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| A tale of two Dells - need advice [message #84282] |
Thu, 10 May 2007 19:47  |
Paul Braun
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OK, so I've decided to switch my mixing rig from Mac to XP - I want
more power and available stuff than the OS9 boot limitations will
allow me. (Still using a G4 for the live tracking rig, though. I
know for a fact that I can record 16 tracks for 2 hours straight with
no burps - I trust that.)
I was toying with building a pc for that, when suddenly I'm faced with
two free Dell P4 boxen.
Free is good.
I'm going to use one, and set one up for a friend as a household
computer - so, I need advice on which would be better for Paris.
One is a Dimension 4400 - P4 2GHZ, 512 cache, 400MHz FSB
The other is an Optiplex 260GX - same chip.
Both are full-sized towers.
So, essentially, I have to choose between the Dimension, which is
aimed for the home market, and the Optiplex, which is aimed at the
business market.
Suggestions?
pab
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| Re: A tale of two Dells - need advice [message #84283 is a reply to message #84282] |
Thu, 10 May 2007 19:54  |
JeffH
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Paul
Probably want to stick with the Dimension. I'm not sure of current
models, but older models of the optiplex use a riser card for slots.
Had issues getting my original Paris rig to run on one (but that was a
few years back).
The downside of the Dimension is all the consumer software they drop
onboard ( although it's started to invade the Optiplex line as well).
Plan some time to sit in Add/ Remove Programs and uninstall unneeded SW
(or wipe it and start fresh if it still comes with real XP CD)...and yes
go XP.
JH
Braun wrote:
> OK, so I've decided to switch my mixing rig from Mac to XP - I want
> more power and available stuff than the OS9 boot limitations will
> allow me. (Still using a G4 for the live tracking rig, though. I
> know for a fact that I can record 16 tracks for 2 hours straight with
> no burps - I trust that.)
>
> I was toying with building a pc for that, when suddenly I'm faced with
> two free Dell P4 boxen.
>
> Free is good.
>
> I'm going to use one, and set one up for a friend as a household
> computer - so, I need advice on which would be better for Paris.
>
> One is a Dimension 4400 - P4 2GHZ, 512 cache, 400MHz FSB
>
> The other is an Optiplex 260GX - same chip.
>
> Both are full-sized towers.
>
> So, essentially, I have to choose between the Dimension, which is
> aimed for the home market, and the Optiplex, which is aimed at the
> business market.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> pab
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| Re: A tale of two Dells - need advice [message #84294 is a reply to message #84283] |
Thu, 10 May 2007 23:12 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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I have a few of the 260's at my work. Good box - better than the Dimension
series - however with either of them you will probably have trouble feeding
power hungry EDS cards. 1 should fly, 2 will be questionable and 3 probably
won't run IME. Call dell to see if you can get a higher output power supply
(they are proprietary and you have to get them from Dell) ... Opti will
have a better chance of it. There is also a parts issues. They guarantee you
can get any part in the opti for 5 years after purchase... you might just be
SOL with a dimension.
In either case make SURE you get the original factory disk. Pull the disk
out, put it in a USB case and fdisk/format it on another computer. There is
a FAT partition on Dell's that's a pain in the ass to deal with unless you
know how to bust into the boot.ini file and tell it to quit adding partition
information. Use the factory install CD.. Then, uninstall the junk you don't
want. The Opti likely came with XP SP1.... if you are going audio only, do
NOT install SP2. As with any solid/stable audio box, don't connect it to
the internet.
AA
"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
news:4643dc67$1@linux...
> Paul
>
> Probably want to stick with the Dimension. I'm not sure of current
> models, but older models of the optiplex use a riser card for slots. Had
> issues getting my original Paris rig to run on one (but that was a few
> years back).
>
> The downside of the Dimension is all the consumer software they drop
> onboard ( although it's started to invade the Optiplex line as well). Plan
> some time to sit in Add/ Remove Programs and uninstall unneeded SW (or
> wipe it and start fresh if it still comes with real XP CD)...and yes go
> XP.
