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Rod Lincoln
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> of the SATA controllers is a Silicone Image (this is good)...........so Mr.
> Simplicity is starting to think about being able to put together something
> that can run Cubase SX pretty much full time at 1.5ms latency with VSTi's
> running along in the background so he goes to NewEgg and starts looking at
> these K8NS mobos and at 64 bit x 2 CPU's ranging anywhere from an AMD 64 x 2
> 3800 for $352.96, to an AMD 64 x 2 4600 Manchester for $690.00 to an AMD 64
> x 2 Toledo for $884.00. All of them appear to have 1G L2 cache and the
> cheapest one is 2 GHz which I am assuming means 2GHz x 2 or 4Ghz and the
> most expensive one is 2.4GHz so I'm assuming that this means it's possible
> of achieving around 5GHz if nudged a little.
UADs and TC powerc
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| Re: Got K8NS ultra 939 up and going..Kim how's yours? [message #58682 is a reply to message #58668] |
Sun, 02 October 2005 12:05  |
Rod Lincoln
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y with those versions and my machine wont even boot mostly with those
>>>versions (7-9). Not sure if it's the EDS cards or what.
>>>
>>>On BIOS V6 though she steams along. The only time it's hung at all is
>
> when
>
>>>I was fiddling with drive setups in the computer management area of
>
> control
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>>>panel (partition management) and had an explorer window open with one of
>>>the drives I was fiddling with, which I can understand it not being happy
>>>about.
>>>
>>>I've had a world of hurt getting to where I am and it's not over yet, but
>>>I think the board itself is good. I think once I get it working nicely
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> I'll
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>>>be on a good thing. I'm very interested on how you go with later
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> firmwares
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>>>(7+) and EDS cards if you try it.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am building a computer for a friend who's going to be using cubase.
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> I'm
>
>>>>using a Gigabyte K8ns Ultra 939 on Chris Ludwig's recommendation. I've
>>
>>got
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>>>>everything going on the basic build and done several stress tests.
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> Everything
>
>>>>looks good and there were no problems except a bad removable rack tray
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>>that
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>>>>I spent several hours chasing down :-( Havn't installed cubase yet. I'm
>>>
>>>going
>>>
>>>>to try Paris and see how that goes. I've already ghosted so it's play
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> time
>
>>>>:-)
>>>>I'll post on the results. Kim, how's your experience going?
>>>>One thing I noticed on some benchmark tests (HD tack) is the MSI
>
> neo-platinium
>
>>>>looks to be a bit faster on the benchmarks, given the same memory, cpu,
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>>drives.
>>>>If I remember right. Chris L. also recommended that mobo.
>>>>I'll post after I try the Paris thing.
>>>>Rod
>>>>
>>>
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>
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Chris Ludwig
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| Re: Got K8NS ultra 939 up and going..Kim how's yours? [message #58683 is a reply to message #58666] |
Sun, 02 October 2005 12:11 |
Rod Lincoln
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.com" target="_blank">chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Thanks, Guys,
I had a backup copy and got it working before my session on Friday and Saturday.
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>Hey Aaron,
> I tried to replace the cfg file and am still getting same error on bootup.
>I have a session for this weekend if I could call you while at the studio
>computer that would be good if you have time.
>Thanks, DavidOK, I got Paris going on the K8NS. I did a re-install and all seem good. Just
one eds card in so far.
Rod
"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
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>Deej, the PCI IRQ's are totally steerable, as long as you don't go above
Bios
>version 6. Kind of weird.
>I couldn't find any documentation that mentioned compabiliyt with dual core
>CPU's, but I guess Kim did (in later versions...see his post below)
>So far, I havn't been able to get Paris to work with it though.
>No errors...it just won't do ANYTHING when I try to open paris.
>I only tried late last night though, so it could have been a bad on my part.
>I'll try again, and post the relults.
>rod
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>Mr. Sortyhorse,
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>>How are the IRQ's hard wired to the PCI slots in the bios? Are any PCI
slots
>>always sharing with the AGP?
