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| Re: Lynx and ADAT Sync w/ Paris [message #83800 is a reply to message #83792] |
Sat, 28 April 2007 08:34   |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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HI John,
All of the HDSP PCI cards can be used with each other up to 3 cards at
once as long as your system has the resources available.
You can either add a AD/DA converter to your current card. Lynx and RME
make some excellent ones but you talking from $1600 to $2800 not sure if
you want to spend that much.
Some of these HDSP PCI cards below will off some very good ways of
getting high quality AD/DA. The HDSP9632 will give you stereo AD?DA and
headphone out and the Multiface II/PCI card will give 8 analog I/O and a
headphone out. These options will allow you to still do you ADAT
transfers on the 9652 while using the analog for monitoring or other
recording needs. Only real draw back with using the extra PCI cards is
whether or not you have the available PCI slots and IRQs. Any of the
these cards will be less expensive than using external converters but
still very high quality.
Chris
_HDSP9632 - _
Balanced* stereo analog in- and output, 192 kHz/24 bit, > 110 dB SNR
Optional analog expansion boards with 4 balanced in- or outputs
All analog I/Os capable of 192 kHz, constant number of available channels
1 ADAT digital I/O, supporting 96 kHz S/MUX operation
1 SPDIF digital I/O, 192 kHz-capable
1 Breakout cable for coaxial SPDIF*
1 Stereo headphone output, parallel to the analog out, additional level
settings
1 MIDI I/O with 16 channels of hi-speed MIDI via breakout cable
TotalMix: 512-channel mixer with 40 bit internal resolution
_HDSP9652 - _
3 x ADAT digital I/O,supporting 96 kHz S/MUX operation
1 x SPDIF digital I/O
1 x Breakout cable for coaxial SPDIF operation
1 x Word clock I/O (BNC) on included expansion board
1 x ADAT Sync In (9-pin D-type) for sample accurate transfers
2 x MIDI I/O, 32 channels high-speed MIDI via breakout cable
TotalMix: 1352 channel mixer with 40 bit internal resolution
_MULTIFACE IIw/ HDSP PCI card-
_8 x analog line I/O, 96 kHz/24 bit, SNR 111 dBA, 1/4" TRS jacks
1 x ADAT digital I/O supporting 96 kHz S/MUX operation
1 x SPDIF digital I/O
1 x Word clock I/O (BNC)
1 x hi-power analog line/headphone output, separate output for
independent submix
1 x MIDI I/O, 16 channels high-speed MIDI
TotalMix: 720 channel mixer with 40 bit internal resolution. MIDI remote
controllable.
_
Digiface w/HDSP PCI card -_
3 x ADAT digital I/O supporting 96 kHz S/MUX operation
1 x SPDIF digital I/O
1 x ADAT Sync In (9-pin D-type) for sample accurate transfers
1 x Word clock I/O (BNC)
1 x analog Line/headphone output, separate output for independent submix
2 x MIDI I/O, 32 channels high-speed MIDI
TotalMix: 1456 channel mixer with 40 bit internal resolution
_HDSP MADI -_
1x MADI on either Coaxial or Optical 64 channels @44.1/48k or 32 ch @ 96k
2 X MIDI I/O,
WC I/O
Stereo Analog Out
_HDSP AES32 PCI - _
8x AES inputs (16 channels)
8x AES outputs (16 channels)
Support for 192 kHz at full channel count
Native support for Double and Quad Wire transfer Direct conversion
between these formats
Can be used with the optional TCO module for synchronization to LTC and
video.
2x MIDI I/O ports
1x word clock I/O
TotalMix: 512 channel mixer with 42 bit internal resolution
John Shapiro wrote:
> Yeah. It is an HDSP. What options are you talking about?
>
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:463285b5@linux...
>
>> Hi John,
>> The Lynx will not do that.
>>
>> Which version of the RME 9652 do you have?
>> There are quite a few options possible if you are using the HDSP series
>> cards.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> John Shapiro wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It's been a couple years since I have posted. I am currently using an
>>> RME card to sync a Paris computer to a Cubase computer via ADAT. It
>>> works great. I am looking to get a Lynx card for the AD/DA conversion
>>> quality/simply my setup when I am using Cubase only. and I would like to
>>> sell the RME card to offset the cost/consolidate things. I'm certainly
>>> not going to ditch the RME if that is the only thing that works, but if
>>> someone else has ever successfully synced a Lynx to Paris via ADAT,
>>> please let me know. I searched the other posts, but I couldn't find any
>>> mention of this sync.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>>
>> ADK Pro Audio
>> (859) 635-5762
>> www.adkproaudio.com
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Lynx and ADAT Sync w/ Paris [message #83801 is a reply to message #83793] |
Sat, 28 April 2007 08:45 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Senior Member |
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Hi DJ,
The upcoming ADI8-QS and the Micstasy will knock your socks off.