>
> JH
>
> Braun wrote:
>> OK, so I've decided to switch my mixing rig from Mac to XP - I want
>> more power and available stuff than the OS9 boot limitations will
>> allow me. (Still using a G4 for the live tracking rig, though. I
>> know for a fact that I can record 16 tracks for 2 hours straight with
>> no burps - I trust that.)
>>
>> I was toying with building a pc for that, when suddenly I'm faced with
>> two free Dell P4 boxen.
>>
>> Free is good.
>>
>> I'm going to use one, and set one up for a friend as a household
>> computer - so, I need advice on which would be better for Paris.
>>
>> One is a Dimension 4400 - P4 2GHZ, 512 cache, 400MHz FSB
>>
>> The other is an Optiplex 260GX - same chip.
>>
>> Both are full-sized towers.
>>
>> So, essentially, I have to choose between the Dimension, which is
>> aimed for the home market, and the Optiplex, which is aimed at the
>> business market.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>>
>> pab
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| Re: A tale of two Dells - need advice [message #84296 is a reply to message #84294] |
Thu, 10 May 2007 23:29 |
excelav
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Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>I have a few of the 260's at my work. Good box - better than the Dimension
>series - however with either of them you will probably have trouble feeding
>power hungry EDS cards. 1 should fly, 2 will be questionable and 3 probably
>won't run IME. Call dell to see if you can get a higher output power supply
>(they are proprietary and you have to get them from Dell) ... Opti will
>have a better chance of it. There is also a parts issues. They guarantee
you
>can get any part in the opti for 5 years after purchase... you might just
be
>SOL with a dimension.
>
>In either case make SURE you get the original factory disk. Pull the disk
>out, put it in a USB case and fdisk/format it on another computer. There
is
>a FAT partition on Dell's that's a pain in the ass to deal with unless you
>know how to bust into the boot.ini file and tell it to quit adding partition
>information. Use the factory install CD.. Then, uninstall the junk you don't
>want. The Opti likely came with XP SP1.... if you are going audio only,
do
>NOT install SP2. As with any solid/stable audio box, don't connect it to
>the internet.
>
>AA
>
>>As with any solid/stable audio box, don't connect it to
>the internet.<<
Unless it's a Mac; )
>
>"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
>news:4643dc67$1@linux...
>> Paul
>>
>> Probably want to stick with the Dimension. I'm not sure of current
>> models, but older models of the optiplex use a riser card for slots. Had
>> issues getting my original Paris rig to run on one (but that was a few
>> years back).
>>
>> The downside of the Dimension is all the consumer software they drop
>> onboard ( although it's started to invade the Optiplex line as well).
Plan
>> some time to sit in Add/ Remove Programs and uninstall unneeded SW (or
>> wipe it and start fresh if it still comes with real XP CD)...and yes go
>> XP.
>>
>> JH
>>
>> Braun wrote:
>>> OK, so I've decided to switch my mixing rig from Mac to XP - I want
>>> more power and available stuff than the OS9 boot limitations will
>>> allow me. (Still using a G4 for the live tracking rig, though. I
>>> know for a fact that I can record 16 tracks for 2 hours straight with
>>> no burps - I trust that.)
>>>
>>> I was toying with building a pc for that, when suddenly I'm faced with
>>> two free Dell P4 boxen.
>>>
>>> Free is good.
>>>
>>> I'm going to use one, and set one up for a friend as a household
>>> computer - so, I need advice on which would be better for Paris.
>>>
>>> One is a Dimension 4400 - P4 2GHZ, 512 cache, 400MHz FSB
>>>
>>> The other is an Optiplex 260GX - same chip.
>>>
>>> Both are full-sized towers.
>>>
>>> So, essentially, I have to choose between the Dimension, which is
>>> aimed for the home market, and the Optiplex, which is aimed at the
>>> business market.
