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| Re: countdown until... [message #57629 is a reply to message #57625] |
Fri, 02 September 2005 22:27   |
wmarkwilson
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;> part of the puzzle of the world's stage.
>>
>> Whether you believe in God or not, He does lead people today, and He does
>> put events into motion for His purposes. Perhaps Iraq had nothing to do
>> with future defense or terrorism concerns, but simply the ability of a
>> people to have a chance at true freedom.
>>
>>> "I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I
>>> sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I
>>> know
>>> it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it."
>>
>> This is a basic faith concept for Christians. Running for President isn't
>> common, but many of us, if not most or all, follow this very same leading
>> every day - often into very risky and unknown territory, knowing the risk
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| Re: countdown until... [message #57648 is a reply to message #57646] |
Sat, 03 September 2005 07:26 |
Jamie K
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Blows your theory that the war in
> Iraq
> was Bush's fault right out of the water.
>
>
> "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
> news:431946eb@linux...
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:43192fdf$1@linux...
>> > That's what is so disturbing about the left.
>>
>> OK, you just wasted your first sentence.
>>
>> > This war started in 1991 with
>> > Sadaam's invasion of Kuwait. There was nothing fake about it. Just
> because
>> > Clinton and the UN didnt choose to call Sadaam on his violations of UN
>> > sanctions didn't mean that somehow they weren't valid. They war never
>> > stopped. Some folks just found it convenient to forget about it.
>>
>> what a crock of shite Deej. Bush 1 left a huge mess for Clinton to
>> pick
>> up, who never solved it just sat on it for years. Bush 2 comes in and
> all
>> of a sudden Saddam is a threat to the US again? Please. This war was
>> specifically designed to get Bush reelected by having an active war
>> during
>> the elections. The repercussions are ENDLESS.
>>
>>
>
>Kanye dosen't seem like he's joking.
"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79
>
>Hi Jamie,
"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:43192fc8@linux...
>
> I dunno Deej. If we (right, left, up or down) truly acknowledged that
> the war (Iraq? Afghanistan? Terrorism? whatever you're discussing) is as
> serious as WWII, we would be sacrificing at home as in WWII. We aren't.
> Not on that scale.
I agree. that's why I think this war is being mishandled. First thing we
should have done was seal the Iraqi borders. That would have taken a huge
effort and required sacrifice..........but this thing might be pretty much
over by now if we had done that.
We are, however, running up a huge credit account so
> our kids can make the sacrifices we are avoiding.
Agreed.
>
> If we recognized that we can't win a war in a half assed effort, we
> would have paid more attention to the
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| Re: countdown until... [message #57655 is a reply to message #57648] |
Sat, 03 September 2005 07:54 |
DT
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ain? Please. This war
was
> >> specifically designed to get Bush reelected by having an active war
> >> during
> >> the elections. The repercussions are ENDLESS.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>That's hilarious.
Jimmy
"Chris Latham" <latham_c@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:43199c8c@linux...
> I have a couple of good friends who are on different sides of the fence
> politically, socially, religiously, etc., yet they love working together.
> The conservative one drives a Ford Expedition, which they have
collectively
> nicknamed, "The Republican." I'm pretty sure it's getting pretty close to
> that GPM designation.
>
> CL
>
> "W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:43193455$1@linux...
> > Already done it. $113. I drive a great big ozone killing gas loving
> > big-ass truck. Goes through gas like there's no tomorrow... in fact, me
> and
> > my ol' truck and GW are working on makin' sure there ain't no tomorrow.
> > Presently, I don't get MPG - I get GPM... the lower the better I aalways
> > say. Sometimes I just fire it up and let it run just to see if I can
> > hogcall up one of them there K5's or F7. Had my gas cap autographed
this
> > week by GW, several big TX oil tycoons - hope to get a few more on the
> left
> > front fender and right on the tank...
> >
> > Anybody got a light?
> > Dubya
> >
> >
> > "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote in message
> > news:43193141@linux...
> > > it costs $100 to fill the tank.
