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| Re: Paris challenge [message #69477 is a reply to message #69461] |
Sun, 18 June 2006 15:30   |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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As I said, a large chuck of the issue lies not in how you're processing it,
but in the fact that the initial sounds are quite different from what's on
the record...
....IMHO.
If you get the sounds themselves matched better it will make it much easier.
If you can't match the sounds better, no amount of processing will help.
Just my 2 cents.
Cheers,
Kim.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>Hi Kim, I appreciate the file. I took a listen and while the kick is
more
>tame, I seem to be a long way from the reference goal I'm going for. I'll
>have to see if my little brain can figure out how to get this sound. Drum
>sounds are pretty new to me so I need all the help I can get.
>
>Thanks,
>John
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>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>If you like it I'll send you the project file for it. You can have a look
>>yourself.
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>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
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>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks a lot. I can listen to it tomorrow. Can you tell me what you
did
>>>to treat it?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>John
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>>Yes, indeed.
>>>>
>>>>...or, indeed, like the one Shania has. ;o)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Jimmy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>> and a nice tight bottom on it like the Shania one has.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Paris challenge [message #69502 is a reply to message #69480] |
Mon, 19 June 2006 11:46 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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John,
I like putting a 2 band Waves EQ in front of a La2a from
the UAD for the smacked sound you're talking about.
The EQ is just for gain reduction into the La2a to eliminate
clipping of the Native insert area. Of course you can always
adjust the La2a input also but this will give you more headroom
before the 'sound' of the input being raised/lowered on the
La2a.
Tom
"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4495f403$1@linux...
I'm trying to do the New York Drum Compression Trick where you squish =
one
mix of drums and let the raw channels just peek over the tops.
I'm in Paris and can't seem to squish enough. Every compressor I try =
(waves
C4,C1, RenComp, sonalksis, timeworks, Ultrafunk, blockfish, etc...) =
don't
seem to narrow the dynamic range much at all. They seem to drop the =
volume
as they narrow but with make up gain they sound very mildly compressed =
and
not all that impressive. I definitely understand compressors but =
anything
more than 3:1 seem to have artifacts.
Any serious squishing results in the kick distorting too. Here is a =
drum
track. Can anyone give me some tips please on getting the drumsound =
below?
http://tinyurl.com/rpu78
This is the sound I'm going for:
http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
Thanks in advance.
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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| Re: Paris challenge [message #69547 is a reply to message #69539] |
Tue, 20 June 2006 11:54 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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gearsluts...only cuz the q is the same one here about drum
dom[pression. anyhoo, i run one stereo pair through the amek at one
setting and then 2 mono sends through a distressor set to nuke with
the input on 9 attack on 5 and release on 9...squishy.
On 20 Jun 2006 20:55:10 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>I don't know. What's a 'gs'?
>hehe
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>is that you...you cute little monkey you on gs?
>>
>>On 19 Jun 2006 10:46:59 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I'm trying to do the New York Drum Compression Trick where you squish one
>>>mix of drums and let the raw channels just peek over the tops.
>>>
>>>I'm in Paris and can't seem to squish enough. Every compressor I try (waves
>>>C4,C1, RenComp, sonalksis, timeworks, Ultrafunk, blockfish, etc...) don't
>>>seem to narrow the dynamic range much at all. They seem to drop the volume
>>>as they narrow but with make up gain they sound very mildly compressed
>and
>>>not all that impressive. I definitely understand compressors but anything
>>>more than 3:1 seem to have artifacts.
>>>
>>>Any serious squishing results in the kick distorting too. Here is a drum
>>>track. Can anyone give me some tips please on getting the drumsound below?
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/rpu78
>>>
>>>This is the sound I'm going for:
>>>http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance.
>>
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| Re: Paris challenge [message #69550 is a reply to message #69547] |
Tue, 20 June 2006 12:14 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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Oh yeah, that's me slutting around. Now I got ya.
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>gearsluts...only cuz the q is the same one here about drum
>dom[pression. anyhoo, i run one stereo pair through the amek at one
>setting and then 2 mono sends through a distressor set to nuke with
>the input on 9 attack on 5 and release on 9...squishy.
>
>On 20 Jun 2006 20:55:10 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>I don't know. What's a 'gs'?
>>hehe
>>
>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>is that you...you cute little monkey you on gs?
