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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System [message #76160 is a reply to message #76159] |
Sun, 19 November 2006 08:03   |
LaMont
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Hey Dedric,
I acually planned to use the Dreamm(contellation)XTII set up as my primary
mixer/recorder/editor.
I did not plan on using other DAWs as my primary, only for the occassional
use like Pro Tools /Nuendo. But, I was told by fairlight that they will have
a HUI layer very soon, and hey are working with steinberg about the posibilliies
of the use of CC1.
Also, they have the sx-48 i/o unit which goes up to 192 sample rate and provides
48 in 48 outs .And multiple units can be stacked .. The CC1 already has a
plethora of Scope II dsp plugins to offer, plus you can use VST plugins..
That's more than enough..
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Lamont,
>
>It is my understanding from Fairlight that the CC-1 is not yet integrated
>with any other DAW software or plugins. It is currently only sold with
the
>SX20 interface and Satellite AV controller with no plans to separate them.
>You would have to run their editor to use any of the plugins and stream
>other apps into it as audio streams - as you would with rewiring Reason
into
>Nuendo. While that is great for post houses that only need a few features
>from the native DAW, Reason, or other plugins, to me it has yet to
>materialize into a fully integrated solution for music production (e.g.
>Nuendo or other DAWs and plugins being developed to run all or part of the
>audio streaming through the CC-1, at least some key VST plugins ported to
>run locally on the CC-1 dsp, *and* the CC-1 being sold standalone).
>
>This is one I've been watching for a while and that's what I've been told
by
>a Fairlight rep. That may be exactly what you need, but for me it needs
buy
>from 3rd party companies to be a viable addition to my setup.
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>On 11/18/06 11:24 PM, in article 455fea86$1@linux, "LaMont"
><jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>
>> That's good news DJ..
>> For me, I'm going for both eye-candy, & killer tactile interface..With
>> on-aboard
>> recording. Like you, I've been on this journey for 3 years now searching
>> for a Killer Paris replacement.
>>
>> I know this is an investement, but I've made up my mide to drop over 30k
>> for a rig 2 years ago.
>>
>> I see now, that even with great multi-core processors, theres nothing
like
>> a dedeicaed DSP based DAW. Sorry Native guys and gals, but it's true..
Yes,
>> you can ge the job done, but there's always workarounds and the likes..
>>
>> When I found ou that Fairlight was in fact using Scope based plugins for
>> their core plugins, that sealed the deal. In fact, the old Fairlight DSP
>> system (DREAM 1) was based on the scope pro 15 dsp's..
>> But, now with their new Crystal core technology, they can now sel a rig
that's
>> half the cost and 20 times the power..
>>
>> To say that I'm jacked is an understatement. Along with the DreamII rig,
>> I'll have a Dual Opteron PC + Magma for rewired apps(acid), Giga, Neundo..All
>> jacked into the Dream II Core..
>>
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <nowayjose@dude.net> wrote:
>>> La Mont,
>>>
>>> I'm playing back a 40 track project interfacing the Pulsar ADAT with
Paris
>>> ADAT. It's very stable and sounds friggin incredible.
>>>
>>> I'm still working out a few routing FU's that I seem to have created.
Also,
>>> I'm not entirely happy with the Pulsar midi routing to/from my digipatch
>>> digital patchbay. It's got me bamboozled right now but other than that,
>> I
>>> think I'm going to hold off on the Fairlight for a while. this thing
sounds
>>> great and so far is extremely stable.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:455dd1e3$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Well, I've been on my search for another DSP professional solution.
My
>>> search
>>>> for the ultimate Paris replacement has sent looking at :
>>>>
>>>> 1) Soundscape system
>>>> 2) Pro Tools HD-3 With Dcommand Controller
>>>> 3) Nuendo3-With Euphonix MC5
>>>> 4) Fairlight Crysltal Core Setup/ Constellation XT
>>>> 5) Scope II Platform..
>>>>
>>>> Well, it's looking like the Fairlight solution is winnning and is the
>>> future
>>>> of DSP DAW.
>>>>
>>>> Take a look at the videos and let me know what you guys think..
>>>>
>>>> http://img3.harmony-central.com/Video/aes121/Fairlight_CC-1. mp4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System [message #76163 is a reply to message #76162] |
Sun, 19 November 2006 11:08 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
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Hey..they'll let anyone get into debt..This is America.. :)
Seriously. James McC was and is right. Most o fthese comapnies are not into
selling nor providing a "total" professional sudio solution. They are into
nickle and diming all of us o spending way over 30-40 oreven 50k when it's
all said and done.