> > >
> > > how long?
> > >
> >
> >
>
>"DJ" <
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| Re: countdown until... [message #57658 is a reply to message #57646] |
Sat, 03 September 2005 08:14 |
uptown jimmy
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isaster. He drools over it.
>>>>>>> Policy
>>>>>>> aside (I actually agree with about 80% of it), this guy IS a moron."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your last three statements here were not just "I think", but stated as
>>>>>> fact.
>>>>>> But enough statement analysis... Suffice it to say, if there is a
>>>>>> chance
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> opinions of others could be wrong, they are better left unsaid. We
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> it though. It is a hard temptation to resist, especially when we feel
>>>>>> personal frustration. I do it too, sadly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You also seem to have a rather negative impression of Christians. A
>>>>>> faith
>>>>>> not practiced in daily life isn't faith, but a set of beliefs adopted
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> hobby. You state religion is a crutch, but that is a sweeping
>>>>>> generalization. For some that may be true, but let's be clear about
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> distinction between religions as organizations and faith as a belief
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> God. Religion is a perspective on a belief systems adopted by people.
>>>>>> Faith is rooted in the very heart and soul, not the head or intellect.
>>>>>> Faith is a two way street - without God to guide me, my faith would be
>>>>>> useless. At the same time, if I didn't believe God would guide me, it
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> also be meaningless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Faith requires action, or it is just lip service ("Faith w
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| Re: countdown until... [message #57660 is a reply to message #57629] |
Sat, 03 September 2005 08:17 |
justcron
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od, based on God's own word (the Bible and prayer).
>>>>>> Other
>>>>>> religions may claim the same communicative guidance, but my faith as a
>>>>>> Christian would be meaningless if I believed all religions were
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> form
>>>>>> of the truth, or if mine were just my personal interpretation, open
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> variation, moderation and alteration at the whim of peers, society, a
>>>>>> religious organization, or those that disagree with me. If there is
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> absolute truth, there is no absolute wrong. Simple logic tells us
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> to be some abso
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| Re: countdown until... [message #57695 is a reply to message #57694] |
Sat, 03 September 2005 21:49 |
Deej [1]
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more funding for the Southeast Louisiana
Flood Control Project would allow the Corps to more quickly pump out the
floodwaters inundating New Orleans.
"Had we had the SELA project finished ... we could more efficiently move the
water out of the system because it's a big drainage project," Strock said.
Other presidents also have taken aim at the Corps' budget. President
Carters' first veto came against a big water projects bill passed by a
Democratic-dominated Congress. And President Clinton squeezed the Corps
budget as well. Doing so frees money for other White House priorities.
"I fought every ... administration when they tried to use the Corps of
Engineers as a piggy bank to pay for other projects," said former House
Appropriations Committee Chairman Bob Livingston, a Louisiana Republican who
represented the New Orleans suburbs for more than 20 years. "I had major
battles with the Clinton administration."
"Going back to Carter. They've all sought to draw down the Corps of
Engineers and put it elsewhere," he said.
"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compounded> wrote in message
news:431af60d@linux...
> worst president ever
>
>
>
>Excellent. One of my cats is nice a fat. If things get bad....here kitty,
kitty....
Jimmy
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:431a7af0$1@linux...
> >maybe a chihuahua...
>
> You know, of course, that these dogs were bred, by the Aztecs, to be
> portable snack food..........right?
>
> ;o)
>
> "uptown jimmy" <
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| Re: countdown until... [message #57697 is a reply to message #57688] |
Sun, 04 September 2005 02:49 |
rick
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t; > >
> > >
> > > Both (cars) are paid for, and have been for years.
> > >
> > > Next for me will be hybrids. No doubt about it at all. I may buy an
old
> > > pickup truck to park next to the horse trailer to use occasionally for
> > short
> > > hauls of horses and hay. That all the action it's going to see.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>I bet they're tender, like rabbit.
Jimmy
"W. Mark Wilson" <wmarkwilson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:431a7b9f$1@linux...
