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Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62532] Thu, 05 January 2006 18:01 Go to next message
Pete Ruthenburg is currently offline  Pete Ruthenburg   
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eciated,
>> PeteGee uncle Rick.Every time your relate your experiences with Macs, somehow I
imagine that slitting my wrists would be preferable to owning one.


;o)


"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> my g4 has no sata connectivity so it would be strictly a pci thing. i
> was checking out mac gurus and theirs against the others. i will say
> that after 2 1/2 years tiger 10.4.3 is pretty good after 3 installs.
> it seems
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62533 is a reply to message #62532] Thu, 05 January 2006 17:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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that the firewire card in it went bad and for some reason
> would take out the external drives on the internal firewire and
> corrupt the boot drive that disk warrior wouldn't even touch it.
>
> thanks
>
> On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:10:32 -0700, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> >I've heard nothing but good things about the Silicon Image SATA
conrrollers.
> >I have a question about this though. If I'm reading my manual correctly,
the
> >onboard VIA controller on my mobo has it's own separate bus for SATA RAID
> >which is independent of the PCI bus. I would think that, if this is the
> >case, using an onboard controller would be a better choice as long as
it's
> >got a separate bus. The Promise controller on my A7V8X-LAN mobo has
onboard
> >SATA but it's pinging the PCI bus a little and therefore isn't much
faster
> >than ATA33.
> >
> >
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62535 is a reply to message #62533] Thu, 05 January 2006 18:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pete Ruthenburg is currently offline  Pete Ruthenburg   
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y and that as VSTi.

Do you need portable rig? That's another consideration. I decided to go with
a totally sample/VSTi based setup here right before the first of the year.
Right now I'm using an MAudio Keystation 88 with the following VSTi's

BFD-BFD XFL
Jamstix
Groove Agent II
Halion Player 3.1
Ivory
Garritan Personal Orchestra (haven't yet decided if this is a keeper)
Native Instruments B4 II (hasn't showed up yet but I've heard the B4 vI and
I'm smitten with the NI implementation of the B# organ so I'm expecting to
be happy with this)

I'm counting on these, along with Jammer v6 for roughing out song ideas and
Cubase SX for finishing them out and my Paris rig to provide what I need
here for a pretty well fleshed out audio production capability. This next
year is looking like it's going to be getting a bit more complex than the
acoustic/singer/songwriter/bluegrass based stuff I've been doing for the
last few years.....plus, mu muse is tweaked and I want to start composing
music again. It's been a long time since I've written anything and I always
enjoyed producing (according to my wife...I enjoy it a little too much and
need to simplify.......simplify....??????.....me????

;o)
"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> Hey Deej,good point about reality vs. synthes
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62537 is a reply to message #62532] Thu, 05 January 2006 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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If you're looking for reality instead of synthesis, go soft all the way. Get
you a good controller and build yourself a moose of a comp to stream samples
or if you need portability get the thingie that plays them out of a box
(forget the name)....or you could drop $8k and get yourself a Korg Oasys.

;o)




"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> So I'm looking to get a new synth in here.Pretty slim synth
> collection-Kurz PC2X and 2500 rack,D50.I'm looking at the Yamaha
> motifs,but a buddy was telling me I should go soft synth.I'm not
> currently running DAW with audio/midi and was thinking of getting
> into the SX thing.
> I haven't gotten into the soft synth thing at all so I'm a
> little hesitant having to go the new dedicated comp,software,vsti
> route compared to a hardware synth I can turn on and make noise
> with.
> However,I can see the benefit of going that route with software
> that will continually be updated as opposed to a hard synth that
> will be worth whatever in a couple of years.
>
> Any advice appreciated,
> Pete
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62538 is a reply to message #62537] Thu, 05 January 2006 19:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pete Ruthenburg is currently offline  Pete Ruthenburg   
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Hey Deej,good point about reality vs. synthesis.Hadn't thought of
it that way,but I'm probably thinking more reality vibe.
Yeah,I played an Oasys the other day.Nice board,but 8k I don't
think so;)

