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Sun, 25 September 2005 04:47  |
Morgan
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good performance they decided utilizing the 2 micron ribbon just put the
performance over the top and went with it for this new amazing mic.
The All New SE R-1 completely smokes the Royer as well as all others and
here is the best part.
At half the price !!
The New SE has a list price of $ 749 and streets out @ $ 599
The special (St. Peter ) PARIS Pre-Launch group buy is $ 568.88
Included with this mic is a Planet waves Premium 20ft Mic Cable, Deluxe
Road case and shockmount.
We will be able to deliver these in the first week of October - Reserve
yours NOW !
As with all SE mics - there is a 7 day NO RISK full refund Guarantee !!
These Mics will Premier @ AES in a few weeks - My prediction is these
R-1's will be one of the Hottest
Items at the Show. You heard it here FIRST !
Morgan
Eastcoast Music Mall
800-901-2001
morganp@ntplx.netHi Ron
We do have 1 EDS card with and interface 442 and a IF2, all cables, manual
and original boxes. $275 with
shipping U.S.only, let me know if that works for you.
We take Visa and MasterCard.
Thanks
Lou
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Midwest Production Services
956 S. Bartlett Road, #280
Bartlett, IL 60103
847-844-9446
www.midwestproductions.com
info@midwestproductions.comso the price goesw down the more people purchase correct?
"Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:43368e13@linux...
> Greetings
>
> Siwei Zou ( Soo-Way ) the founder of SE Mics has been hard at work in the
> Lab. This time , its all about Ribbons.
>
> * Pictures are over on the PARIS Newsgroup - My apology they take a while
> to load.
>
> As many of you may be aware - Ribbon mics have a very different response
> than conventional condenser mics. As a result , Ribbons capture sounds in
> a very different way . Many engineers and producers use Ribbon mics on
> guitar amps, brass instruments , string overheads and a variety of
> situations where High Frequencies tend to be to brittle using conventional
> mics. Distorted guitar is one of the best examples. Quite often one tends
> to EQ the heck out of the track causing untold Phase damage rendering it
> unable to sit well in any mix. Using a Ribbon is perfect in this situation
> , the mic captures the sound naturally -
> thus allowing the guitar to sit perfectly well in the mix without any
> nastiness or brittle high end trash that one usually expects.
>
> A brief overview of Ribbons - RCA was known for developing some of the
> most popular Ribbon Mics the RCA 77DX and RCA 74B.
> The vintage ribbon mics are Dynamic and use a 6 micron membrane, and there
> are a number of low end mics that also use 6 micron. Developments in the
> last 10 years have allowed thinner diaphragms to be practical to produce
> and the newer more expensive ribbon mice have diaphragms ranging from 3
> microns to 1.8 (about the current limit). The thinner diaphragms offer
> better impedance matching and superior high frequency response.
> The inexpensive Ribbon mics often to have a higher impedance which this
> does tends to make them low in output , a significant drop off in High
> Frequency,a bit noisy and quite sensitive to cable
> length and load from a preamp. Finding an optimal combination can be a
> challenge.
>
> The most popular Ribbon mic presently has been the Royer 2.5 Micron
> membrane Model R-121.
> We have measured the impedance
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| Re: New SE Ribbon Mics - PARIS group buy [message #53230 is a reply to message #53228] |
Sun, 25 September 2005 14:07  |
Brandon
Messages: 49
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> impedance - 200 Ohms to be precise.
> I Have Wave files recorded of the 6 micron prototype and 2 micron final
> production model that I can email and or post.
>
> SE managed to completely knock the Ball out of the park with this. And in
> doing so , they have perfected the process
> of making Ribbon Membranes better than any competitor. More on this
> amazing new process to follow.
>
> They did not stop here , Even through they got the 6 micron to have very
> good performance they decided utilizing the 2 micron ribbon just put the
> performance over the top and went with it for this new amazing mic.
>
> The All New SE R-1 completely smokes the Royer as well as all others and
> here is the best part.
>
> At half the price !!
>
> The New SE has a list price of $ 749 and streets out @ $ 599
>
> The special (St. Peter ) PARIS Pre-Launch group buy is $ 568.88
>
> Included with this mic is a Planet waves Premium 20ft Mic Cable, Deluxe
> Road case and shockmount.
>
> We will be able to deliver these in the first week of October - Reserve
> yours NOW !
>
> As with all SE mics - there is a 7 day NO RISK full refund Guarantee !!
>
> These Mics will Premier @ AES in a few weeks - My prediction is these
> R-1's will be one of the Hottest
> Items at the Show. You heard it here FIRST !
>
> Morgan
> Eastcoast Music Mall
> 800-901-2001
> morganp@ntplx.net
>How do they compare to the Shiny Box mics?
