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OT: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83092] Sat, 14 April 2007 22:45 Go to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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OK,

My talented young music slaves have convinced me we should leave the
safety of the studio once in a while and do some "shows." (I guess they
call 'em "shows" these days?)

Aside from needing a bass player and a living violinist, we also need
some kind of little PA system to rehearse with. Ideally, we'd like
something that would also work for small venues, like coffee shops, record
stores, parties, etc. The all-in-one package systems are tempting (was
looking at a Yamaha EMX212S), but I want to make sure it sounds good and has
feedback control in a small rehearsal space, etc. You know.

Ideally, we'd like to spend less than 6 or 7 hundred, but I'm pretty out
of touch with the gear world, and we'll do what we need to do.

Thanks,

Sarah

www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
Re: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83096 is a reply to message #83092] Sat, 14 April 2007 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   UNITED STATES
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"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:4621bccb$1@linux...
> OK,
>
> Ideally, we'd like to spend less than 6 or 7 hundred, but I'm pretty
> out of touch with the gear world, and we'll do what we need to do.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sarah
>
> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>

Oh......so you're wanting a PA system that will allow everyone else to hear
what you're playing........but you? You gotta have wedges or in ears, or
both. Seriously Sarah. there is nothing worse (at least IMHO) than getting
up on stage for a gig (show..what's a show??....are you guys going to
flash??? ;o) and not being able to hear yourself and/or each other. I'm
totally obsessed with this........crazed I tell you.......absolutely gotta'
have it, or I'll die.
Re: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83097 is a reply to message #83096] Sat, 14 April 2007 23:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   UNITED STATES
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"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:4621c2fc@linux...
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
> news:4621bccb$1@linux...
>> OK,
>>
>> Ideally, we'd like to spend less than 6 or 7 hundred, but I'm pretty
>> out of touch with the gear world, and we'll do what we need to do.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>>
>
> Oh......so you're wanting a PA system that will allow everyone else to
> hear what you're playing........but you? You gotta have wedges or in ears,
> or both. Seriously Sarah. there is nothing worse (at least IMHO) than
> getting up on stage for a gig (show..what's a show??....are you guys going
> to flash??? ;o) and not being able to hear yourself and/or each other. I'm
> totally obsessed with this........crazed I tell you.......absolutely
> gotta' have it, or I'll die.
>
>

Oops!! sorry.I just noticed that you were talking about a
rehearsal/coffeehouse rig.
Re: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83098 is a reply to message #83092] Sat, 14 April 2007 23:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Personally, I think yamaha consoles on the whole are under featured and =
over priced. Mackie has gone to the dogs on the whole. peavey has =
stepped up their game (just picked up a PV series 32 channel.... =
impressed thus far), and if you don't mind dealing with ethics, =
behringer makes some decent stuff for the money given that you may we be =
returning some of it / exchanging over QC issues. I have not been =
impressed with Fender pa stuff, basically since they bought out Sunn =
many years ago.=20

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you lose it all. But if you're wanting to go that direction: Soundcraft =
has the Gigrac with adequate built in power. A friend had one and tied =
it into some EV's on a stick (pole mounted 12" w/horn).. think those =
were a sx300 model. Bright, but for your description, probably just =
about right. You won't get much kick or bass in these, but sounds like =
it's going to be mostly vocals?

Have you thought about used gear? Hit the local pawn brokers and =
newspaper ads, see what's out there for the money.

AA

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Re: OT: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83101 is a reply to message #83092] Sun, 15 April 2007 06:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kateeba is currently offline  Kateeba   
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Registered: August 2005
Location: Hamden, Connecticut
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Sarah Exactly "what" do you need the amplification for, besides
your voice? By what, I mean which insturmens will need to go through it.
What instruments will be in the band totally.


