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Well......since no one is interested in the Forte development solution,........ [message #74073] Sat, 14 October 2006 18:19 Go to next message
animix is currently offline  animix   UNITED STATES
Messages: 356
Registered: September 2006
Senior Member
I'm doing a 36 track mix in Cubase SX right now with 8 x stereo stems routed
to Paris submix 1. Very stable. Sounding better and better as I go. I feel
sorta' like I just stepped in poo, but as I get the hang of it I'm thinking
I just might be able to achieve something *very nice*.
Neil/Martin/LaMont/Dedric..et al, are correct about the mix bus being much
improved these days. It's just a different journey to get there.

I'd *really* like to get this thing happening with Forte but unless we can
get enough folks together to justify it for the developer, We're getting
close to finishing some tracking on a project here and the mixes are coming
up pretty soon so it's getting to be close to time to take off the lab coat,
put Igor back in the dungeon and think in terms of getting these up and
ready to go.

I've thought through using 3 x computers running Forte. I would need to get
another Multiface and another UAD-1 to get this happening the way I need to
and the thought of simultaneously digitally bussing multiple outboard FX
processors through three computers is making me sorta queasy. Without each
interface receiving a BNC feed directly off the house clock (which they
can't do), this is a trainwreck in the making and then I'm back to square 1.
I would have to do this in order to accomplish the aux routing across
submixes that I would want to do and I'm already fried just thinking about
this one.

(sigh)
Re: Well......since no one is interested in the Forte development solution,........ [message #74075 is a reply to message #74073] Sat, 14 October 2006 19:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
animix is currently offline  animix   UNITED STATES
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"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:45318cbc@linux...
> I'm doing a 36 track mix in Cubase SX right now with 8 x stereo stems
routed
> to Paris submix 1. Very stable. Sounding better and better as I go. I feel
> sorta' like I just stepped in poo, but as I get the hang of it I'm
thinking
> I just might be able to achieve something *very nice*.
> Neil/Martin/LaMont/Dedric..et al, are correct about the mix bus being much
> improved these days. It's just a different journey to get there.
>
> I'd *really* like to get this thing happening with Forte but unless we can
> get enough folks together to justify it for the developer, We're getting
> close to finishing some tracking on a project here and the mixes are
coming
> up pretty soon so it's getting to be close to time to take off the lab
coat,
> put Igor back in the dungeon and think in terms of getting these up and
> ready to go.
>
> I've thought through using 3 x computers running Forte. I would need to
get
> another Multiface and another UAD-1 to get this happening the way I need
to
> and the thought of simultaneously digitally bussing multiple outboard FX
> processors through three computers is making me sorta queasy. Without each
> interface receiving a BNC feed directly off the house clock (which they
> can't do), this is a trainwreck in the making and then I'm back to square
1.
> I would have to do this in order to accomplish the aux routing across
> submixes that I would want to do and I'm already fried just thinking about
> this one.
>
> (sigh)
>
Well, after getting a stem mix scenario going in this way, I discovered that
the bussing of my outboard FX to any track I want in the mix is compromised
by stem mixing. I have to send the external processor to either one stem bus
or another. The way I've got this configured in original track-to-track
Paris mix template, I can access any external processor or VST plugin as a
send effect on *any* track and control the global send throughthe Paris aux
so I guess I've achieved the pinnacle of what I want to do at this point.
I'm going to keep my eye on Forte though. If it ever evolves to the point
that it can access unlimited plugins and as many busses as there are I/O,
I'll definitly be all over it.

Well....it's been a fun journey. I enjoy experimentation like this when I've
got the time (and entertaining some of you) I'm back to tracking in Paris
and streaming track to track from SX to Paris during the mix. It does
everything I could ever want and then some. I just need to get a little
faster at it I guess.

I guess I'll try to wrap my head around Macro Express.

;o)
Re: Well......since no one is interested in the Forte development solution,........ [message #74077 is a reply to message #74075] Sat, 14 October 2006 23:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
Senior Member
Hey Deej! I'm just throwing stuff up against the wall to see if anything
sticks. Did you ever try the Steinberg distributed processing thing? It's
were you can hook up multiple machines with light pipe, for more processing
power.

What about using forte in the same machine? Did you try the Solid Sound
Studio's Aux Bus Set software for forte?

