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The Red Hot Chili Peppers have been accused of plagiarism [message #69038] Tue, 06 June 2006 23:17 Go to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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I saw this on gearslutz.com, thought it was kind of interesting. Check out
the MP3.

http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=73062&highli ght


http://www.jared-morris.com/blog/petty.mp3
Re: The Red Hot Chili Peppers have been accused of plagiarism [message #69039 is a reply to message #69038] Tue, 06 June 2006 23:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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They're just 'now' figuring that out?
They need to go back to Dobey Grey/Drift Away and then 4 non blondes/what's
going on.
This is definitely not a new thing, and as a cover band dude I poke fun at
it every chance I get when songs are just a liiiittle too similar. Guys like
Wierd Al made a career of this kind of blunder.

However, I don't think other than the verse chord progression it's
plausible, personally. It's obvious he screwed with the tempo to me, Mary
Jane was slower than what was represented IIRC.
What I find most funny is when a band (and one was posted here a few years
ago) does a parody of it's OWN material and tried to pass it off as the next
'hit'.
Some of you may remember that one.

AA


"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I saw this on gearslutz.com, thought it was kind of interesting. Check
> out
> the MP3.
>
> http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=73062&highli ght
>
>
> http://www.jared-morris.com/blog/petty.mp3


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Re: The Red Hot Chili Peppers have been accused of plagiarism [message #69042 is a reply to message #69039] Wed, 07 June 2006 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
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"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:

>What I find most funny is when a band (and one was posted here >a few years
ago) does a parody of it's OWN material and tried
>to pass it off as the next 'hit'. Some of you may remember
>that one.

Yep, that was Nickelback ripping themselves off, wasn't it?

In checking out that thread, I noticed one guy joked that he
had written a song that sounded like one of his older songs,
and he was planning litigation against himself... I wonder if
he's aware of the John Fogerty suit that involved the CCR
tune "Run Through the Jungle", and the later Fogerty solo
hit "Old Man Down the Road" - when the rights-holders for "Run
Through the Jungle" sued Fogerty over "Old Man...", it was
essentially Fogerty suing himself since he wrote both songs.

I also noticed that a couple of those guys in that thread were
pretty critical of the RHCP's musical abilities... I found that
to be strange, because although I'm not what you'd consider a
fan of their music, I've always thought that Frusciante, Flea,
and the drummer (can't recall his name) are pretty good players.

Neil
Re: The Red Hot Chili Peppers have been accused of plagiarism [message #69047 is a reply to message #69042] Wed, 07 June 2006 07:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Chad Smith last time I looked - which has been a while. However, the last
great album of theirs IMO was Blood Sugar Sex Magic.
AA

"Neil" <OIUIOU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4486c856$1@linux...
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
>>What I find most funny is when a band (and one was posted here >a few
>>years
> ago) does a parody of it's OWN material and tried
>>to pass it off as the next 'hit'. Some of you may remember
>>that one.
>
> Yep, that was Nickelback ripping themselves off, wasn't it?
>
> In checking out that thread, I noticed one guy joked that he
> had written a song that sounded like one of his older songs,
> and he was planning litigation against himself... I wonder if
> he's aware of the John Fogerty suit that involved the CCR
> tune "Run Through the Jungle", and the later Fogerty solo
> hit "Old Man Down the Road" - when the rights-holders for "Run
> Through the Jungle" sued Fogerty over "Old Man...", it was
> essentially Fogerty suing himself since he wrote both songs.
>
> I also noticed that a couple of those guys in that thread were
> pretty critical of the RHCP's musical abilities... I found that
> to be strange, because although I'm not what you'd consider a
> fan of their music, I've always thought that Frusciante, Flea,
> and the drummer (can't recall his name) are pretty good players.
>
> Neil


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Re: The Red Hot Chili Peppers have been accused of plagiarism [message #69053 is a reply to message #69042] Wed, 07 June 2006 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
uptown jimmy is currently offline  uptown jimmy   UNITED STATES
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Fogerty certainly never sued himself. The fellow who sued him is named Saul
Zaentz. It's one of the three or so most sordid tales in all of music
history, just absolutely ugly.

Fogerty would probably have a stroke on the spot if he ever heard someone
say he sued himself. He lived a pretty miserable existence for decades as a
result of the whole thing.

