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Facts and Action (was Re: algore in hell again...) [message #86110 is a reply to message #86106] Tue, 05 June 2007 16:04 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Sure the earth has heated up, the earth has been going through a sun cycle.
The has gone through cycles through it's history. There is no proof the
man made global warming is a serious problem. Sure we should cut back, but
we are not in eminent threat of destroying the earth from man made global
warming. It's not a fact. There are just as many scientist that disagree
with it. The alarmist are profiteering from it. It's a scare tactic. The
scientist that say man made global warming is going to destroy the earth
are being funded to study to study man global warming. It's billion dollars
a year. Those scientist want more money to continue studying man made global
warming. They want more money, and if enough suckers buy in to it they will
legislate laws and taxes. It's about money, that's the real truth! People
are getting rich on this. It's about profiteering on a lie.

Go look at the history of DuPont Freon. When DuPont was going to lose their
patent and freon and it was going to become public domain they band freon.
The said freon was bad for the environment and it was causing a hole in
the ozone layer. So DuPont came up with a new patented coolant gas, which
our government approved. DuPont has an exclusive on government approved
refrigerant. That's how this stuff works, it's about money. Look at what
refrigerant now cost, it's not $3.00 a can anymore.

Sorry I'm not buying in to the bullshit, and I'm not about to pay carbon
offset taxes and hand the wealth of the USA to third world countries.

Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>James, the current global warming is a measured fact. No one who can
>read temperature records is disputing it.
>
>Evidence for human contribution to the current global warming is quite
>compelling and well accepted among climate scientists overall. These are

>not stupid people and they are not conspiring to rip us off. They are
>not political pundits, talk show windbags, politicians or mafioso.
>
>They are scientists, geeks, nerds and, some of them, real heroes.
>
>These scientists have invested their lives in learning all that we know

>about climate. Based on their excellent research, we know enough to act

>on, and we know it in time for actions to make a difference - which is
>good news.
>
>Not acting would be completely irresponsible, given the risks.
>
>How we act is up for discussion. There are many options, we need to
>choose an optimal combination.
>
>I favor acting in ways that build the economy, stimulate innovation and

>increase our energy independence and national security. This could be a

>net win rather than a huge cost. Anyone who thinks dealing with
>anthropogenic global warming is too expensive, total up the costs of not

>dealing with it and think again.
>
>At this point, after decades of serious scientific study, calling it
>bullshit is bullshit. You may think some folks are being too alarmist
>about it, and maybe they are. But climate change is a problem, the
>scientific evidence is there, and it won't go away by pretending it
>doesn't exist or being fearful about stepping up to the plate. Since
>when have we been afraid to face facts in this country?
>
>It's time to keep our heads out of the sand, act prudently, and plan
>wisely for the next generations.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
>> I believe in science, I believe in funding science. I don't believe in
funding
>> bullshit!
>>
>> Global warming is a boondoggle!
>>
>> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote:
>>> Yeah, let's not finance science whatever we do. It's just a big conspiracy
>>
>>> to destroy religion.
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>>
>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4664a51e$1@linux...
>>>> Sounding the alarm bells!!! It's a crisis!!! We are going to fall

>>>> behind!!!
>>>> hurry, hurry, hurry! Call your government officials and let them know
>>
>>>> they
>>>> need to spend, spend, spend!!! Money, money, money!!!
>>>>
>>>> Boy, if we don't spend more money on this global warming thing we are
>> all
>>>> going to die!!! What bull shit!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19030744/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> i guess you'd have to go to mylasia and the sort where the islands
are
>>>>>> disappearing under the sea a little each year. i don't know why
>>>>>> people insist on global cataclysm before the "possibility" exists.
>>>>>> shit happens and happens all the time and historically we've had
>>>>>> warming and cooling trends on this blue marble. i find it hard to
>>>>>> deny that we (all 6 billion plus) do not negatively impact our
>>>>>> surroundings in some way and possibly faster than the planet can
>>>>>> correct it.
>>>>>> the "it's all about money" works both ways and it ain't always the
>>>>>> leftie commie longhair atheists makin' a buck.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah it is!
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5 Jun 2007 01:07:29 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There were a bunch of Greens that went to the north poll to prove
that
>>>>> it
>>>>>>> is now warm. They literally had to cut their feet and hands off
because
>>>>>>> of frost bite.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it has already melted where are all the floods Al Gore is talking
>>
>>>>>>> about???
>>>>>>> It's still bullshit!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> James...........go to Google Earth and find the north Pole (0:00)

>>>>>>>> degrees
>>>>>>>> longitude and 90:00 latitude and tell me if you see any snow there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll save you some time.......it's water now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Deej
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:4663a090$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>> Your dragging me in to this. The european space agency has been
>>
>>>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>> photos
>>>>>>>>> of the polar caps for years. They say that they melt an break
and
>>>> all
>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>> They say they refreeze, and are staying the same size over all.

>> They
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> not shrinking, it's a big lie!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Al Gore is a lier. It's about money! A greasy politician like
Al
>>>> Gore
>>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>>> be involved if it wasn't. He is buying Global offsets for $0.10
>> and
>>>>>>>>> turning
>>>>>>>>> and selling them to us for a dollar, it's about money. These
>>>>>>>>> trilateralist
>>>>>>>>> want to turn it in to a tax. they want to take the tax revenue
and
>>>>> hand
>>>>>>>>> it to third world countries. Guilt tax!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The truth is, our government spends over two billion dollars a
year
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> study
>>>>>>>>> this. The scientist that are on the government gravy train want
>> to
>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> funding
>>>>>>>>> increased. Other scientist are saying it's not true. Man made

>>>>>>>>> global
>>>>>>>>> warming
>>>>>>>>> is a scam.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Scientist are divided on this issue of man made Global Warming.

>> Man
>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>> Global Warming is a theory. There is no conclusive proof.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All the scientist know we are going through a sun cycle that has
>> been
>>>>>>>>> warming
>>>>>>>>> the earth.
>>>>>>>>> Show me some proof that people are dyeing from Global Warming,
you
>>>> can't.
>>>>>>>>> There has always been bad weather. The earth always goes through
>>
>>>>>>>>> cycles.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The guy that came up with man made global warming said back in
the
>>>> 70s
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> we would be in an ice age right now. So which is it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's about money.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry I'm not buying in to the man's bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I'm serious James. I grew up in south Texas, and spent a good
part
>>>>> of
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> life on the Gulf coast. there were droughts and heat waves and

>>>>>>>>>> hurricanes
>>>>>>>>>> and all sorts of cyclical weather events. I'm well over the half
>>
>>>>>>>>>> century
>>>>>>>>>> mark so I may have a little perspective on this due to my qualifying
>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> somewhat of an old fart, and I've never seen sustained water
>>>>>>>>>> temperatures
>>>>>>>>>> this high in the gulf of Mexico. that may not cause hurricanes
in
>> and
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> itself, but it the warmer the water, the more likely a tropical
storm
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> turn into a real motherfucker on the half shell.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:46638b62$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Check the polar icecap. This was taken from Google Earth today.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Where
>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> go...or has it always been this tiny?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't find any satellite photos of the North Pole in 1992
to
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> compare.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's probably Bush's fault.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gore melted it with all his hot air!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "DC" <dc@spammersinthetroposphere.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:46630a29$1@linux...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html? id=c47c1209-233b-412c-b6d1-5c755457a8af
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is getting interesting innit?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>

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