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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66564 is a reply to message #66560] |
Tue, 11 April 2006 20:01   |
Tom Bruhl
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Steve,
Make sure your second Mec is attached to EDS card C!!!
Your problems will be solved. You can still assign it to=20
Submix B in the Group Master if needed.
Let me guess? You can enable the tracks to record but nothing
ever prints from the second Mec right? =20
Good luck,
Tom
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message =
news:443c647e$1@linux...
Hi Steve,
I have done this many times. We have a 5 card, 2 MEC system=20
operating. Each MEC has two 8it cards for 16 inputs per=20
MEC. I patch all 16 card inputs to mixer channels on both=20
MEC's, arm and press record... it's that easy. Do you have=20
any specific questions about this? if so, fire away.
David.
Steve Cox wrote:
> Loaded...16 all litepipe.
> Steve
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>=20
>>How many inputs do you have on each EDS card?
>>AA
>>
>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message =
news:443c492a$1@linux...
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>>>Though I have 3 EDS cards for each computer, 2 control 16s for each =
also
>=20
>=20
>>>MECs,
>>>through the years I have not figured out yet how to record 32 =
Tracks=20
>>>simultaneously.
>>>Can this be done?
>>>Steve
>>
>>
>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html=20
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>=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Steve,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Make sure your second Mec is attached =
to EDS card=20
C!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your problems will be solved. You =
can still=20
assign it to </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Submix B in the Group Master if=20
needed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let me guess? You can enable the =
tracks to=20
record but nothing</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ever prints from the second Mec =
right? =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Dave(EK Sound)" <<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca">audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote in message <A=20
href=3D"news:443c647e$1@linux">news:443c647e$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Hi=20
Steve,<BR><BR>I have done this many times. We have a 5 card, 2 =
MEC=20
system <BR>operating. Each MEC has two 8it cards for 16 inputs =
per=20
<BR>MEC. I patch all 16 card inputs to mixer channels on both =
<BR>MEC's,=20
arm and press record... it's that easy. Do you have <BR>any =
specific=20
questions about this? if so, fire away.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Steve Cox =
wrote:<BR>> Loaded...16 all litepipe.<BR>> Steve<BR>> "Aaron =
Allen"=20
<<A =
href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
wrote:<BR>> <BR>>>How many inputs do you have on each EDS=20
card?<BR>>>AA<BR>>><BR>>> "Steve Cox" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:stevec1@charter.net">stevec1@charter.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A=20
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R>>>>Though=20
I have 3 EDS cards for each computer, 2 control 16s for each =
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not=20
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<BR>>>>simultaneously.<BR>>>>Can this be=20
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Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66566 is a reply to message #66560] |
Tue, 11 April 2006 20:24 |
Stevehwan
Messages: 207
Registered: January 2006
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Ahhh, So the trick is a second MEC to the second card? If I have 3 cards,
how does this show up in the busses? I take it if a card has an MEC on it
It will record?
So here's a given scenario: 3 cards, 3 Busses, 2 MECs. Buss-1 says "A" Buss-2
says "B" Buss-3 Says "C" Now BUSS 1 has an MEC and Buss 2 has the second
MEC. You're saying that Buss 1 and 2 will record simultaneously but Bus 3
can only be playback (because it does have a card), therefore doesn't need
to be updated?
Thanks... Steve
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>Hi Steve,
>
>I have done this many times. We have a 5 card, 2 MEC system
>operating. Each MEC has two 8it cards for 16 inputs per
>MEC. I patch all 16 card inputs to mixer channels on both
>MEC's, arm and press record... it's that easy. Do you have
>any specific questions about this? if so, fire away.
>
>David.
>
>Steve Cox wrote:
>> Loaded...16 all litepipe.
>> Steve
>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>
>>>How many inputs do you have on each EDS card?
>>>AA
>>>
>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:443c492a$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>Though I have 3 EDS cards for each computer, 2 control 16s for each also
>>
>>
>>>>MECs,
>>>>through the years I have not figured out yet how to record 32 Tracks
>>>>simultaneously.
>>>>Can this be done?
>>>>Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66567 is a reply to message #66564] |
Tue, 11 April 2006 20:26 |
Stevehwan
Messages: 207
Registered: January 2006
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Hey Tom, looks like I was typing while you posted, so my last post will look
like it isn't making any sense. Steve
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Steve,
>Make sure your second Mec is attached to EDS card C!!!
>Your problems will be solved. You can still assign it to=20
>Submix B in the Group Master if needed.
>
>Let me guess? You can enable the tracks to record but nothing
>ever prints from the second Mec right? =20
>
>Good luck,
>Tom
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message =
>news:443c647e$1@linux...
> Hi Steve,
>
> I have done this many times. We have a 5 card, 2 MEC system=20
> operating. Each MEC has two 8it cards for 16 inputs per=20
> MEC. I patch all 16 card inputs to mixer channels on both=20
> MEC's, arm and press record... it's that easy. Do you have=20
> any specific questions about this? if so, fire away.
>
> David.
>
> Steve Cox wrote:
> > Loaded...16 all litepipe.
> > Steve
> > "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
> >=20
> >>How many inputs do you have on each EDS card?
> >>AA
> >>
> >>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message =
>news:443c492a$1@linux...
> >>
> >>>Though I have 3 EDS cards for each computer, 2 control 16s for each
=
>also
> >=20
> >=20
> >>>MECs,
> >>>through the years I have not figured out yet how to record 32 =
>Tracks=20
> >>>simultaneously.
> >>>Can this be done?
> >>>Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> >>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html=20
> >>
> >>
> >=20
> >
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Steve,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Make sure your second Mec is attached =
>to EDS card=20
>C!!!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your problems will be solved. You =
>can still=20
>assign it to </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Submix B in the Group Master if=20
>needed.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Let me guess? You can enable the =
>tracks to=20
>record but nothing</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ever prints from the second Mec =
>right? =20
></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good luck,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV>"Dave(EK Sound)" <<A=20
> =
>href=3D"mailto:audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca">audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca</A>&g=
>t;=20
> wrote in message <A=20
> href=3D"news:443c647e$1@linux">news:443c647e$1@linux</A>...</DIV>Hi=20
> Steve,<BR><BR>I have done this many times. We have a 5 card, 2 =
>MEC=20
> system <BR>operating. Each MEC has two 8it cards for 16 inputs =
>per=20
> <BR>MEC. I patch all 16 card inputs to mixer channels on both =
><BR>MEC's,=20
> arm and press record... it's that easy. Do you have <BR>any =
>specific=20
> questions about this? if so, fire away.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Steve Cox
=
>
> wrote:<BR>> Loaded...16 all litepipe.<BR>> Steve<BR>> "Aaron =
>Allen"=20
> <<A =
>href=3D"mailto:nospam@not_here.dude">nospam@not_here.dude</A>>=20
> wrote:<BR>> <BR>>>How many inputs do you have on each EDS=20
> card?<BR>>>AA<BR>>><BR>>>"Steve Cox" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:stevec1@charter.net">stevec1@charter.net</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> <A=20
> =
>href=3D"news:443c492a$1@linux">news:443c492a$1@linux</A>...<BR>>><B=
>R>>>>Though=20
> I have 3 EDS cards for each computer, 2 control 16s for each =
>also<BR>>=20
> <BR>> <BR>>>>MECs,<BR>>>>through the years I have =
>not=20
> figured out yet how to record 32 Tracks=20
> <BR>>>>simultaneously.<BR>>>>Can this be=20
> done?<BR>>>>Steve<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>I choose =
>
> Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and=20
> you?<BR>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html=20
> <BR>>><BR>>><BR>> <BR>></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66569 is a reply to message #66566] |
Tue, 11 April 2006 20:37 |
Stevehwan
Messages: 207
Registered: January 2006
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Is an MEC only capable of sending 16 channels, regardless of how many Adat
optical cards it has?
Steve
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>Ahhh, So the trick is a second MEC to the second card? If I have 3 cards,
>how does this show up in the busses? I take it if a card has an MEC on it
>It will record?
>So here's a given scenario: 3 cards, 3 Busses, 2 MECs. Buss-1 says "A" Buss-2
>says "B" Buss-3 Says "C" Now BUSS 1 has an MEC and Buss 2 has the second
>MEC. You're saying that Buss 1 and 2 will record simultaneously but Bus
3
>can only be playback (because it does have a card), therefore doesn't need
>to be updated?
>Thanks... Steve
>
>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>Hi Steve,
>>
>>I have done this many times. We have a 5 card, 2 MEC system
>>operating. Each MEC has two 8it cards for 16 inputs per
>>MEC. I patch all 16 card inputs to mixer channels on both
>>MEC's, arm and press record... it's that easy. Do you have
>>any specific questions about this? if so, fire away.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>> Loaded...16 all litepipe.
>>> Steve
>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>
>>>>How many inputs do you have on each EDS card?
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:443c492a$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>Though I have 3 EDS cards for each computer, 2 control 16s for each
also
>>>
>>>
>>>>>MECs,
>>>>>through the years I have not figured out yet how to record 32 Tracks
>
>>>>>simultaneously.
>>>>>Can this be done?
>>>>>Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66570 is a reply to message #66566] |
Tue, 11 April 2006 20:32 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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no, the trick is the this.. I'll use my setup as an example
EDS 1, mixer A, MEC1
EDS 2, mixer B, -no interface-
EDS 3, mixer C, MEC2
Make sure you have a wordclock cable of quality from MEC1 to MEC2
You will be able to stream 24 channels per MEC, but only record 16 per MEC
(due to channel limitations, but you can push more audio down the auxes if
you have the inputs). Be aware that there is a known latency between Card A
and Card B reported of 10 - 14 samples, then 2 samples per each card
thereafter.
AA
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:443c72d6$1@linux...
>
> Ahhh, So the trick is a second MEC to the second card? If I have 3 cards,
> how does this show up in the busses? I take it if a card has an MEC on it
> It will record?
