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Sat, 07 February 2009 06:38

Rob Russell

Messages: 18
Registered: March 2008

Junior Member

I thought I'd start a new thread to make it easier to find replies.
I tried to boost the gain on a track by clicking gain change under audio
in the editor window. All I get is a save as window with the file name. I
don't see anywhere to boost the gain.

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Re: Help with PARIS [message #102424 is a reply to message #102423]

Sat, 07 February 2009 07:20

Rob Russell

Messages: 18
Registered: March 2008

Junior Member

I figured it out.I needed to make a new file name to get to the Db setting.
All set with that now. I still need to work on getting patch cords from amps
to the 442 without mics.

"Rob Russell" <russellr@madriver.com> wrote:
>
>I thought I'd start a new thread to make it easier to find replies.
>I tried to boost the gain on a track by clicking gain change under audio
>in the editor window. All I get is a save as window with the file name.
I
>don't see anywhere to boost the gain.

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Re: Help with PARIS [message #102428 is a reply to message #102424]

Sat, 07 February 2009 10:25

Gantt Kushner

Messages: 545
Registered: June 2006
Location: Silver Spring, Maryland, ...

Senior Member

Do your amps have direct outputs? A guitar amp would need some sort of speaker
emulator to sound right. A bass amp w/ line out would work fine. You must
have a mixer of some sort... You can use that to get mic signal into the
442.

Gantt

"Rob Russell" <russellr@madriver.com> wrote:
>
>I figured it out.I needed to make a new file name to get to the Db setting.
>All set with that now. I still need to work on getting patch cords from
amps
>to the 442 without mics.
>
>"Rob Russell" <russellr@madriver.com> wrote:
>>
>>I thought I'd start a new thread to make it easier to find replies.
>>I tried to boost the gain on a track by clicking gain change under audio
>>in the editor window. All I get is a save as window with the file name.
>I
>>don't see anywhere to boost the gain.
>

Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com

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Re: Help with PARIS [message #102432 is a reply to message #102428]

Sat, 07 February 2009 13:38

Rob Russell

Messages: 18
Registered: March 2008

Junior Member

The bass amp has a line out but it is the 3 pin type that I have on my mic.
I'll have to get a special patch cord for that. The keyboard/acoustic amp
has a Patch socket on the front that says send/return pre eq,tip=send ring=return
sleeve=ground. When I tried that one it shut down the speaker in the amp
and I'm not sure if it would send a signal to the 442 or not. I want to be
able to hear the amp when I'm recording."Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net>
wrote:
>
>Do your amps have direct outputs? A guitar amp would need some sort of
speaker
>emulator to sound right. A bass amp w/ line out would work fine. You must
>have a mixer of some sort... You can use that to get mic signal into the
>442.
>
>Gantt
>
>"Rob Russell" <russellr@madriver.com> wrote:
>>
>>I figured it out.I needed to make a new file name to get to the Db setting.
>>All set with that now. I still need to work on getting patch cords from
>amps
>>to the 442 without mics.
>>
>>"Rob Russell" <russellr@madriver.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I thought I'd start a new thread to make it easier to find replies.
>>>I tried to boost the gain on a track by clicking gain change under audio
>>>in the editor window. All I get is a save as window with the file name.
>>I
>>>don't see anywhere to boost the gain.
>>
>

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Re: Help with PARIS [message #102434 is a reply to message #102432]

Sat, 07 February 2009 15:21

Gantt Kushner

Messages: 545
Registered: June 2006
Location: Silver Spring, Maryland, ...

Senior Member

You can probably plug keyboards directly into the 442. I'd experiment with
setting the input for -10dB or +4dB. I think -10dB would be the best choice
for most keyboards. The reason plugging into the jack on the keyboard amp
stopped the sound is that it's probably an insert loop that needs to be completed
to pass sound. YOu can probably get any electronic repair guy to solder
a 1/4" connecter on one end of a mic cable to create the patch cord you need
to connect your bass amp's line out to the 442. Or you could mic the amp.

Gantt

"Rob Russell" <russellr@madriver.com> wrote:
>
>The bass amp has a line out but it is the 3 pin type that I have on my mic.
>I'll have to get a special patch cord for that. The keyboard/acoustic amp
>has a Patch socket on the front that says send/return pre eq,tip=send ring=return
>sleeve=ground. When I tried that one it shut down the speaker in the amp
>and I'm not sure if it would send a signal to the 442 or not. I want to
be
>able to hear the amp when I'm recording."Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>>
>>Do your amps have direct outputs? A guitar amp would need some sort of
>speaker
>>emulator to sound right. A bass amp w/ line out would work fine. You
must
>>have a mixer of some sort... You can use that to get mic signal into the
>>442.
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>"Rob Russell" <russellr@madriver.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I figured it out.I needed to make a new file name to get to the Db setting.
>>>All set with that now. I still need to work on getting patch cords from
>>amps
>>>to the 442 without mics.
>>>
>>>"Rob Russell" <russellr@madriver.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I thought I'd start a new thread to make it easier to find replies.
>>>>I tried to boost the gain on a track by clicking gain change under audio
>>>>in the editor window. All I get is a save as window with the file name.
>>>I
>>>>don't see anywhere to boost the gain.
>>>
>>
>

Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com

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Re: Help with PARIS [message #102440 is a reply to message #102434]

Sun, 08 February 2009 05:54

Rob Russell

Messages: 18
Registered: March 2008

Junior Member

It's funny, all I needed to do was use a mic cable from the bass amp. But
that's the way the thought proccess works I guess. We recorded some good
drum tracks last night that will come in very handy. I need to go spend some
jack on some short patch cords. It looks like someone spilled a bowl of black
spaghetti behind my rack right now.
Thanks again for the help. I'm starting to get my head trained. The different
windows are starting to mean something...
My sister just saw this guy at Disney World and sent me this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULamrnbncJU
I want to learn how to use loops next:)
"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>You can probably plug keyboards directly into the 442. I'd experiment with
>setting the input for -10dB or +4dB. I think -10dB would be the best choice
>for most keyboards. The reason plugging into the jack on the keyboard amp
>stopped the sound is that it's probably an insert loop that needs to be
completed
> to pass sound. YOu can probably get any electronic repair guy to solder
>a 1/4" connecter on one end of a mic cable to create the patch cord you
need
>to connect your bass amp's line out to the 442. Or you could mic the amp.
>
>Gantt
>
>"Rob Russell" <russellr@madriver.com> wrote:
>>
>>The bass amp has a line out but it is the 3 pin type that I have on my
mic.
>>I'll have to get a special patch cord for that. The keyboard/acoustic amp
>>has a Patch socket on the front that says send/return pre eq,tip=send ring=return
>>sleeve=ground. When I tried that one it shut down the speaker in the amp
>>and I'm not sure if it would send a signal to the 442 or not. I want to
>be
>>able to hear the amp when I'm recording."Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net>
>>wrote:
>>>
>>>Do your amps have direct outputs? A guitar amp would need some sort of
>>speaker
>>>emulator to sound right. A bass amp w/ line out would work fine. You
>must
>>>have a mixer of some sort... You can use that to get mic signal into
the
>>>442.
>>>
>>>Gantt
>>>
>>>"Rob Russell" <russellr@madriver.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I figured it out.I needed to make a new file name to get to the Db setting.
>>>>All set with that now. I still need to work on getting patch cords from
>>>amps
>>>>to the 442 without mics.
>>>>
>>>>"Rob Russell" <russellr@madriver.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I thought I'd start a new thread to make it easier to find replies.
>>>>>I tried to boost the gain on a track by clicking gain change under audio
>>>>>in the editor window. All I get is a save as window with the file name.
>>>>I
>>>>>don't see anywhere to boost the gain.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Re: Help with PARIS [message #102447 is a reply to message #102440]

Sun, 08 February 2009 11:34

Gantt Kushner

Messages: 545
Registered: June 2006
Location: Silver Spring, Maryland, ...

Senior Member

Soon you need to learn about patch bays.

\"Rob Russell" <russellr@madriver.com> wrote:
>
>It's funny, all I needed to do was use a mic cable from the bass amp. But
>that's the way the thought proccess works I guess. We recorded some good
>drum tracks last night that will come in very handy. I need to go spend
some
>jack on some short patch cords. It looks like someone spilled a bowl of
black
>spaghetti behind my rack right now.
>Thanks again for the help. I'm starting to get my head trained. The different
>windows are starting to mean something...
>My sister just saw this guy at Disney World and sent me this link.
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULamrnbncJU
>I want to learn how to use loops next:)
> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>You can probably plug keyboards directly into the 442. I'd experiment
with
>>setting the input for -10dB or +4dB. I think -10dB would be the best choice
>>for most keyboards. The reason plugging into the jack on the keyboard
amp
>>stopped the sound is that it's probably an insert loop that needs to be
>completed
>> to pass sound. YOu can probably get any electronic repair guy to solder
>>a 1/4" connecter on one end of a mic cable to create the patch cord you
>need
>>to connect your bass amp's line out to the 442. Or you could mic the amp.
>>
>>Gantt
>>
>>"Rob Russell" <russellr@madriver.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>The bass amp has a line out but it is the 3 pin type that I have on my
>mic.
>>>I'll have to get a special patch cord for that. The keyboard/acoustic
amp
>>>has a Patch socket on the front that says send/return pre eq,tip=send
ring=return
>>>sleeve=ground. When I tried that one it shut down the speaker in the amp
>>>and I'm not sure if it would send a signal to the 442 or not. I want to
>>be
>>>able to hear the amp when I'm recording."Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Do your amps have direct outputs? A guitar amp would need some sort
of
>>>speaker
>>>>emulator to sound right. A bass amp w/ line out would work fine. You
>>must
>>>>have a mixer of some sort... You can use that to get mic signal into
>the
>>>>442.
>>>>
>>>>Gantt
>>>>
>>>>"Rob Russell" <russellr@madriver.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I figured it out.I needed to make a new file name to get to the Db setting.
>>>>>All set with that now. I still need to work on getting patch cords from
>>>>amps
>>>>>to the 442 without mics.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Rob Russell" <russellr@madriver.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I thought I'd start a new thread to make it easier to find replies.
>>>>>>I tried to boost the gain on a track by clicking gain change under
audio
>>>>>>in the editor window. All I get is a save as window with the file name.
>>>>>I
>>>>>>don't see anywhere to boost the gain.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com

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