>>>
>>> Suggestions?
>>>
>>> pab
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| Re: A tale of two Dells - need advice [message #84300 is a reply to message #84294] |
Fri, 11 May 2007 05:52 |
Paul Braun
Messages: 391
Registered: September 2005
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On Fri, 11 May 2007 01:12:04 -0500, "Aaron Allen"
<know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>I have a few of the 260's at my work. Good box - better than the Dimension
>series - however with either of them you will probably have trouble feeding
>power hungry EDS cards. 1 should fly, 2 will be questionable and 3 probably
>won't run IME. Call dell to see if you can get a higher output power supply
>(they are proprietary and you have to get them from Dell) ... Opti will
>have a better chance of it. There is also a parts issues. They guarantee you
>can get any part in the opti for 5 years after purchase... you might just be
>SOL with a dimension.
>
>In either case make SURE you get the original factory disk. Pull the disk
>out, put it in a USB case and fdisk/format it on another computer. There is
>a FAT partition on Dell's that's a pain in the ass to deal with unless you
>know how to bust into the boot.ini file and tell it to quit adding partition
>information. Use the factory install CD.. Then, uninstall the junk you don't
>want. The Opti likely came with XP SP1.... if you are going audio only, do
>NOT install SP2. As with any solid/stable audio box, don't connect it to
>the internet.
>
>AA
Thanks. It won't be going online - aside from being connected to my
home lan for file transfer. Other than that, I have several other
pc's for net access.
Right now, I'm only running one EDS card, so I should be cool.
However, I'll call Dell and see if I can bump the psu up. Yeah, I
know they're some funky proprietary thing. I hate that about Dell.
Didn't know about skipping sp2 - good to know.
I do know about the funky fat partition - I've Dellt (hah! I crack me
up sometimes....) with that before. On the pc I set up for my wife, I
just used a straight non-Dell copy of XP, completely fdisked the HD,
and let Windows make one partition.
If I need to go with 2 or 3 cards eventually, I will by that point
have enough back in the toy fund to most likely just build a custom
box to run stuff on.
Between that and rackmounting my Oasys G4, it looks like it's time to
add another rack to my basement....
pab
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| Re: A tale of two Dells - need advice [message #84304 is a reply to message #84296] |
Fri, 11 May 2007 07:11 |
TCB
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Security by obscurity, James, which is barely security at all.
TCB
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>I have a few of the 260's at my work. Good box - better than the Dimension
>
>>series - however with either of them you will probably have trouble feeding
>
>>power hungry EDS cards. 1 should fly, 2 will be questionable and 3 probably
>
>>won't run IME. Call dell to see if you can get a higher output power supply
>
>>(they are proprietary and you have to get them from Dell) ... Opti will
>
>>have a better chance of it. There is also a parts issues. They guarantee
>you
>>can get any part in the opti for 5 years after purchase... you might just
>be
>>SOL with a dimension.
>>
>>In either case make SURE you get the original factory disk. Pull the disk
>
>>out, put it in a USB case and fdisk/format it on another computer. There
>is
>>a FAT partition on Dell's that's a pain in the ass to deal with unless
you
>
>>know how to bust into the boot.ini file and tell it to quit adding partition
>
>>information. Use the factory install CD.. Then, uninstall the junk you
don't
>
>>want. The Opti likely came with XP SP1.... if you are going audio only,
>do
>>NOT install SP2. As with any solid/stable audio box, don't connect it
to
>
>>the internet.
>>
>>AA
>>
>
>>>As with any solid/stable audio box, don't connect it to
>>the internet.<<
>
>
>Unless it's a Mac; )
>
>
>>
>>"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
>>news:4643dc67$1@linux...
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Probably want to stick with the Dimension. I'm not sure of current
>>> models, but older models of the optiplex use a riser card for slots.
Had
>
>>> issues getting my original Paris rig to run on one (but that was a few
>
>>> years back).