Lou



"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>OK,
>
> My talented young music slaves have convinced me we should leave the

>safety of the studio once in a while and do some "shows." (I guess they

>call 'em "shows" these days?)
>
> Aside from needing a bass player and a living violinist, we also need

>some kind of little PA system to rehearse with. Ideally, we'd like
>something that would also work for small venues, like coffee shops, record

>stores, parties, etc. The all-in-one package systems are tempting (was

>looking at a Yamaha EMX212S), but I want to make sure it sounds good and
has
>feedback control in a small rehearsal space, etc. You know.
>
> Ideally, we'd like to spend less than 6 or 7 hundred, but I'm pretty
out
>of touch with the gear world, and we'll do what we need to do.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Sarah
>
>www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>
>


Louis Guarino Jr.
www.enchantedvibrations.net
Re: OT: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83115 is a reply to message #83092] Sun, 15 April 2007 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bill L is currently offline  Bill L   UNITED STATES
Messages: 766
Registered: August 2006
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Sarah wrote:
> OK,
>
> My talented young music slaves have convinced me we should leave the
> safety of the studio once in a while and do some "shows." (I guess they
> call 'em "shows" these days?)
>
> Aside from needing a bass player and a living violinist, we also need
> some kind of little PA system to rehearse with. Ideally, we'd like
> something that would also work for small venues, like coffee shops, record
> stores, parties, etc. The all-in-one package systems are tempting (was
> looking at a Yamaha EMX212S), but I want to make sure it sounds good and has
> feedback control in a small rehearsal space, etc. You know.
>
> Ideally, we'd like to spend less than 6 or 7 hundred, but I'm pretty out
> of touch with the gear world, and we'll do what we need to do.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sarah
>
> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>
>
For an all-in-one I would look at Carvin
http://www.carvin.com/products/group.php?CID=SYS1. They are good and
very reasonable - not hi end at all, but it will get the job done.

I would agree with DJ that you need one monitor for every vocalist,
unless they are standing very close to each other and can share one.
Some of the Carvin systems have power for mains and monitors

Bill L
Re: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83122 is a reply to message #83092] Sun, 15 April 2007 14:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emarenot is currently offline  emarenot   UNITED STATES
Messages: 345
Registered: June 2005
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Hey Sara,
I've been out of the live world for some time, but I'd agree with some of
the comments thus far: I stay away from all in one solutions -as noted
you're not totally out of luck if one component dies, and I'd consider used
gear. As with buying all things used you have to thing about the gear's
history -how much use has it had, and what sort of music was played through
it. This is of course especially true for speakers. Where the gears been
used seems to matter too. My repair guy tells me that cigarette smoke does
for circuits boards and electrical connections favors similar to those it
grants to our lungs. (I always thought it was just an issue with ordor -not
so apparently.)
I've listened to some of your demos and I gather you'd be playing with
more than a few players. So, I'd also agree that some sort of monitor
system would probably be helpful. However, I would note that our trio, if
the club was small enough and the crowd noise was low enough, could often
play without monitors. Of course those are two big if's that can change
pretty quickly. If I was going to go out again I'd really be looking at
some sort of in-ear system. Wedges can certainly work, but feedback can be
a real issue. Another thing you might consider is a wireless mic system. I
say this not because I'm familiar with them, but I AM familiar with running
mic cables ...and coiling them, and storing them, and cleaning them, and
color coding them, and tripping over them, and hiding them (to make the
stage look less cluttered.) Maybe someone will chime in and correct me that
wireless system have sonic or setup problems that make "wired" mics a better
choice. Just a thought.
Gear aside, it sounds like playing out may be a new thing for you? If
so, even if you're playing through the most basic of setups -its an absolute
gas.
Cheers, MR

"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:4621bccb$1@linux...
> OK,
>
> My talented young music slaves have convinced me we should leave the
> safety of the studio once in a while and do some "shows." (I guess they
> call 'em "shows" these days?)
>
> Aside from needing a bass player and a living violinist, we also need
> some kind of little PA system to rehearse with. Ideally, we'd like
> something that would also work for small venues, like coffee shops, record
> stores, parties, etc. The all-in-one package systems are tempting (was
> looking at a Yamaha EMX212S), but I want to make sure it sounds good and
has
> feedback control in a small rehearsal space, etc. You know.
>
> Ideally, we'd like to spend less than 6 or 7 hundred, but I'm pretty
out
> of touch with the gear world, and we'll do what we need to do.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sarah
>
> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>
>
Re: OT: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83143 is a reply to message #83092] Sun, 15 April 2007 22:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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If you were closer to Colorado I'd come play violin with you!

