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Logic on a Mac Pro [message #98108] Mon, 21 April 2008 09:58 Go to next message
uptown jimmy is currently offline  uptown jimmy   
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Hello again!

My production partner Swen ahs decided that Paris is no longer good enough
for him, and wants desperately to switch to Logic on a Mac Pro tower. I do
not know why. He has always railed against what he perceives as being the
fundamental inadequacy of Paris, though he's never used any other platform,
and so has no frame of reference.

Anyway, I know a lot of folks here have experience with other platforms,
and I wondered if anyone could give me some vague particulars as to what
is possible on a native system these days.
We regularly rack up track counts of 64 or more, with Paris EQ on almost
every channel. Can a native Logic system do that? Is latency an issue? Would
the system be stable and easy to set up and tweak?

Thanks,
Jimmy
Re: Logic on a Mac Pro [message #98125 is a reply to message #98108] Tue, 22 April 2008 01:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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with the right set up sure. just stay away from leopard. you can get
a new mac loaded with tiger...though you won't be able to use all 8
cpus if you go that route...plus your ram limit will be 4 gigs.

On 22 Apr 2008 02:58:41 +1000, "Uptown Jimmy"
<johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>
>Hello again!
>
>My production partner Swen ahs decided that Paris is no longer good enough
>for him, and wants desperately to switch to Logic on a Mac Pro tower. I do
>not know why. He has always railed against what he perceives as being the
>fundamental inadequacy of Paris, though he's never used any other platform,
>and so has no frame of reference.
>
>Anyway, I know a lot of folks here have experience with other platforms,
>and I wondered if anyone could give me some vague particulars as to what
>is possible on a native system these days.
>We regularly rack up track counts of 64 or more, with Paris EQ on almost
>every channel. Can a native Logic system do that? Is latency an issue? Would
>the system be stable and easy to set up and tweak?
>
>Thanks,
>Jimmy
Re: Logic on a Mac Pro [message #98129 is a reply to message #98125] Tue, 22 April 2008 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tonehouse is currently offline  tonehouse   UNITED STATES
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Can you explain the problems with "Leopard" ?? I am thinking of doing the
same thing...Anybody use Nuendo with a Mac ??
"rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c28r0457q88rgkseco9vsklj4dio1kn7su@4ax.com...
> with the right set up sure. just stay away from leopard. you can get
> a new mac loaded with tiger...though you won't be able to use all 8
> cpus if you go that route...plus your ram limit will be 4 gigs.
>
> On 22 Apr 2008 02:58:41 +1000, "Uptown Jimmy"
> <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Hello again!
> >
> >My production partner Swen ahs decided that Paris is no longer good
enough
> >for him, and wants desperately to switch to Logic on a Mac Pro tower. I
do
> >not know why. He has always railed against what he perceives as being the
> >fundamental inadequacy of Paris, though he's never used any other
platform,
> >and so has no frame of reference.
> >
> >Anyway, I know a lot of folks here have experience with other platforms,
> >and I wondered if anyone could give me some vague particulars as to what
> >is possible on a native system these days.
> >We regularly rack up track counts of 64 or more, with Paris EQ on almost
> >every channel. Can a native Logic system do that? Is latency an issue?
Would
> >the system be stable and easy to set up and tweak?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Jimmy
>
Re: Logic on a Mac Pro [message #98130 is a reply to message #98129] Tue, 22 April 2008 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
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Hey Zan,

You might find some info here:

http://forum.nuendo.com/phpbb2/

I didn't see a Mac specific forum. Kerry Galloway seems to have a good bit
of experience w/ Logic...

Gantt

"tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net> wrote:
>Can you explain the problems with "Leopard" ?? I am thinking of doing the
>same thing...Anybody use Nuendo with a Mac ??
>"rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:c28r0457q88rgkseco9vsklj4dio1kn7su@4ax.com...
>> with the right set up sure. just stay away from leopard. you can get
>> a new mac loaded with tiger...though you won't be able to use all 8
>> cpus if you go that route...plus your ram limit will be 4 gigs.
>>
>> On 22 Apr 2008 02:58:41 +1000, "Uptown Jimmy"
>> <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Hello again!
>> >
>> >My production partner Swen ahs decided that Paris is no longer good
>enough
>> >for him, and wants desperately to switch to Logic on a Mac Pro tower.
I
>do
>> >not know why. He has always railed against what he perceives as being
the
>> >fundamental inadequacy of Paris, though he's never used any other
>platform,
>> >and so has no frame of reference.
>> >
>> >Anyway, I know a lot of folks here have experience with other platforms,
>> >and I wondered if anyone could give me some vague particulars as to what
>> >is possible on a native system these days.
>> >We regularly rack up track counts of 64 or more, with Paris EQ on almost
>> >every channel. Can a native Logic system do that? Is latency an issue?
>Would
>> >the system be stable and easy to set up and tweak?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Jimmy
>>
>
>


