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mani1147 is currently offline  mani1147   CANADA
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Hi guys, I am planning a new DAW build for my 3 card PARIS sys. I am upgrading from a P4 2.8 and looking for a good cross between performance, value, quietness and compatibility with our old friend PARIS (using Mike's multi core driver of course).
Is there anything I am missing that would improve my performance/value ratio while still keeping the 4PCI mobo?

Thanks in advance
Robert

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http:// www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115214& nm_mc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Conte nt-_-text-_-Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core ProcessorIntel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor 0.13638217193460783

Antec Sonata III 500 Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 500W Power Supply 16.7" (H) x 18.2" (D) x 8.1" (W)
GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD3L LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard

GIGABYTE GV-R455D3-512I Radeon HD 4550 512MB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
LITE-ON Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW SATA CD/DVD Burner

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1333LV4GK
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

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Re: New DAW build [message #104620 is a reply to message #104573] Sun, 17 January 2010 18:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mani1147 is currently offline  mani1147   CANADA
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Well, almost ready to hit the old submit button on the order.
Man I hate the feeling of "The Unknown" whenever my wallet is concerned...!
I know I'll have to mode the case a bit to fit the EDSs in there but the main issue is the compatibility of the UD3L mobo with the EDS cards.
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Re: New DAW build [message #104626 is a reply to message #104620] Mon, 18 January 2010 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ted Gerber is currently offline  Ted Gerber   CANADA
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The drive carriages on the Sonata case will have to cut back...

Ted

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Re: New DAW build [message #104627 is a reply to message #104626] Mon, 18 January 2010 18:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mani1147 is currently offline  mani1147   CANADA
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Hi Ted, yea that's what I'm planning on, cutting the 3 bottom bays out and leaving the 2 top ones, as long as I can fit an OS and a DATA drive in there, I should be ok.

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Re: New DAW build [message #104632 is a reply to message #104627] Mon, 18 January 2010 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ted Gerber is currently offline  Ted Gerber   CANADA
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Let me know how it goes. I still have mine, and maybe I'll switch things back into it... Shocked

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Re: New DAW build [message #104656 is a reply to message #104632] Thu, 21 January 2010 20:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mani1147 is currently offline  mani1147   CANADA
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Well Ted, the case showed up today, now if the mobo can get here, I'll know exactly how much room I need for the EDS cards and then its lookout, the dremel is in the house...!!

Must say, its a very impressive case for the price.

[Updated on: Thu, 21 January 2010 20:58]

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Re: New DAW build [message #104657 is a reply to message #104656] Thu, 21 January 2010 21:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ted Gerber is currently offline  Ted Gerber   CANADA
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Yeah I ended up with an old beater from the back shed. But since it's outside my little control room, in a closet, I'm not too concerned.

Ted

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Re: New DAW build [message #104712 is a reply to message #104656] Sat, 30 January 2010 10:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rsi77 is currently offline  rsi77   UNITED STATES
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Keep us posted how your new build goes. I'm about ready to make a new box for Paris with SATA 3 and I'm curious how these newer MB's are working out for people.

Ron

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Re: New DAW build [message #104714 is a reply to message #104712] Sun, 31 January 2010 21:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mani1147 is currently offline  mani1147   CANADA
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Hi Ron, the only big hick-up so far has been bad Ram, gotta send it back tomorrow and wait for replacement. One Dimm passed "Windows Memory Diagnostic" perfectly every time but the other was intermittent and we all know Paris can get real grumpy with bad Ram....!!

The mobo's Sata connections are not well placed on the board, in order to get the EDS cards happily seated, one would need some ultra low profile angled sata cables to do it correctly. I just used the ones that came with the mobo and with a rather funky bend and some electrical tape, got them to fit but its not the ideal setup.

The case mod went without a hitch, was actually less work than I thought, 5 minutes with the dremil and shopvac and it was ready to go, I have some pics I'll put up here. I even fit the spare case fan in the front to cool off the 3 EDS cards. Only 2 HD bays left though.

The video card worked great with my matrox dualhead2go and all 3 monitors are up and 2 of them switching properly with the USB KVM switch.

The system is working great so far, I had it up all weekend running on 1 good stick of 2GB DDR3 Ram and man, what a diff from the old P4. Its as if Paris is out of the mud and onto solid ground where it can dig in and get some pretty mean traction. Cant wait to really put it to the test.

Take care
Rob_A

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Re: New DAW build [message #104723 is a reply to message #104714] Thu, 04 February 2010 11:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mani1147 is currently offline  mani1147   CANADA
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Here are a few pics of the DAW build.

This is the Case mod to fit 3 EDS cards.
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Cleaned off the intel heat compound to apply the good stuff.
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The top EDS card in place with mounted CPU/fan on mobo.
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I ended up covering the cut edge with electrical tape. I'm sure some of those EDS pins would not appreciate a sudden dose of case ground.
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The 3 EDS cards in place with the UAD1 PCI and the PCIe video card up above, extra case fan in the front. The 3 remaining HD bays but only 2 can be used because of the extra fan in the front.
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Notice the Sata cables underneath the EDS cards, this was probably the most funky part of the build. Like I said, low profiles left angle Sata cables would do a nice job here, I will probably get some in my next order.
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Before I sent the ram back for replacement, I had the box working on 2gig ram, XPPro, Paris 3.0 with Mikes drivers and I was very impressed. Now its back to the P4 till the replacement ram to gets here.
Cheers
Robert A
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Re: New DAW build [message #104795 is a reply to message #104723] Wed, 17 February 2010 12:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mani1147 is currently offline  mani1147   CANADA
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Was getting some dropouts in wavelab and also Paris was acting a bit funky with "ASSERTION FAILED: aGDIWin.c:376 cp" every now and then. After a couple hours of googling/reading, I found that there are some advance bios/CPU settings that limit the voltage to the CPU to save energy during idle, I think it was called C1E in my bios but also goes by Speedstep, after disabling this, the box is working like a dream, 3 hours in and not 1 dropout.

Just thought I'd share in case I can help out some other poor soul who has even less hair than I do....!!!

Rob_A

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Re: New DAW build [message #104797 is a reply to message #104795] Wed, 17 February 2010 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Congrats, you made the Wiki Very Happy

When we get insights like that, we ain't *never* letting them go.

"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon

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Re: New DAW build [message #104801 is a reply to message #104573] Wed, 17 February 2010 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
drfrankencopter is currently offline  drfrankencopter   UNITED STATES
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I'm building a new Paris DAW using the same Mobo and processor. I just ordered the parts on Monday, and will provide updates on the build. I'm also doing a 3 EDS card system, and might also put in my UAD-1 (not sure yet).

I'm moving from an antiquated Athlon 2100, and I'm expecting some big speed improvements.

Thanks for the BIOS tip!!!

Cheers

KRis

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Re: New DAW build [message #104803 is a reply to message #104801] Wed, 17 February 2010 14:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mani1147 is currently offline  mani1147   CANADA
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You're welcom Kris, all is good so far here with the new box. Keep us posted of your build.

Rob_A

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Re: New DAW build [message #104882 is a reply to message #104573] Thu, 25 February 2010 01:45 Go to previous message
rokuez is currently offline  rokuez   UNITED STATES
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I really like your daw build




I would think of going with a rack mount PC case

any cons anyone can see to this



I'd really like to have FOUR EDS cards , waiting for my friend hungaristan to describe his new Paris rig for win7!

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