Good luck with the PA search. If it's just for vocals you can probably
get by with that budget.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


Sarah wrote:
> OK,
>
> My talented young music slaves have convinced me we should leave the
> safety of the studio once in a while and do some "shows." (I guess they
> call 'em "shows" these days?)
>
> Aside from needing a bass player and a living violinist, we also need
> some kind of little PA system to rehearse with. Ideally, we'd like
> something that would also work for small venues, like coffee shops, record
> stores, parties, etc. The all-in-one package systems are tempting (was
> looking at a Yamaha EMX212S), but I want to make sure it sounds good and has
> feedback control in a small rehearsal space, etc. You know.
>
> Ideally, we'd like to spend less than 6 or 7 hundred, but I'm pretty out
> of touch with the gear world, and we'll do what we need to do.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sarah
>
> www.sarahtonin.com/wayward.htm
>
>
Re: OT: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83165 is a reply to message #83143] Mon, 16 April 2007 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
steve the artguy is currently offline  steve the artguy
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Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>If you were closer to Colorado I'd come play violin with you!
>

yeah, and I'd play bass and sing backup!

Folks around here with long memories might remember that I tend to the dirt
cheap end of things. I now live by Craigslist. I picked up a 30 watt Roland
monitor the other day that has an xlr in as well as three channels of line
and instrument in, and the other day I had two keyboards going through it,
playing bass on one, and it sounded stunning.

I do a duo thing with a singing guitar player, and we both have Ibanez amps
(did you even know they made them? I didn't until I went to the local guitar
shop to check out cheap Fender bass amps) -- I have a bass amp and the other
guy has a guitar amp (with an xlr in) which he sings and plays through. I
have a tiny mixer which I use to put my vocals as well as bass through mine.
Everyone in a small cafe we play in says it sounds great. No monitors needed
- we just set up with the amps somewhat behind us. On the lastest of these
gigs I used my new monitor instead of the mixer, and it sounded even better.

Both these Ibanez amps were under $200. Astounding.

-steve

my little bass amp:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-SW65-65W-Bass- Amp?sku=480137&src=3SOSWXXA

my friend's guitar/vocal amp:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--IBATA35

my little Roland monitor:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLCM30
Re: OT: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83188 is a reply to message #83165] Mon, 16 April 2007 15:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
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steve the artguy wrote:
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> If you were closer to Colorado I'd come play violin with you!
>>
>
> yeah, and I'd play bass and sing backup!

That would be great!

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com



> Folks around here with long memories might remember that I tend to the dirt
> cheap end of things. I now live by Craigslist. I picked up a 30 watt Roland
> monitor the other day that has an xlr in as well as three channels of line
> and instrument in, and the other day I had two keyboards going through it,
> playing bass on one, and it sounded stunning.
>
> I do a duo thing with a singing guitar player, and we both have Ibanez amps
> (did you even know they made them? I didn't until I went to the local guitar
> shop to check out cheap Fender bass amps) -- I have a bass amp and the other
> guy has a guitar amp (with an xlr in) which he sings and plays through. I
> have a tiny mixer which I use to put my vocals as well as bass through mine.
> Everyone in a small cafe we play in says it sounds great. No monitors needed
> - we just set up with the amps somewhat behind us. On the lastest of these
> gigs I used my new monitor instead of the mixer, and it sounded even better.
> Both these Ibanez amps were under $200. Astounding.

> -steve
>
> my little bass amp:
> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-SW65-65W-Bass- Amp?sku=480137&src=3SOSWXXA
>
> my friend's guitar/vocal amp:
> http://www.zzounds.com/item--IBATA35
>
> my little Roland monitor:
> http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLCM30
Re: OT: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83207 is a reply to message #83188] Mon, 16 April 2007 21:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
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Well, come on guys . . move to Portland. It'll be a nice tropical island
off the coast of Oregon in a few years. :)

And thanks everyone for the advice on this. Our lovely and talented lead
guitarist works in a local music store, so we'll probably go with whatever
he can get us the best deal on.