Especially when you finally get your MADI setup.
The Prototype I got to here was great sonically and if a big upgrade
from the DS even. It will easily hold it's own against some of the big dogs.
The unit I heard had the Autoset feature like that of the Micstacy which
is a totally awesome idea that I haven't anyone do this well so far.
The live recording people will go nuts for it. This is how they describe it.
"That's AutoSet - Usually preamps feature limiters in order to prevent
an overload, especially of the AD converter. This is not feasible for
the Micstasy, as such a limiter would ruin the excellent technical
specifications of the microphone front end. However, as the gain is
controlled digitally, the Micstasy can set it automatically. RME
intentionally decided not to enable the device to raise the gain,
AutoSet can only reduce it: In an orchestral recording session, the user
sets all gains to 60 dB and when the orchestra play fortissimo AutoSet
will automatically adjust the levels by reducing the gain whenever
overloads were detected."
Micstacy-
8 hi-end mic preamps, digitally controlled gain (0.5 dB steps), range
and internal PAD (invisible to the user). This results in an incredible
gain range of 85 dB. The input reaches full scale level at -55 dBu, but
can also handle a maximum input level of +30 dBu!
8-channel high-end line amplifier, XLR and TRS input, with gain control
in 0.5 dB steps.
8-channel AD converter with low latency and high SNR, thanks to CS5381
converters. The digital outputs deliver the same signal as the line
outputs.
Analog outputs: max. level approx +27 dBu
Digital outputs: Double ADAT for 8 channels @ 96 kHz, D-sub connector
for 4 x AES/EBU up to 192 kHz (plus one AES input as sync source).
Remote control via MIDI and MADI.
All settings are stored permanently
_Optional MADI module _
Option Slot modules for other interface standards are currently under
development
ADI-8 QS-
8-channel AD converter, fully symmetrical design, 120 dBA S/N
8-channel DA converter, double balanced output, 120 dBA DA
Low latency conversion: only 8 samples of delay!
2 ADAT optical inputs, 24 bit, with RME's unsurpassed Bitclock PLL, up
to 192 kHz
2 ADAT optical outputs, 24 bit, fully compatible, up to 192 kHz
8 AES/EBU I/Os, full channel count up to 192 kHz, 24 bit, connected via
D-sub
8-channel Digital Input Trim over a range of 6 dB
Full remote controllability via MIDI and MIDI via MADI
All settings are stored permanently
Included Remote Control for store/recall of presets, volume and dim
_Optional MADI module _
Chris
DJ wrote:
> I'll betcha he's talking about an Aurora converter interfaced with the RME
> via lightpipe, if Lynx is a must. I'm liking the RME ADI8-DS interfaced with
> the HDSP 9652 here. Lots of options with the RME HDSP hardware..
>
> Deej
>
> "John Shapiro" <me at johnshapiro dot com> wrote in message
> news:4632e307$1@linux...
>
>> Yeah. It is an HDSP. What options are you talking about?
>>
>>
>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>> news:463285b5@linux...
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>> The Lynx will not do that.
>>>
>>> Which version of the RME 9652 do you have?
>>> There are quite a few options possible if you are using the HDSP series
>>> cards.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Shapiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> It's been a couple years since I have posted. I am currently using an
>>>> RME card to sync a Paris computer to a Cubase computer via ADAT. It
>>>> works great. I am looking to get a Lynx card for the AD/DA conversion
>>>> quality/simply my setup when I am using Cubase only. and I would like to
>>>> sell the RME card to offset the cost/consolidate things. I'm certainly
>>>> not going to ditch the RME if that is the only thing that works, but if
>>>> someone else has ever successfully synced a Lynx to Paris via ADAT,
>>>> please let me know. I searched the other posts, but I couldn't find any
>>>> mention of this sync.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>
>>
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Lynx and ADAT Sync w/ Paris [message #83824 is a reply to message #83800] |
Sat, 28 April 2007 21:54 |
John Shapiro
Messages: 15
Registered: August 2007
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Junior Member |
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Chris,
Thanks for all the info. I appreciate it.
