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Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
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So, I have a live gig coming up where I might need more than the 16 in
my main mobile MEC.

I also only have one EDS card in the mobile rig at the moment.

My options are to pull the EDS from my studio rig and cable it up to
the mobile EDS, and put the 442 in the rack above the MEC. That would
give me another 4 tracks, plus 2 if I also use the IF-2.

Or, is that asking for a headache? I've got a spare MEC, but it won't
fit in the SKB box I have at the moment, so it would have to sit on
top. But that would also give me another 4 (or 6 with the IF-2).

Will the EDS+MEC/EDS+442 combo play nice, or is the 442 really an
antisocial bastard who only likes to play by itself?

As soon as we make a little money on these things, I'm picking up a
second EDS and a pair of 8-in cards for the second MEC.

Of course, that will also require a second EDS and second MEC for the
rig at home....

Ahhhh. Gear fever is starting to settle in....

Thanks.

pab
Re: MEC + 442 -- questions..... [message #93140 is a reply to message #93139] Tue, 27 November 2007 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've been running an MEC and a 442 for, umm, a good couple of years at least
with no trouble...

....well, there's been trouble, but not related to those two pieces of hardware.

A 442 is basically just a cut down MEC. I don't think a Paris system really
cares that it's not a full one. You'll need to patch the word clock out from
whichever interface is on the master EDS into the second interface, but other
than that it should be sweet!

Cheers,
Kim.

Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>So, I have a live gig coming up where I might need more than the 16 in
>my main mobile MEC.
>
>I also only have one EDS card in the mobile rig at the moment.
>
>My options are to pull the EDS from my studio rig and cable it up to
>the mobile EDS, and put the 442 in the rack above the MEC. That would
>give me another 4 tracks, plus 2 if I also use the IF-2.
>
>Or, is that asking for a headache? I've got a spare MEC, but it won't
>fit in the SKB box I have at the moment, so it would have to sit on
>top. But that would also give me another 4 (or 6 with the IF-2).
>
>Will the EDS+MEC/EDS+442 combo play nice, or is the 442 really an
>antisocial bastard who only likes to play by itself?
>
>As soon as we make a little money on these things, I'm picking up a
>second EDS and a pair of 8-in cards for the second MEC.
>
>Of course, that will also require a second EDS and second MEC for the
>rig at home....
>
>Ahhhh. Gear fever is starting to settle in....
>
>Thanks.
>
>pab
Re: MEC + 442 -- questions..... [message #93142 is a reply to message #93140] Tue, 27 November 2007 18:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Paul,
During all my problems with my system the 442 was the=20
only hardware that kept working. No power needed either.
You'll want a healthy power supply in your comp to help it out.
Tom
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:474cc32a$1@linux...


I've been running an MEC and a 442 for, umm, a good couple of years at =
least
with no trouble...

...well, there's been trouble, but not related to those two pieces of =
hardware.

A 442 is basically just a cut down MEC. I don't think a Paris system =
really
cares that it's not a full one. You'll need to patch the word clock =
out from
whichever interface is on the master EDS into the second interface, =
but other
than that it should be sweet!

Cheers,
Kim.

Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>So, I have a live gig coming up where I might need more than the 16 =
in
>my main mobile MEC.
>
>I also only have one EDS card in the mobile rig at the moment.
>
>My options are to pull the EDS from my studio rig and cable it up to
>the mobile EDS, and put the 442 in the rack above the MEC. That =
would
>give me another 4 tracks, plus 2 if I also use the IF-2.
>
>Or, is that asking for a headache? I've got a spare MEC, but it =
won't
>fit in the SKB box I have at the moment, so it would have to sit on
>top. But that would also give me another 4 (or 6 with the IF-2).
>
>Will the EDS+MEC/EDS+442 combo play nice, or is the 442 really an
>antisocial bastard who only likes to play by itself?
>
>As soon as we make a little money on these things, I'm picking up a
>second EDS and a pair of 8-in cards for the second MEC.
>
>Of course, that will also require a second EDS and second MEC for the
>rig at home....
>
>Ahhhh. Gear fever is starting to settle in....
>
>Thanks.
>
>pab



