Got into a quad core about a month ago: Q6600, GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA
>> 775
>> Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard, 2 gig of kingston RAM DDR2 800. I've
>> been
>> running Reaper. Current project is 40 tracks, 110 plugs, cpu is hitting
>> about
>> 40% with a buffer of 256 -delta 1010LT. XP with SP2, pretty well tweaked
>> out. The power is certainly not limitless, but dang its been a freak show
>> with plugs. Lots-o-fun.
>> happyquadding,
>> MR
>>
>
>
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96464 is a reply to message #96459] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 07:40 |
emarenot
Messages: 345
Registered: June 2005
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Sheesh, I can't shut up about it. I'm really blown away -high track counts
and really no big worries about tossin' in the plugs. Last night, we had
a freeamp 3 feeding a couple of distortion plugs a compressor and then another
freeamp 3 and then routed that channel to two subs, one with a verb and the
other with a dual delay. I spent about 700 for the pieces parts. Can't
believe the bang for the buck. At least for me in my little tiny world ITB
has definately arrived.
take care MR
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>I transplanted my EMU0404 to the machine tonight, and fired a native
>app/native synths at it. Geez..... I'm not quite sure yet with how I work
>I'm gonna be able to top this thing out. Keeping in mind, I use this box
for
>everything, and I've got 'everything' loaded up on it (included a full blown
>office 2007 setup, A/V, antispy, etc....) as a result.And I haven't even
>done the OS tweaking yet.
>Ain't tech grand? Finally I feel the promise of daily art (w/o the system
>choking) I'd hoped for some years back when the 'restless got native'.
>Deej is gonna HAVE to get a quad or he'll....... you know........
>
>AA
>
>
>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47ca163d$1@linux...
>>
>> Hey Aaron
>> Got into a quad core about a month ago: Q6600, GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA
>> 775
>> Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard, 2 gig of kingston RAM DDR2 800. I've
>> been
>> running Reaper. Current project is 40 tracks, 110 plugs, cpu is hitting
>> about
>> 40% with a buffer of 256 -delta 1010LT. XP with SP2, pretty well tweaked
>> out. The power is certainly not limitless, but dang its been a freak
show
>> with plugs. Lots-o-fun.
>> happyquadding,
>> MR
>>
>
>
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96467 is a reply to message #96464] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 08:33 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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What audio card/latency are you seeing? On the 0404 I've got it dead stable
at 5 mS, and I'll probably try to push it a little more down the road.
AA
"Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47cabc51$1@linux...
>
> Sheesh, I can't shut up about it. I'm really blown away -high track
> counts
> and really no big worries about tossin' in the plugs. Last night, we had
> a freeamp 3 feeding a couple of distortion plugs a compressor and then
> another
> freeamp 3 and then routed that channel to two subs, one with a verb and
> the
> other with a dual delay. I spent about 700 for the pieces parts. Can't
> believe the bang for the buck. At least for me in my little tiny world
> ITB
> has definately arrived.
> take care MR
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>I transplanted my EMU0404 to the machine tonight, and fired a native
>>app/native synths at it. Geez..... I'm not quite sure yet with how I work
>
>>I'm gonna be able to top this thing out. Keeping in mind, I use this box
> for
>>everything, and I've got 'everything' loaded up on it (included a full
>>blown
>
>>office 2007 setup, A/V, antispy, etc....) as a result.And I haven't even
>
>>done the OS tweaking yet.
>>Ain't tech grand? Finally I feel the promise of daily art (w/o the system
>
>>choking) I'd hoped for some years back when the 'restless got native'.
>>Deej is gonna HAVE to get a quad or he'll....... you know........
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47ca163d$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hey Aaron
>>> Got into a quad core about a month ago: Q6600, GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA
>
>>> 775
>>> Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard, 2 gig of kingston RAM DDR2 800. I've
>
>>> been
>>> running Reaper. Current project is 40 tracks, 110 plugs, cpu is hitting
>
>>> about
>>> 40% with a buffer of 256 -delta 1010LT. XP with SP2, pretty well
>>> tweaked
>>> out. The power is certainly not limitless, but dang its been a freak
> show
>>> with plugs. Lots-o-fun.