> So here's a given scenario: 3 cards, 3 Busses, 2 MECs. Buss-1 says "A"
> Buss-2
> says "B" Buss-3 Says "C" Now BUSS 1 has an MEC and Buss 2 has the second
> MEC. You're saying that Buss 1 and 2 will record simultaneously but Bus 3
> can only be playback (because it does have a card), therefore doesn't need
> to be updated?
> Thanks... Steve
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>Hi Steve,
>>
>>I have done this many times. We have a 5 card, 2 MEC system
>>operating. Each MEC has two 8it cards for 16 inputs per
>>MEC. I patch all 16 card inputs to mixer channels on both
>>MEC's, arm and press record... it's that easy. Do you have
>>any specific questions about this? if so, fire away.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>> Loaded...16 all litepipe.
>>> Steve
>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>
>>>>How many inputs do you have on each EDS card?
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:443c492a$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>Though I have 3 EDS cards for each computer, 2 control 16s for each
>>>>>also
>>>
>>>
>>>>>MECs,
>>>>>through the years I have not figured out yet how to record 32 Tracks
>
>>>>>simultaneously.
>>>>>Can this be done?
>>>>>Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66573 is a reply to message #66566] |
Tue, 11 April 2006 20:53 |
audioguy_editout_
Messages: 249
Registered: December 2005
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Hi Steve,
I think we have a terminology issue...
OK, here is how Paris lays things out...
Each "Submix" can be assigned to either a Card, Virtual or
Native (Native selection requires V3 software) The idea is
to have two MEC's... one connected to Card A (default
master) and as Tom mentioned, one MEC connected to the *last
EDS card*. Each MEC would require sufficient expansion
modules to input 16 channels of audio. You can then assign
Submix 1 to Card A (master MEC location) and Submix 2 to the
last EDS card (slave MEC location... in your case, Card C).
A BNC word clock cable must run from the master MEC W/C
output to the slave MEC W/C input.
In the patchbay window, you need to drag the following into
the window:
Mixer A
MEC Modules A
Mixer C (assuming a 3 card system)
MEC Modules C
Double click on the MEC Modules blocks and drag the I/O card
blocks to the appropriate location in the module assign
window (in your case, the adat I/O modules would fill both
input spots). Once you have assigned the modules, return to
the patchbay window and patch from:
MEC modules A output 1 to Mixer A input 1
MEC modules A output 2 to Mixer A input 2
etc etc etc....
Continue until all modules are patched to both Submix blocks.
That's it... you should be able to arm and record to both
submixes at the same time. You can also play back any
tracks residing in Submix 3 (assigned to Card B) at the same
time you are recording the 32 tracks into Submixes 1 and 2.
Clear as mud?? ;-) this is from memory (I'm at home right
now)... and I haven't actually booted Paris since November,
so my memory may be a bit foggy on a few points.
Good luck!
David.
Steve Cox wrote:
> Ahhh, So the trick is a second MEC to the second card? If I have 3 cards,
> how does this show up in the busses? I take it if a card has an MEC on it
> It will record?
> So here's a given scenario: 3 cards, 3 Busses, 2 MECs. Buss-1 says "A" Buss-2
> says "B" Buss-3 Says "C" Now BUSS 1 has an MEC and Buss 2 has the second
> MEC. You're saying that Buss 1 and 2 will record simultaneously but Bus 3
> can only be playback (because it does have a card), therefore doesn't need
> to be updated?
> Thanks... Steve
>
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>Hi Steve,
>>
>>I have done this many times. We have a 5 card, 2 MEC system
>>operating. Each MEC has two 8it cards for 16 inputs per
>>MEC. I patch all 16 card inputs to mixer channels on both
>>MEC's, arm and press record... it's that easy. Do you have
>>any specific questions about this? if so, fire away.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>
>>>Loaded...16 all litepipe.
>>>Steve
>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>How many inputs do you have on each EDS card?
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:443c492a$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Though I have 3 EDS cards for each computer, 2 control 16s for each also
>>>
>>>
>>>>>MECs,
>>>>>through the years I have not figured out yet how to record 32 Tracks
>
>
>>>>>simultaneously.
>>>>>Can this be done?
>>>>>Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66574 is a reply to message #66570] |
Tue, 11 April 2006 21:03 |
Stevehwan
Messages: 207
Registered: January 2006
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Aaron, I tried e-mailing you and it came back undeliverable. May I e-mail
you? if so what is your e-mail address? I am at stevec1@charter.net
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>no, the trick is the this.. I'll use my setup as an example
>EDS 1, mixer A, MEC1
>EDS 2, mixer B, -no interface-
>EDS 3, mixer C, MEC2
>
>Make sure you have a wordclock cable of quality from MEC1 to MEC2
>You will be able to stream 24 channels per MEC, but only record 16 per MEC
>(due to channel limitations, but you can push more audio down the auxes
if
>you have the inputs). Be aware that there is a known latency between Card
A
>and Card B reported of 10 - 14 samples, then 2 samples per each card
>thereafter.
>
>AA
>
>
>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:443c72d6$1@linux...
>>
>> Ahhh, So the trick is a second MEC to the second card? If I have 3 cards,
>> how does this show up in the busses? I take it if a card has an MEC on
it
>> It will record?
>> So here's a given scenario: 3 cards, 3 Busses, 2 MECs. Buss-1 says "A"
>> Buss-2
>> says "B" Buss-3 Says "C" Now BUSS 1 has an MEC and Buss 2 has the second
>> MEC. You're saying that Buss 1 and 2 will record simultaneously but Bus
3
>> can only be playback (because it does have a card), therefore doesn't
need
>> to be updated?
>> Thanks... Steve
>>
>> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>Hi Steve,
>>>
>>>I have done this many times. We have a 5 card, 2 MEC system
>>>operating. Each MEC has two 8it cards for 16 inputs per
>>>MEC. I patch all 16 card inputs to mixer channels on both
>>>MEC's, arm and press record... it's that easy. Do you have
>>>any specific questions about this? if so, fire away.
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>>> Loaded...16 all litepipe.
>>>> Steve
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>How many inputs do you have on each EDS card?
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:443c492a$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Though I have 3 EDS cards for each computer, 2 control 16s for each
>>>>>>also
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>MECs,
>>>>>>through the years I have not figured out yet how to record 32 Tracks
>>
>>>>>>simultaneously.
>>>>>>Can this be done?
>>>>>>Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66575 is a reply to message #66569] |
Tue, 11 April 2006 20:59 |
audioguy_editout_
Messages: 249
Registered: December 2005
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The MEC is capable of routing more than 16 channels... the
issue is that the "Mixer" connected to the MEC can ONLY
record 16 channels max at one time... you can *not* cross
patch between submixes from any one MEC. You could record
128 channels simpultaneously (I know this has been done at
least by two people that frequented this group) but it would
require 8 EDS cards and 8 MEC's each loaded with 16 channels
of expansion input.
David.
Steve Cox wrote:
> Is an MEC only capable of sending 16 channels, regardless of how many Adat
> optical cards it has?
> Steve
>
> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>>Ahhh, So the trick is a second MEC to the second card? If I have 3 cards,
>>how does this show up in the busses? I take it if a card has an MEC on it
>>It will record?
>>So here's a given scenario: 3 cards, 3 Busses, 2 MECs. Buss-1 says "A" Buss-2
>>says "B" Buss-3 Says "C" Now BUSS 1 has an MEC and Buss 2 has the second
>>MEC. You're saying that Buss 1 and 2 will record simultaneously but Bus
>
> 3
>
>>can only be playback (because it does have a card), therefore doesn't need
>>to be updated?
>>Thanks... Steve
>>
>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Steve,
>>>
>>>I have done this many times. We have a 5 card, 2 MEC system
>>>operating. Each MEC has two 8it cards for 16 inputs per
>>>MEC. I patch all 16 card inputs to mixer channels on both
>>>MEC's, arm and press record... it's that easy. Do you have
>>>any specific questions about this? if so, fire away.
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>>
>>>>Loaded...16 all litepipe.
>>>>Steve
>>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>How many inputs do you have on each EDS card?
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:443c492a$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Though I have 3 EDS cards for each computer, 2 control 16s for each
>
> also
>
>>>>
>>>>>>MECs,
>>>>>>through the years I have not figured out yet how to record 32 Tracks
>>
>>>>>>simultaneously.
>>>>>>Can this be done?
>>>>>>Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66591 is a reply to message #66589] |
Tue, 11 April 2006 22:39 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...? ...isn't
that OK?
....or am I missing something?
....I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what I've
read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda thought I had
the idea. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
>
>David.
>
>Kim wrote:
>
>> Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs together
>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock sends,
I
>>
>> have
>>
>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader digital console
>>>for input, also set for 44.1
>>>
>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default
>>>>>>master) and as Tom mentioned, one MEC connected to the *last
>>>>>>EDS card*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever card
has
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with their physical
>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine with
a
>>>
>>>given
>>>
>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment to work
>>>
>>>it
>>>
>>>>>out.
>>>>>
>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your case, as
decided
>>>>>by the Paris software.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>
>>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66613 is a reply to message #66591] |
Wed, 12 April 2006 09:31 |
Stevehwan
Messages: 207
Registered: January 2006
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The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 Digital 32 channel
board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
Steve
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
>
>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...? ...isn't
>that OK?
>
>...or am I missing something?
>
>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what I've
>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda thought I
had
>the idea. ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Kim wrote:
>>
>>> Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs together
>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock sends,
>I
>>>
>>> have
>>>
>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader digital
console
>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
>>>>
>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>David.
>>>>>
>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default
>>>>>>>master) and as Tom mentioned, one MEC connected to the *last
>>>>>>>EDS card*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever card
>has
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with their physical
>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine with
>a
>>>>
>>>>given
>>>>
>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment to
work
>>>>
>>>>it
>>>>
>>>>>>out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your case, as
>decided
>>>>>>by the Paris software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66617 is a reply to message #66613] |
Wed, 12 April 2006 09:57 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the other.