I was actually talking about the LynxTwo or L22 card with the addon LS-ADAT
card which has light pipe I/O and an ADAT sync in port (9-pin D-type). I
didn't know if that was something that would actually sync to PARIS or not.
It sounds like it won't work even though.
The Aurora is out of my price range and I just looked up the Micstacy and
that is twice as much as the Aurora.
The main thing I want to achieve is a 2 or 4 really good pro level A/D D/A
convertors on my Cubase box at a reasonable price. That way I wouldn't have
to use PARIS for Cubase only projects. If I could sell my RME card and still
get ADAT sync, that would better.
I have read a lot of good things about the Lynx convertors comparing well
to the more expensive Apogee, Lavry, etc. Of course, I have never heard
any of these convertors. I would say if the sound as good as the PARIS convertors,
that would be great. If I noticed for whatever subjective reason they could
sound better than PARIS, that would be even better.
So I guess back to the original question with more specifics: Has anyone
synced the PARIS ADAT sync out to a Lynx LS-ADAT sync in which is hooked
into a Lynx Two or L22?
Also, does anyone have any thoughts about Lynx convertors compared to other
stuff in that price range like the RME stuff or whatnot?
Thanks,
John
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>HI John,
>All of the HDSP PCI cards can be used with each other up to 3 cards at
>once as long as your system has the resources available.
>
>You can either add a AD/DA converter to your current card. Lynx and RME
>make some excellent ones but you talking from $1600 to $2800 not sure if
>you want to spend that much.
>Some of these HDSP PCI cards below will off some very good ways of
>getting high quality AD/DA. The HDSP9632 will give you stereo AD?DA and
>headphone out and the Multiface II/PCI card will give 8 analog I/O and a
>headphone out. These options will allow you to still do you ADAT
>transfers on the 9652 while using the analog for monitoring or other
>recording needs. Only real draw back with using the extra PCI cards is
>whether or not you have the available PCI slots and IRQs. Any of the
>these cards will be less expensive than using external converters but
>still very high quality.
>
>Chris
>
>
>
>_HDSP9632 - _
>Balanced* stereo analog in- and output, 192 kHz/24 bit, > 110 dB SNR
>Optional analog expansion boards with 4 balanced in- or outputs
>All analog I/Os capable of 192 kHz, constant number of available channels
>1 ADAT digital I/O, supporting 96 kHz S/MUX operation
>1 SPDIF digital I/O, 192 kHz-capable
>1 Breakout cable for coaxial SPDIF*
>1 Stereo headphone output, parallel to the analog out, additional level
>settings
>1 MIDI I/O with 16 channels of hi-speed MIDI via breakout cable
>TotalMix: 512-channel mixer with 40 bit internal resolution
>
>_HDSP9652 - _
>3 x ADAT digital I/O,supporting 96 kHz S/MUX operation
>1 x SPDIF digital I/O
>1 x Breakout cable for coaxial SPDIF operation
>1 x Word clock I/O (BNC) on included expansion board
>1 x ADAT Sync In (9-pin D-type) for sample accurate transfers
>2 x MIDI I/O, 32 channels high-speed MIDI via breakout cable
>TotalMix: 1352 channel mixer with 40 bit internal resolution
>
>_MULTIFACE IIw/ HDSP PCI card-
>
>_8 x analog line I/O, 96 kHz/24 bit, SNR 111 dBA, 1/4" TRS jacks
>1 x ADAT digital I/O supporting 96 kHz S/MUX operation
>1 x SPDIF digital I/O
>1 x Word clock I/O (BNC)
>1 x hi-power analog line/headphone output, separate output for
>independent submix
>1 x MIDI I/O, 16 channels high-speed MIDI
>TotalMix: 720 channel mixer with 40 bit internal resolution. MIDI remote
>controllable.
>_
>Digiface w/HDSP PCI card -_
>
>3 x ADAT digital I/O supporting 96 kHz S/MUX operation
>1 x SPDIF digital I/O
>1 x ADAT Sync In (9-pin D-type) for sample accurate transfers
>1 x Word clock I/O (BNC)
>1 x analog Line/headphone output, separate output for independent submix
>2 x MIDI I/O, 32 channels high-speed MIDI
>TotalMix: 1456 channel mixer with 40 bit internal resolution
>
>_HDSP MADI -_
>
>1x MADI on either Coaxial or Optical 64 channels @44.1/48k or 32 ch @ 96k
>2 X MIDI I/O,
>WC I/O
>Stereo Analog Out
>
>
>_HDSP AES32 PCI - _
>
>8x AES inputs (16 channels)
>8x AES outputs (16 channels)
>Support for 192 kHz at full channel count
>Native support for Double and Quad Wire transfer Direct conversion
>between these formats
>Can be used with the optional TCO module for synchronization to LTC and
>video.