>>> happyquadding,
>>> MR
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96468 is a reply to message #96467] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 08:47 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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I should say dead stable at 44.1/16bit, which is where I produce most of my
band related stuff at still. Using ASIO.
AA
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:47cad9dc$1@linux...
> What audio card/latency are you seeing? On the 0404 I've got it dead
> stable at 5 mS, and I'll probably try to push it a little more down the
> road.
>
> AA
>
> "Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47cabc51$1@linux...
>>
>> Sheesh, I can't shut up about it. I'm really blown away -high track
>> counts
>> and really no big worries about tossin' in the plugs. Last night, we had
>> a freeamp 3 feeding a couple of distortion plugs a compressor and then
>> another
>> freeamp 3 and then routed that channel to two subs, one with a verb and
>> the
>> other with a dual delay. I spent about 700 for the pieces parts. Can't
>> believe the bang for the buck. At least for me in my little tiny world
>> ITB
>> has definately arrived.
>> take care MR
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>I transplanted my EMU0404 to the machine tonight, and fired a native
>>>app/native synths at it. Geez..... I'm not quite sure yet with how I work
>>
>>>I'm gonna be able to top this thing out. Keeping in mind, I use this box
>> for
>>>everything, and I've got 'everything' loaded up on it (included a full
>>>blown
>>
>>>office 2007 setup, A/V, antispy, etc....) as a result.And I haven't even
>>
>>>done the OS tweaking yet.
>>>Ain't tech grand? Finally I feel the promise of daily art (w/o the system
>>
>>>choking) I'd hoped for some years back when the 'restless got native'.
>>>Deej is gonna HAVE to get a quad or he'll....... you know........
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47ca163d$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hey Aaron
>>>> Got into a quad core about a month ago: Q6600, GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA
>>
>>>> 775
>>>> Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard, 2 gig of kingston RAM DDR2 800. I've
>>
>>>> been
>>>> running Reaper. Current project is 40 tracks, 110 plugs, cpu is hitting
>>
>>>> about
>>>> 40% with a buffer of 256 -delta 1010LT. XP with SP2, pretty well
>>>> tweaked
>>>> out. The power is certainly not limitless, but dang its been a freak
>> show
>>>> with plugs. Lots-o-fun.
>>>> happyquadding,
>>>> MR
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96473 is a reply to message #96468] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 13:17 |
emarenot
Messages: 345
Registered: June 2005
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Senior Member |
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Current project is at 258 which is 6ms of latency -40 tracks, 100FX (combination
of vst's and vsti's). 44.1/24bit. I'm ok with 6ms so I haven't played around
with lower latencies. I'll have to experiment a little and post back. Paris
is still the bomb, but being able to mess with all these vsti's -all in one
box, has been great. I could get similar results from Paris, but I needed
to sync up at least two computers, sometimes three, to make it happen. Now,
one project, one box. Cool.
MR
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>I should say dead stable at 44.1/16bit, which is where I produce most of
my
>band related stuff at still. Using ASIO.
>
>AA
>
>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>news:47cad9dc$1@linux...
>> What audio card/latency are you seeing? On the 0404 I've got it dead
>> stable at 5 mS, and I'll probably try to push it a little more down the
>> road.
>>
>> AA
>>
>> "Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47cabc51$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Sheesh, I can't shut up about it. I'm really blown away -high track
>>> counts
>>> and really no big worries about tossin' in the plugs. Last night, we
had
>>> a freeamp 3 feeding a couple of distortion plugs a compressor and then
>>> another
>>> freeamp 3 and then routed that channel to two subs, one with a verb and
>>> the
>>> other with a dual delay. I spent about 700 for the pieces parts. Can't
>>> believe the bang for the buck. At least for me in my little tiny world
>>> ITB
>>> has definately arrived.