Morgan <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote:
>Greetings
>
>Siwei Zou ( Soo-Way ) the founder of SE Mics has been hard at work in
>the Lab. This time , its all about Ribbons.
>
>* Pictures are over on the PARIS Newsgroup - My apology they take a
>while to load.
>
>As many of you may be aware - Ribbon mics have a very different response
>than conventional condenser mics. As a result , Ribbons capture sounds
>in a very different way . Many engineers and producers use Ribbon mics
>on guitar amps, brass instruments , string overheads and a variety of
>situations where High Frequencies tend to be to brittle using
>conventional mics. Distorted guitar is one of the best examples. Quite
>often one tends to EQ the heck out of the track causing untold Phase
>damage rendering it unable to sit well in any mix. Using a Ribbon is
>perfect in this situation , the mic captures the sound naturally -
>thus allowing the guitar to sit perfectly well in the mix without any
>nastiness or brittle high end trash that one usually expects.
>
>A brief overview of Ribbons - RCA was known for developing some of the
>most popular Ribbon Mics the RCA 77DX and RCA 74B.
>The vintage ribbon mics are Dynamic and use a 6 micron membrane, and
>there are a number of low end mics that also use 6 micron. Developments
>in the last 10 years have allowed thinner diaphragms to be practical to
>produce and the newer more expensive ribbon mice have diaphragms ranging
>from 3 microns to 1.8 (about the current limit). The thinner diaphragms
>offer better impedance matching and superior high frequency response.
>The inexpensive Ribbon mics often to have a higher impedance which this
>does tends to make them low in output , a significant drop off in High
>Frequency,a bit noisy and quite sensitive to cable
>length and load from a preamp. Finding an optimal combination can be a
>challenge.
>
>The most popular Ribbon mic presently has been the Royer 2.5 Micron
>membrane Model R-121.
>We have measured the impedance to be @ 470 ohms (as opposed to the
>published 300 Ohms)
>These mics sell for Approx $1200 each
>http://www.royerlabs.com/r_121.html
>
>SE has used Royer among many others as a benchmark. In doing so, They
>started out with a
>6 micron Membrane Dynamic with the Clear goal of doing everything
>Better than the rest.
>Better High Frequency response, Higher output, Lower noise and Lower
>impedance - 200 Ohms to be precise.
>I Have Wave files recorded of the 6 micron prototype and 2 micr
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| Re: New SE Ribbon Mics - PARIS group buy [message #53231 is a reply to message #53228] |
Sun, 25 September 2005 14:19 |
Cujjo
Messages: 325
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on final
>production model that I can email and or post.
>
>SE managed to completely knock the Ball out of the park with this. And
>in doing so , they have perfected the process
>of making Ribbon Membranes better than any competitor. More on this
>amazing new process to follow.
>
>They did not stop here , Even through they got the 6 micron to have very
>good performance they decided utilizing the 2 micron ribbon just put the
>performance over the top and went with it for this new amazing mic.
>
>The All New SE R-1 completely smokes the Royer as well as all others and
>here is the best part.
>
>At half the price !!
>
>The New SE has a list price of $ 749 and streets out @ $ 599
>
>The special (St. Peter ) PARIS Pre-Launch group buy is $ 568.88
>
>Included with this mic is a Planet waves Premium 20ft Mic Cable, Deluxe
>Road case and shockmount.
>
>We will be able to deliver these in the first week of October - Reserve
>yours NOW !
>
>As with all SE mics - there is a 7 day NO RISK full refund Guarantee !!
>
>These Mics will Premier @ AES in a few weeks - My prediction is these
>R-1's will be one of the Hottest
>Items at the Show. You heard it here FIRST !
>
>Morgan
>Eastcoast Music Mall
>800-901-2001
>morganp@ntplx.net
>I will have R121 royer vs R1 tracks I can send
or post Later on Monday .
The Shiny box mics are made by the same guys that
do nady,rode,blue, marshall etc...
Shang Hai Filo makes them all - I know the nady is 6 microns
and we had for comparisons , while its a ribbon - it really
is not close in performance at all to the royer or SE.
Morgan
cujo wrote:
> How do they compare to the Shiny Box mics?
>
>
> Morgan <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote:
>
>>Greetings
>>
>>Siwei Zou ( Soo-Way ) the founder of SE Mics has been hard at work in
>>the Lab. This time , its all about Ribbons.
>>
>>* Pictures are over on the PARIS Newsgroup - My apology they take a
>>while to load.