Pete

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>If you're looking for reality instead of synthesis, go soft all the way.
Get
>you a good controller and build yourself a moose of a comp to stream samples
>or if you need portability get the thingie that plays them out of a box
>(forget the name)....or you could drop $8k and get yourself a Korg Oasys.
>
>;o)
>
>
>
>
>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:43bdc14e$1@linux...
>>
>> So I'm looking to get a new synth in here.Pretty slim synth
>> collection-Kurz PC2X and 2500 rack,D50.I'm looking at the Yamaha
>> motifs,but a buddy was telling me I should go soft synth.I'm not
>> currently running DAW with audio/midi and was thinking of getting
>> into the SX thing.
>> I haven't gotten into the soft synth thing at all so I'm a
>> little hesitant having to go the new dedicated comp,software,vsti
>> route compared to a hardware synth I can turn on and make noise
>> with.
>> However,I can see the benefit of going that route with software
>> that will continually be updated as opposed to a hard synth that
>> will be worth whatever in a couple of years.
>>
>> Any advice appreciated,
>> Pete
>
>
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62542 is a reply to message #62538] Thu, 05 January 2006 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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I understand the vibe vs reality thing. I just loaded Garritan Personal
Orchestra. It's pretty nice and it's sample based. I've got a buddy here in
town that is using the synful Orchestra. It's systhesis based but the way it
goes about it is extremely pleasing to the ear and actually seems a bit more
realistic to me than the GPO..........the Synful orchestra sounds very
retro, but in a very good way. If you're looking for piano though, it's
gotta be Ivory and that as VSTi.

Do you need portable rig? That's another consideration. I decided to go with
a totally sample/VSTi based setup here right before the first of the year.
Right now I'm using an MAudio Keystation 88 with the following VSTi's

BFD-BFD XFL
Jamstix
Groove Agent II
Halion Player 3.1
Ivory
Garritan Personal Orchestra (haven't yet decided if this is a keeper)
Native Instruments B4 II (hasn't showed up yet but I've heard the B4 vI and
I'm smitten with the NI implementation of the B# organ so I'm expecting to
be happy with this)

I'm counting on these, along with Jammer v6 for roughing out song ideas and
Cubase SX for finishing them out and my Paris rig to provide what I need
here for a pretty well fleshed out audio production capability. This next
year is looking like it's going to be getting a bit more complex than the
acoustic/singer/songwriter/bluegrass based stuff I've been doing for the
last few years.....plus, mu muse is tweaked and I want to start composing
music again. It's been a long time since I've written anything and I always
enjoyed producing (according to my wife...I enjoy it a little too much and
need to simplify.......simplify....??????.....me????

;o)
"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> Hey Deej,good point about reality vs. synthesis.Hadn't thought of
> it that way,but I'm probably thinking more reality vibe.
> Yeah,I played an Oasys the other day.Nice board,but 8k I don't
> think so;)
>
> Pete
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
> >If you're looking for reality instead of synthesis, go soft all the way.
> Get
> >you a good controller and build yourself a moose of a comp to stream
samples
> >or if you need portability get the thingie that plays them out of a box
> >(forget the name)....or you could drop $8k and get yourself a Korg Oasys.
> >
> >;o)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >news:43bdc14e$1@linux...
> >>
> >> So I'm looking to get a new synth in here.Pretty slim synth
> >> collection-Kurz PC2X and 2500 rack,D50.I'm looking at the Yamaha
> >> motifs,but a buddy was telling me I should go soft synth.I'm not
> >> currently running DAW with audio/midi and was thinking of getting
> >> into the SX thing.
> >> I haven't gotten into the soft synth thing at all so I'm a
> >> little hesitant having to go the new dedicated comp,software,vsti
> >> route compared to a hardware synth I can turn on and make noise
> >> with.
> >> However,I can see the benefit of going that route with software
> >> that will continually be updated as opposed to a hard synth that
> >> will be worth whatever in a couple of years.
> >>
> >> Any advice appreciated,
> >> Pete
> >
> >
>
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62554 is a reply to message #62532] Thu, 05 January 2006 23:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
erlilo is currently offline  erlilo   NORWAY
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Pete,
Have a look at the new softsynth from www.kjaerhusaudio.com You can try it
out before buying. I've heard on the mp3's on the site and I must say it
sounded great for the money.