David.
Steve Cox wrote:
> The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 Digital 32 channel
> board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
> Steve
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
>>
>>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...? ...isn't
>>that OK?
>>
>>...or am I missing something?
>>
>>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what I've
>>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda thought I
>
> had
>
>>the idea. ;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>Kim wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs together
>>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock sends,
>>
>>I
>>
>>>>have
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader digital
>
> console
>
>>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
>>>>>
>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default
>>>>>>>>master) and as Tom mentioned, one MEC connected to the *last
>>>>>>>>EDS card*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever card
>>
>>has
>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with their physical
>>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine with
>>
>>a
>>
>>>>>given
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment to
>
> work
>
>>>>>it
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your case, as
>>
>>decided
>>
>>>>>>>by the Paris software.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66648 is a reply to message #66617] |
Thu, 13 April 2006 10:32 |
Stevehwan
Messages: 207
Registered: January 2006
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You can't. There is only one in and one out on each MEC. I need to have both
ins tied up with the master word clock or I will have pops n' snaps galore.
People hate hearing that in their headphones, and I really don't care to
spend the time snipping them out. With all the digital equipment, they all
have to be controled by one clock source. What you are suggesting would be
fine if I was ITB, but I am not. I have a motorized fader Digital console,
Eight ch. mic pres, and two MECs. The whole idea behind having a master word
clock is to stablize all your gear to 44.1 coming from one source.(my choice)Right??
Steve not the art guy
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the other.
>
>David.
>
>Steve Cox wrote:
>
>> The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 Digital
32 channel
>> board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
>> Steve
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
>>>
>>>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...? ...isn't
>>>that OK?
>>>
>>>...or am I missing something?
>>>
>>>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what I've
>>>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda thought
I
>>
>> had
>>
>>>the idea. ;o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs together
>>>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock sends,
>>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>>>have
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader digital
>>
>> console
>>
>>>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default
>>>>>>>>>master) and as Tom mentioned, one MEC connected to the *last
>>>>>>>>>EDS card*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever card
>>>
>>>has
>>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with their
physical
>>>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine with
>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>>>>given
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment to
>>
>> work
>>
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your case,
as
>>>
>>>decided
>>>
>>>>>>>>by the Paris software.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>
>>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66649 is a reply to message #66648] |
Thu, 13 April 2006 10:42 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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What I was refering to was feeding the WC from the external generator
to your master MEC, then connecting a short BNC cable from the master
MEC to the slave MEC (assuming both MEC's are connected to EDS cards
in ONE computer). The two MEC's will clock quite happily this way,
and will be more stable (by my experience) than feeding them both
directly from the WC gen. If you had 3+ MEC's, you would have to
connect WC directly to each unit and place the "Use house sync" line
into the Paris config file.
David.
Steve Cox wrote:
> You can't. There is only one in and one out on each MEC. I need to have both
> ins tied up with the master word clock or I will have pops n' snaps galore.
> People hate hearing that in their headphones, and I really don't care to
> spend the time snipping them out. With all the digital equipment, they all
> have to be controled by one clock source. What you are suggesting would be
> fine if I was ITB, but I am not. I have a motorized fader Digital console,
> Eight ch. mic pres, and two MECs. The whole idea behind having a master word
> clock is to stablize all your gear to 44.1 coming from one source.(my choice)Right??
> Steve not the art guy
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the other.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 Digital
>
> 32 channel
>
>>>board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
>>>Steve
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
>>>>
>>>>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...? ...isn't
>>>>that OK?
>>>>
>>>>...or am I missing something?
>>>>
>>>>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what I've
>>>>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda thought
>
> I
>
>>>had
>>>
>>>
>>>>the idea. ;o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>David.
>>>>>
>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs together
>>>>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock sends,
>>>>
>>>>I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>have
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader digital
>>>
>>>console
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default
>>>>>>>>>>master) and as Tom mentioned, one MEC connected to the *last
>>>>>>>>>>EDS card*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever card
>>>>
>>>>has
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with their
>
> physical
>
>>>>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine with
>>>>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>given
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment to
>>>
>>>work
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your case,
>
> as
>
>>>>decided
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>by the Paris software.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66659 is a reply to message #66649] |
Thu, 13 April 2006 16:10 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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I wonder if this isn't somehow tied directly to the larger latency jump
between the 1st and 2nd EDS cards?
AA
"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:443e8f0f$1@linux...
> What I was refering to was feeding the WC from the external generator to
> your master MEC, then connecting a short BNC cable from the master MEC to
> the slave MEC (assuming both MEC's are connected to EDS cards in ONE
> computer). The two MEC's will clock quite happily this way, and will be
> more stable (by my experience) than feeding them both directly from the WC
> gen. If you had 3+ MEC's, you would have to connect WC directly to each
> unit and place the "Use house sync" line into the Paris config file.
>
> David.
>
> Steve Cox wrote:
>> You can't. There is only one in and one out on each MEC. I need to have
>> both
>> ins tied up with the master word clock or I will have pops n' snaps
>> galore.
>> People hate hearing that in their headphones, and I really don't care to
>> spend the time snipping them out. With all the digital equipment, they
>> all
>> have to be controled by one clock source. What you are suggesting would
>> be
>> fine if I was ITB, but I am not. I have a motorized fader Digital
>> console,
>> Eight ch. mic pres, and two MECs. The whole idea behind having a master
>> word
>> clock is to stablize all your gear to 44.1 coming from one source.(my
>> choice)Right??
>> Steve not the art guy
>>
>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the other.
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 Digital
>>
>> 32 channel
>>
>>>>board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
>>>>Steve
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...?
>>>>>...isn't
>>>>>that OK?
>>>>>
>>>>>...or am I missing something?
>>>>>
>>>>>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what
>>>>>I've
>>>>>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda thought
>>
>> I
>>
>>>>had
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>the idea. ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs
>>>>>>>>together
>>>>>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock
>>>>>>>>sends,
>>>>>
>>>>>I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader digital
>>>>
>>>>console
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default master) and as Tom mentioned,
>>>>>>>>>>>one MEC connected to the *last EDS card*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever
>>>>>>>>>>card
>>>>>
>>>>>has
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with their
>>
>> physical
>>
>>>>>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine
>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>given
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment to
>>>>
>>>>work
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your case,
>>
>> as
>>
>>>>>decided
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>by the Paris software.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>
>>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66660 is a reply to message #66659] |
Thu, 13 April 2006 18:09 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>I wonder if this isn't somehow tied directly to the larger latency jump
>between the 1st and 2nd EDS cards?
>AA
I was wondering the same as I read it...
>
>
>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:443e8f0f$1@linux...
>> What I was refering to was feeding the WC from the external generator
to
>> your master MEC, then connecting a short BNC cable from the master MEC
to
>> the slave MEC (assuming both MEC's are connected to EDS cards in ONE
>> computer). The two MEC's will clock quite happily this way, and will
be
>> more stable (by my experience) than feeding them both directly from the
WC
>> gen. If you had 3+ MEC's, you would have to connect WC directly to each
>> unit and place the "Use house sync" line into the Paris config file.
>>
>> David.
>>
>> Steve Cox wrote:
>>> You can't. There is only one in and one out on each MEC. I need to have
>>> both
>>> ins tied up with the master word clock or I will have pops n' snaps
>>> galore.
>>> People hate hearing that in their headphones, and I really don't care
to
>>> spend the time snipping them out. With all the digital equipment, they
>>> all
>>> have to be controled by one clock source. What you are suggesting would
>>> be
>>> fine if I was ITB, but I am not. I have a motorized fader Digital
>>> console,
>>> Eight ch. mic pres, and two MECs. The whole idea behind having a master
>>> word
>>> clock is to stablize all your gear to 44.1 coming from one source.(my
>>> choice)Right??
>>> Steve not the art guy
>>>
>>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the other.
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 Digital
>>>
>>> 32 channel
>>>
>>>>>board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
>>>>>Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...?
>>>>>>...isn't
>>>>>>that OK?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>...or am I missing something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what
>>>>>>I've
>>>>>>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda thought
>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>>>>had
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>the idea. ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs
>>>>>>>>>together
>>>>>>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock
>>>>>>>>>sends,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader digital
>>>>>
>>>>>console
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default master) and as Tom mentioned,
>>>>>>>>>>>>one MEC connected to the *last EDS card*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever
>>>>>>>>>>>card
>>>>>>
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with their
>>>
>>> physical
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine
>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>given
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment
to
>>>>>
>>>>>work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your case,
>>>
>>> as
>>>
>>>>>>decided
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>by the Paris software.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66661 is a reply to message #66660] |
Thu, 13 April 2006 18:55 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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....though thinking about it, light speed is pretty dang fast. I'm pretty
sure the extra delay in travelling down the cable between MECs would be zilch
compared to the 10 sample or whatever EDS 2nd card gap.
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>I wonder if this isn't somehow tied directly to the larger latency jump
>
>>between the 1st and 2nd EDS cards?
>>AA
>
>I was wondering the same as I read it...
>
>>
>>
>>"EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:443e8f0f$1@linux...
>>> What I was refering to was feeding the WC from the external generator
>to
>>> your master MEC, then connecting a short BNC cable from the master MEC
>to
>>> the slave MEC (assuming both MEC's are connected to EDS cards in ONE
>>> computer). The two MEC's will clock quite happily this way, and will
>be
>>> more stable (by my experience) than feeding them both directly from the
>WC
>>> gen. If you had 3+ MEC's, you would have to connect WC directly to each
>
>>> unit and place the "Use house sync" line into the Paris config file.
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>> Steve Cox wrote:
>>>> You can't. There is only one in and one out on each MEC. I need to have
>
>>>> both
>>>> ins tied up with the master word clock or I will have pops n' snaps
>>>> galore.