Sarah


"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4623f662@linux...
> steve the artguy wrote:
>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>> If you were closer to Colorado I'd come play violin with you!
>>>
>>
>> yeah, and I'd play bass and sing backup!
>
> That would be great!
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
>> Folks around here with long memories might remember that I tend to the
>> dirt
>> cheap end of things. I now live by Craigslist. I picked up a 30 watt
>> Roland
>> monitor the other day that has an xlr in as well as three channels of
>> line
>> and instrument in, and the other day I had two keyboards going through
>> it,
>> playing bass on one, and it sounded stunning.
>>
>> I do a duo thing with a singing guitar player, and we both have Ibanez
>> amps
>> (did you even know they made them? I didn't until I went to the local
>> guitar
>> shop to check out cheap Fender bass amps) -- I have a bass amp and the
>> other
>> guy has a guitar amp (with an xlr in) which he sings and plays through. I
>> have a tiny mixer which I use to put my vocals as well as bass through
>> mine.
>> Everyone in a small cafe we play in says it sounds great. No monitors
>> needed
>> - we just set up with the amps somewhat behind us. On the lastest of
>> these
>> gigs I used my new monitor instead of the mixer, and it sounded even
>> better.
>> Both these Ibanez amps were under $200. Astounding.
>
>> -steve
>>
>> my little bass amp:
>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-SW65-65W-Bass- Amp?sku=480137&src=3SOSWXXA
>>
>> my friend's guitar/vocal amp:
>> http://www.zzounds.com/item--IBATA35
>>
>> my little Roland monitor:
>> http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLCM30
Re: OT: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83230 is a reply to message #83207] Tue, 17 April 2007 01:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
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Sarah wrote:
> Well, come on guys . . move to Portland. It'll be a nice tropical island
> off the coast of Oregon in a few years. :)

OK, save us some prime beach front property...

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com



> And thanks everyone for the advice on this. Our lovely and talented lead
> guitarist works in a local music store, so we'll probably go with whatever
> he can get us the best deal on.
>
> Sarah
>
>
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4623f662@linux...
>> steve the artguy wrote:
>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>> If you were closer to Colorado I'd come play violin with you!
>>>>
>>> yeah, and I'd play bass and sing backup!
>> That would be great!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>>> Folks around here with long memories might remember that I tend to the
>>> dirt
>>> cheap end of things. I now live by Craigslist. I picked up a 30 watt
>>> Roland
>>> monitor the other day that has an xlr in as well as three channels of
>>> line
>>> and instrument in, and the other day I had two keyboards going through
>>> it,
>>> playing bass on one, and it sounded stunning.
>>>
>>> I do a duo thing with a singing guitar player, and we both have Ibanez
>>> amps
>>> (did you even know they made them? I didn't until I went to the local
>>> guitar
>>> shop to check out cheap Fender bass amps) -- I have a bass amp and the
>>> other
>>> guy has a guitar amp (with an xlr in) which he sings and plays through. I
>>> have a tiny mixer which I use to put my vocals as well as bass through
>>> mine.
>>> Everyone in a small cafe we play in says it sounds great. No monitors
>>> needed
>>> - we just set up with the amps somewhat behind us. On the lastest of
>>> these
>>> gigs I used my new monitor instead of the mixer, and it sounded even
>>> better.
>>> Both these Ibanez amps were under $200. Astounding.
>>> -steve
>>>
>>> my little bass amp:
>>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-SW65-65W-Bass- Amp?sku=480137&src=3SOSWXXA
>>>
>>> my friend's guitar/vocal amp:
>>> http://www.zzounds.com/item--IBATA35
>>>
>>> my little Roland monitor:
>>> http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLCM30
>
>
Re: OT: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83272 is a reply to message #83230] Tue, 17 April 2007 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
steve the artguy is currently offline  steve the artguy
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Registered: June 2005
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ok, Jamie, by no popular demand whatsoever, here is an example of that very
bass playing through that very amp, just last Saturday:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=K6NKYdwhE90

which happens to showcase the one point, in two hours of performance, where
not only the singer forgets the words, but the guitar player and I drop a
beat.

I'm proud. And you see the shiny forehead where hair was last time you saw
me.