>>> take care MR
>>>
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>I transplanted my EMU0404 to the machine tonight, and fired a native
>>>>app/native synths at it. Geez..... I'm not quite sure yet with how I
work
>>>
>>>>I'm gonna be able to top this thing out. Keeping in mind, I use this
box
>>> for
>>>>everything, and I've got 'everything' loaded up on it (included a full
>>>>blown
>>>
>>>>office 2007 setup, A/V, antispy, etc....) as a result.And I haven't even
>>>
>>>>done the OS tweaking yet.
>>>>Ain't tech grand? Finally I feel the promise of daily art (w/o the system
>>>
>>>>choking) I'd hoped for some years back when the 'restless got native'.
>>>>Deej is gonna HAVE to get a quad or he'll....... you know........
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47ca163d$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Aaron
>>>>> Got into a quad core about a month ago: Q6600, GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L
LGA
>>>
>>>>> 775
>>>>> Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard, 2 gig of kingston RAM DDR2 800. I've
>>>
>>>>> been
>>>>> running Reaper. Current project is 40 tracks, 110 plugs, cpu is hitting
>>>
>>>>> about
>>>>> 40% with a buffer of 256 -delta 1010LT. XP with SP2, pretty well
>>>>> tweaked
>>>>> out. The power is certainly not limitless, but dang its been a freak
>>> show
>>>>> with plugs. Lots-o-fun.
>>>>> happyquadding,
>>>>> MR
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96484 is a reply to message #96473] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 20:52 |
AlexPlasko
Messages: 211
Registered: September 2006
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Senior Member |
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anybody test quad core performance with VSTi's with DSD softsamplers like
the grand or East West Play ?I'm curious because play chokes the shit out
of the opteron machine.5 streams and its breathing heavy.
I guess the convolution reverbs have more to do with it than streaming.
anyone? Chris?
"Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47cb0b73$1@linux...
>
> Current project is at 258 which is 6ms of latency -40 tracks, 100FX
> (combination
> of vst's and vsti's). 44.1/24bit. I'm ok with 6ms so I haven't played
> around
> with lower latencies. I'll have to experiment a little and post back.
> Paris
> is still the bomb, but being able to mess with all these vsti's -all in
> one
> box, has been great. I could get similar results from Paris, but I needed
> to sync up at least two computers, sometimes three, to make it happen.
> Now,
> one project, one box. Cool.
> MR
>
>
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>I should say dead stable at 44.1/16bit, which is where I produce most of
> my
>>band related stuff at still. Using ASIO.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>news:47cad9dc$1@linux...
>>> What audio card/latency are you seeing? On the 0404 I've got it dead
>>> stable at 5 mS, and I'll probably try to push it a little more down the
>
>>> road.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>> "Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47cabc51$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Sheesh, I can't shut up about it. I'm really blown away -high track
>
>>>> counts
>>>> and really no big worries about tossin' in the plugs. Last night, we
> had
>>>> a freeamp 3 feeding a couple of distortion plugs a compressor and then
>
>>>> another
>>>> freeamp 3 and then routed that channel to two subs, one with a verb and
>
>>>> the
>>>> other with a dual delay. I spent about 700 for the pieces parts.
>>>> Can't
>>>> believe the bang for the buck. At least for me in my little tiny world
>
>>>> ITB
>>>> has definately arrived.
>>>> take care MR
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>I transplanted my EMU0404 to the machine tonight, and fired a native
>>>>>app/native synths at it. Geez..... I'm not quite sure yet with how I
> work
>>>>
>>>>>I'm gonna be able to top this thing out. Keeping in mind, I use this
> box
>>>> for
>>>>>everything, and I've got 'everything' loaded up on it (included a full
>
>>>>>blown
>>>>
>>>>>office 2007 setup, A/V, antispy, etc....) as a result.And I haven't
>>>>>even
>>>>
>>>>>done the OS tweaking yet.