>>>> People hate hearing that in their headphones, and I really don't care
>to
>>>> spend the time snipping them out. With all the digital equipment, they
>
>>>> all
>>>> have to be controled by one clock source. What you are suggesting would
>
>>>> be
>>>> fine if I was ITB, but I am not. I have a motorized fader Digital
>>>> console,
>>>> Eight ch. mic pres, and two MECs. The whole idea behind having a master
>
>>>> word
>>>> clock is to stablize all your gear to 44.1 coming from one source.(my
>
>>>> choice)Right??
>>>> Steve not the art guy
>>>>
>>>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the other.
>>>>>
>>>>>David.
>>>>>
>>>>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 Digital
>>>>
>>>> 32 channel
>>>>
>>>>>>board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
>>>>>>Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...?
>>>>>>>...isn't
>>>>>>>that OK?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>...or am I missing something?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what
>
>>>>>>>I've
>>>>>>>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda thought
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>>>>had
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the idea. ;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs
>
>>>>>>>>>>together
>>>>>>>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock
>>>>>>>>>>sends,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader digital
>>>>>>
>>>>>>console
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default master) and as Tom mentioned,
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>one MEC connected to the *last EDS card*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>card
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with their
>>>>
>>>> physical
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>given
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment
>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>work
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your case,
>>>>
>>>> as
>>>>
>>>>>>>decided
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>by the Paris software.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
>>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66662 is a reply to message #66649] |
Thu, 13 April 2006 19:00 |
Stevehwan
Messages: 207
Registered: January 2006
|
Senior Member |
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You'll probably read this and say "he's just not gettn' it" Buuuut.... Here's
the wire scheme and hopfully explain. My master word clock has four BNC outs.
One cable going to #one MEC's input, Two cable going to #2 MEC's input Three
cable going to the digital console, and Four cable going to the eight ch.
mic pre. Sooo with both ins on the MECs being taken up, I can't really run
a jumper from the out of MEC #1 to the in of MEC #3, because the in on MEC
#3 is already taken up by the master word clock. I don't want to daisy chain
the MECs. It defeats the whole reason for having 4 ports on a master wordclock.
But thanks for the thought.
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>What I was refering to was feeding the WC from the external generator
>to your master MEC, then connecting a short BNC cable from the master
>MEC to the slave MEC (assuming both MEC's are connected to EDS cards
>in ONE computer). The two MEC's will clock quite happily this way,
>and will be more stable (by my experience) than feeding them both
>directly from the WC gen. If you had 3+ MEC's, you would have to
>connect WC directly to each unit and place the "Use house sync" line
>into the Paris config file.
>
>David.
>
>Steve Cox wrote:
>> You can't. There is only one in and one out on each MEC. I need to have
both
>> ins tied up with the master word clock or I will have pops n' snaps galore.
>> People hate hearing that in their headphones, and I really don't care
to
>> spend the time snipping them out. With all the digital equipment, they
all
>> have to be controled by one clock source. What you are suggesting would
be
>> fine if I was ITB, but I am not. I have a motorized fader Digital console,
>> Eight ch. mic pres, and two MECs. The whole idea behind having a master
word
>> clock is to stablize all your gear to 44.1 coming from one source.(my
choice)Right??
>> Steve not the art guy
>>
>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the other.
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 Digital
>>
>> 32 channel
>>
>>>>board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
>>>>Steve
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...? ...isn't
>>>>>that OK?
>>>>>
>>>>>...or am I missing something?
>>>>>
>>>>>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what
I've
>>>>>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda thought
>>
>> I
>>
>>>>had
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>the idea. ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs
together
>>>>>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock sends,
>>>>>
>>>>>I
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader digital
>>>>
>>>>console
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default
>>>>>>>>>>>master) and as Tom mentioned, one MEC connected to the *last
>>>>>>>>>>>EDS card*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever
card
>>>>>
>>>>>has
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with their
>>
>> physical
>>
>>>>>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine
with
>>>>>
>>>>>a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>given
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment
to
>>>>
>>>>work
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your case,
>>
>> as
>>
>>>>>decided
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>by the Paris software.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>
>>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66663 is a reply to message #66662] |
Thu, 13 April 2006 19:19 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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What Dave is suggesting I think is that you run the exact setup you have,
but for the second MEC, instead of running from the Wordclock, run from the
first MEC. Leave everything else, but the cable from the wordclock to the
2nd MEC, unplug it at the wordclock and plug it in to the output of MEC 1.
That's how I'm understanding him anyhow.
That said, what you have running currently should work I think. He's simply
saying that daisy chaining will make the system more stable, but this will
vary between systems. Yours may be fine running wordclock to everything.
Cheers,
Kim.
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>
>You'll probably read this and say "he's just not gettn' it" Buuuut.... Here's
>the wire scheme and hopfully explain. My master word clock has four BNC
outs.
>One cable going to #one MEC's input, Two cable going to #2 MEC's input Three
>cable going to the digital console, and Four cable going to the eight ch.
>mic pre. Sooo with both ins on the MECs being taken up, I can't really run
>a jumper from the out of MEC #1 to the in of MEC #3, because the in on MEC
>#3 is already taken up by the master word clock. I don't want to daisy chain
>the MECs. It defeats the whole reason for having 4 ports on a master wordclock.
>But thanks for the thought.
>
>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>What I was refering to was feeding the WC from the external generator
>>to your master MEC, then connecting a short BNC cable from the master
>>MEC to the slave MEC (assuming both MEC's are connected to EDS cards
>>in ONE computer). The two MEC's will clock quite happily this way,
>>and will be more stable (by my experience) than feeding them both
>>directly from the WC gen. If you had 3+ MEC's, you would have to
>>connect WC directly to each unit and place the "Use house sync" line
>>into the Paris config file.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>> You can't. There is only one in and one out on each MEC. I need to have
>both
>>> ins tied up with the master word clock or I will have pops n' snaps galore.
>>> People hate hearing that in their headphones, and I really don't care
>to
>>> spend the time snipping them out. With all the digital equipment, they
>all
>>> have to be controled by one clock source. What you are suggesting would
>be
>>> fine if I was ITB, but I am not. I have a motorized fader Digital console,
>>> Eight ch. mic pres, and two MECs. The whole idea behind having a master
>word
>>> clock is to stablize all your gear to 44.1 coming from one source.(my
>choice)Right??
>>> Steve not the art guy
>>>
>>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the other.
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 Digital
>>>
>>> 32 channel
>>>
>>>>>board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
>>>>>Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...? ...isn't
>>>>>>that OK?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>...or am I missing something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what
>I've
>>>>>>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda thought
>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>>>>had
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>the idea. ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs
>together
>>>>>>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock sends,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader digital
>>>>>
>>>>>console
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default
>>>>>>>>>>>>master) and as Tom mentioned, one MEC connected to the *last
>>>>>>>>>>>>EDS card*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever
>card
>>>>>>
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with their
>>>
>>> physical
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine
>with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>given
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment
>to
>>>>>
>>>>>work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your case,
>>>
>>> as
>>>
>>>>>>decided
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>by the Paris software.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66664 is a reply to message #66663] |
Thu, 13 April 2006 19:40 |
Stevehwan
Messages: 207
Registered: January 2006
|
Senior Member |
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Alright....
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>What Dave is suggesting I think is that you run the exact setup you have,
>but for the second MEC, instead of running from the Wordclock, run from
the
>first MEC. Leave everything else, but the cable from the wordclock to the
>2nd MEC, unplug it at the wordclock and plug it in to the output of MEC
1.
>That's how I'm understanding him anyhow.
>
>That said, what you have running currently should work I think. He's simply
>saying that daisy chaining will make the system more stable, but this will
>vary between systems. Yours may be fine running wordclock to everything.
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>You'll probably read this and say "he's just not gettn' it" Buuuut....
Here's
>>the wire scheme and hopfully explain. My master word clock has four BNC
>outs.
>>One cable going to #one MEC's input, Two cable going to #2 MEC's input
Three
>>cable going to the digital console, and Four cable going to the eight ch.
>>mic pre. Sooo with both ins on the MECs being taken up, I can't really
run
>>a jumper from the out of MEC #1 to the in of MEC #3, because the in on
MEC
>>#3 is already taken up by the master word clock. I don't want to daisy
chain
>>the MECs. It defeats the whole reason for having 4 ports on a master wordclock.
>>But thanks for the thought.
>>
>>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>What I was refering to was feeding the WC from the external generator
>>>to your master MEC, then connecting a short BNC cable from the master
>>>MEC to the slave MEC (assuming both MEC's are connected to EDS cards
>>>in ONE computer). The two MEC's will clock quite happily this way,
>>>and will be more stable (by my experience) than feeding them both
>>>directly from the WC gen. If you had 3+ MEC's, you would have to
>>>connect WC directly to each unit and place the "Use house sync" line
>>>into the Paris config file.
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>>> You can't. There is only one in and one out on each MEC. I need to have
>>both
>>>> ins tied up with the master word clock or I will have pops n' snaps
galore.
>>>> People hate hearing that in their headphones, and I really don't care
>>to
>>>> spend the time snipping them out. With all the digital equipment, they
>>all
>>>> have to be controled by one clock source. What you are suggesting would
>>be
>>>> fine if I was ITB, but I am not. I have a motorized fader Digital console,
>>>> Eight ch. mic pres, and two MECs. The whole idea behind having a master
>>word
>>>> clock is to stablize all your gear to 44.1 coming from one source.(my
>>choice)Right??
>>>> Steve not the art guy
>>>>
>>>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the other.
>>>>>
>>>>>David.
>>>>>
>>>>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 Digital
>>>>
>>>> 32 channel
>>>>
>>>>>>board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
>>>>>>Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...? ...isn't
>>>>>>>that OK?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>...or am I missing something?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what
>>I've
>>>>>>>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda thought
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>>>>had
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the idea. ;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs
>>together
>>>>>>>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock
sends,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader digital
>>>>>>
>>>>>>console
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>master) and as Tom mentioned, one MEC connected to the *last
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>EDS card*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever
>>card
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with their
>>>>
>>>> physical
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine
>>with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>given
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment
>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>work
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your case,
>>>>
>>>> as
>>>>
>>>>>>>decided
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>by the Paris software.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66665 is a reply to message #66662] |
Thu, 13 April 2006 20:11 |
audioguy_editout_
Messages: 249
Registered: December 2005
|
Senior Member |
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Can you record *and* playback from the second MEC attached
to another submix? Do you have the Use House Sync line in
your config file?
