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Hmmmm........OK......this is cool stuff [message #84200]

Tue, 08 May 2007 21:35

Deej [4]

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http://www.circotech.com/rack-mount-case-rack-mount-accssori es-2urisercards.html

I can already see my plans to invest in a 64 bit ($2k) PCIe>PCI expansion
chassis growing wings and flying away.......maybe.

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Re: Hmmmm........OK......this is cool stuff [message #84202 is a reply to message #84200]

Tue, 08 May 2007 21:54

Deej [4]

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"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46415118@linux...
> http://www.circotech.com/rack-mount-case-rack-mount-accssori es-2urisercards.html
>
> I can already see my plans to invest in a 64 bit ($2k) PCIe>PCI expansion
> chassis growing wings and flying away.......maybe.
>
>
>

the mobo I'm planning on getting has both PCI and PCI-X busses.

I could use one of these for my RME cards in a PCI-X slot.

http://www.circotech.com/2u-3-x-64-bit-3-3v-pci-x-133mhz-ris er-card-with-11cm-flex-cable.html

....and daisy chain two more of them (which would provide 5 x PCI slots and
hang them off the PCI slot for my 4 x UAD-1 cards and have an extra slot
left on the same bus for something else like a POCO maybe.......at least I
think I can as long as the host card has compatible voltage keying.

It would certainly be worth a try. 3 of these 2U riser cards would be under
$200.00.

Yeah..I've definitely got to look into this. Some of this stuff might save
you Parisites some scratch if you're not wanting to buy a Magma (and I will
be selling three of the 13 slot models if this works)

;o)

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Re: Hmmmm........OK......this is cool stuff [message #84205 is a reply to message #84202]

Tue, 08 May 2007 23:03

Dimitrios

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Registered: August 2005

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Hey DJ !
Is this what it looks like ??
A magma without a magma ?
Does this riser means extender ?
If I conclude correctly you just put a pci riser on a pci slot (32bit still
here !) and get yourself two pci slots that share the ame IRQ ?
Means that motherboard identifies two pci cards as if this pci slot had a
brother (or sister) ?
Wow if so that is something !!!
Dear DJ what is needed for an extra 2-3 pci slots on a P2B Asus motherboard
that already has 5 pci slots ?
Only two riser 32bit cards ?
Thanks
Dimitrios !

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46415118@linux...
>> http://www.circotech.com/rack-mount-case-rack-mount-accssori es-2urisercards.html
>>
>> I can already see my plans to invest in a 64 bit ($2k) PCIe>PCI expansion

>> chassis growing wings and flying away.......maybe.
>>
>>
>>
>
>the mobo I'm planning on getting has both PCI and PCI-X busses.
>
>I could use one of these for my RME cards in a PCI-X slot.
>
> http://www.circotech.com/2u-3-x-64-bit-3-3v-pci-x-133mhz-ris er-card-with-11cm-flex-cable.html
>
>...and daisy chain two more of them (which would provide 5 x PCI slots and

>hang them off the PCI slot for my 4 x UAD-1 cards and have an extra slot

>left on the same bus for something else like a POCO maybe.......at least
I
>think I can as long as the host card has compatible voltage keying.
>
>It would certainly be worth a try. 3 of these 2U riser cards would be under

>$200.00.
>
>Yeah..I've definitely got to look into this. Some of this stuff might save

>you Parisites some scratch if you're not wanting to buy a Magma (and I will

>be selling three of the 13 slot models if this works)
>
>;o)
>
>
>
>

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Re: Hmmmm........OK......this is cool stuff [message #84206 is a reply to message #84202]

Tue, 08 May 2007 23:19

Dimitrios

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Registered: August 2005

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Dear DJ is this what we need for more eds cards ?

http://www.circotech.com/2u-3-x-32bit-5v-pci-riser-card-with -7cm-flex-cable.html

Ok what case would someone need to have this added on a dense motherboard
?

Ok hold on the mytek and paris out card until I get two of those too !!

Regards,
Dimitrios

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46415118@linux...
>> http://www.circotech.com/rack-mount-case-rack-mount-accssori es-2urisercards.html
>>
>> I can already see my plans to invest in a 64 bit ($2k) PCIe>PCI expansion

>> chassis growing wings and flying away.......maybe.
>>
>>
>>
>
>the mobo I'm planning on getting has both PCI and PCI-X busses.
>
>I could use one of these for my RME cards in a PCI-X slot.
>
> http://www.circotech.com/2u-3-x-64-bit-3-3v-pci-x-133mhz-ris er-card-with-11cm-flex-cable.html
>
>...and daisy chain two more of them (which would provide 5 x PCI slots and

>hang them off the PCI slot for my 4 x UAD-1 cards and have an extra slot

>left on the same bus for something else like a POCO maybe.......at least
I
>think I can as long as the host card has compatible voltage keying.
>
>It would certainly be worth a try. 3 of these 2U riser cards would be under