(there are two other videos posted there, too, but they are from a video
camera and the sound and video are unaccountably about a second off.)

-steve

Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>Sarah wrote:
>> Well, come on guys . . move to Portland. It'll be a nice tropical island

>> off the coast of Oregon in a few years. :)
>
>OK, save us some prime beach front property...
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
>> And thanks everyone for the advice on this. Our lovely and talented lead

>> guitarist works in a local music store, so we'll probably go with whatever

>> he can get us the best deal on.
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>>
>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4623f662@linux...
>>> steve the artguy wrote:
>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>> If you were closer to Colorado I'd come play violin with you!
>>>>>
>>>> yeah, and I'd play bass and sing backup!
>>> That would be great!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Folks around here with long memories might remember that I tend to the

>>>> dirt
>>>> cheap end of things. I now live by Craigslist. I picked up a 30 watt

>>>> Roland
>>>> monitor the other day that has an xlr in as well as three channels of

>>>> line
>>>> and instrument in, and the other day I had two keyboards going through

>>>> it,
>>>> playing bass on one, and it sounded stunning.
>>>>
>>>> I do a duo thing with a singing guitar player, and we both have Ibanez

>>>> amps
>>>> (did you even know they made them? I didn't until I went to the local

>>>> guitar
>>>> shop to check out cheap Fender bass amps) -- I have a bass amp and the

>>>> other
>>>> guy has a guitar amp (with an xlr in) which he sings and plays through.
I
>>>> have a tiny mixer which I use to put my vocals as well as bass through

>>>> mine.
>>>> Everyone in a small cafe we play in says it sounds great. No monitors

>>>> needed
>>>> - we just set up with the amps somewhat behind us. On the lastest of

>>>> these
>>>> gigs I used my new monitor instead of the mixer, and it sounded even

>>>> better.
>>>> Both these Ibanez amps were under $200. Astounding.
>>>> -steve
>>>>
>>>> my little bass amp:
>>>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-SW65-65W-Bass- Amp?sku=480137&src=3SOSWXXA
>>>>
>>>> my friend's guitar/vocal amp:
>>>> http://www.zzounds.com/item--IBATA35
>>>>
>>>> my little Roland monitor:
>>>> http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLCM30
>>
>>
Re: OT: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83274 is a reply to message #83272] Tue, 17 April 2007 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [4] is currently offline  Deej [4]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
Senior Member
Hmmm..........Pamela Joyce??.........I have a cousin somewhere named Pamela
Joyce......I think.......

"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote in message
news:462516bc$1@linux...
>
> ok, Jamie, by no popular demand whatsoever, here is an example of that
> very
> bass playing through that very amp, just last Saturday:
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=K6NKYdwhE90
>
> which happens to showcase the one point, in two hours of performance,
> where
> not only the singer forgets the words, but the guitar player and I drop a
> beat.
>
> I'm proud. And you see the shiny forehead where hair was last time you saw
> me.
>
> (there are two other videos posted there, too, but they are from a video
> camera and the sound and video are unaccountably about a second off.)
>
> -steve
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>Sarah wrote:
>>> Well, come on guys . . move to Portland. It'll be a nice tropical
>>> island
>
>>> off the coast of Oregon in a few years. :)
>>
>>OK, save us some prime beach front property...
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>>> And thanks everyone for the advice on this. Our lovely and talented
>>> lead
>
>>> guitarist works in a local music store, so we'll probably go with
>>> whatever
>
>>> he can get us the best deal on.
>>>
>>> Sarah
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4623f662@linux...
>>>> steve the artguy wrote:
>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>> If you were closer to Colorado I'd come play violin with you!
>>>>>>
>>>>> yeah, and I'd play bass and sing backup!
>>>> That would be great!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Folks around here with long memories might remember that I tend to the
>
>>>>> dirt
>>>>> cheap end of things. I now live by Craigslist. I picked up a 30 watt
>
>>>>> Roland
>>>>> monitor the other day that has an xlr in as well as three channels of
>
>>>>> line
>>>>> and instrument in, and the other day I had two keyboards going through
>
>>>>> it,
>>>>> playing bass on one, and it sounded stunning.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do a duo thing with a singing guitar player, and we both have Ibanez
>
>>>>> amps
>>>>> (did you even know they made them? I didn't until I went to the local
>
>>>>> guitar
>>>>> shop to check out cheap Fender bass amps) -- I have a bass amp and the
>
>>>>> other
>>>>> guy has a guitar amp (with an xlr in) which he sings and plays
>>>>> through.
> I
>>>>> have a tiny mixer which I use to put my vocals as well as bass through
>
>>>>> mine.
>>>>> Everyone in a small cafe we play in says it sounds great. No monitors
>
>>>>> needed
>>>>> - we just set up with the amps somewhat behind us. On the lastest of
>
>>>>> these
>>>>> gigs I used my new monitor instead of the mixer, and it sounded even
>
>>>>> better.
>>>>> Both these Ibanez amps were under $200. Astounding.
>>>>> -steve
>>>>>
>>>>> my little bass amp:
>>>>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-SW65-65W-Bass- Amp?sku=480137&src=3SOSWXXA
>>>>>
>>>>> my friend's guitar/vocal amp:
>>>>> http://www.zzounds.com/item--IBATA35
>>>>>
>>>>> my little Roland monitor:
>>>>> http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLCM30
>>>
>>>
>
Re: OT: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83278 is a reply to message #83274] Tue, 17 April 2007 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
steve the artguy is currently offline  steve the artguy
Messages: 308
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Hmmm..........Pamela Joyce??.........I have a cousin somewhere named Pamela