David.
Steve Cox wrote:
> You'll probably read this and say "he's just not gettn' it" Buuuut.... Here's
> the wire scheme and hopfully explain. My master word clock has four BNC outs.
> One cable going to #one MEC's input, Two cable going to #2 MEC's input Three
> cable going to the digital console, and Four cable going to the eight ch.
> mic pre. Sooo with both ins on the MECs being taken up, I can't really run
> a jumper from the out of MEC #1 to the in of MEC #3, because the in on MEC
> #3 is already taken up by the master word clock. I don't want to daisy chain
> the MECs. It defeats the whole reason for having 4 ports on a master wordclock.
> But thanks for the thought.
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>What I was refering to was feeding the WC from the external generator
>>to your master MEC, then connecting a short BNC cable from the master
>>MEC to the slave MEC (assuming both MEC's are connected to EDS cards
>>in ONE computer). The two MEC's will clock quite happily this way,
>>and will be more stable (by my experience) than feeding them both
>>directly from the WC gen. If you had 3+ MEC's, you would have to
>>connect WC directly to each unit and place the "Use house sync" line
>>into the Paris config file.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>
>>>You can't. There is only one in and one out on each MEC. I need to have
>
> both
>
>>>ins tied up with the master word clock or I will have pops n' snaps galore.
>>>People hate hearing that in their headphones, and I really don't care
>
> to
>
>>>spend the time snipping them out. With all the digital equipment, they
>
> all
>
>>>have to be controled by one clock source. What you are suggesting would
>
> be
>
>>>fine if I was ITB, but I am not. I have a motorized fader Digital console,
>>>Eight ch. mic pres, and two MECs. The whole idea behind having a master
>
> word
>
>>>clock is to stablize all your gear to 44.1 coming from one source.(my
>
> choice)Right??
>
>>>Steve not the art guy
>>>
>>>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the other.
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 Digital
>>>
>>>32 channel
>>>
>>>
>>>>>board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
>>>>>Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...? ...isn't
>>>>>>that OK?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>...or am I missing something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what
>
> I've
>
>>>>>>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda thought
>>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>had
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>the idea. ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs
>
> together
>
>>>>>>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock sends,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader digital
>>>>>
>>>>>console
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default
>>>>>>>>>>>>master) and as Tom mentioned, one MEC connected to the *last
>>>>>>>>>>>>EDS card*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever
>
> card
>
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with their
>>>
>>>physical
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine
>
> with
>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>given
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment
>
> to
>
>>>>>work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your case,
>>>
>>>as
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>decided
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>by the Paris software.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>
>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66667 is a reply to message #66659] |
Thu, 13 April 2006 20:54 |
audioguy_editout_
Messages: 249
Registered: December 2005
|
Senior Member |
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|
It would be interesting to see what the card 2 latency is
with and without house sync. I am sure that BT probably did
this already, and would have posted his findings if there
were an improvement to be had.
David.
Aaron Allen wrote:
> I wonder if this isn't somehow tied directly to the larger latency jump
> between the 1st and 2nd EDS cards?
> AA
>
>
> "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:443e8f0f$1@linux...
>
>>What I was refering to was feeding the WC from the external generator to
>>your master MEC, then connecting a short BNC cable from the master MEC to
>>the slave MEC (assuming both MEC's are connected to EDS cards in ONE
>>computer). The two MEC's will clock quite happily this way, and will be
>>more stable (by my experience) than feeding them both directly from the WC
>>gen. If you had 3+ MEC's, you would have to connect WC directly to each
>>unit and place the "Use house sync" line into the Paris config file.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>
>>>You can't. There is only one in and one out on each MEC. I need to have
>>>both
>>>ins tied up with the master word clock or I will have pops n' snaps
>>>galore.
>>>People hate hearing that in their headphones, and I really don't care to
>>>spend the time snipping them out. With all the digital equipment, they
>>>all
>>>have to be controled by one clock source. What you are suggesting would
>>>be
>>>fine if I was ITB, but I am not. I have a motorized fader Digital
>>>console,
>>>Eight ch. mic pres, and two MECs. The whole idea behind having a master
>>>word
>>>clock is to stablize all your gear to 44.1 coming from one source.(my
>>>choice)Right??
>>>Steve not the art guy
>>>
>>>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the other.
>>>>
>>>>David.
>>>>
>>>>Steve Cox wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 Digital
>>>
>>>32 channel
>>>
>>>
>>>>>board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
>>>>>Steve
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...?
>>>>>>...isn't
>>>>>>that OK?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>...or am I missing something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what
>>>>>>I've
>>>>>>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda thought
>>>
>>>I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>had
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>the idea. ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs
>>>>>>>>>together
>>>>>>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock
>>>>>>>>>sends,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader digital
>>>>>
>>>>>console
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>David.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default master) and as Tom mentioned,
>>>>>>>>>>>>one MEC connected to the *last EDS card*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever
>>>>>>>>>>>card
>>>>>>
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with their
>>>
>>>physical
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine
>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>given
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment to
>>>>>
>>>>>work
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your case,
>>>
>>>as
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>decided
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>by the Paris software.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>>>>
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66751 is a reply to message #66667] |
Sat, 15 April 2006 00:12 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
|
Senior Member |
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|
If Steve is using direct WC feeds to the BNC inputs of each MEC, I would
still advise adding the UseHouseSync=1 to the Paris.cfg file and also
opening Paris from the main .exe file in the EMU directory in Program Files,
setting the project that opens to sync source=word clock and saving this as
"default project.ppj" both in the EMU directory and on his desktop. then
open Paris from this default project.ppj on the desktop. Leave the Aardsync
set to 44.1. Paris likes to open to 48kHz sample rate when syncing to an
external WC, even if the WC is set to 44.1. Once this project is open, he
can navigate ot his other projects which are set to 44.1 and he should be
good to go.
Deej
"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:443f1eb3@linux...
> It would be interesting to see what the card 2 latency is
> with and without house sync. I am sure that BT probably did
> this already, and would have posted his findings if there
> were an improvement to be had.
>
> David.
>
> Aaron Allen wrote:
>
> > I wonder if this isn't somehow tied directly to the larger latency jump
> > between the 1st and 2nd EDS cards?
> > AA
> >
> >
> > "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message news:443e8f0f$1@linux...
> >
> >>What I was refering to was feeding the WC from the external generator to
> >>your master MEC, then connecting a short BNC cable from the master MEC
to
> >>the slave MEC (assuming both MEC's are connected to EDS cards in ONE
> >>computer). The two MEC's will clock quite happily this way, and will be
> >>more stable (by my experience) than feeding them both directly from the
WC
> >>gen. If you had 3+ MEC's, you would have to connect WC directly to each
> >>unit and place the "Use house sync" line into the Paris config file.
> >>
> >>David.
> >>
> >>Steve Cox wrote:
> >>
> >>>You can't. There is only one in and one out on each MEC. I need to have
> >>>both
> >>>ins tied up with the master word clock or I will have pops n' snaps
> >>>galore.
> >>>People hate hearing that in their headphones, and I really don't care
to
> >>>spend the time snipping them out. With all the digital equipment, they
> >>>all
> >>>have to be controled by one clock source. What you are suggesting would
> >>>be
> >>>fine if I was ITB, but I am not. I have a motorized fader Digital
> >>>console,
> >>>Eight ch. mic pres, and two MECs. The whole idea behind having a master
> >>>word
> >>>clock is to stablize all your gear to 44.1 coming from one source.(my
> >>>choice)Right??
> >>>Steve not the art guy
> >>>
> >>>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the other.
> >>>>
> >>>>David.
> >>>>
> >>>>Steve Cox wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 Digital
> >>>
> >>>32 channel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
> >>>>>Steve
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...?
> >>>>>>...isn't
> >>>>>>that OK?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>...or am I missing something?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what
> >>>>>>I've
> >>>>>>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda
thought
> >>>
> >>>I
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>had
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>the idea. ;o)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>Kim.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>David.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Kim wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>Kim.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs
> >>>>>>>>>together
> >>>>>>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock
> >>>>>>>>>sends,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>have
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader
digital
> >>>>>
> >>>>>console
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>David.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default master) and as Tom mentioned,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>one MEC connected to the *last EDS card*
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever
> >>>>>>>>>>>card
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>has
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with
their
> >>>
> >>>physical
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine
> >>>>>>>>>>>with
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>a
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>given
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment
to
> >>>>>
> >>>>>work
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>it
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>out.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your
case,
> >>>
> >>>as
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>decided
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>by the Paris software.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >
> >
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> >
> >
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66752 is a reply to message #66751] |
Sat, 15 April 2006 00:14 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
|
Senior Member |
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sorry.....this is very important:
opening Paris from the main .exe file in the EMU directory in Program =
Files,
> setting the project that opens to sync source=3Dword clock and saving =
this as
> "default project.ppj and setting the sample rate to 48kHz.
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message =
news:44409f47@linux...
> If Steve is using direct WC feeds to the BNC inputs of each MEC, I =
would
> still advise adding the UseHouseSync=3D1 to the Paris.cfg file and =
also
> opening Paris from the main .exe file in the EMU directory in Program =
Files,
> setting the project that opens to sync source=3Dword clock and saving =
this as
> "default project.ppj" both in the EMU directory and on his desktop. =
then
> open Paris from this default project.ppj on the desktop. Leave the =
Aardsync
> set to 44.1. Paris likes to open to 48kHz sample rate when syncing to =
an
> external WC, even if the WC is set to 44.1. Once this project is open, =
he
> can navigate ot his other projects which are set to 44.1 and he should =
be
> good to go.