Erling

"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> skrev i melding
news:43bdc14e$1@linux...
>
> So I'm looking to get a new synth in here.Pretty slim synth
> collection-Kurz PC2X and 2500 rack,D50.I'm looking at the Yamaha
> motifs,but a buddy was telling me I should go soft synth.I'm not
> currently running DAW with audio/midi and was thinking of getting
> into the SX thing.
> I haven't gotten into the soft synth thing at all so I'm a
> little hesitant having to go the new dedicated comp,software,vsti
> route compared to a hardware synth I can turn on and make noise
> with.
> However,I can see the benefit of going that route with software
> that will continually be updated as opposed to a hard synth that
> will be worth whatever in a couple of years.
>
> Any advice appreciated,
> Pete
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62564 is a reply to message #62532] Fri, 06 January 2006 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emarenot is currently offline  emarenot   UNITED STATES
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Hey Pete
I've yet to dip into soft synths. I'm thinking about trying out Absynth or
Ivory. One thing about hardware though, and it may not really matter if
you've got a quick computer, they don't use up any CPU cycles.
MR

"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> So I'm looking to get a new synth in here.Pretty slim synth
> collection-Kurz PC2X and 2500 rack,D50.I'm looking at the Yamaha
> motifs,but a buddy was telling me I should go soft synth.I'm not
> currently running DAW with audio/midi and was thinking of getting
> into the SX thing.
> I haven't gotten into the soft synth thing at all so I'm a
> little hesitant having to go the new dedicated comp,software,vsti
> route compared to a hardware synth I can turn on and make noise
> with.
> However,I can see the benefit of going that route with software
> that will continually be updated as opposed to a hard synth that
> will be worth whatever in a couple of years.
>
> Any advice appreciated,
> Pete
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62569 is a reply to message #62532] Fri, 06 January 2006 07:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At this point I'm waiting for someone to give me even one solid reason to
use hardware synths other than familiarity.

TCB

"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> So I'm looking to get a new synth in here.Pretty slim synth
>collection-Kurz PC2X and 2500 rack,D50.I'm looking at the Yamaha
>motifs,but a buddy was telling me I should go soft synth.I'm not
>currently running DAW with audio/midi and was thinking of getting
>into the SX thing.
> I haven't gotten into the soft synth thing at all so I'm a
>little hesitant having to go the new dedicated comp,software,vsti
>route compared to a hardware synth I can turn on and make noise
>with.
> However,I can see the benefit of going that route with software
>that will continually be updated as opposed to a hard synth that
>will be worth whatever in a couple of years.
>
>Any advice appreciated,
>Pete
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62571 is a reply to message #62554] Fri, 06 January 2006 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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Also, if you're looking for synthy synths check into Operator from Ableton,
it's a FM synth that (for FM) is actually pretty easy to use. The Spectrum
is partially an additive synth which is something I've never been able to
get my head around but maybe y'all can.

TCB

"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote:
>Pete,
>Have a look at the new softsynth from www.kjaerhusaudio.com You can try
it
>out before buying. I've heard on the mp3's on the site and I must say it

>sounded great for the money.
>
>Erling
>
>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> skrev i melding
>news:43bdc14e$1@linux...
>>
>> So I'm looking to get a new synth in here.Pretty slim synth
>> collection-Kurz PC2X and 2500 rack,D50.I'm looking at the Yamaha
>> motifs,but a buddy was telling me I should go soft synth.I'm not
>> currently running DAW with audio/midi and was thinking of getting
>> into the SX thing.
>> I haven't gotten into the soft synth thing at all so I'm a
>> little hesitant having to go the new dedicated comp,software,vsti
>> route compared to a hardware synth I can turn on and make noise
>> with.
>> However,I can see the benefit of going that route with software
>> that will continually be updated as opposed to a hard synth that
>> will be worth whatever in a couple of years.
>>
>> Any advice appreciated,
>> Pete
>
>
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62572 is a reply to message #62569] Fri, 06 January 2006 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have to tell you that it's more 60/40 these day for me. Now that I built
myselt a Dedicated VSTi & Giga Machine (PC), powering up my keyboard racks
is becoming less less.

Last year I sysytematicaly set out to replace all of modlus and import stock(meat
& Potatoes) sounds that can get me thru a modern production.
When Spectrasonics updated Stylus to RMX & Battery/Acid, I know long have
to use my MPC for sounds, but only as a seqencer.
Here the replacement list:

For Rhodes: Native Instruments : Electick Piano, Scrarbee Rhodes

For Real Grand Pianos: Giga Pianos,Soon Ivory
For Synth Bass : Trilogy, Auturia Mini Moog
Pads : Atmosphere,FM7, Albino(!!!),Wavestation
Analogy Synths : Pro 53, Atmosphere,Korg poly 6,Moog,
CS- 80,Arp 2600
Organs: NI's B4..
Real Strings : Garritan Giga Strings,Sonic Implants,Kirk Hunter

Real Drum Sim: BFD, Battery..
i just em up in V-Stack, boom..remembers each song setups..

