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Ryzen and PARIS [message #110121]

Tue, 12 July 2022 08:37

mikeaudet

Messages: 477
Registered: February 2009
Location: Canada

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I bought a Ryzen based system with a PCI card to use with PARIS, and it does not work. There's something wrong with the PCIe/PCI implementation. I spent days debugging it, but it's not a driver problem as far as I can tell. The behaviour is the same using the Virtua Via chassis, a Magma PCI-PCI chassis, and plugging an EDS card directly onto the board. There is no blue screen. The system just restarts when the driver writes to the memory on the card. It doesn't restart on the first write, but after several. I have a ticket in with ASUS, but I'm not holding my breath.

This is the motherboard that does not work:

https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards-Components/Motherboa rds/CSM/Pro-B550M-C-CSM/

I found lots of other posts online that documented people having trouble using the PCIe slots on Ryzen systems, including UAD2 cards. It looks to me like the PCIe implementation is just not quite right.

Has anyone else got a Ryzen based system working with PARIS?

I've ordered one of these:

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/CS M/Pro-B460M-C-CSM/

I should know in a week if it's going to work. I expect that it will.

After I order the B460 board, I found this:

https://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/B660M-HDVPD5/index.asp

This looks even better, but I didn't see it in time.

All the best,

Mike

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Re: Ryzen and PARIS [message #110122 is a reply to message #110121]

Tue, 19 July 2022 04:41

Will The Weirdo

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Registered: December 2009
Location: On The Lake

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Thanks for the info Mike.

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Re: Ryzen and PARIS [message #110123 is a reply to message #110122]

Sat, 23 July 2022 13:29

mikeaudet

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Registered: February 2009
Location: Canada

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I got the Intel Core i5 10400 CPU installed on the B460 motherboard, and PARIS is working great under Windows 11. I haven't done a big stress test yet, but everything looks good.

All the best,
Mike

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Re: Ryzen and PARIS [message #110124 is a reply to message #110121]

Sat, 23 July 2022 14:00

Will The Weirdo

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Registered: December 2009
Location: On The Lake

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Mike, are you using a particular version of Windows 11?

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Re: Ryzen and PARIS [message #110125 is a reply to message #110124]

Sat, 23 July 2022 14:47

mikeaudet

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Registered: February 2009
Location: Canada

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I'm using Windows 11 Education edition, but I wouldn't expect the version to matter.

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Re: Ryzen and PARIS [message #110126 is a reply to message #110125]

Sat, 23 July 2022 14:55

mikeaudet

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Registered: February 2009
Location: Canada

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I just found this board, if anyone is looking. It has two PCI slots.

https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Motherboards-Components/Motherboa rds/PRIME/PRIME-B460-PLUS/

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Re: Ryzen and PARIS [message #110166 is a reply to message #110121]

Mon, 06 February 2023 01:14

Kim W.

Messages: 189
Registered: January 2010
Location: Australia

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What do you think of this one, Mike?
I b ought it NOS from China, and a Core I5 8500 processor for my new build.
https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/pr ime/prime-h310-plus-r2-0/
Do you have any thoughts? I haven't built it yet. Have to buy a new case.
Happy new year, Mike. Thanks for all your hard work over the years.
Kim

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Re: Ryzen and PARIS [message #110167 is a reply to message #110166]

Mon, 06 February 2023 08:06

steeleyz

Messages: 12
Registered: March 2011
Location: Nashville, TN U.S. of A.

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Thanks everyone!
I am still struggling with costs vs what will work solidly
I am quite frustrated about which direction to take before forking out.
I still lean towards the ADEK company, which will make a custom 4 PCI slot MB.
but it's pricey, like a $1700 complete system with great hardware specs, but no chassis
which I already have a rack-mount one. I also have an SBS PCI expansion rack, but like this post is centered on,
I'm leary of whether to use that.

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Re: Ryzen and PARIS [message #110169 is a reply to message #110166]

Mon, 06 February 2023 09:37

mikeaudet

Messages: 477
Registered: February 2009
Location: Canada

Senior Member

That looks like a great find, Kim. Three PCI slots on a modern motherboard is unheard of.

This is the one that I wish I had bought. I basically have the mini ATX version of it, and I am super happy with it.

https://www.asus.com/ca-en/motherboards-components/motherboa rds/prime/prime-b460-plus/

Keep me posted on your build!

All the best,
Mike

Edit: I see I posted that already. Oops!

I'm still using my Virtua Via chassis, and it's fantastic.

[Updated on: Mon, 06 February 2023 09:38]

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Re: Ryzen and PARIS [message #110170 is a reply to message #110121]

Tue, 07 February 2023 02:56

Kim W.

Messages: 189
Registered: January 2010
Location: Australia

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For anyone interested, here is the link.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/193870300158
It only has two memory slots, so maxes out at 32GB of DDR4 RAM. Also, requires a 7th or 8th generation processor. It won't do 9th or beyond. Still... a good option for three EDS cards without an external chassis.
I will report on my build when I get to it.
Cheers,
Kim.

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Re: Ryzen and PARIS [message #110171 is a reply to message #110170]

Tue, 07 February 2023 05:11

mikeaudet

Messages: 477
Registered: February 2009
Location: Canada

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Thanks, Kim! I'm sure it will be a monster PARIS setup. Smile

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