>>>
>>> The downside of the Dimension is all the consumer software they drop
>>> onboard ( although it's started to invade the Optiplex line as well).
>Plan
>>> some time to sit in Add/ Remove Programs and uninstall unneeded SW (or
>
>>> wipe it and start fresh if it still comes with real XP CD)...and yes
go
>
>>> XP.
>>>
>>> JH
>>>
>>> Braun wrote:
>>>> OK, so I've decided to switch my mixing rig from Mac to XP - I want
>>>> more power and available stuff than the OS9 boot limitations will
>>>> allow me. (Still using a G4 for the live tracking rig, though. I
>>>> know for a fact that I can record 16 tracks for 2 hours straight with
>>>> no burps - I trust that.)
>>>>
>>>> I was toying with building a pc for that, when suddenly I'm faced with
>>>> two free Dell P4 boxen.
>>>>
>>>> Free is good.
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to use one, and set one up for a friend as a household
>>>> computer - so, I need advice on which would be better for Paris.
>>>>
>>>> One is a Dimension 4400 - P4 2GHZ, 512 cache, 400MHz FSB
>>>>
>>>> The other is an Optiplex 260GX - same chip.
>>>>
>>>> Both are full-sized towers.
>>>>
>>>> So, essentially, I have to choose between the Dimension, which is
>>>> aimed for the home market, and the Optiplex, which is aimed at the
>>>> business market.
>>>>
>>>> Suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> pab
>>
>>
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| Re: A tale of two Dells - need advice [message #84305 is a reply to message #84304] |
Fri, 11 May 2007 07:09 |
Jamie K
Messages: 1115
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So you don't agree with Aaron's advice, Thad?
Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com
TCB wrote:
> Security by obscurity, James, which is barely security at all.
>
> TCB
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>> I have a few of the 260's at my work. Good box - better than the Dimension
>>> series - however with either of them you will probably have trouble feeding
>>> power hungry EDS cards. 1 should fly, 2 will be questionable and 3 probably
>>> won't run IME. Call dell to see if you can get a higher output power supply
>>> (they are proprietary and you have to get them from Dell) ... Opti will
>>> have a better chance of it. There is also a parts issues. They guarantee
>> you
>>> can get any part in the opti for 5 years after purchase... you might just
>> be
>>> SOL with a dimension.
>>>
>>> In either case make SURE you get the original factory disk. Pull the disk
>>> out, put it in a USB case and fdisk/format it on another computer. There
>> is
>>> a FAT partition on Dell's that's a pain in the ass to deal with unless
> you
>>> know how to bust into the boot.ini file and tell it to quit adding partition
>>> information. Use the factory install CD.. Then, uninstall the junk you
> don't
>>> want. The Opti likely came with XP SP1.... if you are going audio only,
>> do
>>> NOT install SP2. As with any solid/stable audio box, don't connect it
> to
>>> the internet.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>> As with any solid/stable audio box, don't connect it to
>>> the internet.<<
>>
>> Unless it's a Mac; )
>>
>>
>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4643dc67$1@linux...
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> Probably want to stick with the Dimension. I'm not sure of current
>>>> models, but older models of the optiplex use a riser card for slots.
> Had
>>>> issues getting my original Paris rig to run on one (but that was a few
>>>> years back).
>>>>
>>>> The downside of the Dimension is all the consumer software they drop
>
>>>> onboard ( although it's started to invade the Optiplex line as well).
>> Plan
>>>> some time to sit in Add/ Remove Programs and uninstall unneeded SW (or
>>>> wipe it and start fresh if it still comes with real XP CD)...and yes
> go
>>>> XP.
>>>>
>>>> JH
>>>>
>>>> Braun wrote:
>>>>> OK, so I've decided to switch my mixing rig from Mac to XP - I want
>>>>> more power and available stuff than the OS9 boot limitations will
>>>>> allow me. (Still using a G4 for the live tracking rig, though. I
>>>>> know for a fact that I can record 16 tracks for 2 hours straight with
>>>>> no burps - I trust that.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I was toying with building a pc for that, when suddenly I'm faced with
>>>>> two free Dell P4 boxen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Free is good.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to use one, and set one up for a friend as a household
>>>>> computer - so, I need advice on which would be better for Paris.