>Joyce......I think.......
>

i just met her a couple of weeks ago. Her web page is here:

http://www.funkswayband.com/pj.htm

-steve
Re: OT: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83283 is a reply to message #83272] Tue, 17 April 2007 14:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jamie K is currently offline  Jamie K   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
Thanks for sharing, Steve! Sounds good and looks like you were all
having a great time.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com


steve the artguy wrote:
> ok, Jamie, by no popular demand whatsoever, here is an example of that very
> bass playing through that very amp, just last Saturday:
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=K6NKYdwhE90
>
> which happens to showcase the one point, in two hours of performance, where
> not only the singer forgets the words, but the guitar player and I drop a
> beat.
>
> I'm proud. And you see the shiny forehead where hair was last time you saw
> me.
>
> (there are two other videos posted there, too, but they are from a video
> camera and the sound and video are unaccountably about a second off.)
>
> -steve
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> Sarah wrote:
>>> Well, come on guys . . move to Portland. It'll be a nice tropical island
>
>>> off the coast of Oregon in a few years. :)
>> OK, save us some prime beach front property...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>>> And thanks everyone for the advice on this. Our lovely and talented lead
>
>>> guitarist works in a local music store, so we'll probably go with whatever
>
>>> he can get us the best deal on.
>>>
>>> Sarah
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4623f662@linux...
>>>> steve the artguy wrote:
>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>> If you were closer to Colorado I'd come play violin with you!
>>>>>>
>>>>> yeah, and I'd play bass and sing backup!
>>>> That would be great!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Folks around here with long memories might remember that I tend to the
>
>>>>> dirt
>>>>> cheap end of things. I now live by Craigslist. I picked up a 30 watt
>
>>>>> Roland
>>>>> monitor the other day that has an xlr in as well as three channels of
>
>>>>> line
>>>>> and instrument in, and the other day I had two keyboards going through
>
>>>>> it,
>>>>> playing bass on one, and it sounded stunning.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do a duo thing with a singing guitar player, and we both have Ibanez
>
>>>>> amps
>>>>> (did you even know they made them? I didn't until I went to the local
>
>>>>> guitar
>>>>> shop to check out cheap Fender bass amps) -- I have a bass amp and the
>
>>>>> other
>>>>> guy has a guitar amp (with an xlr in) which he sings and plays through.
> I
>>>>> have a tiny mixer which I use to put my vocals as well as bass through
>
>>>>> mine.
>>>>> Everyone in a small cafe we play in says it sounds great. No monitors
>
>>>>> needed
>>>>> - we just set up with the amps somewhat behind us. On the lastest of
>
>>>>> these
>>>>> gigs I used my new monitor instead of the mixer, and it sounded even
>
>>>>> better.
>>>>> Both these Ibanez amps were under $200. Astounding.
>>>>> -steve
>>>>>
>>>>> my little bass amp:
>>>>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-SW65-65W-Bass- Amp?sku=480137&src=3SOSWXXA
>>>>>
>>>>> my friend's guitar/vocal amp:
>>>>> http://www.zzounds.com/item--IBATA35
>>>>>
>>>>> my little Roland monitor:
>>>>> http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLCM30
>>>
>
Re: OT: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83288 is a reply to message #83278] Tue, 17 April 2007 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nil is currently offline  Nil
Messages: 245
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"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>i just met her a couple of weeks ago. Her web page is here:
>
>http://www.funkswayband.com/pj.htm