>=20
> Deej
>=20
>=20
> "Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:443f1eb3@linux...
> > It would be interesting to see what the card 2 latency is
> > with and without house sync. I am sure that BT probably did
> > this already, and would have posted his findings if there
> > were an improvement to be had.
> >
> > David.
> >
> > Aaron Allen wrote:
> >
> > > I wonder if this isn't somehow tied directly to the larger latency =
jump
> > > between the 1st and 2nd EDS cards?
> > > AA
> > >
> > >
> > > "EK Sound" <askme@nospam.com> wrote in message =
news:443e8f0f$1@linux...
> > >
> > >>What I was refering to was feeding the WC from the external =
generator to
> > >>your master MEC, then connecting a short BNC cable from the master =
MEC
> to
> > >>the slave MEC (assuming both MEC's are connected to EDS cards in =
ONE
> > >>computer). The two MEC's will clock quite happily this way, and =
will be
> > >>more stable (by my experience) than feeding them both directly =
from the
> WC
> > >>gen. If you had 3+ MEC's, you would have to connect WC directly =
to each
> > >>unit and place the "Use house sync" line into the Paris config =
file.
> > >>
> > >>David.
> > >>
> > >>Steve Cox wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>You can't. There is only one in and one out on each MEC. I need =
to have
> > >>>both
> > >>>ins tied up with the master word clock or I will have pops n' =
snaps
> > >>>galore.
> > >>>People hate hearing that in their headphones, and I really don't =
care
> to
> > >>>spend the time snipping them out. With all the digital equipment, =
they
> > >>>all
> > >>>have to be controled by one clock source. What you are suggesting =
would
> > >>>be
> > >>>fine if I was ITB, but I am not. I have a motorized fader Digital
> > >>>console,
> > >>>Eight ch. mic pres, and two MECs. The whole idea behind having a =
master
> > >>>word
> > >>>clock is to stablize all your gear to 44.1 coming from one =
source.(my
> > >>>choice)Right??
> > >>>Steve not the art guy
> > >>>
> > >>>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the other.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>David.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Steve Cox wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 =
Digital
> > >>>
> > >>>32 channel
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
> > >>>>>Steve
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...?
> > >>>>>>...isn't
> > >>>>>>that OK?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>...or am I missing something?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from =
what
> > >>>>>>I've
> > >>>>>>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda
> thought
> > >>>
> > >>>I
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>had
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>the idea. ;o)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>Cheers,
> > >>>>>>Kim.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>David.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>Kim wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>Kim.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the =
2 mecs
> > >>>>>>>>>together
> > >>>>>>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word =
clock
> > >>>>>>>>>sends,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>I
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>have
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized =
fader
> digital
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>console
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>David.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default master) and as Tom =
mentioned,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>one MEC connected to the *last EDS card*
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to =
"whichever
> > >>>>>>>>>>>card
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>has
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>the
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do =
with
> their
> > >>>
> > >>>physical
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given =
machine
> > >>>>>>>>>>>with
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>a
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>given
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to =
experiment
> to
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>work
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>it
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>out.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in =
your
> case,
> > >>>
> > >>>as
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>>decided
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>by the Paris software.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>Kim.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >
> > >
> > > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
> > > http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
> > >
> > >
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sorry.....this is very =
important:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> opening Paris from the main .exe =
file in the=20
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to sync=20
source=3Dword clock and saving this as<BR>> "default project.ppj=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"DJ" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>>=20
wrote in message </FONT><A href=3D"news:44409f47@linux"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
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size=3D2>...</FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> If Steve is =
using direct WC=20
feeds to the BNC inputs of each MEC, I would<BR>> still advise adding =
the=20
UseHouseSync=3D1 to the Paris.cfg file and also<BR>> opening Paris =
from the=20
main .exe file in the EMU directory in Program Files,<BR>> setting =
the=20
project that opens to sync source=3Dword clock and saving this =
as<BR>> "default=20
project.ppj" both in the EMU directory and on his desktop. then<BR>> =
open=20
Paris from this default project.ppj on the desktop. Leave the =
Aardsync<BR>>=20
set to 44.1. Paris likes to open to 48kHz sample rate when syncing to =
an<BR>>=20
external WC, even if the WC is set to 44.1. Once this project is open,=20
he<BR>> can navigate ot his other projects which are set to 44.1 and =
he=20
should be<BR>> good to go.<BR>> <BR>> Deej<BR>> <BR>> =
<BR>>=20
"Dave(EK Sound)" <</FONT><A =
href=3D"mailto:audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>> wrote in message<BR>> </FONT><A =
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face=3DArial size=3D2>news:443f1eb3@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>...<BR>> > It would be interesting to see what the card 2 =
latency=20
is<BR>> > with and without house sync. I am sure that BT =
probably=20
did<BR>> > this already, and would have posted his findings if=20
there<BR>> > were an improvement to be had.<BR>> ><BR>> =
>=20
David.<BR>> ><BR>> > Aaron Allen wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> =
>=20
> I wonder if this isn't somehow tied directly to the larger latency=20
jump<BR>> > > between the 1st and 2nd EDS cards?<BR>> > =
>=20
AA<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > "EK Sound"=20
<</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>askme@nospam.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> =
wrote in message=20
</FONT><A href=3D"news:443e8f0f$1@linux"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>news:443e8f0f$1@linux</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>...<BR>> >=20
><BR>> > >>What I was refering to was feeding the WC from =
the=20
external generator to<BR>> > >>your master MEC, then =
connecting a=20
short BNC cable from the master MEC<BR>> to<BR>> > >>the =
slave=20
MEC (assuming both MEC's are connected to EDS cards in ONE<BR>> >=20
>>computer). The two MEC's will clock quite happily this =
way, and=20
will be<BR>> > >>more stable (by my experience) than feeding =
them=20
both directly from the<BR>> WC<BR>> > >>gen. If you =
had 3+=20
MEC's, you would have to connect WC directly to each<BR>> > =
>>unit=20
and place the "Use house sync" line into the Paris config file.<BR>> =
>=20
>><BR>> > >>David.<BR>> > >><BR>> >=20
>>Steve Cox wrote:<BR>> > >><BR>> > =
>>>You=20
can't. There is only one in and one out on each MEC. I need to =
have<BR>> >=20
>>>both<BR>> > >>>ins tied up with the master =
word clock=20
or I will have pops n' snaps<BR>> > >>>galore.<BR>> =
>=20
>>>People hate hearing that in their headphones, and I really =
don't=20
care<BR>> to<BR>> > >>>spend the time snipping them =
out. With=20
all the digital equipment, they<BR>> > >>>all<BR>> =
>=20
>>>have to be controled by one clock source. What you are =
suggesting=20
would<BR>> > >>>be<BR>> > >>>fine if I was =
ITB,=20
but I am not. I have a motorized fader Digital<BR>> >=20
>>>console,<BR>> > >>>Eight ch. mic pres, and =
two MECs.=20
The whole idea behind having a master<BR>> > =
>>>word<BR>> >=20
>>>clock is to stablize all your gear to 44.1 coming from one=20
source.(my<BR>> > >>>choice)Right??<BR>> >=20
>>>Steve not the art guy<BR>> > >>><BR>> > =
>>>EK Sound <</FONT><A =
href=3D"mailto:askme@nospam.com"><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>askme@nospam.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>>=20
wrote:<BR>> > >>><BR>> > >>><BR>> >=20
>>>>Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the=20
other.<BR>> > >>>><BR>> > =
>>>>David.<BR>>=20
> >>>><BR>> > >>>>Steve Cox =
wrote:<BR>> >=20
>>>><BR>> > >>>><BR>> >=20
>>>><BR>> > >>>>>The reason I have the =
master=20
word clock is because of the DA7 Digital<BR>> > =
>>><BR>> >=20
>>>32 channel<BR>> > >>><BR>> >=20
>>><BR>> > >>>>>board, an 8 ch. mic pre, =
and 2=20
MECs. All locked in at 44.1<BR>> > =
>>>>>Steve<BR>> >=20
>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>"Kim" =
<</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>hiddensounds@hotmail.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>>=20
wrote:<BR>> > >>>>><BR>> >=20
>>>>><BR>> > >>>>><BR>> >=20
>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>>=20
wrote:<BR>> > >>>>>><BR>> >=20
>>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>><BR>> =
>=20
>>>>>>>huh? ?? have another beer mate! =
;-)<BR>>=20
> >>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>>Well =
I'm=20
assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...?<BR>> >=20
>>>>>>...isn't<BR >> > =
>>>>>>that=20
OK?<BR>> > >>>>>><BR>> >=20
>>>>>>...or am I missing something?<BR>> >=20
>>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>>...I mean =
I've=20
never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what<BR>> >=20
>>>>>>I've<BR>> > >>>>>>read =
here, but=20
after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda<BR>> thought<BR>> =
>=20
>>><BR>> > >>>I<BR>> > =
>>><BR>> >=20
>>><BR>> > >>>>>had<BR>> >=20
>>>>><BR>> > >>>>><BR>> >=20
>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>>the idea. =
;o)<BR>>=20
> >>>>>><BR>> >=20
>>>>>>Cheers,<BR>> >=20
>>>>>>Kim.<BR>> > =
>>>>>><BR>> >=20
>>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>><BR>> =
>=20
>>>>>><BR>> > =
>>>>>>>Davi d. <BR>>=20
> >>>>>>><BR >> > =
>>>>>>>Kim= 20
wrote:<BR>> > >>>>>>><BR >> >=20
>>>>>>><BR >> > =
>>>>>>><BR >>=20
> >>>>>>><BR >> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;Correct. If you're losing wordclock that =
will be=20
fine.<BR>> > >>>>>>>& ;gt; <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;Cheers, <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;Kim. <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt; <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt; "Steve Cox" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:stevec1@charter.net"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>stevec1@charter.net</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>> =
wrote:<BR>>=20
> >>>>>>>& ;gt; <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt; <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt; <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt; <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>Not sure if it matters, but I don't =
really=20
need to bnc the 2 mecs<BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>together <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>do I? as I use a master word clock. =
The=20
Aardsync. 4 word clock<BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>sends, <BR>> >=20
>>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>>I<BR>> =
>=20
>>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>><BR>> =
>=20
>>>>>><BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;have <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt; <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt; <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt; <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt; <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>everything set to 44.1 And I use a =
Ramsa DA7=20
motorized fader<BR>> digital<BR>> > =
>>>>><BR>> >=20
>>>>>console<BR>> > >>>>><BR>> =
>=20
>>>>><BR>> > >>>>><BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>for input, also set for 44.1<BR>> =
>=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> "Dave(EK Sound)" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca"><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>>=20
wrote:<BR>> > >>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>Don't do as I say, do as I =
think!=20
;-)<BR>> > >>>>>>>& ;gt;>> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>David. <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>Kim wrote:<BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>> "Dave(EK Sound)" =
<</FONT><A=20
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size=3D2>audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca</FONT></A><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>>=20
wrote:<BR>> > >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>> <BR>> =
>=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>>one connected to Card A =
(default=20
master) and as Tom mentioned,<BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>>one MEC connected to the =
*last=20
EDS card*<BR>> > =
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>You should also note that =
"last EDS=20
card" refers to "whichever<BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>card <BR>> >=20
>>>>>><BR>> > =
>>>>>>has<BR>> >=20
>>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>><BR>> =
>=20
>>>>>><BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>the <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>last designation". It does =
not refer=20
to anything to do with<BR>> their<BR>> > >>><BR>> =
>=20
>>>physical<BR>> > >>><BR>> > =
>>><BR>>=20
> >>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>location in your =
machine. Which=20
one is last in a given machine<BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>with <BR>> >=20
>>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>>a<BR>> =
>=20
>>>>>><BR>> > >>>>>><BR>> =
>=20
>>>>>><BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>given <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>OS is almost impossible to =
predict.=20
You will have to experiment<BR>> to<BR>> > =
>>>>><BR>>=20
> >>>>>work<BR>> > >>>>><BR>> =
>=20
>>>>><BR>> > >>>>><BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>it <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>out. <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>But the interfaces need to =
be on=20
card A and card C in your<BR>> case,<BR>> > =
>>><BR>> >=20
>>>as<BR>> > >>><BR>> > =
>>><BR>> >=20
>>>>>>decided<BR>> > =
>>>>>><BR>>=20
> >>>>>><BR>> > =
>>>>>><BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>by the Paris =
software.<BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>> <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>Cheers, <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;>>>Kim. <BR>> >=20
>>>>>>>& ;gt;> <BR>> > ><BR>> > =
><BR>>=20
> > I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?<BR>> =
> >=20
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Deej [1]
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Steve,
If you are using 3 x MECs, then this is how to get you system to work.