Here it is again:
http://www.solidsoundstudio.net/index.html

Mono with pan???
http://www.solidsoundstudio.net/html/basic_strip.html

Forte extras page:
http://www.brainspawn.com/products/forte/?op=extras

Thinking out side the brain; )

James

"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote:
>
>"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:45318cbc@linux...
>> I'm doing a 36 track mix in Cubase SX right now with 8 x stereo stems
>routed
>> to Paris submix 1. Very stable. Sounding better and better as I go. I
feel
>> sorta' like I just stepped in poo, but as I get the hang of it I'm
>thinking
>> I just might be able to achieve something *very nice*.
>> Neil/Martin/LaMont/Dedric..et al, are correct about the mix bus being
much
>> improved these days. It's just a different journey to get there.
>>
>> I'd *really* like to get this thing happening with Forte but unless we
can
>> get enough folks together to justify it for the developer, We're getting
>> close to finishing some tracking on a project here and the mixes are
>coming
>> up pretty soon so it's getting to be close to time to take off the lab
>coat,
>> put Igor back in the dungeon and think in terms of getting these up and
>> ready to go.
>>
>> I've thought through using 3 x computers running Forte. I would need to
>get
>> another Multiface and another UAD-1 to get this happening the way I need
>to
>> and the thought of simultaneously digitally bussing multiple outboard
FX
>> processors through three computers is making me sorta queasy. Without
each
>> interface receiving a BNC feed directly off the house clock (which they
>> can't do), this is a trainwreck in the making and then I'm back to square
>1.
>> I would have to do this in order to accomplish the aux routing across
>> submixes that I would want to do and I'm already fried just thinking about
>> this one.
>>
>> (sigh)
>>
>Well, after getting a stem mix scenario going in this way, I discovered
that
>the bussing of my outboard FX to any track I want in the mix is compromised
>by stem mixing. I have to send the external processor to either one stem
bus
>or another. The way I've got this configured in original track-to-track
>Paris mix template, I can access any external processor or VST plugin as
a
>send effect on *any* track and control the global send throughthe Paris
aux
>so I guess I've achieved the pinnacle of what I want to do at this point.
>I'm going to keep my eye on Forte though. If it ever evolves to the point
>that it can access unlimited plugins and as many busses as there are I/O,
>I'll definitly be all over it.
>
>Well....it's been a fun journey. I enjoy experimentation like this when
I've
>got the time (and entertaining some of you) I'm back to tracking in Paris
>and streaming track to track from SX to Paris during the mix. It does
>everything I could ever want and then some. I just need to get a little
>faster at it I guess.
>
>I guess I'll try to wrap my head around Macro Express.
>
>;o)
>
>
Re: Well......since no one is interested in the Forte development solution,........ [message #74118 is a reply to message #74073] Sun, 15 October 2006 23:45 Go to previous message
Miguel Vigil [1] is currently offline  Miguel Vigil [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 258
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
Hello DeeJ,

Stellar research even if we be funnin' ya all the time.

I have one idea to shoot to your peeps at Brainspawn Forte and that is to
proved just a simple VST to host DX plugins for the Cubase 4 crowd,
now that Steinberg has dropped DX support forever.

It seems like Forte already does that, but with all the bells and whistles,
the price of admission seems a bit high.

Regards,

el (to far behind the times) miguel







"DJ" <notachance@net.net> wrote in message news:45318cbc@linux...
> I'm doing a 36 track mix in Cubase SX right now with 8 x stereo stems
> routed
> to Paris submix 1. Very stable. Sounding better and better as I go. I feel
> sorta' like I just stepped in poo, but as I get the hang of it I'm
> thinking
> I just might be able to achieve something *very nice*.
> Neil/Martin/LaMont/Dedric..et al, are correct about the mix bus being much
> improved these days. It's just a different journey to get there.
>
> I'd *really* like to get this thing happening with Forte but unless we can
> get enough folks together to justify it for the developer, We're getting
> close to finishing some tracking on a project here and the mixes are
> coming
> up pretty soon so it's getting to be close to time to take off the lab
> coat,
> put Igor back in the dungeon and think in terms of getting these up and
> ready to go.
>
> I've thought through using 3 x computers running Forte. I would need to
> get
> another Multiface and another UAD-1 to get this happening the way I need
> to
> and the thought of simultaneously digitally bussing multiple outboard FX
> processors through three computers is making me sorta queasy. Without each
> interface receiving a BNC feed directly off the house clock (which they
> can't do), this is a trainwreck in the making and then I'm back to square
> 1.
> I would have to do this in order to accomplish the aux routing across
> submixes that I would want to do and I'm already fried just thinking about
> this one.
>
> (sigh)
>
>
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