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: Logic on a Mac Pro [message #98145 is a reply to message #98129] Wed, 23 April 2008 02:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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it's pretty much a stay away OS on any audio forum for pro use. some
do not experience problems but a majority do. my experience is with
logic and not nuendo and out of the five people running 10.5 and logic
only one has it working without too many problems. the other 4 went
back to tiger. the problems are too numerous to list...once you can
even get logic to boot consistently.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:08:47 -0400, "tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Can you explain the problems with "Leopard" ?? I am thinking of doing the
>same thing...Anybody use Nuendo with a Mac ??
>"rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:c28r0457q88rgkseco9vsklj4dio1kn7su@4ax.com...
>> with the right set up sure. just stay away from leopard. you can get
>> a new mac loaded with tiger...though you won't be able to use all 8
>> cpus if you go that route...plus your ram limit will be 4 gigs.
>>
>> On 22 Apr 2008 02:58:41 +1000, "Uptown Jimmy"
>> <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Hello again!
>> >
>> >My production partner Swen ahs decided that Paris is no longer good
>enough
>> >for him, and wants desperately to switch to Logic on a Mac Pro tower. I
>do
>> >not know why. He has always railed against what he perceives as being the
>> >fundamental inadequacy of Paris, though he's never used any other
>platform,
>> >and so has no frame of reference.
>> >
>> >Anyway, I know a lot of folks here have experience with other platforms,
>> >and I wondered if anyone could give me some vague particulars as to what
>> >is possible on a native system these days.
>> >We regularly rack up track counts of 64 or more, with Paris EQ on almost
>> >every channel. Can a native Logic system do that? Is latency an issue?
>Would
>> >the system be stable and easy to set up and tweak?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Jimmy
>>
>
Re: Logic on a Mac Pro [message #98152 is a reply to message #98145] Wed, 23 April 2008 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
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Hi Rick,
We haven't seen those issues at all with logic so far.
We are installing them on fresh out of the box machines not ones that people have had a chance to screw up. :)

Nuendo has been working great on the leopard side from what I've seen or heard from our customers so far. That is also true for Logic.
I think allot of the people reporting issues with Logic are coming from Tiger to leopard upgrades and not fresh installs.
They also may have 3rd party plug ins, sound cards and other non audio apps already installed on the machine that may not like Logic.

Chris

rick wrote:
> it's pretty much a stay away OS on any audio forum for pro use. some
> do not experience problems but a majority do. my experience is with
> logic and not nuendo and out of the five people running 10.5 and logic
> only one has it working without too many problems. the other 4 went
> back to tiger. the problems are too numerous to list...once you can
> even get logic to boot consistently.
>
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:08:47 -0400, "tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Can you explain the problems with "Leopard" ?? I am thinking of doing the
>> same thing...Anybody use Nuendo with a Mac ??
>> "rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:c28r0457q88rgkseco9vsklj4dio1kn7su@4ax.com...
>>> with the right set up sure. just stay away from leopard. you can get
>>> a new mac loaded with tiger...though you won't be able to use all 8
>>> cpus if you go that route...plus your ram limit will be 4 gigs.
>>>
>>> On 22 Apr 2008 02:58:41 +1000, "Uptown Jimmy"
>>> <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello again!
>>>>
>>>> My production partner Swen ahs decided that Paris is no longer good
>> enough
>>>> for him, and wants desperately to switch to Logic on a Mac Pro tower. I
>> do
>>>> not know why. He has always railed against what he perceives as being the
>>>> fundamental inadequacy of Paris, though he's never used any other
>> platform,
>>>> and so has no frame of reference.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I know a lot of folks here have experience with other platforms,
>>>> and I wondered if anyone could give me some vague particulars as to what
>>>> is possible on a native system these days.
>>>> We regularly rack up track counts of 64 or more, with Paris EQ on almost
>>>> every channel. Can a native Logic system do that? Is latency an issue?
>> Would
>>>> the system be stable and easy to set up and tweak?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jimmy
>

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Logic on a Mac Pro [message #98154 is a reply to message #98152] Wed, 23 April 2008 11:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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I've had some issues installing Safari and OSX on top of existing software.
I totally agree with Chris, a clean install of OSX is the way to go!

Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Rick,
>We haven't seen those issues at all with logic so far.
>We are installing them on fresh out of the box machines not ones that people
have had
>a chance to screw up. :)
>
>Nuendo has been working great on the leopard side from what I've seen or
heard from
>our customers so far. That is also true for Logic.
>I think allot of the people reporting issues with Logic are coming from
Tiger to leopard
>upgrades and not fresh installs.
>They also may have 3rd party plug ins, sound cards and other non audio apps
already
>installed on the machine that may not like Logic.
>
>Chris
>
>rick wrote:
>> it's pretty much a stay away OS on any audio forum for pro use. some
>> do not experience problems but a majority do. my experience is with
>> logic and not nuendo and out of the five people running 10.5 and logic
>> only one has it working without too many problems. the other 4 went
>> back to tiger. the problems are too numerous to list...once you can
>> even get logic to boot consistently.
>>
>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:08:47 -0400, "tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you explain the problems with "Leopard" ?? I am thinking of doing
the
>>> same thing...Anybody use Nuendo with a Mac ??
>>> "rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c28r0457q88rgkseco9vsklj4dio1kn7su@4ax.com...
>>>> with the right set up sure. just stay away from leopard. you can get
>>>> a new mac loaded with tiger...though you won't be able to use all 8
>>>> cpus if you go that route...plus your ram limit will be 4 gigs.
>>>>
>>>> On 22 Apr 2008 02:58:41 +1000, "Uptown Jimmy"
>>>> <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello again!
>>>>>
>>>>> My production partner Swen ahs decided that Paris is no longer good
>>> enough
>>>>> for him, and wants desperately to switch to Logic on a Mac Pro tower.
I
>>> do
>>>>> not know why. He has always railed against what he perceives as being
the
>>>>> fundamental inadequacy of Paris, though he's never used any other
>>> platform,
>>>>> and so has no frame of reference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I know a lot of folks here have experience with other platforms,
>>>>> and I wondered if anyone could give me some vague particulars as to
what
>>>>> is possible on a native system these days.
>>>>> We regularly rack up track counts of 64 or more, with Paris EQ on almost
>>>>> every channel. Can a native Logic system do that? Is latency an issue?
>>> Would
>>>>> the system be stable and easy to set up and tweak?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jimmy
>>
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Logic on a Mac Pro [message #98157 is a reply to message #98152] Wed, 23 April 2008 12:24 Go to previous message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
he just did one on his quad and it's totally doa. the drive with
tiger on it works just fine. sadly his imac took a shit today but
that i think is from using that idrive (or whatever it's called) and
shutting down during the transfer. now booting takes 20 minutes.
personally i think it's trying to finish the upload while booting as
it says it's on line but if you try to boot safari it says it's unable
to connect to the server.
it's a good thing he's a doctor cuz i don't think he could make it any
where else. ;o)

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:45:14 -0400, Chris Ludwig
<chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:

>Hi Rick,
>We haven't seen those issues at all with logic so far.
>We are installing them on fresh out of the box machines not ones that people have had a chance to screw up. :)
>
>Nuendo has been working great on the leopard side from what I've seen or heard from our customers so far. That is also true for Logic.
>I think allot of the people reporting issues with Logic are coming from Tiger to leopard upgrades and not fresh installs.
>They also may have 3rd party plug ins, sound cards and other non audio apps already installed on the machine that may not like Logic.
>
>Chris
>
>rick wrote:
>> it's pretty much a stay away OS on any audio forum for pro use. some
>> do not experience problems but a majority do. my experience is with
>> logic and not nuendo and out of the five people running 10.5 and logic
>> only one has it working without too many problems. the other 4 went
>> back to tiger. the problems are too numerous to list...once you can
>> even get logic to boot consistently.
>>
>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:08:47 -0400, "tonehouse" <zmcleod@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you explain the problems with "Leopard" ?? I am thinking of doing the
>>> same thing...Anybody use Nuendo with a Mac ??
>>> "rick" <parnell68athotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:c28r0457q88rgkseco9vsklj4dio1kn7su@4ax.com...
>>>> with the right set up sure. just stay away from leopard. you can get
>>>> a new mac loaded with tiger...though you won't be able to use all 8
>>>> cpus if you go that route...plus your ram limit will be 4 gigs.
>>>>
>>>> On 22 Apr 2008 02:58:41 +1000, "Uptown Jimmy"
>>>> <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello again!
>>>>>
>>>>> My production partner Swen ahs decided that Paris is no longer good
>>> enough
>>>>> for him, and wants desperately to switch to Logic on a Mac Pro tower. I
>>> do
>>>>> not know why. He has always railed against what he perceives as being the
>>>>> fundamental inadequacy of Paris, though he's never used any other
>>> platform,
>>>>> and so has no frame of reference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, I know a lot of folks here have experience with other platforms,
>>>>> and I wondered if anyone could give me some vague particulars as to what
>>>>> is possible on a native system these days.
>>>>> We regularly rack up track counts of 64 or more, with Paris EQ on almost
>>>>> every channel. Can a native Logic system do that? Is latency an issue?
>>> Would
>>>>> the system be stable and easy to set up and tweak?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jimmy
>>
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