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Mac is the the BOMB!!!!!??? [message #83954]

Wed, 02 May 2007 08:33

brandon[2]

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Ok a friend of mine is telling me he tried Mac for the first time since =
the 80's.
He tried a 2gig 512mb G5 powerbook and it was totally solid.
He says it was so incredibly solid that they had tons of media playing
and internet running etc.. and not one glitch. No lag nothing.
What is the consensus on Macs for audio apps now?
Would Cubase run lightspeed under Mac opposed to PC?

Brandon
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Re: Mac is the the BOMB!!!!!??? [message #83955 is a reply to message #83954]

Wed, 02 May 2007 09:06

Jamie K

Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

There's no G5 powerbook. I don't think any of the current Macbook Pros
come with less than 1GB RAM.

The current Intel core 2 duo Macbook Pros are very fast and work great
for audio.

The next version may come out this month with the new support chipset
which should allow access to more than 3GB RAM.

The Macbook (non "pro") is about as fast in everything but graphics. A
little less screen space and no expansion slot, but it should also be
very good for audio.

Can't answer the cubase question, I use Logic Pro.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com

Brandon wrote:
> Ok a friend of mine is telling me he tried Mac for the first time since
> the 80's.
> He tried a 2gig 512mb G5 powerbook and it was totally solid.
> He says it was so incredibly solid that they had tons of media playing
> and internet running etc.. and not one glitch. No lag nothing.
> What is the consensus on Macs for audio apps now?
> Would Cubase run lightspeed under Mac opposed to PC?
>
> Brandon

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Re: Mac is the the BOMB!!!!!??? [message #83957 is a reply to message #83954]

Wed, 02 May 2007 09:12

Aaron Allen

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Consensus is that Mac _is_ a PC now. Only real difference is Mac OSx or =
Windows XP/Vista (which includes roll your own boxes) .... or Linux if =
you are so inclined. Is that the question you're asking, which OS =
basically? If so.. Win platform PC is cheaper on the overall and has =
more options. With options come brand a/brand b (hard and software) =
conflicts. Choose wisely and you'll have trouble free operation on =
either side of that coin IMO. If you go Mac hardware, you can run both =
operating systems.

AA

"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:4638b02b@linux...
Ok a friend of mine is telling me he tried Mac for the first time =
since the 80's.
He tried a 2gig 512mb G5 powerbook and it was totally solid.
He says it was so incredibly solid that they had tons of media playing
and internet running etc.. and not one glitch. No lag nothing.
What is the consensus on Macs for audio apps now?
Would Cubase run lightspeed under Mac opposed to PC?

Brandon
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Ok a friend of mine is telling me he tried Mac =
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totally=20
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No lag=20
nothing.</FONT></DIV>
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now?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Would Cubase run lightspeed under Mac opposed =
to=20
PC?</FONT></DIV>
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Re: Mac is the the BOMB!!!!!??? [message #83959 is a reply to message #83954]

Wed, 02 May 2007 10:13

Chris Ludwig

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Registered: May 2006

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Hi Brandon,
If it is a Mac Book pro then it will run Cubase about the same as a
equivalent PC. You would not be using 512 megs of ram on any computer
using Xp or OSX. 1gig is the normal for any laptop now. If the guy is
really talking about a g4 laptop then no it will not anything faster
than a current PC or Mac Book pro laptop.

Chris

Brandon wrote:
> Ok a friend of mine is telling me he tried Mac for the first time since
> the 80's.
> He tried a 2gig 512mb G5 powerbook and it was totally solid.
> He says it was so incredibly solid that they had tons of media playing
> and internet running etc.. and not one glitch. No lag nothing.
> What is the consensus on Macs for audio apps now?
> Would Cubase run lightspeed under Mac opposed to PC?
>
> Brandon

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Re: Mac is the the BOMB!!!!!??? [message #83966 is a reply to message #83954]

Wed, 02 May 2007 14:09

xpam_mark

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Hmmmm, sounds like either of my old Athlon 950's with a half gig of ram; =
PARIS tracking 44 16bit files from one machine to the other as a target =
drive across my home network while playing back 24 from the target, =
running 16 tracks of Acid, 2 tracks in Cool Edit, a stereo file under a =
wmv on win media Player, 4 tracks in Samplitude 6.04 with plugs running =
in PARIS and Samplitude... this was ME in 2002 and all drives were =
forced down from Mode 6 to Mode 3. I didn't weigh the media so I don't =
know if it was tons or not.