>2x MIDI I/O ports
>1x word clock I/O
>TotalMix: 512 channel mixer with 42 bit internal resolution
>
>
>John Shapiro wrote:
>> Yeah. It is an HDSP. What options are you talking about?
>>
>>
>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>> news:463285b5@linux...
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>> The Lynx will not do that.
>>>
>>> Which version of the RME 9652 do you have?
>>> There are quite a few options possible if you are using the HDSP series
>>> cards.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Shapiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> It's been a couple years since I have posted. I am currently using
an
>>>> RME card to sync a Paris computer to a Cubase computer via ADAT. It
>>>> works great. I am looking to get a Lynx card for the AD/DA conversion
>>>> quality/simply my setup when I am using Cubase only. and I would like
to
>>>> sell the RME card to offset the cost/consolidate things. I'm certainly
>>>> not going to ditch the RME if that is the only thing that works, but
if
>>>> someone else has ever successfully synced a Lynx to Paris via ADAT,
>>>> please let me know. I searched the other posts, but I couldn't find
any
>>>> mention of this sync.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>
>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>> (859) 635-5762
>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762
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| Re: Lynx and ADAT Sync w/ Paris [message #83839 is a reply to message #83824] |
Sun, 29 April 2007 10:32 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Senior Member |
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HI John,
If the Lynx ADAT 9-pin actually send ASIO Positioning Protocol to Cubase
then it should in theory work the same way the RME does. Don't know
anyone who has tried it.
Sense you only need 2 channels of high end AD/DA then I would just get
this and plug it into your SPDIF I/O on the HDSP 9652. This way you
don't need to install any drivers or lose any RME's other features that
you know already work.
http://www.rme-audio.com/english/adi/adi2.htm
They usually go for around $695.00
Chris
John Shapiro wrote:
> Chris,
>
> Thanks for all the info. I appreciate it.
>
> I was actually talking about the LynxTwo or L22 card with the addon LS-ADAT
> card which has light pipe I/O and an ADAT sync in port (9-pin D-type). I
> didn't know if that was something that would actually sync to PARIS or not.
> It sounds like it won't work even though.
>
> The Aurora is out of my price range and I just looked up the Micstacy and
> that is twice as much as the Aurora.
>
> The main thing I want to achieve is a 2 or 4 really good pro level A/D D/A
> convertors on my Cubase box at a reasonable price. That way I wouldn't have
> to use PARIS for Cubase only projects. If I could sell my RME card and still
> get ADAT sync, that would better.
>
> I have read a lot of good things about the Lynx convertors comparing well
> to the more expensive Apogee, Lavry, etc. Of course, I have never heard
> any of these convertors. I would say if the sound as good as the PARIS convertors,
> that would be great. If I noticed for whatever subjective reason they could
> sound better than PARIS, that would be even better.
>
> So I guess back to the original question with more specifics: Has anyone
> synced the PARIS ADAT sync out to a Lynx LS-ADAT sync in which is hooked
> into a Lynx Two or L22?
>
> Also, does anyone have any thoughts about Lynx convertors compared to other
> stuff in that price range like the RME stuff or whatnot?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
>
>
> Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>
>> HI John,
>> All of the HDSP PCI cards can be used with each other up to 3 cards at
>> once as long as your system has the resources available.
>>
>> You can either add a AD/DA converter to your current card. Lynx and RME
>>
>
>
>> make some excellent ones but you talking from $1600 to $2800 not sure if
>>
>
>
>> you want to spend that much.