follow these steps exactly:
Use good quality BNC cables to run from your AArdsync to the MECs. the
shorter, the better.
Terminate the BNC outputs of each MEC with 75ohm terminator caps.
Now go to C://Program Files/EMU/Paris and add the following line to the
Paris .cfg file:
UseHouseSync=1
Save the .cfg file and reboot your machine.
Now, start your WC module, set it to 44.1kHz, then power up the MECs, then
go to C://Program Files/EMU/Paris and boot Paris from the Paris.exe file.
When Paris opens, set the sync source of the project to Word Clock and set
the project sample rate to 48kHz (it is extremely important that you use
48kHz-Paris won't properly lock to external WC without this)
Now save the project to C://Program Files/EMU/Paris under the name "default
project" (no quotes). Now also save this default project to you desktop (do
not just use it as a shortcut-the one in the C://Program Files/EMU/Paris is
a backup in case the one on your desktop gets corrupted).
Now close Paris and reboot your machine. You can now launch Paris from the
default project on your desktop and it should sync reliably. don't worry
about this being set to 48kHz. Just open one of your existing projects that
is 44.1kHz and you should be good to go.
I've been doing this for a long time. I've got 3 x MEC, 3 x RME HDSP cards
(96 x lightpipe I/O plus 6 x spdif I/O), a Lexicon PC90, a POD Pro, a
Quantec Yardstick and a TC Electonics D2 all receiving sync from a Mytek WC
distributed through two Lucid WC distro boxes and routed in and out of
digital patchbays. None of this worked reliably until I set my Paris default
project to 48kHz. Now Paris and all this other stuff locks up just fine but
you these hoops are necessary to jump through if you want Paris to reliably
sync to an external clock.
Regards,
Deej
"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message news:443f022f$1@linux...
>
> You'll probably read this and say "he's just not gettn' it" Buuuut....
Here's
> the wire scheme and hopfully explain. My master word clock has four BNC
outs.
> One cable going to #one MEC's input, Two cable going to #2 MEC's input
Three
> cable going to the digital console, and Four cable going to the eight ch.
> mic pre. Sooo with both ins on the MECs being taken up, I can't really run
> a jumper from the out of MEC #1 to the in of MEC #3, because the in on MEC
> #3 is already taken up by the master word clock. I don't want to daisy
chain
> the MECs. It defeats the whole reason for having 4 ports on a master
wordclock.
> But thanks for the thought.
>
> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
> >What I was refering to was feeding the WC from the external generator
> >to your master MEC, then connecting a short BNC cable from the master
> >MEC to the slave MEC (assuming both MEC's are connected to EDS cards
> >in ONE computer). The two MEC's will clock quite happily this way,
> >and will be more stable (by my experience) than feeding them both
> >directly from the WC gen. If you had 3+ MEC's, you would have to
> >connect WC directly to each unit and place the "Use house sync" line
> >into the Paris config file.
> >
> >David.
> >
> >Steve Cox wrote:
> >> You can't. There is only one in and one out on each MEC. I need to have
> both
> >> ins tied up with the master word clock or I will have pops n' snaps
galore.
> >> People hate hearing that in their headphones, and I really don't care
> to
> >> spend the time snipping them out. With all the digital equipment, they
> all
> >> have to be controled by one clock source. What you are suggesting would
> be
> >> fine if I was ITB, but I am not. I have a motorized fader Digital
console,
> >> Eight ch. mic pres, and two MECs. The whole idea behind having a master
> word
> >> clock is to stablize all your gear to 44.1 coming from one source.(my
> choice)Right??
> >> Steve not the art guy
> >>
> >> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the other.
> >>>
> >>>David.
> >>>
> >>>Steve Cox wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 Digital
> >>
> >> 32 channel
> >>
> >>>>board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
> >>>>Steve
> >>>>
> >>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...?
....isn't
> >>>>>that OK?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>...or am I missing something?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what
> I've
> >>>>>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda thought
> >>
> >> I
> >>
> >>>>had
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>the idea. ;o)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>Kim.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>David.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Kim wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>>Kim.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs
> together
> >>>>>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock
sends,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>have
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader
digital
> >>>>
> >>>>console
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>David.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default
> >>>>>>>>>>>master) and as Tom mentioned, one MEC connected to the *last
> >>>>>>>>>>>EDS card*
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever
> card
> >>>>>
> >>>>>has
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with
their
> >>
> >> physical
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine
> with
> >>>>>
> >>>>>a
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>given
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment
> to
> >>>>
> >>>>work
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>it
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>out.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your case,
> >>
> >> as
> >>
> >>>>>decided
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>by the Paris software.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>Kim.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>
>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66794 is a reply to message #66787] |
Sat, 15 April 2006 12:19 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Deej, have you noticed if it makes any difference *where* in the file you
put the house sync text? I'm wondering if that has any effect upon the load
order/stability of initializing Paris, or if you've played with that as an
option?
AA
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:44413bc5@linux...
> Steve,
>
> If you are using 3 x MECs, then this is how to get you system to work.
> follow these steps exactly:
>
> Use good quality BNC cables to run from your AArdsync to the MECs. the
> shorter, the better.
>
> Terminate the BNC outputs of each MEC with 75ohm terminator caps.
>
> Now go to C://Program Files/EMU/Paris and add the following line to the
> Paris .cfg file:
>
> UseHouseSync=1
>
> Save the .cfg file and reboot your machine.
>
> Now, start your WC module, set it to 44.1kHz, then power up the MECs, then
> go to C://Program Files/EMU/Paris and boot Paris from the Paris.exe file.
>
> When Paris opens, set the sync source of the project to Word Clock and set
> the project sample rate to 48kHz (it is extremely important that you use
> 48kHz-Paris won't properly lock to external WC without this)
>
> Now save the project to C://Program Files/EMU/Paris under the name
> "default
> project" (no quotes). Now also save this default project to you desktop
> (do
> not just use it as a shortcut-the one in the C://Program Files/EMU/Paris
> is
> a backup in case the one on your desktop gets corrupted).
>
> Now close Paris and reboot your machine. You can now launch Paris from the
> default project on your desktop and it should sync reliably. don't worry
> about this being set to 48kHz. Just open one of your existing projects
> that
> is 44.1kHz and you should be good to go.
>
> I've been doing this for a long time. I've got 3 x MEC, 3 x RME HDSP cards
> (96 x lightpipe I/O plus 6 x spdif I/O), a Lexicon PC90, a POD Pro, a
> Quantec Yardstick and a TC Electonics D2 all receiving sync from a Mytek
> WC
> distributed through two Lucid WC distro boxes and routed in and out of
> digital patchbays. None of this worked reliably until I set my Paris
> default
> project to 48kHz. Now Paris and all this other stuff locks up just fine
> but
> you these hoops are necessary to jump through if you want Paris to
> reliably
> sync to an external clock.
>
> Regards,
>
> Deej
>
>
>
> "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:443f022f$1@linux...
>>
>> You'll probably read this and say "he's just not gettn' it" Buuuut....
> Here's
>> the wire scheme and hopfully explain. My master word clock has four BNC
> outs.