>>
>>As many of you may be aware - Ribbon mics have a very different response
>
>
>>than conventional condenser mics. As a result , Ribbons capture sounds
>>in a very different way . Many engineers and producers use Ribbon mics
>>on guitar amps, brass instruments , string overheads and a variety of
>>situations where High Frequencies tend to be to brittle using
>>conventional mics. Distorted guitar is one of the best examples. Quite
>>often one tends to EQ the heck out of the track causing untold Phase
>>damage rendering it unable to sit well in any mix. Using a Ribbon is
>>perfect in this situation , the mic captures the sound naturally -
>>thus allowing the guitar to sit perfectly well in the mix without any
>>nastiness or brittle high end trash that one usually expects.
>>
>>A brief overview of Ribbons - RCA was known for developing some of the
>
>
>>most popular Ribbon Mics the RCA 77DX and RCA 74B.
>>The vintage ribbon mics are Dynamic and use a 6 micron membrane, and
>>there are a number of low end mics that also use 6 micron. Developments
>
>
>>in the last 10 years have allowed thinner diaphragms to be practical to
>
>
>>produce and the newer more expensive ribbon mice have diaphragms ranging
>
>
>>from 3 microns to 1.8 (about the current limit). The thinner diaphragms
>
>
>>offer better impedance matching and superior high frequency response.
>>The inexpensive Ribbon mics often to have a higher impedance which this
>>does tends to make them low in output , a significant drop off in High
>>Frequency,a bit noisy and quite sensitive to cable
>>length and load from a preamp. Finding an optimal combination can be a
>>challenge.
>>
>>The most popular Ribbon mic presently has been the
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| Re: New SE Ribbon Mics - PARIS group buy [message #53232 is a reply to message #53231] |
Sun, 25 September 2005 14:44 |
Morgan
Messages: 133
Registered: August 2005
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Royer 2.5 Micron
>>membrane Model R-121.
>>We have measured the impedance to be @ 470 ohms (as opposed to the
>>published 300 Ohms)
>>These mics sell for Approx $1200 each
>>http://www.royerlabs.com/r_121.html
>>
>>SE has used Royer among many others as a benchmark. In doing so, They
>>started out with a
>>6 micron Membrane Dynamic with the Clear goal of doing everything
>>Better than the rest.
>>Better High Frequency response, Higher output, Lower noise and Lower
>>impedance - 200 Ohms to be precise.
>>I Have Wave files recorded of the 6 micron prototype and 2 micron final
>
>
>>production model that I can email and or post.
>>
>>SE managed to completely knock the Ball out of the park with this. And
>>in doing so , they have perfected the process
>>of making Ribbon Membranes better than any competitor. More on this
>>amazing new process to follow.
>>
>>They did not stop here , Even through they got the 6 micron to have very
>
>
>>good performance they decided utilizing the 2 micron ribbon just put the
>
>
>>performance over the top and went with it for this new amazing mic.
>>
>>The All New SE R-1 completely smokes the Royer as well as all others and
>
>
>>here is the best part.
>>
>>At half the price !!
>>
>>The New SE has a list price of $ 749 and streets out @ $ 599
>>
>>The special (St. Peter ) PARIS Pre-Launch group buy is $ 568.88
>>
>>Included with this mic is a Planet waves Premium 20ft Mic Cable, Deluxe
>
>
>>Road case and shockmount.
>>
>>We will be able to deliver these in the first week of October - Reserve
>
>
>>yours NOW !
>>
>>As with all SE mics - there is a 7 day NO RISK full refund Guarantee !!
>>
>>These Mics will Premier @ AES in a few weeks - My prediction is these
>>R-1's will be one of the Hottest
>>Items at the Show. You heard it here FIRST !
>>
>>Morgan
>>Eastcoast Music Mall
>>800-901-2001
>>morganp@ntplx.net
>>
>
>Hmmm - I think the answer is yes :)
If we come up with a big list, I know
we can work something out :)
Morgan
Brandon wrote:
> so the price goesw down the more people purchase correct?
>
>
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> "Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:43368e13@linux...
>
>>Greetings
>>
>>Siwei Zou ( Soo-Way ) the founder of SE Mics has been hard at work in the
>>Lab. This time , its all about Ribbons.
>>
>>* Pictures are over on the PARIS Newsgroup - My apology they take a while
>>to load.
>>
>>As many of you may be aware - Ribbon mics have a very different response
>>than conventional condenser mics. As a result , Ribbons capture sounds in
>>a very different way . Many engineers and producers use Ribbon mics on
>>guitar amps, brass instruments , string overheads and a variety of
>>situations where High Frequencies tend to be to brittle using conventional
>>mics. Distorted guitar is one of the best examples. Quite often one tends
>>to EQ the heck out of the track causing untold Phase damage rendering it
>>unable to sit well in any mix. Using a Ribbon is perfect in this situation
>>, the mic captures the sound naturally -
>>thus allowing the guitar to sit perfectly well in the mix without any
>>nastiness or brittle high end trash that one usually expects.