If I do use hardware, it's only becuase I just a particualr sound that I
have found yet in the vast vsti library. Also, I have a "ganked out" Kurweil
K2500XS, That's my Baby. It's has a sound quality second to none!! I have
Gigs of internal and external sound in it that just gets the job done..
So, there you have it.

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>At this point I'm waiting for someone to give me even one solid reason to
>use hardware synths other than familiarity.
>
>TCB
>
>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> So I'm looking to get a new synth in here.Pretty slim synth
>>collection-Kurz PC2X and 2500 rack,D50.I'm looking at the Yamaha
>>motifs,but a buddy was telling me I should go soft synth.I'm not
>>currently running DAW with audio/midi and was thinking of getting
>>into the SX thing.
>> I haven't gotten into the soft synth thing at all so I'm a
>>little hesitant having to go the new dedicated comp,software,vsti
>>route compared to a hardware synth I can turn on and make noise
>>with.
>> However,I can see the benefit of going that route with software
>>that will continually be updated as opposed to a hard synth that
>>will be worth whatever in a couple of years.
>>
>>Any advice appreciated,
>>Pete
>
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62573 is a reply to message #62572] Fri, 06 January 2006 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh Yeah.. I almost forgot to mention NI's Absynth (2 & 3)..If your are into
post , commericals or scoring, this baby will get you there..


"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>I have to tell you that it's more 60/40 these day for me. Now that I built
>myselt a Dedicated VSTi & Giga Machine (PC), powering up my keyboard racks
>is becoming less less.
>
>Last year I sysytematicaly set out to replace all of modlus and import stock(meat
>& Potatoes) sounds that can get me thru a modern production.
>When Spectrasonics updated Stylus to RMX & Battery/Acid, I know long have
>to use my MPC for sounds, but only as a seqencer.
>Here the replacement list:
>
>For Rhodes: Native Instruments : Electick Piano, Scrarbee Rhodes
>
>For Real Grand Pianos: Giga Pianos,Soon Ivory
>For Synth Bass : Trilogy, Auturia Mini Moog
>Pads : Atmosphere,FM7, Albino(!!!),Wavestation
>Analogy Synths : Pro 53, Atmosphere,Korg poly 6,Moog,
> CS- 80,Arp 2600
>Organs: NI's B4..
>Real Strings : Garritan Giga Strings,Sonic Implants,Kirk Hunter
>
>Real Drum Sim: BFD, Battery..
>i just em up in V-Stack, boom..remembers each song setups..
>
>If I do use hardware, it's only becuase I just a particualr sound that I
>have found yet in the vast vsti library. Also, I have a "ganked out" Kurweil
>K2500XS, That's my Baby. It's has a sound quality second to none!! I have
>Gigs of internal and external sound in it that just gets the job done..
>So, there you have it.
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>At this point I'm waiting for someone to give me even one solid reason
to
>>use hardware synths other than familiarity.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> So I'm looking to get a new synth in here.Pretty slim synth
>>>collection-Kurz PC2X and 2500 rack,D50.I'm looking at the Yamaha
>>>motifs,but a buddy was telling me I should go soft synth.I'm not
>>>currently running DAW with audio/midi and was thinking of getting
>>>into the SX thing.
>>> I haven't gotten into the soft synth thing at all so I'm a
>>>little hesitant having to go the new dedicated comp,software,vsti
>>>route compared to a hardware synth I can turn on and make noise
>>>with.
>>> However,I can see the benefit of going that route with software
>>>that will continually be updated as opposed to a hard synth that
>>>will be worth whatever in a couple of years.
>>>
>>>Any advice appreciated,
>>>Pete
>>
>
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62575 is a reply to message #62572] Fri, 06 January 2006 09:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gene lennon is currently offline  gene lennon
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"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>I have to tell you that it's more 60/40 these day for me. Now that I built
>myselt a Dedicated VSTi & Giga Machine (PC), powering up my keyboard racks
>is becoming less less.
>
>Last year I sysytematicaly set out to replace all of modlus and import stock(meat
>& Potatoes) sounds that can get me thru a modern production.
>When Spectrasonics updated Stylus to RMX & Battery/Acid, I know long have
>to use my MPC for sounds, but only as a seqencer.
>Here the replacement list:
>
>For Rhodes: Native Instruments : Electick Piano, Scrarbee Rhodes
>
>For Real Grand Pianos: Giga Pianos,Soon Ivory
>For Synth Bass : Trilogy, Auturia Mini Moog
>Pads : Atmosphere,FM7, Albino(!!!),Wavestation
>Analogy Synths : Pro 53, Atmosphere,Korg poly 6,Moog,
> CS- 80,Arp 2600
>Organs: NI's B4..
>Real Strings : Garritan Giga Strings,Sonic Implants,Kirk Hunter
>
>Real Drum Sim: BFD, Battery..