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=
href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>&gt;=
wrote=20
in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:474cc32a$1@linux">news:474cc32a$1@linux</A>...</DIV><BR><BR>=
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not=20
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sweet!<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kim.<BR><BR>Paul Braun &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org">cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org</=
A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;So, I have a live gig coming up where I might need more =
than the=20
16 in<BR>&gt;my main mobile MEC.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;I also only have one =
EDS card=20
in the mobile rig at the moment.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;My options are to pull =
the EDS=20
from my studio rig and cable it up to<BR>&gt;the mobile EDS, and put =
the 442=20
in the rack above the MEC.&nbsp; That would<BR>&gt;give me another 4 =
tracks,=20
plus 2 if I also use the IF-2.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Or, is that asking for a =

headache?&nbsp; I've got a spare MEC, but it won't<BR>&gt;fit in the =
SKB box I=20
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that=20
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an<BR>&gt;antisocial=20
bastard who only likes to play by itself?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;As soon as we =
make a=20
little money on these things, I'm picking up a<BR>&gt;second EDS and a =
pair of=20
8-in cards for the second MEC.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Of course, that will =
also=20
require a second EDS and second MEC for the<BR>&gt;rig at=20
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Re: MEC + 442 -- questions..... [message #93186 is a reply to message #93140] Thu, 29 November 2007 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Braun is currently offline  Paul Braun   UNITED STATES
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On 28 Nov 2007 12:23:54 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>A 442 is basically just a cut down MEC. I don't think a Paris system really
>cares that it's not a full one. You'll need to patch the word clock out from
>whichever interface is on the master EDS into the second interface, but other
>than that it should be sweet!
>

Is WC 50 ohm or 75 ohm cable? I don't have anything handy with two
bnc's on it, so I'll have to hit the local electronics store this
weekend.

pab
Re: MEC + 442 -- questions..... [message #93188 is a reply to message #93186] Thu, 29 November 2007 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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Don't remember, but google says 75 Ohm...

Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>On 28 Nov 2007 12:23:54 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>A 442 is basically just a cut down MEC. I don't think a Paris system really
>>cares that it's not a full one. You'll need to patch the word clock out
from
>>whichever interface is on the master EDS into the second interface, but
other
>>than that it should be sweet!
>>
>
>Is WC 50 ohm or 75 ohm cable? I don't have anything handy with two
>bnc's on it, so I'll have to hit the local electronics store this
>weekend.
>
>pab
Re: MEC + 442 -- questions..... [message #93189 is a reply to message #93188] Thu, 29 November 2007 19:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Paul,
I think Kim is right.
Tom


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:474f8a60@linux...


Don't remember, but google says 75 Ohm...

Paul Braun <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote:
>On 28 Nov 2007 12:23:54 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> =
wrote:
>
>>
>>A 442 is basically just a cut down MEC. I don't think a Paris system =
really
>>cares that it's not a full one. You'll need to patch the word clock =
out
from
>>whichever interface is on the master EDS into the second interface, =
but
other
>>than that it should be sweet!
>>
>
>Is WC 50 ohm or 75 ohm cable? I don't have anything handy with two
>bnc's on it, so I'll have to hit the local electronics store this
>weekend.
>
>pab



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paul,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think Kim is right.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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=
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=
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wrote:<BR>&gt;On 28 Nov 2007 12:23:54 +1000, "Kim" &lt;<A=20
=
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=20
wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;A 442 is basically just a cut =
down MEC.=20
I don't think a Paris system really<BR>&gt;&gt;cares that it's not a =
full one.=20
You'll need to patch the word clock out<BR>from<BR>&gt;&gt;whichever =
interface=20
is on the master EDS into the second interface, =
but<BR>other<BR>&gt;&gt;than=20
that it should be sweet!<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Is WC 50 ohm or 75 =
ohm=20
cable?&nbsp; I don't have anything handy with two<BR>&gt;bnc's on it, =
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Re: MEC + 442 -- questions..... [message #93190 is a reply to message #93186] Thu, 29 November 2007 23:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
audioguy_editout_ is currently offline  audioguy_editout_   CANADA
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Definitely 75 Ohm. Use GOOD quality cables of the shortest
length possible.