>>
>>A brief overview of Ribbons - RCA was known for developing some of the
>>most popular Ribbon Mics the RCA 77DX and RCA 74B.
>>The vintage ribbon mics are Dynamic and use a 6 micron membrane, and there
>>are a number of low end mics that also use 6 micron. Developments in the
>>last 10 years have allowed thinner diaphragms to be practical to produce
>>and the newer more expensive ribbon mice have diaphragms ranging from 3
>>microns to 1.8 (about the current limit). The thinner diaphragms offer
>>better impedance matching and superior high frequency response.
>>The inexpensive Ribbon mics often to have a higher impedance which this
>>does tends to make them low in output , a significant drop off in High
>>Frequency,a bit noisy and quite sensitive to cable
>>length and load from a preamp. Finding an optimal combination can be a
>>challenge.
>>
>>The most popular Ribbon mic presently has been the Royer 2.5 Micron
>>membrane Model R-121.
>>We have measured the impedance to be @ 470 ohms (as opposed to the
>>published 300 Ohms)
>>These mics sell for Approx $1200 each
>>Report message to a moderator
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| Re: New SE Ribbon Mics - PARIS group buy [message #53233 is a reply to message #53230] |
Sun, 25 September 2005 14:46 |
Morgan
Messages: 133
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_blank">http://www.royerlabs.com/r_121.html
>>
>>SE has used Royer among many others as a benchmark. In doing so, They
>>started out with a
>>6 micron Membrane Dynamic with the Clear goal of doing everything Better
>>than the rest.
>>Better High Frequency response, Higher output, Lower noise and Lower
>>impedance - 200 Ohms to be precise.
>>I Have Wave files recorded of the 6 micron prototype and 2 micron final
>>production model that I can email and or post.
>>
>>SE managed to completely knock the Ball out of the park with this. And in
>>doing so , they have perfected the process
>>of making Ribbon Membranes better than any competitor. More on this
>>amazing new process to follow.
>>
>>They did not stop here , Even through they got the 6 micron to have very
>>good performance they decided utilizing the 2 micron ribbon just put the
>>performance over the top and went with it for this new amazing mic.
>>
>>The All New SE R-1 completely smokes the Royer as well as all others and
>>here is the best part.
>>
>>At half the price !!
>>
>>The New SE has a list price of $ 749 and streets out @ $ 599
>>
>>The special (St. Peter ) PARIS Pre-Launch group buy is $ 568.88
>>
>>Included with this mic is a Planet waves Premium 20ft Mic Cable, Deluxe
>>Road case and shockmount.
>>
>>We will be able to deliver these in the first week of October - Reserve
>>yours NOW !
>>
>>As with all SE mics - there is a 7 day NO RISK full refund Guarantee !!
>>
>>These Mics will Premier @ AES in a few weeks - My prediction is these
>>R-1's will be one of the Hottest
>>Items at the Show. You heard it here FIRST !
>>
>>Morgan
>>Eastcoast Music Mall
>>800-901-2001
>>morganp@ntplx.net
>>
>
>
>I have heard some very nice things about both the Shiney Box and the Nady,
From some folks right here.
SO the SE is more like a royer than and RCA?
Will you have clips of vocals recorded through em?
I was planning on a ribbon in the next week or so.
Morgan <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote:
>
>I will have R121 royer vs R1 tracks I can send
>or post Later on Monday .
>
>The Shiny box mics are made by the same guys that
>do nady,rode,blue, marshall etc...
>
>Shang Hai Filo makes them all - I know the nady is 6 microns
>and we had for comparisons , while its a ribbon - it really
>is not close in performance at all to the royer or SE.
>
>Morgan
>
>
>
>
>cujo wrote:
>
>> How do they compare to the Shiny Box mics?
>>
>>
>> Morgan <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Greetings
>>>
>>>Siwei Zou ( Soo-Way ) the founder of SE Mics has been hard at work in
>>>the Lab. This time , its all about Ribbons.
>>>
>>>* Pictures are over on the PARIS Newsgroup - My apology they take a
>>>while to load.
>>>
>>>As many of you may be aware - Ribbon mics have a very different response
>>
>>
>>>than conventional condenser mics. As a result , Ribbons capture sounds
>>>in a very different way . Many engineers and producers use Ribbon mics
>>>on guitar amps, brass instruments , string overheads and a variety of
>>>situations where High Frequencies tend to be to brittle using
>>>conventional mics. Distorted guitar is one of the best examples. Quite
>>>often one tends to EQ the heck out of the track causing untold Phase
>>>damage rendering it unable to sit well in any mix. Using a Ribbon is
>>>perfect in this situation , the mic captures the sound naturally -
>>>thus allowing the guitar to sit perfectly well in the mix without any
>>>nastiness or brittle high end trash that one usually expects.