>>>>>
>>>>> One is a Dimension 4400 - P4 2GHZ, 512 cache, 400MHz FSB
>>>>>
>>>>> The other is an Optiplex 260GX - same chip.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both are full-sized towers.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, essentially, I have to choose between the Dimension, which is
>>>>> aimed for the home market, and the Optiplex, which is aimed at the
>>>>> business market.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> pab
>>>
>
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| Re: A tale of two Dells - need advice [message #84309 is a reply to message #84304] |
Fri, 11 May 2007 08:27 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
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My comment was totally tung in cheek, but true. With 12 Macs 13 years on
the internet, no viruses! I'd say, that is reasonably secure. I know many
Mac users that have had a similar experience. Mac users don't have to worry
about going on the internet with their audio systems. I also know many PC
users that have had a completely different experience from Mac users.
I believe there are possible benefits in having a Paris system on a PC over
a Mac, if the latest VST plugins are important to you.
And as always, Aaron's advice was good advice!
James
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>Security by obscurity, James, which is barely security at all.
>
>TCB
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>I have a few of the 260's at my work. Good box - better than the Dimension
>>
>>>series - however with either of them you will probably have trouble feeding
>>
>>>power hungry EDS cards. 1 should fly, 2 will be questionable and 3 probably
>>
>>>won't run IME. Call dell to see if you can get a higher output power supply
>>
>>>(they are proprietary and you have to get them from Dell) ... Opti will
>>
>>>have a better chance of it. There is also a parts issues. They guarantee
>>you
>>>can get any part in the opti for 5 years after purchase... you might just
>>be
>>>SOL with a dimension.
>>>
>>>In either case make SURE you get the original factory disk. Pull the disk
>>
>>>out, put it in a USB case and fdisk/format it on another computer. There
>>is
>>>a FAT partition on Dell's that's a pain in the ass to deal with unless
>you
>>
>>>know how to bust into the boot.ini file and tell it to quit adding partition
>>
>>>information. Use the factory install CD.. Then, uninstall the junk you
>don't
>>
>>>want. The Opti likely came with XP SP1.... if you are going audio only,
>>do
>>>NOT install SP2. As with any solid/stable audio box, don't connect it
>to
>>
>>>the internet.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>
>>>>As with any solid/stable audio box, don't connect it to
>>>the internet.<<
>>
>>
>>Unless it's a Mac; )
>>
>>
>>>
>>>"Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
>>>news:4643dc67$1@linux...
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> Probably want to stick with the Dimension. I'm not sure of current
>>>> models, but older models of the optiplex use a riser card for slots.
>Had
>>
>>>> issues getting my original Paris rig to run on one (but that was a few
>>
>>>> years back).
>>>>
>>>> The downside of the Dimension is all the consumer software they drop
>
>>>> onboard ( although it's started to invade the Optiplex line as well).
>>Plan
>>>> some time to sit in Add/ Remove Programs and uninstall unneeded SW (or
>>
>>>> wipe it and start fresh if it still comes with real XP CD)...and yes
>go
>>
>>>> XP.
>>>>
>>>> JH
>>>>
>>>> Braun wrote:
>>>>> OK, so I've decided to switch my mixing rig from Mac to XP - I want
>>>>> more power and available stuff than the OS9 boot limitations will
>>>>> allow me. (Still using a G4 for the live tracking rig, though. I
>>>>> know for a fact that I can record 16 tracks for 2 hours straight with
>>>>> no burps - I trust that.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I was toying with building a pc for that, when suddenly I'm faced with
>>>>> two free Dell P4 boxen.
>>>>>
>>>>> Free is good.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to use one, and set one up for a friend as a household
>>>>> computer - so, I need advice on which would be better for Paris.