Funk-Sway? The ancient Chinese art of gettin' down wit it?

:)
Re: OT: Sarahtonin . . . LIVE! . . . maybe [message #83311 is a reply to message #83272] Wed, 18 April 2007 03:35 Go to previous message
Sarah is currently offline  Sarah   UNITED STATES
Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007
Senior Member
Cool. :) What is that? Looks like a relative of that Paul McCartney type
thang. Love that song, by the way.

Sarah


"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote in message
news:462516bc$1@linux...
>
> ok, Jamie, by no popular demand whatsoever, here is an example of that
> very
> bass playing through that very amp, just last Saturday:
>
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=K6NKYdwhE90
>
> which happens to showcase the one point, in two hours of performance,
> where
> not only the singer forgets the words, but the guitar player and I drop a
> beat.
>
> I'm proud. And you see the shiny forehead where hair was last time you saw
> me.
>
> (there are two other videos posted there, too, but they are from a video
> camera and the sound and video are unaccountably about a second off.)
>
> -steve
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>Sarah wrote:
>>> Well, come on guys . . move to Portland. It'll be a nice tropical
>>> island
>
>>> off the coast of Oregon in a few years. :)
>>
>>OK, save us some prime beach front property...
>>
>>Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>>
>>> And thanks everyone for the advice on this. Our lovely and talented
>>> lead
>
>>> guitarist works in a local music store, so we'll probably go with
>>> whatever
>
>>> he can get us the best deal on.
>>>
>>> Sarah
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4623f662@linux...
>>>> steve the artguy wrote:
>>>>> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>>>>>> If you were closer to Colorado I'd come play violin with you!
>>>>>>
>>>>> yeah, and I'd play bass and sing backup!
>>>> That would be great!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> -Jamie
>>>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Folks around here with long memories might remember that I tend to the
>
>>>>> dirt
>>>>> cheap end of things. I now live by Craigslist. I picked up a 30 watt
>
>>>>> Roland
>>>>> monitor the other day that has an xlr in as well as three channels of
>
>>>>> line
>>>>> and instrument in, and the other day I had two keyboards going through
>
>>>>> it,
>>>>> playing bass on one, and it sounded stunning.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do a duo thing with a singing guitar player, and we both have Ibanez
>
>>>>> amps
>>>>> (did you even know they made them? I didn't until I went to the local
>
>>>>> guitar
>>>>> shop to check out cheap Fender bass amps) -- I have a bass amp and the
>
>>>>> other
>>>>> guy has a guitar amp (with an xlr in) which he sings and plays
>>>>> through.
> I
>>>>> have a tiny mixer which I use to put my vocals as well as bass through
>
>>>>> mine.
>>>>> Everyone in a small cafe we play in says it sounds great. No monitors
>
>>>>> needed
>>>>> - we just set up with the amps somewhat behind us. On the lastest of
>
>>>>> these
>>>>> gigs I used my new monitor instead of the mixer, and it sounded even
>
>>>>> better.
>>>>> Both these Ibanez amps were under $200. Astounding.
>>>>> -steve
>>>>>
>>>>> my little bass amp:
>>>>> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Ibanez-SW65-65W-Bass- Amp?sku=480137&src=3SOSWXXA
>>>>>
>>>>> my friend's guitar/vocal amp:
>>>>> http://www.zzounds.com/item--IBATA35
>>>>>
>>>>> my little Roland monitor:
>>>>> http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLCM30
>>>
>>>
>
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