> Better-than-portable, self-ambulating food.
> Dubya
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:431a7af0$1@linux...
> > >maybe a chihuahua...
> >
> > You know, of course, that these dogs were bred, by the Aztecs, to be
> > portable snack food..........right?
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> > "uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:431a7438@linux...
> >> Amen, brother.
> >>
> >> My situation, and my plan, exactly.
> >>
> >> Not the horses (fuck that), bit everything else....maybe a
chihuahua...it
> >> won't eat the cats....
> >>
> >> Jimmy
> >>
> >>
> >> "DJ" <Report message to a moderator
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| Re: countdown until... [message #57701 is a reply to message #57697] |
Sun, 04 September 2005 07:44 |
Deej [1]
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/>
for
> >> short
> >> > hauls of horses and hay. That all the action it's going to see.
>
>What's happening with hydrogen fuel cells? I've searched for some, and know
a couple of manufacturers have successfully tested them. Outside of
distribution limitations, is it on the horizon?
Hybrids seem to be a stop-gap solution to me, not longterm, but I'm up for
anything that doesn't use gas at this point.
DT
On 9/4/05 3:49 AM, in article rhglh1h2iomoo2b4i1g1h686epktg49i6k@4ax.com,
"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
> same here if you pay at the pump with the shut off thing. i agree
> that hybrids are the way to go but i feel they're taking the wrong
> approach. i'm no engineer but i think they should be built more along
> the line of a locomotive engine. in that the gas power plant provides
> the electricity; a smaller generator and a larger ele. motor
>
> On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 18:09:42 -0600, "DJ"
> <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>
>> In this area, if you prepay with a credit card, the pump shuts off at $50.00
>> and you have to reauthorize the card to keep going. I've got a Honda
>> Passport with a 21 gallon tank. I can get about 400 miles (highway) out of
>> it.. I've also got an Accord with a (I think) 12 gallon tank that I can get
>> almost 400 miles out of on the highway.
>>
>> Both are paid for and have been for years.
>>
>> Next for me will be hybrids. No doubt about it at all. I may buy an old
>> pickup truck to park next to the horse trailer to use occasionally for short
>> hauls of horses and hay. That all the action it's going to see.
>>
>>
>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:sntih154b667rqlqtlbadim0dlqs98p90b@4ax.com...
>>> for my 14 gal tank when it hits 7 bucks. but, they just dropped it
>>> .40 a gallon here yesterday so i don't know.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 01:14:35 -0400, "justcron"
>>> <justcron@hydrorecords.compound> wrote:
>>>
>>>> it costs $100 to fill the tank.
>>>>
>>>> how long?
>>>>
>>>
>>
>I would like to hear him address the issue of over 250 buses that weren't
put in to use for an evacuation that he ordered two days before the storm
hit. I doubt he will voluntarily bring that up.
"justcron" <justcron@hydroreco
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| Re: countdown until... [message #57763 is a reply to message #57701] |
Sun, 04 September 2005 14:10 |
rick
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>about Bush than I care about the great, big-hearted black people
>who have now become invisible as these shitheads excuse the thugs.
>
>You can't praise the heroes without acknowledging that black
>people have the ability to choose love and righteousness in a
>time of evil, so heroes are ignored so the race-hustlers can take
>another dump on the president.
>
>Shame on you.
>
>If Clinton was in power, hell if Giuliani was in power, we certainly
>would have had a more inspiring leader, and that is important,
>but things would still be about where they are right now.
>
>The hate of you guys. The pure hate you are showing. Man, you
>should be ashamed of yourselves.
>
>Find a good charity, give of yourselves. Make a difference.
>
>
>DC"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compounded> wrote:
>"mike claytor" <claytor@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:431b5de5$1@linux...
>> ....and I take personal offense at you calling my buddy Doug an asshole.
>> Namecalling is the last resort of the chickenshit, so take it somewhere
>> else
>> or do it to someone's face instead of shooting off your mouth on a forum.
>> I guarantee you'll have quite a different experience.
