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Current cost of Paris 3.0 [message #104420] Sun, 20 December 2009 12:58 Go to next message
rsi77 is currently offline  rsi77   UNITED STATES
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Hi all,

I may be putting together a new system so as to have a separate tracking (live) and mixing setup. What is the current cost of Paris 3.0?

Also, can 2.2 run on XP? I thought not but wasn't sure. My tracking system doesn't need 3.0, but the computer I want to use is already loaded with XP.

Thanks,

Ron
Re: Current cost of Paris 3.0 [message #104421 is a reply to message #104420] Sun, 20 December 2009 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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PARIS 2.2 runs on XP with no problems. 3.0 adds a lot of great features. The price of V3 is $295, unchanged since 2001.

V3.0's cost in 2001 represented about 10% of the price of a Bundle 3; that was definitely good value. Today the market value of a Bundle 3 has dropped by 90%, yet the price of 3.0 software hasn't. The fact that V3.0 now costs as much as the hardware it runs on has completely rewritten the market equation. Today, if you want V3.0, the forum's recommendation is to shop for a used Bundle 3 with a transferable V3 license instead, and 1) double your live tracks 2) double your live mixer channels, 3) double your live FX and 4) double your live i/o - all for more or less the same money.

Think of it as paying full price for the software but getting a free (or dirt cheap) Bundle 3 thrown in too.

I'm not meaning to bust the chops of anyone at Intelligent Devices, but given those market realities they need to get on the ball on this.


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Re: Current cost of Paris 3.0 [message #104422 is a reply to message #104421] Sun, 20 December 2009 14:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rsi77 is currently offline  rsi77   UNITED STATES
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Thanks for the quick response...next question:
Do the new drivers work with v 2.2?

If not, do I only need the Scherzo driver on the EMU website to make 2.2 work with XP, or do I need something else.

Thanks,

Ron
Re: Current cost of Paris 3.0 [message #104428 is a reply to message #104422] Sun, 20 December 2009 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Hey Ron - you'll definitely need specific XP drivers, not just the ones on the EMU site. If you're on an older single-core CPU you can use the old (free) ones - they've been a mainstay of PC-using PARISians for five years now. But if you want to use a more modern multicore/multiprocessor CPU, you'll definitely be wanting Mike Audet's drivers. They cost $50 and they offer significant bugfixes and general stability improvements - but I think they'd be worth that much just for the tech support. I believe 2.2 works fine with Mike's drivers.

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Re: Current cost of Paris 3.0 [message #104612 is a reply to message #104421] Sat, 16 January 2010 07:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kkeough88 is currently offline  kkeough88   UNITED STATES
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Hi I have Paris 3.0

How do I transfer the license if someone wants to buy the software from me?
Re: Current cost of Paris 3.0 [message #104616 is a reply to message #104612] Sat, 16 January 2010 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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I don't know how it's supposed to be done properly, but when I've done it myself it was via two emails. Seller notifies ID via email that they're selling/transferring their license (and deleting it from their own HD) and who to. The purchaser then contacts ID via email and lets them know they've bought the license, and who from. ID updates their database. After that, the purchaser boots 3.0, gets the challenge code offered to them at first boot, and emails it in to ID who then sends the appropriate response code.

Without the response code being entered the PARIS 3.0 app goes into a seven day demo period and then expires. So you might want to remind your purchaser not to boot 3.0 until they're ready to get the challenge/response underway.

I seem to recall ID sets one day per week aside for maintaining PARIS licenses. Your purchaser probably won't want to get caught with an expired 3.0 demo with no code and projects saved in 3.0 format (which aren't backwards compatible) so they'd probably be best to boot it and get the challenge code at the beginning of the week. If all goes well they should have the response code from ID well before the demo period expires.


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Re: Current cost of Paris 3.0 [message #104819 is a reply to message #104616] Fri, 19 February 2010 00:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rokuez is currently offline  rokuez   UNITED STATES
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kerryg wrote on Sat, 16 January 2010 12:08
I don't know how it's supposed to be done properly, but when I've done it myself it was via two emails. Seller notifies ID via email that they're selling/transferring their license (and deleting it from their own HD) and who to. The purchaser then contacts ID via email and lets them know they've bought the license, and who from. ID updates their database. After that, the purchaser boots 3.0, gets the challenge code offered to them at first boot, and emails it in to ID who then sends the appropriate response code.

Without the response code being entered the PARIS 3.0 app goes into a seven day demo period and then expires. So you might want to remind your purchaser not to boot 3.0 until they're ready to get the challenge/response underway.

I seem to recall ID sets one day per week aside for maintaining PARIS licenses. Your purchaser probably won't want to get caught with an expired 3.0 demo with no code and projects saved in 3.0 format (which aren't backwards compatible) so they'd probably be best to boot it and get the challenge code at the beginning of the week. If all goes well they should have the response code from ID well before the demo period expires.


here is the email to use to transfer license

support at intdevices diggity-dot com


E-mu Emulator User Forum

www.eiiiforum.com
Re: Current cost of Paris 3.0 [message #104821 is a reply to message #104819] Sat, 20 February 2010 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
temetrepo is currently offline  temetrepo   UNITED STATES
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I recently submitted a challenge code on a thursday for version 3 and got my response code 2 hours later the same day.
Re: Current cost of Paris 3.0 [message #104823 is a reply to message #104821] Sat, 20 February 2010 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kerryg is currently offline  kerryg   CANADA
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Thought so - there have been anecdotal reports of folks experiencing delays, but ID's definitely still supplying and maintaining challenge codes. Enjoy 3.0, it's a significant upgrade, and 3.0 will let you take advantage of a pretty big advance that just arrived (I'll post a separate thread).

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Re: Current cost of Paris 3.0 [message #104824 is a reply to message #104823] Sat, 20 February 2010 14:07 Go to previous message
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thanks, waiting for that other thread Very Happy
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