>$200.00.
>
>Yeah..I've definitely got to look into this. Some of this stuff might save

>you Parisites some scratch if you're not wanting to buy a Magma (and I will

>be selling three of the 13 slot models if this works)
>
>;o)
>
>
>
>

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Re: Hmmmm........OK......this is cool stuff [message #84208 is a reply to message #84202]

Tue, 08 May 2007 23:38

JeffH

Messages: 307
Registered: October 2007
Location: Wamic, OR

Senior Member

And here's something to put it in

http://www.nwca.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=products.showDetail &header=CASES&subheader=HOME%20THEATRE&productID =6110&flag=Standalone

Hoov

DJ wrote:
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46415118@linux...
>
>> http://www.circotech.com/rack-mount-case-rack-mount-accssori es-2urisercards.html
>>
>>I can already see my plans to invest in a 64 bit ($2k) PCIe>PCI expansion
>>chassis growing wings and flying away.......maybe.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> the mobo I'm planning on getting has both PCI and PCI-X busses.
>
> I could use one of these for my RME cards in a PCI-X slot.
>
> http://www.circotech.com/2u-3-x-64-bit-3-3v-pci-x-133mhz-ris er-card-with-11cm-flex-cable.html
>
> ...and daisy chain two more of them (which would provide 5 x PCI slots and
> hang them off the PCI slot for my 4 x UAD-1 cards and have an extra slot
> left on the same bus for something else like a POCO maybe.......at least I
> think I can as long as the host card has compatible voltage keying.
>
> It would certainly be worth a try. 3 of these 2U riser cards would be under
> $200.00.
>
> Yeah..I've definitely got to look into this. Some of this stuff might save
> you Parisites some scratch if you're not wanting to buy a Magma (and I will
> be selling three of the 13 slot models if this works)
>
> ;o)
>
>
>
>

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Re: Hmmmm........OK......this is cool stuff [message #84212 is a reply to message #84202]

Wed, 09 May 2007 04:10

Dimitrios

Messages: 1056
Registered: August 2005

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DJ,
From what I read it cannot probably work as wished...
These are to just raise the height of the pci slot.
I wish if this work.
Will you try one for us ?
Regards,
Dimitrios

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46415118@linux...
>> http://www.circotech.com/rack-mount-case-rack-mount-accssori es-2urisercards.html
>>
>> I can already see my plans to invest in a 64 bit ($2k) PCIe>PCI expansion

>> chassis growing wings and flying away.......maybe.
>>
>>
>>
>
>the mobo I'm planning on getting has both PCI and PCI-X busses.
>
>I could use one of these for my RME cards in a PCI-X slot.
>
> http://www.circotech.com/2u-3-x-64-bit-3-3v-pci-x-133mhz-ris er-card-with-11cm-flex-cable.html
>
>...and daisy chain two more of them (which would provide 5 x PCI slots and

>hang them off the PCI slot for my 4 x UAD-1 cards and have an extra slot

>left on the same bus for something else like a POCO maybe.......at least
I
>think I can as long as the host card has compatible voltage keying.
>
>It would certainly be worth a try. 3 of these 2U riser cards would be under

>$200.00.
>
>Yeah..I've definitely got to look into this. Some of this stuff might save

>you Parisites some scratch if you're not wanting to buy a Magma (and I will

>be selling three of the 13 slot models if this works)
>
>;o)
>
>
>
>

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Re: Hmmmm........OK......this is cool stuff [message #84221 is a reply to message #84200]

Wed, 09 May 2007 07:04

TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007

Senior Member

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdAKgJDahzw

TCB

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
> http://www.circotech.com/rack-mount-case-rack-mount-accssori es-2urisercards.html
>
>I can already see my plans to invest in a 64 bit ($2k) PCIe>PCI expansion

>chassis growing wings and flying away.......maybe.
>
>
>

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Re: Hmmmm........OK......this is cool stuff [message #84223 is a reply to message #84205]

Wed, 09 May 2007 08:19

Deej [4]

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Registered: January 2007

Senior Member

The issue here will be whether a PCI>PCI bridge is necessary. Theoretically,
if the devices are good with sharing the same IRQ, the bridge shouldn't be
an issue. I will be calling them in a few minutes. They open at 8:30 PDT. If
it looks like this will work, I will be ordering three of these (1 x for my
HDSP cards and 2 x for my UAD-1 cards. I wish the ribbon cables were a bit
longer. 11cm looks like the longest available.