Jimmy

"Neil" <OIUIOU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4486c856$1@linux...
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>
> >What I find most funny is when a band (and one was posted here >a few
years
> ago) does a parody of it's OWN material and tried
> >to pass it off as the next 'hit'. Some of you may remember
> >that one.
>
> Yep, that was Nickelback ripping themselves off, wasn't it?
>
> In checking out that thread, I noticed one guy joked that he
> had written a song that sounded like one of his older songs,
> and he was planning litigation against himself... I wonder if
> he's aware of the John Fogerty suit that involved the CCR
> tune "Run Through the Jungle", and the later Fogerty solo
> hit "Old Man Down the Road" - when the rights-holders for "Run
> Through the Jungle" sued Fogerty over "Old Man...", it was
> essentially Fogerty suing himself since he wrote both songs.
>
> I also noticed that a couple of those guys in that thread were
> pretty critical of the RHCP's musical abilities... I found that
> to be strange, because although I'm not what you'd consider a
> fan of their music, I've always thought that Frusciante, Flea,
> and the drummer (can't recall his name) are pretty good players.
>
> Neil
Re:A little perspective (RHCP) [message #69085 is a reply to message #69038] Thu, 08 June 2006 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
JB is currently offline  JB   UNITED STATES
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Let's get something straight. Neither Tom Petty nor his publishing company
have made any accusations. IMO, these are the only parties that could
possibly make a charge as this. The only person that seems to have a problem
with this is some low-life DJ with too much time on his hands. He even took
the time to match the tempos of the two songs to make them sound even more
similar. Its total BS.

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:44866f73$1@linux...
>
> I saw this on gearslutz.com, thought it was kind of interesting. Check
> out
> the MP3.
>
> http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=73062&highli ght
>
>
> http://www.jared-morris.com/blog/petty.mp3
Re: A little perspective (RHCP) [message #69170 is a reply to message #69038] Thu, 08 June 2006 06:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jp is currently offline  jp   UNITED STATES
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The only person accusing the RHCP od plagiarism is some DJ who had to alter
the speed of the song to prove his point. Neither Tom Petty nor his
publishing company have said a word. IMO, those are the only parties that
could make any accusation. It's BS.
Re: The Red Hot Chili Peppers have been accused of plagiarism [message #69175 is a reply to message #69053] Sun, 11 June 2006 09:11 Go to previous message
Miguel Vigil [1] is currently offline  Miguel Vigil [1]   UNITED STATES
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Very true, and very sad. Fogerty was in fact sued for sounding
exactly like John Fogerty which the complaintant claimed was
owned lock, stock and barrel.

El Miguel


"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:4486ff60$1@linux...
> Fogerty certainly never sued himself. The fellow who sued him is named
Saul
> Zaentz. It's one of the three or so most sordid tales in all of music
> history, just absolutely ugly.
>
> Fogerty would probably have a stroke on the spot if he ever heard someone
> say he sued himself. He lived a pretty miserable existence for decades as
a
> result of the whole thing.
>
> Jimmy
>
> "Neil" <OIUIOU@OIU.com> wrote in message news:4486c856$1@linux...
> >
> > "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> >
> > >What I find most funny is when a band (and one was posted here >a few
> years
> > ago) does a parody of it's OWN material and tried
> > >to pass it off as the next 'hit'. Some of you may remember
> > >that one.
> >
> > Yep, that was Nickelback ripping themselves off, wasn't it?
> >
> > In checking out that thread, I noticed one guy joked that he
> > had written a song that sounded like one of his older songs,
> > and he was planning litigation against himself... I wonder if
> > he's aware of the John Fogerty suit that involved the CCR
> > tune "Run Through the Jungle", and the later Fogerty solo
> > hit "Old Man Down the Road" - when the rights-holders for "Run
> > Through the Jungle" sued Fogerty over "Old Man...", it was
> > essentially Fogerty suing himself since he wrote both songs.
> >
> > I also noticed that a couple of those guys in that thread were
> > pretty critical of the RHCP's musical abilities... I found that
> > to be strange, because although I'm not what you'd consider a
> > fan of their music, I've always thought that Frusciante, Flea,
> > and the drummer (can't recall his name) are pretty good players.
> >
> > Neil
>
>
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