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>>Does the bios of this mobo support dual core processors?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Mr. Simplicity
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>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:433f0b50$1@linux...
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| Re: Got K8NS ultra 939 up and going..Kim how's yours? [message #58684 is a reply to message #58682] |
Sun, 02 October 2005 12:26 |
Deej [1]
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t;>> I am building a computer for a friend who's going to be using cubase.
>I'm
>>> using a Gigabyte K8ns Ultra 939 on Chris Ludwig's recommendation. I've
>got
>>> everything going on the basic build and done several stress tests.
>>Everything
>>> looks good and there were no problems except a bad removable rack tray
>>that
>>> I spent several hours chasing down :-( Havn't installed cubase yet. I'm
>>going
>>> to try Paris and see how that goes. I've already ghosted so it's play
>time
>>> :-)
>>> I'll post on the results. Kim, how's your experience going?
>>> One thing I noticed on some benchmark tests (HD tack) is the MSI
>>neo-platinium
>>> looks to be a bit faster on the benchmarks, given the same memory, cpu,
>>and
>>> drives.
>>> If I remember right. Chris L. also recommended that mobo.
>>> I'll post after I try the Paris thing.
>>> Rod
>>>
>>
>>
>Yes. Well worth the money if it works well. I don't have partition magic
so that would be handy too, and it says it can make more than 3 primary partitions
which would also be handy.
Cheers,
Kim.
"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote:
>...It seems to do the same things as Partition Magic and Ghost too...
>
>Erling
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> skrev i melding news:433facae$1@linux...
>>
>> "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote:
>>>Have you looked here? It isn't free but...
>>
>> That's cheap enough if it works, and there's a trial version, so that's
>> the
>> next thing on my list to try. Thanks heaps.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>WHY?!!
>:)
Hehe, well... ;o)
1 Boot just for Paris... so it's clean and always works.
1 Boot for general audio, with Paris and every other audio application I
use.
1 Boot for video production use. This will also have some audio apps, as
well as video production apps.
1 Boot for general office tasks... word processing, photoshop etc.
1 Boot called "KAOS" for general mucking around. This is the anything goes
install where you load things to see if they work etc.
1 Boot for experimental OS's... where I can load Linux if I want, or new
versions of Windows / Service packs... whatever.
You see this computer will do pretty much everything for me, and we all know
how a system runs if you load a million things on a single install of Windows.
OK, I could probably make do with maybe only about 4, or 3 even in a pinch,
but I certainly wouldn't want to be routinely running Paris off an OS with
video stuff, M$ office, Cubase, Reason, etc etc.
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| Re: Got K8NS ultra 939 up and going..Kim how's yours? [message #58685 is a reply to message #58684] |
Sun, 02 October 2005 12:43 |
Chris Ludwig
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I like to keep things clean...
....I am astounted how difficult it seems to be to get such a system running
though.
Cheers,
Kim.Yeah, I was thinking of the RNP as sort of a stop gap set for say OH's in
addition to a GR NV1 if they were really good. I am thinking that a v72 racked
is not much more than the Tab- funken, so I think I'll wait on that. Of course
a 1073 is a shite load more than the GR. So I'll go with that for now I think.
Of course I have just become gready and I am now leaning towards sabing for
a pre that starts with an "H"..but I wont mention.
"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>They're good, not great. You can clearly hear the difference between the
RNP
>and a higher-end unit like the Great River.
>
>They are several notches better than Mackie, though, and they are an amazing
>value. We don't track many instruments at a time around here, but if we
did
>the RNP would get a lot more use, whereas now we just use the Great River
on
>everything, with uniformly excellent results.
>
>YOMV.
>
>I've got my eye on one of those TAB units as a companion to my 1NV. I've
>always wanted some really creamy preamp action...
>
>Jimmy
>
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>"Cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:433ec75d$1@linux...