W. Mark Wilson

"Brandon" <a@a.com> wrote in message news:4638b02b@linux...
Ok a friend of mine is telling me he tried Mac for the first time =
since the 80's.
He tried a 2gig 512mb G5 powerbook and it was totally solid.
He says it was so incredibly solid that they had tons of media playing
and internet running etc.. and not one glitch. No lag nothing.
What is the consensus on Macs for audio apps now?
Would Cubase run lightspeed under Mac opposed to PC?

Brandon
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other as=20
a target drive across my home network while playing back 24 from =
the=20
target, running 16 tracks of Acid, 2 tracks in Cool Edit, a stereo file =
under a=20
wmv on win media Player, 4 tracks in Samplitude 6.04 with plugs running =
in PARIS=20
and Samplitude... this was ME in 2002 and all drives were forced down =
from Mode=20
6 to Mode 3.  I didn't weigh the media so I don't know if it =
was tons=20
or not.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>W. Mark Wilson</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Ok a friend of mine is telling me he tried Mac =
for the=20
first time since the 80's.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>He tried a 2gig 512mb G5 powerbook and it was =
totally=20
solid.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>He says it was so incredibly solid that they =
had tons of=20
media playing</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>and internet running etc.. and not one glitch. =
No lag=20
nothing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>What is the consensus on Macs for audio apps=20
now?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Would Cubase run lightspeed under Mac opposed =
to=20
PC?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV><FONT face=3DArial>
<DIV>Brandon</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Re: Mac is the the BOMB!!!!!??? [message #83967 is a reply to message #83966]

Wed, 02 May 2007 14:36

Jamie K

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That's gotta be the biggest laptop in the world, Mark. ;^)

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com

W. Mark Wilson wrote:
> Hmmmm, sounds like either of my old Athlon 950's with a half gig of ram;
> PARIS tracking 44 16bit files from one machine to the other as a target
> drive across my home network while playing back 24 from the target,
> running 16 tracks of Acid, 2 tracks in Cool Edit, a stereo file under a
> wmv on win media Player, 4 tracks in Samplitude 6.04 with plugs running
> in PARIS and Samplitude... this was ME in 2002 and all drives were
> forced down from Mode 6 to Mode 3. I didn't weigh the media so I don't
> know if it was tons or not.
>
> W. Mark Wilson
>
>
> "Brandon" <a@a.com <mailto:a@a.com>> wrote in message
> news:4638b02b@linux...
> Ok a friend of mine is telling me he tried Mac for the first time
> since the 80's.
> He tried a 2gig 512mb G5 powerbook and it was totally solid.
> He says it was so incredibly solid that they had tons of media playing
> and internet running etc.. and not one glitch. No lag nothing.
> What is the consensus on Macs for audio apps now?
> Would Cubase run lightspeed under Mac opposed to PC?
>
> Brandon

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Re: Mac is the the BOMB!!!!!??? [message #83982 is a reply to message #83967]

Wed, 02 May 2007 18:43

xpam_mark

Messages: 126
Registered: March 2007

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Yeah, it was one of those desktop style laptops.
;-)
WMW

"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:46390517$1@linux...
>
> That's gotta be the biggest laptop in the world, Mark. ;^)
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
> W. Mark Wilson wrote:
>> Hmmmm, sounds like either of my old Athlon 950's with a half gig of ram;
>> PARIS tracking 44 16bit files from one machine to the other as a target
>> drive across my home network while playing back 24 from the target,
>> running 16 tracks of Acid, 2 tracks in Cool Edit, a stereo file under a
>> wmv on win media Player, 4 tracks in Samplitude 6.04 with plugs running
>> in PARIS and Samplitude... this was ME in 2002 and all drives were forced
>> down from Mode 6 to Mode 3. I didn't weigh the media so I don't know if
>> it was tons or not.
>> W. Mark Wilson
>> "Brandon" <a@a.com <mailto:a@a.com>> wrote in message
>> news:4638b02b@linux...
>> Ok a friend of mine is telling me he tried Mac for the first time
>> since the 80's.
>> He tried a 2gig 512mb G5 powerbook and it was totally solid.
>> He says it was so incredibly solid that they had tons of media
>> playing
>> and internet running etc.. and not one glitch. No lag nothing.
>> What is the consensus on Macs for audio apps now?
>> Would Cubase run lightspeed under Mac opposed to PC?
>> Brandon

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Re: Mac is the the BOMB!!!!!??? [message #83983 is a reply to message #83955]

Wed, 02 May 2007 18:54

Deej [4]

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"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4638b7c7$1@linux...
> The Macbook (non "pro") is about as fast in everything but graphics. A
> little less screen space and no expansion slot, but it should also be very
> good for audio.