I saw this happening with the PC upgrade phenomina. Look how much it cost
to beuild(last year) a dual/dual core Opteron DAW$$Cha ching..$$$ Then, converters,
plugins, clocks..and on and on..
A person can end up spending a lot of money nickle and diming their way to
their dream setup. It just seemed "more expensive to shell out the big buck
at the fron end, versus, getting "cherry" Picked every 6 months. I know that
I have spent over 6k in DAW upgrades just this year alone!!! ENOUGH!!
Like my wife says, Either your going for the 35k Protool/Control 24 rig(HD3
Acell) or the Euphonics /Neundo Setup or the Fairlight setup.. But, she think
it's stupid(for me) to keep throwing money on faster PCs and not having a
great control surface to boot..
I make no excuse in saying that I need Eye Candy in my studio. I have found
that along with proving a great mix, people pay for Eye Candy..More to the
point, they pay for faders!!! :) Faders and big (19inch and above) video
monitors..
When you're asking for client to part with cash for their project, you have
to provide someting different than what they already have. Most everyone
has some kind of DAW..So, to say I'm using Paris, Pro Tools LE, Cubase or
even Logic and Nuendo, does not easily impress.. BUT, when they see over
32 faders..lights, big monitors and Great sound...Money comes.. :)
"Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>I know this is an investement, but I've made up my mide to drop over 30k
>>for a rig 2 years ago.
>
>OK, Lamont... then that means no more accusations from you in
>any political threads that I'm "rich" and you're "lower middle-
>class", 'cause I sure as hell can't afford to drop $30k into MY
>recording rig!
>
>:D
>
>Neil
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System [message #76165 is a reply to message #76163] |
Sun, 19 November 2006 10:34 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
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Where are you getting a Constellation for $35k? I thought they started at
$110k?
Dedric
On 11/19/06 12:08 PM, in article 45609d87$1@linux, "LaMont"
<jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
> Hey..they'll let anyone get into debt..This is America.. :)
>
> Seriously. James McC was and is right. Most o fthese comapnies are not into
> selling nor providing a "total" professional sudio solution. They are into
> nickle and diming all of us o spending way over 30-40 oreven 50k when it's
> all said and done.
>
> I saw this happening with the PC upgrade phenomina. Look how much it cost
> to beuild(last year) a dual/dual core Opteron DAW$$Cha ching..$$$ Then,
> converters,
> plugins, clocks..and on and on..
> A person can end up spending a lot of money nickle and diming their way to
> their dream setup. It just seemed "more expensive to shell out the big buck
> at the fron end, versus, getting "cherry" Picked every 6 months. I know that
> I have spent over 6k in DAW upgrades just this year alone!!! ENOUGH!!
>
> Like my wife says, Either your going for the 35k Protool/Control 24 rig(HD3
> Acell) or the Euphonics /Neundo Setup or the Fairlight setup.. But, she think
> it's stupid(for me) to keep throwing money on faster PCs and not having a
> great control surface to boot..
>
> I make no excuse in saying that I need Eye Candy in my studio. I have found
> that along with proving a great mix, people pay for Eye Candy..More to the
> point, they pay for faders!!! :) Faders and big (19inch and above) video
> monitors..
> When you're asking for client to part with cash for their project, you have
> to provide someting different than what they already have. Most everyone
> has some kind of DAW..So, to say I'm using Paris, Pro Tools LE, Cubase or
> even Logic and Nuendo, does not easily impress.. BUT, when they see over
> 32 faders..lights, big monitors and Great sound...Money comes.. :)
>
>
>
> "Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>
>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I know this is an investement, but I've made up my mide to drop over 30k
>>> for a rig 2 years ago.
>>
>> OK, Lamont... then that means no more accusations from you in
>> any political threads that I'm "rich" and you're "lower middle-
>> class", 'cause I sure as hell can't afford to drop $30k into MY
>> recording rig!
>>
>> :D
>>
>> Neil
>
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System [message #76167 is a reply to message #76165] |
Sun, 19 November 2006 11:32 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005
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My Starting price
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Where are you getting a Constellation for $35k? I thought they started
at
>$110k?
>
>Dedric
>
>On 11/19/06 12:08 PM, in article 45609d87$1@linux, "LaMont"
><jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey..they'll let anyone get into debt..This is America.. :)
>>
>> Seriously. James McC was and is right. Most o fthese comapnies are not
into
>> selling nor providing a "total" professional sudio solution. They are
into
>> nickle and diming all of us o spending way over 30-40 oreven 50k when
it's
>> all said and done.