>>>>>
>>>>> One is a Dimension 4400 - P4 2GHZ, 512 cache, 400MHz FSB
>>>>>
>>>>> The other is an Optiplex 260GX - same chip.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both are full-sized towers.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, essentially, I have to choose between the Dimension, which is
>>>>> aimed for the home market, and the Optiplex, which is aimed at the
>>>>> business market.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> pab
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: A tale of two Dells - need advice [message #84310 is a reply to message #84305] |
Fri, 11 May 2007 09:37 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
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We have tons of Dells, but we buy all Precision Workstations or servers. I
can't recommend either model over the other, but will agree that they tend
to underpower the power supply on all but their highest end hardware. And
EDS cards do like their juice.
TCB
Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>So you don't agree with Aaron's advice, Thad?
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>TCB wrote:
>> Security by obscurity, James, which is barely security at all.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>> I have a few of the 260's at my work. Good box - better than the Dimension
>>>> series - however with either of them you will probably have trouble
feeding
>>>> power hungry EDS cards. 1 should fly, 2 will be questionable and 3 probably
>>>> won't run IME. Call dell to see if you can get a higher output power
supply
>>>> (they are proprietary and you have to get them from Dell) ... Opti
will
>>>> have a better chance of it. There is also a parts issues. They guarantee
>>> you
>>>> can get any part in the opti for 5 years after purchase... you might
just
>>> be
>>>> SOL with a dimension.
>>>>
>>>> In either case make SURE you get the original factory disk. Pull the
disk
>>>> out, put it in a USB case and fdisk/format it on another computer. There
>>> is
>>>> a FAT partition on Dell's that's a pain in the ass to deal with unless
>> you
>>>> know how to bust into the boot.ini file and tell it to quit adding partition
>>>> information. Use the factory install CD.. Then, uninstall the junk you
>> don't
>>>> want. The Opti likely came with XP SP1.... if you are going audio only,
>>> do
>>>> NOT install SP2. As with any solid/stable audio box, don't connect
it
>> to
>>>> the internet.
>>>>
>>>> AA
>>>>
>>>>> As with any solid/stable audio box, don't connect it to
>>>> the internet.<<
>>>
>>> Unless it's a Mac; )
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Jeff Hoover" <jkhoover@excite.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4643dc67$1@linux...
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably want to stick with the Dimension. I'm not sure of current
>>>>> models, but older models of the optiplex use a riser card for slots.
>> Had
>>>>> issues getting my original Paris rig to run on one (but that was a
few
>>>>> years back).
>>>>>
>>>>> The downside of the Dimension is all the consumer software they drop
>>
>>>>> onboard ( although it's started to invade the Optiplex line as well).
>>> Plan
>>>>> some time to sit in Add/ Remove Programs and uninstall unneeded SW
(or
>>>>> wipe it and start fresh if it still comes with real XP CD)...and yes
>> go
>>>>> XP.
>>>>>
>>>>> JH
>>>>>
>>>>> Braun wrote:
>>>>>> OK, so I've decided to switch my mixing rig from Mac to XP - I want
>>>>>> more power and available stuff than the OS9 boot limitations will
>>>>>> allow me. (Still using a G4 for the live tracking rig, though. I
>>>>>> know for a fact that I can record 16 tracks for 2 hours straight with
>>>>>> no burps - I trust that.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was toying with building a pc for that, when suddenly I'm faced
with
>>>>>> two free Dell P4 boxen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Free is good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm going to use one, and set one up for a friend as a household
>>>>>> computer - so, I need advice on which would be better for Paris.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One is a Dimension 4400 - P4 2GHZ, 512 cache, 400MHz FSB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The other is an Optiplex 260GX - same chip.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both are full-sized towers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, essentially, I have to choose between the Dimension, which is
>>>>>> aimed for the home market, and the Optiplex, which is aimed at the
>>>>>> business market.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suggestions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pab
>>>>
>>
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