This is a good list. Some additions by category:

“Unique Percussion” –
Culture
RA
Stormdrum

“ROMPLER type softsynth” – Cakewalk Dimension Pro.

“Strings” EWQL Gold or several of the high-end GigaStudio libraries.

“Ultra-Modern Sounding Synth” – Sculpture (comes in Logic 7).

“Something New” - LinPlug Octopus (like FM7 with filters and unique programming)

“Real Drums” – Larry Seyer for Giga.

Gene

I still like my Korg Oasys PCI synth – not really hardware – not really software
– What is it?
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62581 is a reply to message #62569] Fri, 06 January 2006 10:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
steve the artguy is currently offline  steve the artguy
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"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>At this point I'm waiting for someone to give me even one solid reason to
>use hardware synths other than familiarity.
>
>TCB


ok, Thad, here's one.,

I have yet to take anything small to a gig (mixer, rompler module, etc) which
I put carefully on top of my keyboard thingies, which hasn't gotten knocked
off and onto the ground. Whether it's the drunks in the audience or careless
band members or my own stupid self, it seems to happen to every one of them.
I'd hate to have that happen with a laptop. Crunch!

That, and I'm the only one in the known universe at this point without a
laptop...or a cell phone...or a pda... or a gps... or...an automated loom....


-steve the luddite

-steve
>
>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> So I'm looking to get a new synth in here.Pretty slim synth
>>collection-Kurz PC2X and 2500 rack,D50.I'm looking at the Yamaha
>>motifs,but a buddy was telling me I should go soft synth.I'm not
>>currently running DAW with audio/midi and was thinking of getting
>>into the SX thing.
>> I haven't gotten into the soft synth thing at all so I'm a
>>little hesitant having to go the new dedicated comp,software,vsti
>>route compared to a hardware synth I can turn on and make noise
>>with.
>> However,I can see the benefit of going that route with software
>>that will continually be updated as opposed to a hard synth that
>>will be worth whatever in a couple of years.
>>
>>Any advice appreciated,
>>Pete
>
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62583 is a reply to message #62532] Fri, 06 January 2006 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Flanigan is currently offline  Gary Flanigan
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"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
..
> However,I can see the benefit of going that route with software
>that will continually be updated as opposed to a hard synth that
>will be worth whatever in a couple of years.
>
Craig Anderton pointed out recently that soft synths are often vanishing
instruments, especially if the company goes out of business and the software
soesn't run on the newer OS.
Sound familiar? :)
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62590 is a reply to message #62581] Fri, 06 January 2006 11:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TCB is currently offline  TCB
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A valid point, the playing live part, but if someone spills beer on your $3k
Motif you're out more than if the same guy spills beer in your $600 Dell
laptop. I DJ with a laptop fairly often and it's worth less than all but
two of my guitras, all of my amps. Actually, my Moog delay and Fulltone wah
have a significantly higher replacement cost than my laptop.

TCB

"steve the artguy" <artguy@svnsillyme.net> wrote:
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>At this point I'm waiting for someone to give me even one solid reason
to
>>use hardware synths other than familiarity.
>>
>>TCB
>
>
>ok, Thad, here's one.,
>
>I have yet to take anything small to a gig (mixer, rompler module, etc)
which
>I put carefully on top of my keyboard thingies, which hasn't gotten knocked
>off and onto the ground. Whether it's the drunks in the audience or careless
>band members or my own stupid self, it seems to happen to every one of them.
>I'd hate to have that happen with a laptop. Crunch!
>
>That, and I'm the only one in the known universe at this point without a
>laptop...or a cell phone...or a pda... or a gps... or...an automated loom....
>
>
>-steve the luddite
>
>-steve
>>
>>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> So I'm looking to get a new synth in here.Pretty slim synth
>>>collection-Kurz PC2X and 2500 rack,D50.I'm looking at the Yamaha
>>>motifs,but a buddy was telling me I should go soft synth.I'm not
>>>currently running DAW with audio/midi and was thinking of getting
>>>into the SX thing.
>>> I haven't gotten into the soft synth thing at all so I'm a
>>>little hesitant having to go the new dedicated comp,software,vsti
>>>route compared to a hardware synth I can turn on and make noise
>>>with.
>>> However,I can see the benefit of going that route with software
>>>that will continually be updated as opposed to a hard synth that
>>>will be worth whatever in a couple of years.
>>>
>>>Any advice appreciated,
>>>Pete
>>
>
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62610 is a reply to message #62590] Fri, 06 January 2006 20:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
steve the artguy is currently offline  steve the artguy
Messages: 308
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
Thad, you are of course right.