>>>
>>>A brief overview of Ribbons - RCA was known for developing some of the
>>
>>
>>>most popular Ribbon Mics the RCA 77DX and RCA 74B.
>>>The vintage ribbon mics are Dynamic and use a 6 micron membrane, and
>>>there are a number of low end mics that also use 6 micron. Developments
>>
>>
>>>in the last 10 years have allowed thinner diaphragms to be practical to
>>
>>
>>>produce and the newer more expensive ribbon mice hav
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| Re: New SE Ribbon Mics - PARIS group buy [message #53234 is a reply to message #53232] |
Sun, 25 September 2005 17:44 |
Cujjo
Messages: 325
Registered: June 2007
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Senior Member |
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e diaphragms ranging
>>
>>
>>>from 3 microns to 1.8 (about the current limit). The thinner diaphragms
>>
>>
>>>offer better impedance matching and superior high frequency response.
>>>The inexpensive Ribbon mics often to have a higher impedance which this
>>>does tends to make them low in output , a significant drop off in High
>>>Frequency,a bit noisy and quite sensitive to cable
>>>length and load from a preamp. Finding an optimal combination can be a
>>>challenge.
>>>
>>>The most popular Ribbon mic presently has been the Royer 2.5 Micron
>>>membrane Model R-121.
>>>We have measured the impedance to be @ 470 ohms (as opposed to the
>>>published 300 Ohms)
>>>These mics sell for Approx $1200 each
>>>http://www.royerlabs.com/r_121.html
>>>
>>>SE has used Royer among many others as a benchmark. In doing so, They
>>>started out with a
>>>6 micron Membrane Dynamic with the Clear goal of doing everything
>>>Better than the rest.
>>>Better High Frequency response, Higher output, Lower noise and Lower
>>>impedance - 200 Ohms to be precise.
>>>I Have Wave files recorded of the 6 micron prototype and 2 micron final
>>
>>
>>>production model that I can email and or post.
>>>
>>>SE managed to completely knock the Ball out of the park with this. And
>>>in doing so , they have perfected the process
>>>of making Ribbon Membranes better than any competitor. More on this
>>>amazing new process to follow.
>>>
>>>They did not stop here , Even through they got the 6 micron to have very
>>
>>
>>>good performance they decided utilizing the 2 micron ribbon just put the
>>
>>
>>>performance over the top and went with it for this new amazing mic.
>>>
>>>The All New SE R-1 completely smokes the Royer as well as all others and
>>
>>
>>>here is the best part.
>>>
>>>At half the price !!
>>>
>>>The New SE has a list price of $ 749 and streets out @ $ 599
>>>
>>>The special (St. Peter ) PARIS Pre-Launch group buy is $ 568.88
>>>
>>>Included with this mic is a Planet waves Premium 20ft Mic Cable, Deluxe
>>
>>
>>>Road case and shockmount.
>>>
>>>We will be able to deliver these in the first week of October - Reserve
>>
>>
>>>yours NOW !
>>>
>>>As with all SE mics - there is a 7 day NO RISK full refund Guarantee !!
>>>
>>>These Mics will Premier @ AES in a few weeks - My prediction is these
>>>R-1's will be one of the Hottest
>>>Items at the Show. You heard it here FIRST !
>>>
>>>Morgan
>>>Eastcoast Music Mall
>>>800-901-2001
>>>morganp@ntplx.net
>>>
>>
>>
>I'm interested in hearing a comparison and possibly getting one
(I have Beyer M160 and M500--luv them ribbon mics)
Dale
Morgan <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote:
>
>I will have R121 royer vs R1 tracks I can send
>or post Later on Monday .
>
>The Shiny box mics are made by the same guys that
>do nady,rode,blue, marshall etc...
>
>Shang Hai Filo makes them all - I know the nady is 6 microns
>and we had for comparisons , while its a ribbon - it really
>is not close in performance at all to the royer or SE.
>
>Morgan
>
>
>
>
>cujo wrote:
>
>> How do they compare to the Shiny Box mics?
>>
>>
>> Morgan <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Greetings
>>>
>>>Siwei Zou ( Soo-Way ) the founder of SE Mics has been hard at work in
>>>the Lab. This time , its all about Ribbons.
>>>
>>>* Pictures are over on the PARIS Newsgroup - My apology they take a
>>>while to load.