>>
>> Can those of you who have been using the RNP's for a while give me some
>opinions?
>> I am in the process of deciding on some new Pre amps.
>> THinking of one Funkenwerks or GR 1NV and I may get a couple RNP's while
>> I am at it. I am wondering how they do for overheads.
>>
>> Tanx
>
>I'm contemplating this mobo for building a native DAW(Cubase SX/2 x HDSP
9652's/Multiface & 4 x UAD-1's).
Paris works perfectly for me on my XP 2800/ASUS A7V8X. This rig is beacoup
stable with plenty of horsepower for Paris. I doubt I'll ever build another
Paris DAW.
Deej
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:434037eb$1@linux...
> HI DJ,
>
> NO F7 and higher only.
> I don't think Paris will work right anyways because of the dual
> processor functions.
>
> Chris
>
>
> DJ wrote:
> > But does BIOs version 6 support dual core CPU's?
> >
> >
> > "Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:43402f6c$1@linux...
> >
> >>Kim,
> >>Same problem with Bios after 6. It looks like they nixed the IRQ control
> >>after that. I went back to version 6 myself.
> >>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>I had some trouble with mine with one pair of SATA ports not working
and
> >>>had to send it back, which took two attempts, and the turnaround per
> >
> > attempt
> >
> >>>was ten days, so I've only just got a new one last week and gotten back
> >>
> >>on
> >>
> >>>it.
> >>>
> >>>That said, it seems a very nice board. One thing I have noticed is that
> >>
> >>BIOS
> >>
> >>>versions after version 6 don't have nearly as much IRQ control. They
seem
> >>>to have irradicated the whole IRQ menu... plus something in my setup
> >
> > isn't
> >
> >>>happy with those versions and my machine wont even boot mostly with
those
> >>>versions (7-9). Not sure if it's the EDS cards or what.
> >>>
> >>>On BIOS V6 though she steams along. The only time it's hung at a
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| Re: Got K8NS ultra 939 up and going..Kim how's yours? [message #58691 is a reply to message #58685] |
Sun, 02 October 2005 19:34 |
Deej [1]
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No errors...it just won't do ANYTHING when I try to open paris.
>I only tried late last night though, so it could have been a bad on my part.
>I'll try again, and post the relults.
>rod
>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>Mr. Sortyhorse,
>>
>>How are the IRQ's hard wired to the PCI slots in the bios? Are any PCI
slots
>>always sharing with the AGP?
>>
>>Does the bios of this mobo support dual core processors?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Mr. Simplicity
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:433f0b50$1@linux...
>>>
>>> I am building a computer for a friend who's going to be using cubase.
>I'm
>>> using a Gigabyte K8ns Ultra 939 on Chris Ludwig's recommendation. I've
>got
>>> everything going on the basic build and done several stress tests.
>>Everything
>>> looks good and there were no problems except a bad removable rack tray
>>that
>>> I spent several hours chasing down :-( Havn't installed cubase yet. I'm
>>going
>>> to try Paris and see how that goes. I've already ghosted so it's play
>time
>>> :-)
>>> I'll post on the results. Kim, how's your experience going?
>>> One thing I noticed on some benchmark tests (HD tack) is the MSI
>>neo-platinium
>>> looks to be a bit faster on the benchmarks, given the same memory, cpu,
>>and
>>> drives.
>>> If I remember right. Chris L. also recommended that mobo.
>>> I'll post after I try the Paris thing.
>>> Rod
>>>
>>
>>
>If you are planning to come to the Paris dinner on Friday, please let
me know so I can make a reservation. Here are some suggested
restaurants. I am trying to keep it near Penn Station since some of us
have to catch a train.
Latin/Cuban:
http://www.menupages.com/restaurantdetails.asp?areaid=0& restaurantid=4103&neighborhoodid=8&cuisineid=19
http://www.menupages.com/restaurantdetails.asp?areaid=0& restaurantid=4492&neighborhoodid=8&cuisineid=64
Seafood:
http://www.menupages.com/restaurantdetails.asp?areaid=0& restaurantid=5260&neighborhoodid=8&cuisineid=55
As always, open to suggestions too!