>>>>>Ain't tech grand? Finally I feel the promise of daily art (w/o the
>>>>>system
>>>>
>>>>>choking) I'd hoped for some years back when the 'restless got native'.
>>>>>Deej is gonna HAVE to get a quad or he'll....... you know........
>>>>>
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:47ca163d$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Aaron
>>>>>> Got into a quad core about a month ago: Q6600, GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L
> LGA
>>>>
>>>>>> 775
>>>>>> Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard, 2 gig of kingston RAM DDR2 800.
>>>>>> I've
>>>>
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> running Reaper. Current project is 40 tracks, 110 plugs, cpu is
>>>>>> hitting
>>>>
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> 40% with a buffer of 256 -delta 1010LT. XP with SP2, pretty well
>>>>>> tweaked
>>>>>> out. The power is certainly not limitless, but dang its been a freak
>>>> show
>>>>>> with plugs. Lots-o-fun.
>>>>>> happyquadding,
>>>>>> MR
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96486 is a reply to message #96484] |
Sun, 02 March 2008 21:09 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Senior Member |
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The EMU 0404 sound card comes with a set of software playback streaming
samplers called Emulator X and Proteus X.... and they both are slammin fast.
I haven't done any real hardcore testing with them but preliminaries are
that it smokes anything else i've seen. Those were bordering on worthless in
the previous system, an AMD64 single core 2800+ with a Gig of RAM. What I
have found is that the CPU cores far and away outrun the hard disk in video
rendering, using a 400GB seagate SATA. HDD is defintely the choke point for
that work.
Does that help?
AA
"alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote in message news:47cb8740@linux...
> anybody test quad core performance with VSTi's with DSD softsamplers like
> the grand or East West Play ?I'm curious because play chokes the shit out
> of the opteron machine.5 streams and its breathing heavy.
> I guess the convolution reverbs have more to do with it than streaming.
> anyone? Chris?
> "Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47cb0b73$1@linux...
>>
>> Current project is at 258 which is 6ms of latency -40 tracks, 100FX
>> (combination
>> of vst's and vsti's). 44.1/24bit. I'm ok with 6ms so I haven't played
>> around
>> with lower latencies. I'll have to experiment a little and post back.
>> Paris
>> is still the bomb, but being able to mess with all these vsti's -all in
>> one
>> box, has been great. I could get similar results from Paris, but I
>> needed
>> to sync up at least two computers, sometimes three, to make it happen.
>> Now,
>> one project, one box. Cool.
>> MR
>>
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>I should say dead stable at 44.1/16bit, which is where I produce most of
>> my
>>>band related stuff at still. Using ASIO.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>news:47cad9dc$1@linux...
>>>> What audio card/latency are you seeing? On the 0404 I've got it dead
>>>> stable at 5 mS, and I'll probably try to push it a little more down the
>>
>>>> road.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>> "Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47cabc51$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sheesh, I can't shut up about it. I'm really blown away -high track
>>
>>>>> counts
>>>>> and really no big worries about tossin' in the plugs. Last night, we
>> had
>>>>> a freeamp 3 feeding a couple of distortion plugs a compressor and then
>>
>>>>> another
>>>>> freeamp 3 and then routed that channel to two subs, one with a verb
>>>>> and
>>
>>>>> the
>>>>> other with a dual delay. I spent about 700 for the pieces parts.
>>>>> Can't
>>>>> believe the bang for the buck. At least for me in my little tiny
>>>>> world
>>
>>>>> ITB
>>>>> has definately arrived.
>>>>> take care MR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>>I transplanted my EMU0404 to the machine tonight, and fired a native
>>>>>>app/native synths at it. Geez..... I'm not quite sure yet with how I
>> work
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm gonna be able to top this thing out. Keeping in mind, I use this
>> box
>>>>> for
>>>>>>everything, and I've got 'everything' loaded up on it (included a full
>>
>>>>>>blown
>>>>>
>>>>>>office 2007 setup, A/V, antispy, etc....) as a result.And I haven't
>>>>>>even
>>>>>
>>>>>>done the OS tweaking yet.