>
>everyone has a fair chance to discuss their perspective.
>
>your buddy Doug just got stuck with this foot in his mouth blindly defending
>Mr. W. orst president ever..
>
>I dont think DJ needs your fugly ass riding for him... LOL
>
>Anyway, whats your take on the situation and the fed response? You gonna
be
>another Bush apologist that wants to eat their words?
Any relief program under any president would be overwhelmed by this. (and
BTW, I can't stand Bush)
New Orleans is a geographical and logistical nightmare in any scenario. Three
main highways access it, two are down.
Large population of poor folks, most of who happen to be black, making it
all too easy for commentators to play the race card.
Lots of addicts who did't leave and decided to play "Escape From New York."
Hell, where's Snake Pliskin when we need him?
Anyway, none of this is constructive....
....as far as bein' "fugly," as Dabney Coleman says in Modern Problems, "I'm
a damn good lookin' man!" and I have probably gotten laid in New Orleans
more than you have.
nanner nanner nanner!
;0)I would appreciate it dude if you could not use profanity to insult NG participants,
especially in the subject line. I can undestand getting worked up and all,
and I think it's good to be passionate about your views, but I think we need
to show some respect and keep things civil.
Where possible I'd also prefer we kept political stuff on the General group.
I understand topics can drift though...
Cheers,
Kim.
"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compounded> wrote:
>[FEMA], run by Brown since 2003, is now at the center of a growing fury
over
>the handling of the New Orleans disaster. ``I look at FEMA and I shake my
>head,'' said a furious [Republican] Gov. Mitt Romney yesterday, calling
the
>response ``an embarrassment.''
>*****************
>
>Newt Gingrich, the former House Speaker, is among those who have asked
>whether Bush's Department of Homeland Security is up to the job. 'If we
>can't respond faster than this,
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| Re: countdown until... [message #57764 is a reply to message #57705] |
Sun, 04 September 2005 14:13 |
rick
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then why do we think we're prepared to
>respond to a nuclear or biological attack?' he pointedly asked.
>*****************
>
>I totally agree with how crappy our current president is, he *could not* be
MORE uninspiring, or appear MORE self-serving - however..... doooood - gotta
not call someone an asshole here on their political bias. Not here.
ask not what your country can do for you....
-Carl
"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compounded> wrote in message
news:431b5154$1@linux...
> [FEMA], run by Brown since 2003, is now at the center of a growing fury
over
> the handling of the New Orleans disaster. ``I look at FEMA and I shake my
> head,'' said a furious [Republican] Gov. Mitt Romney yesterday, calling
the
> response ``an embarrassment.''
> *****************
>
> Newt Gingrich, the former House Speaker, is among those who have asked
> whether Bush's Department of Homeland Security is up to the job. 'If we
> can't respond faster than this, then why do we think we're prepared to
> respond to a nuclear or biological attack?' he pointedly asked.
> *****************
>
>Okay, enough. There were some half decent discussion early on, but it's
gone way beyond that.
Calling forum participants names, calling anyone a racist, and profanity are
completely useless. I really don't care how much you hate any given
president, some of the stuff that has been posted here is just slanderous
mudslinging. IMHO, that removes any credibility you have in an otherwise
respectful debate. If you have to slam people and align yourself with an
rather poorly outspoken, ill-informed grandstanding rapper to make your
point, you are probably better off keeping your opinions to yourself. None
of this serves any constructive purpose.
Respect others, or no one will want to respect you.
Regards,
DedricNo, you replied with hate. Go back, reread your posts.
AA
"justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compounded> wrote in message
news:431b60e7$1@linux...
> not really.... I reply with truth to ignorance....
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:431b5c53$1@linux...
>> Amidst this horrible human loss and destruction you bring to the table
>> more suffering, anger and destruction of personal relationships man.
>> Think about it, brother.
>> AA
>>
>>
>>
>> "justcron" <justcron@hydrorecords.compounded> wrote in message
>> news:431b3644@linux...
>>> deej is coppin out....
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-aho
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