>>>
>>>As many of you may be aware - Ribbon mics have a very different response
>>
>>
>>>than conventional condenser mics. As a result , Ribbons capture sounds
>>>in a very different way . Many engineers and producers use Ribbon mics
>>>on guitar amps, brass instruments , string overheads and a variety of
>>>situations where High Frequencies tend to be to brittle using
>>>conventional mics. Distorted guitar is one of the best examples. Quite
>>>often one tends to EQ the heck out of the track causing untold Phase
>>>damage rendering it unable to sit well in any mix. Using a Ribbon is
>>>perfect in this situation , the mic captures the sound naturally -
>>>thus allowing the guitar to sit perfectly well in the mix without any
>>>nastiness or brittle high end trash that one usually expects.
>>>
>>>A brief overview of Ribbons - RCA was known for developing some of the
>>
>>
>>>most popular Ribbon Mics the RCA 77DX and RCA 74B.
>>>The vintage ribbon mics are Dynamic and use a 6 micron membrane, and
>>>there are a number of low end mics that also use 6 micron. Developments
>>
>>
>>>in the last 10 years have allowed thinner diaphragms to be practical to
>>
>>
>>>produce and the newer more expensive ribbon mice have diaphragms ranging
>>
>>
>>>from 3 microns to 1.8 (about the current limit). The
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| Re: New SE Ribbon Mics - PARIS group buy [message #53235 is a reply to message #53232] |
Mon, 26 September 2005 11:07 |
Dale
Messages: 77
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thinner diaphragms
>>
>>
>>>offer better impedance matching and superior high frequency response.
>>>The inexpensive Ribbon mics often to have a higher impedance which this
>>>does tends to make them low in output , a significant drop off in High
>>>Frequency,a bit noisy and quite sensitive to cable
>>>length and load from a preamp. Finding an optimal combination can be a
>>>challenge.
>>>
>>>The most popular Ribbon mic presently has been the Royer 2.5 Micron
>>>membrane Model R-121.
>>>We have measured the impedance to be @ 470 ohms (as opposed to the
>>>published 300 Ohms)
>>>These mics sell for Approx $1200 each
>>>http://www.royerlabs.com/r_121.html
>>>
>>>SE has used Royer among many others as a benchmark. In doing so, They
>>>started out with a
>>>6 micron Membrane Dynamic with the Clear goal of doing everything
>>>Better than the rest.
>>>Better High Frequency response, Higher output, Lower noise and Lower
>>>impedance - 200 Ohms to be precise.
>>>I Have Wave files recorded of the 6 micron prototype and 2 micron final
>>
>>
>>>production model that I can email and or post.
>>>
>>>SE managed to completely knock the Ball out of the park with this. And
>>>in doing so , they have perfected the process
>>>of making Ribbon Membranes better than any competitor. More on this
>>>amazing new process to follow.
>>>
>>>They did not stop here , Even through they got the 6 micron to have very
>>
>>
>>>good performance they decided utilizing the 2 micron ribbon just put the
>>
>>
>>>performance over the top and went with it for this new amazing mic.
>>>
>>>The All New SE R-1 completely smokes the Royer as well as all others and
>>
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>>>here is the best part.
>>>
>>>At half the price !!
>>>
>>>The New SE has a list price of $ 749 and streets out @ $ 599
>>>
>>>The special (St. Peter ) PARIS Pre-Launch group buy is $ 568.88
>>>
>>>Included with this mic is a Planet waves Premium 20ft Mic Cable, Deluxe
>>
>>
>>>Road case and shockmount.
>>>
>>>We will be able to deliver these in the first week of October - Reserve
>>
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>>>yours NOW !
>>>
>>>As with all SE mics - there is a 7 day NO RISK full refund Guarantee !!
>>>
>>>These Mics will Premier @ AES in a few weeks - My prediction is these
>>>R-1's will be one of the Hottest
>>>Items at the Show. You heard it here FIRST !
>>>
>>>Morgan
>>>Eastcoast Music Mall
>>>800-901-2001
>>>morganp@ntplx.net
>>>
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>Morgan.
I know for a fact, (having toured around Rode's Sydney, Australia
manufacturing plant), that the capsules are made right there.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:43371a1b$1@linux...
>
> I will have R121 royer vs R1 tracks I can send
> or post Later on Monday .
>
> The Shiny box mics are made by the same guys that
> do nady,rode,blue, marshall etc...
>
> Shang Hai Filo makes them all - I know the nady is 6 microns
> and we had for comparisons , while its a ribbon - it really
> is not close in performance at all to the royer or SE.
>
> Morgan
>
>
>
>
> cujo wrote:
>
>> How do they compare to the Shiny Box mics? Morgan <morganp@ntplx.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Greetings
>>>
>>>Siwei Zou ( Soo-Way ) the founder of SE Mics has been hard at work in the
>>>Lab. This time , its all about Ribbons.
