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| Re: Cubase 4.1.2 is out [message #96029 is a reply to message #96028] |
Sat, 16 February 2008 10:51   |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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Fwiw - I'm on 4.1.2 of Nuendo, and haven't seen any of these bugs.
The UAD spikes issue is caused by loading up a UAD card, with UAD-1 plugins
on VSTi outputs, then turning plugins on and off rapidly during playback -
something I never do. It's a bug to some degree, but one that you will only
see if you "torture" your DAW by inserting, removing, or enabling/disabling
high latency plugins during playback, which will obviously cause playback
dropouts and glitches (native linear phase and convolution plugins might
cause it as well). My assertion on this thread on the Nuendo forum was that
it's caused by a bug in PDC's recovery, brought on by plugins with high
latency (dsp cards esp. since there are timing issues associated with PCI
bus transfers; but also convolution, and linear phase plugins with look
ahead algorithms). Avoid turning these plugins on/off during playback (I
had to do this rapidly for over a minute to cause the spike), and you will
likely never see it unless there are other timing issues with your system
that make the scenario worse, imho.
No hanging notes here - I've had issues with a long, rogue midi note being
written into a track from time to time, but that's been an issue since 3.x.
No VSTi dropped notes - and I use a lot of VSTi's with large templates
(300-400 midi tracks) and high memory allocation.
Plugin compatibility: I have 3 plugins that aren't compatible with N4, and
all are due to developers not following, or misinterpreting the VST 2.4 or
3.0 specs since other plugins work perfectly fine, including versions from
the same developers.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:47b73020$1@linux...
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> http://www.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=91363
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> VSTi dropped notes bug
> freeze bugs
> MP3 export, samplerate and tags.
> Halion One not triggered by certain pad controllers.
> panning issues with VSTs
> hanging notes
> UAD Causing Spikes
> Waveforms Inaccurately Displayed.
> Large Amount Of Plugin Compatibility Issues.
> Midi Receiving Plugins Not Holding Onto Midi routings.
> Freeze Inflexible.
>
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| Re: Cubase 4.1.2 is out [message #96030 is a reply to message #96029] |
Sat, 16 February 2008 10:53 |
Deej [5]
Messages: 373
Registered: March 2008
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No hanging notes here - I've had issues with a long, rogue midi note being
written into a track from time to time, but that's been an issue since 3.x.
I had that happen during a session the other day. I had midi input set to
"all". I changed it to the specific input that was interfacing with the
controller.......no more problem.
"Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:47b733d7@linux...
> Fwiw - I'm on 4.1.2 of Nuendo, and haven't seen any of these bugs.
>
> The UAD spikes issue is caused by loading up a UAD card, with UAD-1
> plugins on VSTi outputs, then turning plugins on and off rapidly during
> playback - something I never do. It's a bug to some degree, but one that
> you will only see if you "torture" your DAW by inserting, removing, or
> enabling/disabling high latency plugins during playback, which will
> obviously cause playback dropouts and glitches (native linear phase and
> convolution plugins might cause it as well). My assertion on this thread
> on the Nuendo forum was that it's caused by a bug in PDC's recovery,
> brought on by plugins with high latency (dsp cards esp. since there are
> timing issues associated with PCI bus transfers; but also convolution, and
> linear phase plugins with look ahead algorithms). Avoid turning these
> plugins on/off during playback (I had to do this rapidly for over a minute
> to cause the spike), and you will likely never see it unless there are
> other timing issues with your system that make the scenario worse, imho.
>
> No hanging notes here - I've had issues with a long, rogue midi note being
> written into a track from time to time, but that's been an issue since
> 3.x.
>
> No VSTi dropped notes - and I use a lot of VSTi's with large templates
> (300-400 midi tracks) and high memory allocation.
>
> Plugin compatibility: I have 3 plugins that aren't compatible with N4,
> and all are due to developers not following, or misinterpreting the VST
> 2.4 or 3.0 specs since other plugins work perfectly fine, including
> versions from the same developers.
>
> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:47b73020$1@linux...
>>
>> http://www.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=91363
>>
>> VSTi dropped notes bug
>> freeze bugs
>> MP3 export, samplerate and tags.
>> Halion One not triggered by certain pad controllers.
>> panning issues with VSTs
>> hanging notes
>> UAD Causing Spikes
>> Waveforms Inaccurately Displayed.
>> Large Amount Of Plugin Compatibility Issues.
>> Midi Receiving Plugins Not Holding Onto Midi routings.
>> Freeze Inflexible.
>>
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| Re: Cubase 4.1.2 is out [message #96031 is a reply to message #96030] |
Sat, 16 February 2008 11:19 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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That's pretty much the reason I think, as I am using "All inputs" simply due
to needing
several controllers active for different uses. Shouldn't happen unless
there's a bad controller
online, but I should be seeing it with one of the controllers if that's the
case.
I need to test this with Samplitude and Sonar just to see if it's a
Nuendo/Cubase problem, or a fact
of MIDI being a prehistoric and sloppy protocol.
"Deej" <noway@jose.net> wrote in message news:47b7346f$1@linux...
> No hanging notes here - I've had issues with a long, rogue midi note being
> written into a track from time to time, but that's been an issue since
> 3.x.
>
> I had that happen during a session the other day. I had midi input set to
> "all". I changed it to the specific input that was interfacing with the
> controller.......no more problem.
>
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote in message news:47b733d7@linux...
>> Fwiw - I'm on 4.1.2 of Nuendo, and haven't seen any of these bugs.
>>
>> The UAD spikes issue is caused by loading up a UAD card, with UAD-1
>> plugins on VSTi outputs, then turning plugins on and off rapidly during
>> playback - something I never do. It's a bug to some degree, but one that
>> you will only see if you "torture" your DAW by inserting, removing, or
>> enabling/disabling high latency plugins during playback, which will
>> obviously cause playback dropouts and glitches (native linear phase and
>> convolution plugins might cause it as well). My assertion on this thread
>> on the Nuendo forum was that it's caused by a bug in PDC's recovery,
>> brought on by plugins with high latency (dsp cards esp. since there are
>> timing issues associated with PCI bus transfers; but also convolution,
>> and linear phase plugins with look ahead algorithms). Avoid turning
>> these plugins on/off during playback (I had to do this rapidly for over a
>> minute to cause the spike), and you will likely never see it unless there
>> are other timing issues with your system that make the scenario worse,
>> imho.
>>
>> No hanging notes here - I've had issues with a long, rogue midi note
>> being written into a track from time to time, but that's been an issue
>> since 3.x.
>>
>> No VSTi dropped notes - and I use a lot of VSTi's with large templates
>> (300-400 midi tracks) and high memory allocation.
>>
>> Plugin compatibility: I have 3 plugins that aren't compatible with N4,
>> and all are due to developers not following, or misinterpreting the VST
>> 2.4 or 3.0 specs since other plugins work perfectly fine, including
>> versions from the same developers.
>>
>> "John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:47b73020$1@linux...
>>>
>>> http://www.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=91363
>>>
>>> VSTi dropped notes bug
>>> freeze bugs
>>> MP3 export, samplerate and tags.
>>> Halion One not triggered by certain pad controllers.
>>> panning issues with VSTs
>>> hanging notes
>>> UAD Causing Spikes
>>> Waveforms Inaccurately Displayed.
>>> Large Amount Of Plugin Compatibility Issues.
>>> Midi Receiving Plugins Not Holding Onto Midi routings.
>>> Freeze Inflexible.
>>>
>>
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