Jamie...the FW bus on the non-pro notebook just plain sucks wind. I would
never reccommend this for audio...ever.

Been there........believe me.

Deej

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Re: Mac is the the BOMB!!!!!??? [message #83987 is a reply to message #83983]

Wed, 02 May 2007 20:03

Jamie K

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DJ wrote:
> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4638b7c7$1@linux...
>> The Macbook (non "pro") is about as fast in everything but graphics. A
>> little less screen space and no expansion slot, but it should also be very
>> good for audio.
>
>
> Jamie...the FW bus on the non-pro notebook just plain sucks wind. I would
> never reccommend this for audio...ever.
>
> Been there........believe me.
>
> Deej

That's the first I've heard of any firewire problems on the Macbook.
What sucks about it? The firewire 400 specs seem to be the same on the
non-pro as on the pro.

My wife uses the previous low end 1GHZ G4 laptop for audio recording
with a firewire interface. Granted she's not stressing it, just doing
VO, but it works fine.

Is anyone here using an Intel Macbook for audio?

The main performance differentiation between the two current Macbook/Pro
lines seems to be the motherboard graphics on the non-pro vs. the faster
graphics cards with the pro (and the available screen res). The mb GPU
capabilities aren't sufficient for programs that really leverage the
GPU, like Apple's Motion and the upcoming Color. BTW, the new version of
Motion and the new Color look amazing, looking forward to working with
them along with the new Final Cut in a few weeks.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com

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Re: Mac is the the BOMB!!!!!??? [message #83989 is a reply to message #83983]

Wed, 02 May 2007 20:53

Ted Gerber

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Senior Member

I have never had any FW issues. I thought the issues you had with your friend's
box
were more of a driver/OS version conflict related to the 002...

At any rate, I know a whack of guys using MacBooks with FW problem free.

T

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>
>"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:4638b7c7$1@linux...
>> The Macbook (non "pro") is about as fast in everything but graphics. A

>> little less screen space and no expansion slot, but it should also be
very
>> good for audio.
>
>
>Jamie...the FW bus on the non-pro notebook just plain sucks wind. I would

>never reccommend this for audio...ever.
>
>Been there........believe me.
>
>Deej
>
>
>

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Re: Mac is the the BOMB!!!!!??? [message #83990 is a reply to message #83987]

Wed, 02 May 2007 22:01

Deej [4]

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Long story...we can talk about it when I get up there. Just talked to Aaron.
He's about 45 minutes out of Denver right now. I'll be showing up around
2:30-3:00.

Deej

"Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message news:46395196$1@linux...
> DJ wrote:
>> "Jamie K" <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote in message
>> news:4638b7c7$1@linux...
>>> The Macbook (non "pro") is about as fast in everything but graphics. A
>>> little less screen space and no expansion slot, but it should also be
>>> very good for audio.
>>
>>
>> Jamie...the FW bus on the non-pro notebook just plain sucks wind. I would
>> never reccommend this for audio...ever.
>>
>> Been there........believe me.
>>
>> Deej
>
> That's the first I've heard of any firewire problems on the Macbook.
> What sucks about it? The firewire 400 specs seem to be the same on the
> non-pro as on the pro.
>
> My wife uses the previous low end 1GHZ G4 laptop for audio recording with
> a firewire interface. Granted she's not stressing it, just doing VO, but
> it works fine.
>
> Is anyone here using an Intel Macbook for audio?
>
> The main performance differentiation between the two current Macbook/Pro
> lines seems to be the motherboard graphics on the non-pro vs. the faster
> graphics cards with the pro (and the available screen res). The mb GPU
> capabilities aren't sufficient for programs that really leverage the GPU,
> like Apple's Motion and the upcoming Color. BTW, the new version of Motion
> and the new Color look amazing, looking forward to working with them along
> with the new Final Cut in a few weeks.
>
> Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com

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