>>>>>>Ain't tech grand? Finally I feel the promise of daily art (w/o the
>>>>>>system
>>>>>
>>>>>>choking) I'd hoped for some years back when the 'restless got native'.
>>>>>>Deej is gonna HAVE to get a quad or he'll....... you know........
>>>>>>
>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:47ca163d$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey Aaron
>>>>>>> Got into a quad core about a month ago: Q6600, GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L
>> LGA
>>>>>
>>>>>>> 775
>>>>>>> Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard, 2 gig of kingston RAM DDR2 800.
>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> running Reaper. Current project is 40 tracks, 110 plugs, cpu is
>>>>>>> hitting
>>>>>
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> 40% with a buffer of 256 -delta 1010LT. XP with SP2, pretty well
>>>>>>> tweaked
>>>>>>> out. The power is certainly not limitless, but dang its been a
>>>>>>> freak
>>>>> show
>>>>>>> with plugs. Lots-o-fun.
>>>>>>> happyquadding,
>>>>>>> MR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96494 is a reply to message #96486] |
Mon, 03 March 2008 04:58 |
AlexPlasko
Messages: 211
Registered: September 2006
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Senior Member |
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|
thanks Aaron
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:47cb8b36$1@linux...
> The EMU 0404 sound card comes with a set of software playback streaming
> samplers called Emulator X and Proteus X.... and they both are slammin
> fast. I haven't done any real hardcore testing with them but preliminaries
> are that it smokes anything else i've seen. Those were bordering on
> worthless in the previous system, an AMD64 single core 2800+ with a Gig of
> RAM. What I have found is that the CPU cores far and away outrun the hard
> disk in video rendering, using a 400GB seagate SATA. HDD is defintely the
> choke point for that work.
> Does that help?
>
> AA
>
>
> "alex plasko" <alex.plasko@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:47cb8740@linux...
>> anybody test quad core performance with VSTi's with DSD softsamplers
>> like the grand or East West Play ?I'm curious because play chokes the
>> shit out of the opteron machine.5 streams and its breathing heavy.
>> I guess the convolution reverbs have more to do with it than streaming.
>> anyone? Chris?
>> "Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:47cb0b73$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Current project is at 258 which is 6ms of latency -40 tracks, 100FX
>>> (combination
>>> of vst's and vsti's). 44.1/24bit. I'm ok with 6ms so I haven't played
>>> around
>>> with lower latencies. I'll have to experiment a little and post back.
>>> Paris
>>> is still the bomb, but being able to mess with all these vsti's -all in
>>> one
>>> box, has been great. I could get similar results from Paris, but I
>>> needed
>>> to sync up at least two computers, sometimes three, to make it happen.
>>> Now,
>>> one project, one box. Cool.
>>> MR
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>I should say dead stable at 44.1/16bit, which is where I produce most of
>>> my
>>>>band related stuff at still. Using ASIO.
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>>>>news:47cad9dc$1@linux...
>>>>> What audio card/latency are you seeing? On the 0404 I've got it dead
>>>>> stable at 5 mS, and I'll probably try to push it a little more down
>>>>> the
>>>
>>>>> road.
>>>>>
>>>>> AA
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike R" <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:47cabc51$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheesh, I can't shut up about it. I'm really blown away -high track
>>>
>>>>>> counts
>>>>>> and really no big worries about tossin' in the plugs. Last night, we
>>> had
>>>>>> a freeamp 3 feeding a couple of distortion plugs a compressor and
>>>>>> then
>>>
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> freeamp 3 and then routed that channel to two subs, one with a verb
>>>>>> and
>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> other with a dual delay. I spent about 700 for the pieces parts.
>>>>>> Can't
>>>>>> believe the bang for the buck. At least for me in my little tiny
>>>>>> world
>>>
>>>>>> ITB
>>>>>> has definately arrived.