>> One cable going to #one MEC's input, Two cable going to #2 MEC's input
> Three
>> cable going to the digital console, and Four cable going to the eight ch.
>> mic pre. Sooo with both ins on the MECs being taken up, I can't really
>> run
>> a jumper from the out of MEC #1 to the in of MEC #3, because the in on
>> MEC
>> #3 is already taken up by the master word clock. I don't want to daisy
> chain
>> the MECs. It defeats the whole reason for having 4 ports on a master
> wordclock.
>> But thanks for the thought.
>>
>> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >What I was refering to was feeding the WC from the external generator
>> >to your master MEC, then connecting a short BNC cable from the master
>> >MEC to the slave MEC (assuming both MEC's are connected to EDS cards
>> >in ONE computer). The two MEC's will clock quite happily this way,
>> >and will be more stable (by my experience) than feeding them both
>> >directly from the WC gen. If you had 3+ MEC's, you would have to
>> >connect WC directly to each unit and place the "Use house sync" line
>> >into the Paris config file.
>> >
>> >David.
>> >
>> >Steve Cox wrote:
>> >> You can't. There is only one in and one out on each MEC. I need to
>> >> have
>> both
>> >> ins tied up with the master word clock or I will have pops n' snaps
> galore.
>> >> People hate hearing that in their headphones, and I really don't care
>> to
>> >> spend the time snipping them out. With all the digital equipment, they
>> all
>> >> have to be controled by one clock source. What you are suggesting
>> >> would
>> be
>> >> fine if I was ITB, but I am not. I have a motorized fader Digital
> console,
>> >> Eight ch. mic pres, and two MECs. The whole idea behind having a
>> >> master
>> word
>> >> clock is to stablize all your gear to 44.1 coming from one source.(my
>> choice)Right??
>> >> Steve not the art guy
>> >>
>> >> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the other.
>> >>>
>> >>>David.
>> >>>
>> >>>Steve Cox wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7 Digital
>> >>
>> >> 32 channel
>> >>
>> >>>>board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
>> >>>>Steve
>> >>>>
>> >>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...?
> ...isn't
>> >>>>>that OK?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>...or am I missing something?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from what
>> I've
>> >>>>>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda
>> >>>>>thought
>> >>
>> >> I
>> >>
>> >>>>had
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>the idea. ;o)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Cheers,
>> >>>>>Kim.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>David.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Kim wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>Kim.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2 mecs
>> together
>> >>>>>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock
> sends,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>have
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader
> digital
>> >>>>
>> >>>>console
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>David.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default
>> >>>>>>>>>>>master) and as Tom mentioned, one MEC connected to the *last
>> >>>>>>>>>>>EDS card*
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to "whichever
>> card
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>has
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>the
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with
> their
>> >>
>> >> physical
>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given machine
>> with
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>a
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>given
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to experiment
>> to
>> >>>>
>> >>>>work
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>it
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>out.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your
>> >>>>>>>>>>case,
>> >>
>> >> as
>> >>
>> >>>>>decided
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>by the Paris software.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>> >>>>>>>>>>Kim.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Recording 32 Tracks simultaneously [message #66795 is a reply to message #66794] |
Sat, 15 April 2006 12:28 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Senior Member |
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I've always just enetered it at the bottom, below the rest of the text.
Never had a problem with that.
Maybe I should play around with this some more.......and maybe if I type in
AutomaticPluginDelayCompensation=1, I can get this to work too?
;o)
"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:44414699@linux...
> Deej, have you noticed if it makes any difference *where* in the file you
> put the house sync text? I'm wondering if that has any effect upon the
load
> order/stability of initializing Paris, or if you've played with that as an
> option?
>
> AA
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:44413bc5@linux...
> > Steve,
> >
> > If you are using 3 x MECs, then this is how to get you system to work.
> > follow these steps exactly:
> >
> > Use good quality BNC cables to run from your AArdsync to the MECs. the
> > shorter, the better.
> >
> > Terminate the BNC outputs of each MEC with 75ohm terminator caps.
> >
> > Now go to C://Program Files/EMU/Paris and add the following line to the
> > Paris .cfg file:
> >
> > UseHouseSync=1
> >
> > Save the .cfg file and reboot your machine.
> >
> > Now, start your WC module, set it to 44.1kHz, then power up the MECs,
then
> > go to C://Program Files/EMU/Paris and boot Paris from the Paris.exe
file.
> >
> > When Paris opens, set the sync source of the project to Word Clock and
set
> > the project sample rate to 48kHz (it is extremely important that you use
> > 48kHz-Paris won't properly lock to external WC without this)
> >
> > Now save the project to C://Program Files/EMU/Paris under the name
> > "default
> > project" (no quotes). Now also save this default project to you desktop
> > (do
> > not just use it as a shortcut-the one in the C://Program Files/EMU/Paris
> > is
> > a backup in case the one on your desktop gets corrupted).
> >
> > Now close Paris and reboot your machine. You can now launch Paris from
the
> > default project on your desktop and it should sync reliably. don't worry
> > about this being set to 48kHz. Just open one of your existing projects
> > that
> > is 44.1kHz and you should be good to go.
> >
> > I've been doing this for a long time. I've got 3 x MEC, 3 x RME HDSP
cards
> > (96 x lightpipe I/O plus 6 x spdif I/O), a Lexicon PC90, a POD Pro, a
> > Quantec Yardstick and a TC Electonics D2 all receiving sync from a Mytek
> > WC
> > distributed through two Lucid WC distro boxes and routed in and out of
> > digital patchbays. None of this worked reliably until I set my Paris
> > default
> > project to 48kHz. Now Paris and all this other stuff locks up just fine
> > but
> > you these hoops are necessary to jump through if you want Paris to
> > reliably
> > sync to an external clock.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Deej
> >
> >
> >
> > "Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:443f022f$1@linux...
> >>
> >> You'll probably read this and say "he's just not gettn' it" Buuuut....
> > Here's
> >> the wire scheme and hopfully explain. My master word clock has four BNC
> > outs.
> >> One cable going to #one MEC's input, Two cable going to #2 MEC's input
> > Three
> >> cable going to the digital console, and Four cable going to the eight
ch.
> >> mic pre. Sooo with both ins on the MECs being taken up, I can't really
> >> run
> >> a jumper from the out of MEC #1 to the in of MEC #3, because the in on
> >> MEC
> >> #3 is already taken up by the master word clock. I don't want to daisy
> > chain
> >> the MECs. It defeats the whole reason for having 4 ports on a master
> > wordclock.
> >> But thanks for the thought.
> >>
> >> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> >What I was refering to was feeding the WC from the external generator
> >> >to your master MEC, then connecting a short BNC cable from the master
> >> >MEC to the slave MEC (assuming both MEC's are connected to EDS cards
> >> >in ONE computer). The two MEC's will clock quite happily this way,
> >> >and will be more stable (by my experience) than feeding them both
> >> >directly from the WC gen. If you had 3+ MEC's, you would have to
> >> >connect WC directly to each unit and place the "Use house sync" line
> >> >into the Paris config file.
> >> >
> >> >David.
> >> >
> >> >Steve Cox wrote:
> >> >> You can't. There is only one in and one out on each MEC. I need to
> >> >> have
> >> both
> >> >> ins tied up with the master word clock or I will have pops n' snaps
> > galore.
> >> >> People hate hearing that in their headphones, and I really don't
care
> >> to
> >> >> spend the time snipping them out. With all the digital equipment,
they
> >> all
> >> >> have to be controled by one clock source. What you are suggesting
> >> >> would
> >> be
> >> >> fine if I was ITB, but I am not. I have a motorized fader Digital
> > console,
> >> >> Eight ch. mic pres, and two MECs. The whole idea behind having a
> >> >> master
> >> word
> >> >> clock is to stablize all your gear to 44.1 coming from one
source.(my
> >> choice)Right??
> >> >> Steve not the art guy
> >> >>
> >> >> EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Seriously Steve... try looping from one MEC to the other.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>David.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Steve Cox wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>The reason I have the master word clock is because of the DA7
Digital
> >> >>
> >> >> 32 channel
> >> >>
> >> >>>>board, an 8 ch. mic pre, and 2 MECs. All locked in at 44.1
> >> >>>>Steve
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>huh??? have another beer mate! ;-)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Well I'm assuming he's running the wordclock to both MEC's...?
> > ...isn't
> >> >>>>>that OK?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>...or am I missing something?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>...I mean I've never used Wordclock, so I'm only speaking from
what
> >> I've
> >> >>>>>read here, but after reading 500 posts on the subject I kinda
> >> >>>>>thought
> >> >>
> >> >> I
> >> >>
> >> >>>>had
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>the idea. ;o)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Cheers,
> >> >>>>>Kim.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>David.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Kim wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>Correct. If you're losing wordclock that will be fine.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>Cheers,
> >> >>>>>>>Kim.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>"Steve Cox" <stevec1@charter.net> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>Not sure if it matters, but I don't really need to bnc the 2
mecs
> >> together
> >> >>>>>>>>do I? as I use a master word clock. The Aardsync. 4 word clock
> > sends,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>have
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>everything set to 44.1 And I use a Ramsa DA7 motorized fader
> > digital
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>console
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>for input, also set for 44.1
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>Don't do as I say, do as I think! ;-)
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>David.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>Kim wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>one connected to Card A (default
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>master) and as Tom mentioned, one MEC connected to the *last
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>EDS card*
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>You should also note that "last EDS card" refers to
"whichever
> >> card
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>has
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>the
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>last designation". It does not refer to anything to do with
> > their
> >> >>
> >> >> physical
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>location in your machine. Which one is last in a given
machine
> >> with
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>a
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>given
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>OS is almost impossible to predict. You will have to
experiment
> >> to
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>work
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>it
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>out.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>But the interfaces need to be on card A and card C in your
> >> >>>>>>>>>>case,
> >> >>
> >> >> as
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>decided
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>by the Paris software.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
> >> >>>>>>>>>>Kim.
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
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