>> Some of these HDSP PCI cards below will off some very good ways of
>> getting high quality AD/DA. The HDSP9632 will give you stereo AD?DA and
>>
>
>
>> headphone out and the Multiface II/PCI card will give 8 analog I/O and a
>>
>
>
>> headphone out. These options will allow you to still do you ADAT
>> transfers on the 9652 while using the analog for monitoring or other
>> recording needs. Only real draw back with using the extra PCI cards is
>> whether or not you have the available PCI slots and IRQs. Any of the
>> these cards will be less expensive than using external converters but
>> still very high quality.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> _HDSP9632 - _
>> Balanced* stereo analog in- and output, 192 kHz/24 bit, > 110 dB SNR
>> Optional analog expansion boards with 4 balanced in- or outputs
>> All analog I/Os capable of 192 kHz, constant number of available channels
>> 1 ADAT digital I/O, supporting 96 kHz S/MUX operation
>> 1 SPDIF digital I/O, 192 kHz-capable
>> 1 Breakout cable for coaxial SPDIF*
>> 1 Stereo headphone output, parallel to the analog out, additional level
>>
>
>
>> settings
>> 1 MIDI I/O with 16 channels of hi-speed MIDI via breakout cable
>> TotalMix: 512-channel mixer with 40 bit internal resolution
>>
>> _HDSP9652 - _
>> 3 x ADAT digital I/O,supporting 96 kHz S/MUX operation
>> 1 x SPDIF digital I/O
>> 1 x Breakout cable for coaxial SPDIF operation
>> 1 x Word clock I/O (BNC) on included expansion board
>> 1 x ADAT Sync In (9-pin D-type) for sample accurate transfers
>> 2 x MIDI I/O, 32 channels high-speed MIDI via breakout cable
>> TotalMix: 1352 channel mixer with 40 bit internal resolution
>>
>> _MULTIFACE IIw/ HDSP PCI card-
>>
>> _8 x analog line I/O, 96 kHz/24 bit, SNR 111 dBA, 1/4" TRS jacks
>> 1 x ADAT digital I/O supporting 96 kHz S/MUX operation
>> 1 x SPDIF digital I/O
>> 1 x Word clock I/O (BNC)
>> 1 x hi-power analog line/headphone output, separate output for
>> independent submix
>> 1 x MIDI I/O, 16 channels high-speed MIDI
>> TotalMix: 720 channel mixer with 40 bit internal resolution. MIDI remote
>>
>
>
>> controllable.
>> _
>> Digiface w/HDSP PCI card -_
>>
>> 3 x ADAT digital I/O supporting 96 kHz S/MUX operation
>> 1 x SPDIF digital I/O
>> 1 x ADAT Sync In (9-pin D-type) for sample accurate transfers
>> 1 x Word clock I/O (BNC)
>> 1 x analog Line/headphone output, separate output for independent submix
>> 2 x MIDI I/O, 32 channels high-speed MIDI
>> TotalMix: 1456 channel mixer with 40 bit internal resolution
>>
>> _HDSP MADI -_
>>
>> 1x MADI on either Coaxial or Optical 64 channels @44.1/48k or 32 ch @ 96k
>> 2 X MIDI I/O,
>> WC I/O
>> Stereo Analog Out
>>
>>
>> _HDSP AES32 PCI - _
>>
>> 8x AES inputs (16 channels)
>> 8x AES outputs (16 channels)
>> Support for 192 kHz at full channel count
>> Native support for Double and Quad Wire transfer Direct conversion
>> between these formats
>> Can be used with the optional TCO module for synchronization to LTC and
>>
>
>
>> video.
>> 2x MIDI I/O ports
>> 1x word clock I/O
>> TotalMix: 512 channel mixer with 42 bit internal resolution
>>
>>
>> John Shapiro wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah. It is an HDSP. What options are you talking about?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>>> news:463285b5@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi John,
>>>> The Lynx will not do that.
>>>>
>>>> Which version of the RME 9652 do you have?
>>>> There are quite a few options possible if you are using the HDSP series
>>>>
>
>
>>>> cards.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Shapiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> It's been a couple years since I have posted. I am currently using
>>>>>
> an
>
>>>>> RME card to sync a Paris computer to a Cubase computer via ADAT. It
>>>>>
>
>
>>>>> works great. I am looking to get a Lynx card for the AD/DA conversion
>>>>>
>
>
>>>>> quality/simply my setup when I am using Cubase only. and I would like
>>>>>
> to
>
>>>>> sell the RME card to offset the cost/consolidate things. I'm certainly
>>>>>
>
>
>>>>> not going to ditch the RME if that is the only thing that works, but
>>>>>
> if
>
>>>>> someone else has ever successfully synced a Lynx to Paris via ADAT,
>>>>>
>
>
>>>>> please let me know. I searched the other posts, but I couldn't find
>>>>>
> any
>
>>>>> mention of this sync.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Ludwig
>>>>
>>>> ADK Pro Audio
>>>> (859) 635-5762
>>>> www.adkproaudio.com
>>>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>> ADK
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> (859) 635-5762
>>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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