>>>
>>>* Pictures are over on the PARIS Newsgroup - My apology they take a while
>>>to load.
>>>
>>>As many of you may be aware - Ribbon mics have a very different response
>>
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>>>than conventional condenser mics. As a result , Ribbons capture sounds in
>>>a very different way . Many engineers and producers use Ribbon mics on
>>>guitar amps, brass instruments , string overheads and a variety of
>>>situations where High Frequencies tend to be to brittle using
>>>conventional mics. Distorted guitar is one of the best examples. Quite
>>>often one tends to EQ the heck out of the track causing untold Phase
>>>damage rendering it unable to sit well in any mix. Using a Ribbon is
>>>perfect in this situation , the mic captures the sound naturally -
>>>thus allowing the guitar to sit perfectly well in the mix without any
>>>nastiness or brittle high end trash that one usually expects.
>>>
>>>A brief overview of Ribbons - RCA was known for developing some of the
>>
>>
>>>most popular Ribbon Mics the RCA 77DX and RCA 74B.
>>>The vintage ribbon mics are Dynamic and use a 6 micron membrane, and
>>>there are a number of low end mics that also use 6 micron. Developments
>>
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>>>in the last 10 years have allowed thinner diaphragms to be practical to
>>
>>
>>>produce and the newer more expensive ribbon mice have diaphragms ranging
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| Re: New SE Ribbon Mics - PARIS group buy [message #53236 is a reply to message #53232] |
Wed, 28 September 2005 01:35 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
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gt;
>>
>>>from 3 microns to 1.8 (about the current limit). The thinner diaphragms
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>>>offer better impedance matching and superior high frequency response.
>>>The inexpensive Ribbon mics often to have a higher impedance which this
>>>does tends to make them low in output , a significant drop off in High
>>>Frequency,a bit noisy and quite sensitive to cable
>>>length and load from a preamp. Finding an optimal combination can be a
>>>challenge.
>>>
>>>The most popular Ribbon mic presently has been the Royer 2.5 Micron
>>>membrane Model R-121.
>>>We have measured the impedance to be @ 470 ohms (as opposed to the
>>>published 300 Ohms)
>>>These mics sell for Approx $1200 each
>>>http://www.royerlabs.com/r_121.html
>>>
>>>SE has used Royer among many others as a benchmark. In doing so, They
>>>started out with a
>>>6 micron Membrane Dynamic with the Clear goal of doing everything Better
>>>than the rest.
>>>Better High Frequency response, Higher output, Lower noise and Lower
>>>impedance - 200 Ohms to be precise.
>>>I Have Wave files recorded of the 6 micron prototype and 2 micron final
>>
>>
>>>production model that I can email and or post.
>>>
>>>SE managed to completely knock the Ball out of the park with this. And in
>>>doing so , they have perfected the process
>>>of making Ribbon Membranes better than any competitor. More on this
>>>amazing new process to follow.
>>>
>>>They did not stop here , Even through they got the 6 micron to have very
>>
>>
>>>good performance they decided utilizing the 2 micron ribbon just put the
>>
>>
>>>performance over the top and went with it for this new amazing mic.
>>>
>>>The All New SE R-1 completely smokes the Royer as well as all others and
>>
>>
>>>here is the best part.
>>>
>>>At half the price !!
>>>
>>>The New SE has a list price of $ 749 and streets out @ $ 599
>>>
>>>The special (St. Peter ) PARIS Pre-Launch group buy is $ 568.88
>>>
>>>Included with this mic is a Planet waves Premium 20ft Mic Cable, Deluxe
>>
>>
>>>Road case and shockmount.
>>>
>>>We will be able to deliver these in the first week of October - Reserve
>>
>>
>>>yours NOW !
>>>
>>>As with all SE mics - there is a 7 day NO RISK full refund Guarantee !!
>>>
>>>These Mics will Premier @ AES in a few weeks - My prediction is these
>>>R-1's will be one of the Hottest
>>>Items at the Show. You heard it here FIRST !
>>>
>>>Morgan
>>>Eastcoast Music Mall
>>>800-901-2001
>>>morganp@ntplx.net
>>>
>>
>>
>Hi Martin,
My apology , please allow me to clarify. Shang Hai Filo makes
most lower end Chinese mics that include the names I mentioned
and many more. I'll have photo's of this facility online soon.
I'm not sure which Rode mics are made ( assembled ) there and which ones
are made by 797 Audio ( Studio Projects etc.. ),I'm sure their premium
mics are made in Australia as you found . I'll find out . Rode , like
many other companies assemble mics in various places due to labor costs
etc...
Martin Harrington wrote:
> Morgan.