- Paul Artola
Ellicott City, Marylandhow about 2 per drive???
On 2 Oct 2005 19:49:17 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>EK Sound <spamnot.info@eksoundNO.com> wrote:
>>But then you have to get off the chair.... oh no... exercise!!! ;-)
>
>It's not the getting off the chair that bothers me, it's the purchase of
>6 individual hard drives for the six boots. ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim."cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>
>Yeah, I was thinking of the RNP as sort of a stop gap set for say OH's in
>addition to a GR NV1 if they were really good. I am thinking that a v72
racked
>is not much more than the Tab- funken, so I think I'll wait on that. Of
course
>a 1073 is a shite load more than the GR. So I'll go with that for now I
think.
>Of course I have just become gready and I am now leaning towards sabing
for
>a pre that starts with an "H"..but I wont mention.
Starts with an "H"? Are you talking about John Hardy?
NeilNah, this one I really gotta save some penny's for.
I was thinking of the Tony Arnold Helios stuff.
Neil are you still a big 4033 fan?
"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
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>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>Yeah, I was thinking of the RNP as sort of a stop gap set for say OH's
in
>>addition to a GR NV1 if they were really good. I am thinking that a v72
>racked
>>is not much more than the Tab- funken, so I think I'll wait on that. Of
>course
>>a 1073 is a shite load more than the GR. So I'll go with that for now I
>think.
>>Of course I have just become gready and I am now leaning towards sabing
>for
>>a pre that starts with an "H"..but I wont mention.
>
>Starts with an "H"? Are you talking about John Hardy?
>
>NeilChris,
Thanks for all your
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| Re: Got K8NS ultra 939 up and going..Kim how's yours? [message #58693 is a reply to message #58683] |
Sun, 02 October 2005 20:22 |
Rod Lincoln
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e CPU board are having performance
> issues with PCI. They will hopefully be changing this with some chipset
> changes soon.
>
> If your money is tight then the AMD64 X2 single processor will still be
> the best choice for performance.
>
> Best price/performance:
>
> AMD Athlon64-
> 3500+
> 4000+
> X2-
> 3800+
> 4400+
>
> Opteron-
>
> 242 (1.6)
> 248 (2.2)
>
> OPteron Dual-Core-
>
> 265 (1.8)
> 275 (2.2)
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> >
> > So what's the diff between an unnamed 3800, a Manchester and a Toledo.
Does
> > this have something to do with the chip architecture. Which would be
> > preferable if the operating frequency was equal?
>
> http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/
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> >
> > Mr. Simplicity is getting antsy for more horses for the Cubase machine.
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> >
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762I am in a middle of a mix and when I try to add a master compressor I get
the maxed out thing.
Is it the card a that shares effect resources with master insert ?
Can I swap cards without loosing anything ??? or any other trick ?
Regards,
DimitriosPaul, is there an alternative date for the Paris dinner. I'd love to make
it, but will be on the road...returning to NJ the 8th?
I was really looking forward to making it this year.
TyroneNappy, I hope this note finds you well. All the best and hang in there!!!
TyroneYes,
Only card A has a master insert. The only remedy that I can think of for
this is to use an outboard compressor/Wormhole.
Might be a good time to put it to the test. ;o)
Good luck,
Deej
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:43414ff7@linux...
> I am in a middle of a mix and when I try to add a master compressor I get
> the maxed out thing.
> Is it the card a that shares effect resources with master insert ?
> Can I swap cards without loosing anything ??? or any other trick ?
> Regards,
> Dimitrios
>
>Yeah, swap out the submix with a card that is using less EDS plugins. If
you're using too many on all of the subs, then you'd maybe have to create a
virtual mix of one of the subs, and let your A card reside on an empty one.
good luck,
-Carl
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