David.

Paul Braun wrote:
> On 28 Nov 2007 12:23:54 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>A 442 is basically just a cut down MEC. I don't think a Paris system really
>>cares that it's not a full one. You'll need to patch the word clock out from
>>whichever interface is on the master EDS into the second interface, but other
>>than that it should be sweet!
>>
>
>
> Is WC 50 ohm or 75 ohm cable? I don't have anything handy with two
> bnc's on it, so I'll have to hit the local electronics store this
> weekend.
>
> pab
Re: MEC + 442 -- questions..... [message #93193 is a reply to message #93190] Fri, 30 November 2007 00:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey Paul,
Ya and match the lengths of each cable too.
Make an extra one or two just in case you get another
Mec or one goes bad.
Tom


"Dave(EK Sound)" <audioguy_editout_@shaw.ca> wrote in message =
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Definitely 75 Ohm. Use GOOD quality cables of the shortest=20
length possible.

David.

Paul Braun wrote:
> On 28 Nov 2007 12:23:54 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
>=20
>>A 442 is basically just a cut down MEC. I don't think a Paris system =
really
>>cares that it's not a full one. You'll need to patch the word clock =
out from
>>whichever interface is on the master EDS into the second interface, =
but other
>>than that it should be sweet!
>>
>=20
>=20
> Is WC 50 ohm or 75 ohm cable? I don't have anything handy with two
> bnc's on it, so I'll have to hit the local electronics store this
> weekend.
>=20
> pab


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Paul,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ya and match the lengths of each cable=20
too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Make an extra one or two just in case =
you get=20
another</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mec or one goes bad.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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=
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75=20
Ohm.&nbsp; Use GOOD quality cables of the shortest <BR>length=20
possible.<BR><BR>David.<BR><BR>Paul Braun wrote:<BR>&gt; On 28 Nov =
2007=20
12:23:54 +1000, "Kim" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:hiddensounds@hotmail.com">hiddensounds@hotmail.com</A>&gt;=
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MEC. I=20
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You'll need to patch the word clock out from<BR>&gt;&gt;whichever =
interface is=20
on the master EDS into the second interface, but other<BR>&gt;&gt;than =
that it=20
should be sweet!<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Is WC 50 ohm or =
75 ohm=20
cable?&nbsp; I don't have anything handy with two<BR>&gt; bnc's on it, =
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Re: MEC + 442 -- questions..... [message #93207 is a reply to message #93193] Fri, 30 November 2007 09:51 Go to previous message
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"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hey Paul,
>Ya and match the lengths of each cable too.
>Make an extra one or two just in case you get another
>Mec or one goes bad.
>Tom
>

I've never used WC before - there is an "insie" and an "outsie" on both the
MEC and the 442. Do I just connect MECout to 442in or do I connect both
ways?
Re: MEC + 442 -- questions..... [message #93208 is a reply to message #93207] Fri, 30 November 2007 09:07 Go to previous message
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Paul,
Just in to out one way. Many terminate at the end
of the last unit. Terminators are also 75ohm and
are inexpensive.
Tom


"Paul Braun" <cygnus_nospam@ctgonline.org> wrote in message =
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"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hey Paul,
>Ya and match the lengths of each cable too.
>Make an extra one or two just in case you get another
>Mec or one goes bad.
>Tom
>

I've never used WC before - there is an "insie" and an "outsie" on =
both the
MEC and the 442. Do I just connect MECout to 442in or do I connect =
both
ways?


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Paul,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just in to out one way.&nbsp; Many =
terminate at the=20
end</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>of the last unit.&nbsp; Terminators are =
also 75ohm=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>are inexpensive.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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the=20
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