> I know for a fact, (having toured around Rode's Sydney, Australia
> manufacturing plant), that the capsules are made right there.Hi Morgan
I saw the machining of the NT6 capsule as well as the NTG shotgun series and
also the NT-4 series.
They recently bought a MULTI million $$$ weapons grade milling machine from
Japan to manufacture capsules and the like.
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:433a799f$1@linux...
> Hi Martin,
> My apology , please allow me to clarify. Shang Hai Filo makes
> most lower end Chinese mics that include the names I mentioned
> and many more. I'll have photo's of this facility online soon.
> I'm not sure which Rode mics are made ( assembled ) there and which ones
> are made by 797 Audio ( Studio Projects etc.. ),I'm sure their premium
> mics are made in Australia as you found . I'll find out . Rode , like many
> other companies assemble mics in various places due to labor costs etc...
>
>
>
>
> Martin Harrington wrote:
>> Morgan.
>> I know for a fact, (having toured around Rode's Sydney, Australia
>> manufacturing plant), that the capsules are made right there.
>I can just see the caption now.....
Australia caught red handed with capsules of mass destruction
AA
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:433b8255$1@linux...
> Hi Morgan
> I saw the machining of the NT6 capsule as well as the NTG shotgun series
> and also the NT-4 series.
> They recently bought a MULTI million $$$ weapons grade milling machine
> from Japan to manufacture capsules and the like.
> --
> Martin Harrington
> www.lendanear-sound.com
>
> "Morgan" <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:433a799f$1@linux...
>> Hi Martin,
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| Re: New SE Ribbon Mics - PARIS group buy [message #53239 is a reply to message #53238] |
Fri, 30 September 2005 08:29 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
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ailto:morganp@ntplx.net" target="_blank">morganp@ntplx.net> wrote in message news:433a799f$1@linux...
>>> Hi Martin,
>>> My apology , please allow me to clarify. Shang Hai Filo makes
>>> most lower end Chinese mics that include the names I mentioned
>>> and many more. I'll have photo's of this facility online soon.
>>> I'm not sure which Rode mics are made ( assembled ) there and which ones
>>> are made by 797 Audio ( Studio Projects etc.. ),I'm sure their premium
>>> mics are made in Australia as you found . I'll find out . Rode , like
>>> many other companies assemble mics in various places due to labor costs
>>> etc...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Martin Harrington wrote:
>>>> Morgan.
>>>> I know for a fact, (having toured around Rode's Sydney, Australia
>>>> manufacturing plant), that the capsules are made right there.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>MP-2NV and MP-1NV
Also EQ-2NV
Practically new all original packing.
Please e-mail me at eduardomack@yahoo.comPlease advise availability and cost.
eduardomack@yahoo.comPreviously viewed Tankersley DVD for sale. I have 2- will part with 1.Hi Jim,
Would you consider shipping to Australia ?
Cheers,
Stewart.
Jim Rosenthal wrote in message <433f8fe4$1@linux>...
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>Previously viewed Tankersle
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| Re: New SE Ribbon Mics - PARIS group buy [message #53240 is a reply to message #53239] |
Fri, 30 September 2005 16:09 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
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y DVD for sale. I have 2- will part with 1.Sure- if you can tell me how...
"Sound Dog" <dogster@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>Hi Jim,
>
>Would you consider shipping to Australia ?
>
>Cheers,
>Stewart.
>
>Jim Rosenthal wrote in message <433f8fe4$1@linux>...
>>
>>Previously viewed Tankersley DVD for sale. I have 2- will part with 1.
>
>Hi Jim how much? $$
"Jim Rosenthal" <gkeepertx@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Previously viewed Tankersley DVD for sale. I have 2- will part with 1.$30 including shipping
"LaMont" <jjdpro@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>Hi Jim how much? $$
>"Jim Rosenthal" <gkeepertx@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>Previously viewed Tankersley DVD for sale. I have 2- will part with 1.
>Symetrix 202 Mic Pre in excellent operating and VG+ cosmetic
condition. Comes with matching Symetrix a/c adapter.
$125.00 including shipping. Paypal add 3%.
thanks much.
jonHi Jim,
I guess US Post would be the simplest method. What payment method (bank
cheque, Paypal, direct deposit) would you prefer ? I've used direct deposit
in the past but it incurs a $25 transfer fee. Maybe PayPal would be best ?
In any case, let me know the total amount and I'll send you address
details. I'm in Sydney, Australia.
Cheers,
Stewart.
Jim Rosenthal wrote in message <4342c654$1@linux>...
>
>Sure- if you can tell me how...
>"Sound Dog" <dogster@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>>Hi Jim,
>>
>>Would you consider shipping to Australia ?
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Stewart.
>>
>>Jim Rosenthal wrote in
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