I can't get used to the concept of "cheap laptops." Odd, since I'm quite
conversant with the concept of "cheap everything else."

the equipment I used on my new year's gig cost me... hmm... about $250...with
cables, let's say $300...

-steve

"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>
>A valid point, the playing live part, but if someone spills beer on your
$3k
>Motif you're out more than if the same guy spills beer in your $600 Dell
>laptop. I DJ with a laptop fairly often and it's worth less than all but
>two of my guitras, all of my amps. Actually, my Moog delay and Fulltone
wah
>have a significantly higher replacement cost than my laptop.
>
>TCB
>
>"steve the artguy" <artguy@svnsillyme.net> wrote:
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>At this point I'm waiting for someone to give me even one solid reason
>to
>>>use hardware synths other than familiarity.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>
>>
>>ok, Thad, here's one.,
>>
>>I have yet to take anything small to a gig (mixer, rompler module, etc)
>which
>>I put carefully on top of my keyboard thingies, which hasn't gotten knocked
>>off and onto the ground. Whether it's the drunks in the audience or careless
>>band members or my own stupid self, it seems to happen to every one of
them.
>>I'd hate to have that happen with a laptop. Crunch!
>>
>>That, and I'm the only one in the known universe at this point without
a
>>laptop...or a cell phone...or a pda... or a gps... or...an automated loom....
>>
>>
>>-steve the luddite
>>
>>-steve
>>>
>>>"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So I'm looking to get a new synth in here.Pretty slim synth
>>>>collection-Kurz PC2X and 2500 rack,D50.I'm looking at the Yamaha
>>>>motifs,but a buddy was telling me I should go soft synth.I'm not
>>>>currently running DAW with audio/midi and was thinking of getting
>>>>into the SX thing.
>>>> I haven't gotten into the soft synth thing at all so I'm a
>>>>little hesitant having to go the new dedicated comp,software,vsti
>>>>route compared to a hardware synth I can turn on and make noise
>>>>with.
>>>> However,I can see the benefit of going that route with software
>>>>that will continually be updated as opposed to a hard synth that
>>>>will be worth whatever in a couple of years.
>>>>
>>>>Any advice appreciated,
>>>>Pete
>>>
>>
>
Re: Hardware or soft synths-What do you use more of these days? [message #62611 is a reply to message #62581] Fri, 06 January 2006 21:47 Go to previous message
Chris Wargo is currently offline  Chris Wargo
Messages: 45
Registered: November 2005
Member
>>At this point I'm waiting for someone to give me even one solid reason
to
>>use hardware synths other than familiarity.
>>
>>TCB

I'll give you another, but probabably not one that applies to you. I've
been tossing around the idea of getting a nice synth workstation. I'm not
really a keyboardist and don't do much electronic music. I have a few soft
synths, some freebies/built-ins and some that I bought. I also have Emulator-X
and an Oasys card. It's all quite a pain in the ass to manage when I need
to put a keyboard part down. I'm not intimate with all these synths, so
I waste a lot of time hunting around for what I want, often not finding it.
Having a workstation with a large soundbank would alow me to just scroll
through sounds until something sparked my creative funny bone. My Oasys
is the antithesis of this approach. You really need to know what you are
looking for. Hardware synths also give the ability to just turn on a synth
in less than a second and just start playing. Sometimes this is very valuable
too. And finally, when I need to upgrade my computer to run "Hungry Reverb
4.0 (tm)", I don't need to rebuild my arsenal of synths, and a trusty old
Kurzweil 2500 doesn't care when you migrate to a new OS on your computer.

Hardware synths, good for midiots ;-)
-Chris
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