Deej

"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenNOSPAMet.gr> wrote in message
news:46416439$1@linux...
>
> Hey DJ !
> Is this what it looks like ??
> A magma without a magma ?
> Does this riser means extender ?
> If I conclude correctly you just put a pci riser on a pci slot (32bit
> still
> here !) and get yourself two pci slots that share the ame IRQ ?
> Means that motherboard identifies two pci cards as if this pci slot had a
> brother (or sister) ?
> Wow if so that is something !!!
> Dear DJ what is needed for an extra 2-3 pci slots on a P2B Asus
> motherboard
> that already has 5 pci slots ?
> Only two riser 32bit cards ?
> Thanks
> Dimitrios !
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46415118@linux...
>>> http://www.circotech.com/rack-mount-case-rack-mount-accssori es-2urisercards.html
>>>
>>> I can already see my plans to invest in a 64 bit ($2k) PCIe>PCI
>>> expansion
>
>>> chassis growing wings and flying away.......maybe.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>the mobo I'm planning on getting has both PCI and PCI-X busses.
>>
>>I could use one of these for my RME cards in a PCI-X slot.
>>
>> http://www.circotech.com/2u-3-x-64-bit-3-3v-pci-x-133mhz-ris er-card-with-11cm-flex-cable.html
>>
>>...and daisy chain two more of them (which would provide 5 x PCI slots and
>
>>hang them off the PCI slot for my 4 x UAD-1 cards and have an extra slot
>
>>left on the same bus for something else like a POCO maybe.......at least
> I
>>think I can as long as the host card has compatible voltage keying.
>>
>>It would certainly be worth a try. 3 of these 2U riser cards would be
>>under
>
>>$200.00.
>>
>>Yeah..I've definitely got to look into this. Some of this stuff might save
>
>>you Parisites some scratch if you're not wanting to buy a Magma (and I
>>will
>
>>be selling three of the 13 slot models if this works)
>>
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: Hmmmm........OK......this is cool stuff [message #84226 is a reply to message #84221]

Wed, 09 May 2007 09:43

Deej [4]

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Registered: January 2007

Senior Member

Heheh!!! This ain't gonna work. These devices are designed to mirror mobo
slots. They have extra blades that must be inserted into the mobo in order
to work. Of course, I think it would be possible to daisy chain a bunch of
them together and loop their extra blades of each riser card back into the
the slots on the next riser card, thus directing all PCI bus traffic from
one card to the next instead of to the extra mobo slots. I decided to have
some fun and got the tech support people at this company all freaked out
when I told them that I was going to try this and asked what their return
policy was. Calls were made from lower tier to upper tier techies within
the heirarchy. They were genuinely alarmed. I don't think they will forget
me for a while.

I love the smell of burning PCB in the morning.

;o)

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:4641d4ef$1@linux...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdAKgJDahzw
>
> TCB
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>> http://www.circotech.com/rack-mount-case-rack-mount-accssori es-2urisercards.html
>>
>>I can already see my plans to invest in a 64 bit ($2k) PCIe>PCI expansion
>
>>chassis growing wings and flying away.......maybe.
>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: Hmmmm........OK......this is cool stuff [message #84228 is a reply to message #84226]

Wed, 09 May 2007 10:32

Dimitrios

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Registered: August 2005

Senior Member

>I don't think they will forget
me for a while.

What make you believe that we will forget you either ??
:)
Regards,
Dimitrios

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Re: Hmmmm........OK......this is cool stuff [message #84232 is a reply to message #84228]

Wed, 09 May 2007 10:51

Deej [4]

Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007

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"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:464205ca$1@linux...
>
>>I don't think they will forget
> me for a while.
>
> What make you believe that we will forget you either ??
> :)
> Regards,
> Dimitrios

Heh!...I still think there might be a way to make this work, but it might
cost just about as much as it would cost to buy the damn 64 bit GE Fanuc
expansion chassis I've been looking at.

I'm going to look into building a 64 bit expansion chassis using a
backplane, PSU and host cards. I've got an old Magma case here with a dead
backp-lane. It's ATX, but the back of it would have to be modified
................I'm thinking chain saw and dynamite.

Here's a link to a 32 bit DIY but it's ridiculously expensive considering
the fact that we can buy 13 slot Magma's for less these days.
http://www.cyberresearch.com/store/computer-accessories-pc-p eripherals/bus-adapters-expansion-chassis/PRO_600_3227.2.htm

I called them and told them what I wanted. They told me that I could e-mail
the specs of the box that I needed and they could have one built. This would
likely cost the same as the GE Fanuc (formerly SBS) 64 bit chassis so that's
a dead end.

Surely there's a 64 bit option that can be sourced somewhere.

;o)

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Re: Hmmmm........OK......this is cool stuff [message #84233 is a reply to message #84200]

Wed, 09 May 2007 11:06

Carl Amburn

Messages: 214
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

I bought my computer rack case from these guys a couple of years ago. They
were pretty on the ball.

-Carl

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46415118@linux...
>
http://www.circotech.com/rack-mount-case-rack-mount-accssori es-2urisercards.
html
>
> I can already see my plans to invest in a 64 bit ($2k) PCIe>PCI expansion
> chassis growing wings and flying away.......maybe.
>
>
>

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