>>>
>>>On 19 Jun 2006 10:46:59 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm trying to do the New York Drum Compression Trick where you squish
one
>>>>mix of drums and let the raw channels just peek over the tops.
>>>>
>>>>I'm in Paris and can't seem to squish enough. Every compressor I try
(waves
>>>>C4,C1, RenComp, sonalksis, timeworks, Ultrafunk, blockfish, etc...) don't
>>>>seem to narrow the dynamic range much at all. They seem to drop the volume
>>>>as they narrow but with make up gain they sound very mildly compressed
>>and
>>>>not all that impressive. I definitely understand compressors but anything
>>>>more than 3:1 seem to have artifacts.
>>>>
>>>>Any serious squishing results in the kick distorting too. Here is a drum
>>>>track. Can anyone give me some tips please on getting the drumsound below?
>>>>
>>>>http://tinyurl.com/rpu78
>>>>
>>>>This is the sound I'm going for:
>>>>http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>
>
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| Re: Paris challenge [message #69568 is a reply to message #69550] |
Wed, 21 June 2006 01:29 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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Senior Member |
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i must admit when talking to you on the phone i pictured you looking a
bit different.
;o)
On 21 Jun 2006 05:14:06 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>Oh yeah, that's me slutting around. Now I got ya.
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>gearsluts...only cuz the q is the same one here about drum
>>dom[pression. anyhoo, i run one stereo pair through the amek at one
>>setting and then 2 mono sends through a distressor set to nuke with
>>the input on 9 attack on 5 and release on 9...squishy.
>>
>>On 20 Jun 2006 20:55:10 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I don't know. What's a 'gs'?
>>>hehe
>>>
>>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>is that you...you cute little monkey you on gs?
>>>>
>>>>On 19 Jun 2006 10:46:59 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm trying to do the New York Drum Compression Trick where you squish
>one
>>>>>mix of drums and let the raw channels just peek over the tops.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm in Paris and can't seem to squish enough. Every compressor I try
>(waves
>>>>>C4,C1, RenComp, sonalksis, timeworks, Ultrafunk, blockfish, etc...) don't
>>>>>seem to narrow the dynamic range much at all. They seem to drop the volume
>>>>>as they narrow but with make up gain they sound very mildly compressed
>>>and
>>>>>not all that impressive. I definitely understand compressors but anything
>>>>>more than 3:1 seem to have artifacts.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any serious squishing results in the kick distorting too. Here is a drum
>>>>>track. Can anyone give me some tips please on getting the drumsound below?
>>>>>
>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/rpu78
>>>>>
>>>>>This is the sound I'm going for:
>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>
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| Re: Paris challenge [message #69581 is a reply to message #69568] |
Wed, 21 June 2006 12:04 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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That's cuz I was in my speedo :-)
rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>i must admit when talking to you on the phone i pictured you looking a
>bit different.
>
>;o)
>
>On 21 Jun 2006 05:14:06 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Oh yeah, that's me slutting around. Now I got ya.
>>
>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>gearsluts...only cuz the q is the same one here about drum
>>>dom[pression. anyhoo, i run one stereo pair through the amek at one
>>>setting and then 2 mono sends through a distressor set to nuke with
>>>the input on 9 attack on 5 and release on 9...squishy.
>>>
>>>On 20 Jun 2006 20:55:10 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I don't know. What's a 'gs'?
>>>>hehe
>>>>
>>>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>is that you...you cute little monkey you on gs?
>>>>>
>>>>>On 19 Jun 2006 10:46:59 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm trying to do the New York Drum Compression Trick where you squish
>>one
>>>>>>mix of drums and let the raw channels just peek over the tops.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm in Paris and can't seem to squish enough. Every compressor I try
>>(waves
>>>>>>C4,C1, RenComp, sonalksis, timeworks, Ultrafunk, blockfish, etc...)
don't
>>>>>>seem to narrow the dynamic range much at all. They seem to drop the
volume
>>>>>>as they narrow but with make up gain they sound very mildly compressed
>>>>and
>>>>>>not all that impressive. I definitely understand compressors but anything
>>>>>>more than 3:1 seem to have artifacts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any serious squishing results in the kick distorting too. Here is a
drum
>>>>>>track. Can anyone give me some tips please on getting the drumsound
below?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/rpu78
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is the sound I'm going for:
>>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>
>
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