>>>>>> take care MR
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>>>I transplanted my EMU0404 to the machine tonight, and fired a native
>>>>>>>app/native synths at it. Geez..... I'm not quite sure yet with how I
>>> work
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm gonna be able to top this thing out. Keeping in mind, I use this
>>> box
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>everything, and I've got 'everything' loaded up on it (included a
>>>>>>>full
>>>
>>>>>>>blown
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>office 2007 setup, A/V, antispy, etc....) as a result.And I haven't
>>>>>>>even
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>done the OS tweaking yet.
>>>>>>>Ain't tech grand? Finally I feel the promise of daily art (w/o the
>>>>>>>system
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>choking) I'd hoped for some years back when the 'restless got
>>>>>>>native'.
>>>>>>>Deej is gonna HAVE to get a quad or he'll....... you know........
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Mike R." <emarenot@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:47ca163d$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey Aaron
>>>>>>>> Got into a quad core about a month ago: Q6600, GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L
>>> LGA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 775
>>>>>>>> Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard, 2 gig of kingston RAM DDR2 800.
>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>> running Reaper. Current project is 40 tracks, 110 plugs, cpu is
>>>>>>>> hitting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> 40% with a buffer of 256 -delta 1010LT. XP with SP2, pretty well
>>>>>>>> tweaked
>>>>>>>> out. The power is certainly not limitless, but dang its been a
>>>>>>>> freak
>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>> with plugs. Lots-o-fun.
>>>>>>>> happyquadding,
>>>>>>>> MR
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: quad core questions: Who's using 4 core? [message #96495 is a reply to message #96374] |
Mon, 03 March 2008 06:41 |
emarenot
Messages: 345
Registered: June 2005
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Senior Member |
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Hey Chris
Regarding the hotfixes, MS reports that the hotfixes fix problems that are
"uncommon" -I believe that was the word used. Are you finding that generally
the hotfixes make a overall improvement in MOST mulitcore (intel) systems?
Just feeling alittle hinkey about making changes to my registery.
Thanks man,
MR
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Aaron,
>
>If you want to get the most out of it then these will help.
>
>Run SP2 especially if you gonna be using for internet stuff.
>Don't install IE7 yuck!! In fact uninstall fricking IE and Out look and
>install fire fox and thunder bird. But don't do that until you use IE6
>to download em. :)
>You will probably need to install dot net 1 and 2 but only need to
>install 3 if you have any vista machine in your network.
>
>These hot fixes are for multi-core Intel cpus.
>
>Microsoft hot fix:
>KB896256
>
>Microsoft hot fix:
>KB936357
>
>
>Make sure you are using the newest BIOS and latest drivers for the
>motherboard, especially the on board video.
>
>Which on board video card chip does your motherboard have? 8 meg seems
>way too low. Does it have hardwired memory and then shared past that?
>
>
>
>
>Chris
>
>
>Aaron Allen wrote:
>> Who all is running Quad here?
>>
>> I just loaded my new pc up with WinXP, SP1. From BIOS boot/disk insert
to
>> Windows installed welcome screen took 16 minutes. Can a get a Fresh Prince
>> ShaLamm! Updates and whatnot's coming (it'll be on the net), but I'm looking
>> for what to expect in the way of latency, plugs and track counts. SATA
250GB
>> system and 400GB data, 2 GB RAM. This machine will be my 'everyday' box,
>> streaming movies, music and handling most of my song building. I'll mix
>> elsewhere, but this little dude is the workhorse for building/virtual
synths
>> and schlepping video render stuff when I have time for that.
>>
>> Has anyone noted a major change from single or dual core tech to Quad
core
>> in regards to latency in native rigs?
>> Any great audio or video rendering benchmarks out there to try? Keep in
>> mind, I'm using onboard Intel Graphics 8 (yuk) MB shared, so I'm not trying
>> to test the video card, only rendering capability.
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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