>>
>> I saw this happening with the PC upgrade phenomina. Look how much it cost
>> to beuild(last year) a dual/dual core Opteron DAW$$Cha ching..$$$ Then,
>> converters,
>> plugins, clocks..and on and on..
>> A person can end up spending a lot of money nickle and diming their way
to
>> their dream setup. It just seemed "more expensive to shell out the big
buck
>> at the fron end, versus, getting "cherry" Picked every 6 months. I know
that
>> I have spent over 6k in DAW upgrades just this year alone!!! ENOUGH!!
>>
>> Like my wife says, Either your going for the 35k Protool/Control 24 rig(HD3
>> Acell) or the Euphonics /Neundo Setup or the Fairlight setup.. But, she
think
>> it's stupid(for me) to keep throwing money on faster PCs and not having
a
>> great control surface to boot..
>>
>> I make no excuse in saying that I need Eye Candy in my studio. I have
found
>> that along with proving a great mix, people pay for Eye Candy..More to
the
>> point, they pay for faders!!! :) Faders and big (19inch and above) video
>> monitors..
>> When you're asking for client to part with cash for their project, you
have
>> to provide someting different than what they already have. Most everyone
>> has some kind of DAW..So, to say I'm using Paris, Pro Tools LE, Cubase
or
>> even Logic and Nuendo, does not easily impress.. BUT, when they see over
>> 32 faders..lights, big monitors and Great sound...Money comes.. :)
>>
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I know this is an investement, but I've made up my mide to drop over
30k
>>>> for a rig 2 years ago.
>>>
>>> OK, Lamont... then that means no more accusations from you in
>>> any political threads that I'm "rich" and you're "lower middle-
>>> class", 'cause I sure as hell can't afford to drop $30k into MY
>>> recording rig!
>>>
>>> :D
>>>
>>> Neil
>>
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| Re: Faightlight Core II: Dream System [message #76169 is a reply to message #76165] |
Sun, 19 November 2006 13:01 |
LaMont
Messages: 828
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That's list for a 5 BAY SETUP.I',m looking at a 3 bay setup..I stated 35 as
a starting point..But since the CC1 card things have come down a lot.
Dedric Terry <dterry@keyofd.net> wrote:
>Where are you getting a Constellation for $35k? I thought they started
at
>$110k?
>
>Dedric
>
>On 11/19/06 12:08 PM, in article 45609d87$1@linux, "LaMont"
><jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey..they'll let anyone get into debt..This is America.. :)
>>
>> Seriously. James McC was and is right. Most o fthese comapnies are not
into
>> selling nor providing a "total" professional sudio solution. They are
into
>> nickle and diming all of us o spending way over 30-40 oreven 50k when
it's
>> all said and done.
>>
>> I saw this happening with the PC upgrade phenomina. Look how much it cost
>> to beuild(last year) a dual/dual core Opteron DAW$$Cha ching..$$$ Then,
>> converters,
>> plugins, clocks..and on and on..
>> A person can end up spending a lot of money nickle and diming their way
to
>> their dream setup. It just seemed "more expensive to shell out the big
buck
>> at the fron end, versus, getting "cherry" Picked every 6 months. I know
that
>> I have spent over 6k in DAW upgrades just this year alone!!! ENOUGH!!
>>
>> Like my wife says, Either your going for the 35k Protool/Control 24 rig(HD3
>> Acell) or the Euphonics /Neundo Setup or the Fairlight setup.. But, she
think
>> it's stupid(for me) to keep throwing money on faster PCs and not having
a
>> great control surface to boot..
>>
>> I make no excuse in saying that I need Eye Candy in my studio. I have
found
>> that along with proving a great mix, people pay for Eye Candy..More to
the
>> point, they pay for faders!!! :) Faders and big (19inch and above) video
>> monitors..
>> When you're asking for client to part with cash for their project, you
have
>> to provide someting different than what they already have. Most everyone
>> has some kind of DAW..So, to say I'm using Paris, Pro Tools LE, Cubase
or
>> even Logic and Nuendo, does not easily impress.. BUT, when they see over
>> 32 faders..lights, big monitors and Great sound...Money comes.. :)
>>
>>
>>
>> "Neil" <IOUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> "LaMont" <jjdpro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I know this is an investement, but I've made up my mide to drop over
30k
>>>> for a rig 2 years ago.
>>>
>>> OK, Lamont... then that means no more accusations from you in
>>> any political threads that I'm "rich" and you're "lower middle-
>>> class", 'cause I sure as hell can't afford to drop $30k into MY
>>> recording rig!
>>>
>>> :D
>>>
>>> Neil
>>
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