| MellowmusenATA [message #101386] |
Tue, 02 December 2008 15:37  |
thesandbxo
Messages: 9
Registered: February 2008
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Does anyone have the previous VST version 1.1 and has anyone tried using this
and happy with it???
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| Re: Mellowmuse ATA - ALL PARIS USERS - READ THIS PLEASE!! [message #101423 is a reply to message #101421] |
Wed, 03 December 2008 11:14  |
TC
Messages: 327
Registered: September 2005
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Hi Tom,
Thanks, I did see that before and have looked briefly at Faderworks, but
have not tried it yet (still getting my rig organized here). I would
certainly support that effort as well as it also looks like a major
breakthrough.
Mellowmuse is likely poised to be the ADC solution for Pro Tools LE,
(until Digi implements it when they see that there's no longer any point
not to), which means a large user base and updates etc.
At the very least, I think this is an important (additional) path to
pursue with Gary of MM, especially with the pinging method. If it works
as advertised with a high degree of accuracy, it would essentially give
us full ADC in Paris with no effort, save for instantiating the plugin
on every track. My limited understanding is that Faderworks is also
fairly effortless, so it essentially then would come down to preference
and workflow.
So to sum it up, I'll be buying faderworks, and hopefully Mellowmuse
will have a VST version which I'll also be supporting. It's great to
have options when working in Paris, and both of these things are really
going to help move Paris forward.
Cheers,
TC
Tom Bruhl wrote:
> TC,
>
> I'm not sure if you know this but Dimitrios pushed to get
> Faderworks to do the same thing months ago. I have that
> working successfully already in my rig. The only thing it
> doesn't do is ping to calculate the plugin's latency automatically.
> http://www.vertexdsp.com/products_faderworks.html
> I have a list of plugin latencies that works for me here.
>
> It was on the designer's things to do I think? It works just like
> one would hope. The only issue I have is I hesitate to use
> plugins until all the tracking has been completed. Otherwise
> when doing a few overdubs I have to bypass all plugins first.
>
> Tom
>
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> "TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
> news:4936baec$1@linux...
>> I went and posted. Everybody still using Paris here needs to take a minute
>> and post on that thread to show your interest. This could be a huge deal
>> for Paris advancement if Gary is willing to do continued development on
>> this plugin.
>>
>> http://www.mellowmuse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=130
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> TC
>>
>>
>> thesandbox wrote:
>>> Here is the thread he just started on his site....please go there and
>>> give
>>> your support!!! http://www.mellowmuse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=130
>>>
>>> I've had a request for continuing the VST version, i just wanted to check
>>> if there's
>>> any real demand still for it, for use in other DAWs (PARIS was
>>> mentioned).
>>> If theres not much interest it wouldnt make sense supporting the format,
>>> same goes for a Audio Unit version.
>>> Gary
>>> Mellowmuse
>
>
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| Re: Mellowmuse ATA - ALL PARIS USERS - READ THIS PLEASE!! [message #101443 is a reply to message #101441] |
Wed, 03 December 2008 21:25 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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well, I watched a bit of the video on the 'how to' thing. It looks like a
control is bursting a tone out of each channel, probably a different
progressing tone would be my guess so it can separate when each frequency
reaches the master, then it know when it sent on each channel and how late
it was coming back. Thus, the PDC knows what to do. Problem is, the busses
in Paris have no VST insert with which to read this latency data.
AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49376433@linux...
> Aaron,
>
> Do we care about the master (global?) bus? Latency isn't really an issue
> there
> is it? I'm a little confused. What do you mean by your statement?
>
> Tom
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> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
> news:49376213@linux...
>>I could be wrong but to me it looks like they're pinging out of each
>>channel with a burst tone, and reading the latency of each track/tone into
>>the master. There's the part that'll snag us. No VST on our master or
>>global bus routes with which to read that tone.
>> That'd bust it functionally.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>> "TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
>> news:4936baec$1@linux...
>>>I went and posted. Everybody still using Paris here needs to take a
>>>minute and post on that thread to show your interest. This could be a
>>>huge deal for Paris advancement if Gary is willing to do continued
>>>development on this plugin.
>>>
>>> http://www.mellowmuse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=130
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> TC
>>>
>>>
>>> thesandbox wrote:
>>>> Here is the thread he just started on his site....please go there and
>>>> give
>>>> your support!!! http://www.mellowmuse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=130
>>>>
>>>> I've had a request for continuing the VST version, i just wanted to
>>>> check
>>>> if there's
>>>> any real demand still for it, for use in other DAWs (PARIS was
>>>> mentioned).
>>>> If theres not much interest it wouldnt make sense supporting the
>>>> format,
>>>> same goes for a Audio Unit version.
>>>> Gary
>>>> Mellowmuse
>>
>>
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| Re: Mellowmuse ATA - ALL PARIS USERS - READ THIS PLEASE!! [message #101444 is a reply to message #101443] |
Wed, 03 December 2008 21:33 |
Tom Bruhl
Messages: 1368
Registered: June 2007
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Senior Member |
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Ouch. Now I get it.
T.
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
news:49376dae@linux...
> well, I watched a bit of the video on the 'how to' thing. It looks like a
> control is bursting a tone out of each channel, probably a different
> progressing tone would be my guess so it can separate when each frequency
> reaches the master, then it know when it sent on each channel and how late
> it was coming back. Thus, the PDC knows what to do. Problem is, the busses
> in Paris have no VST insert with which to read this latency data.
> AA
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49376433@linux...
>> Aaron,
>>
>> Do we care about the master (global?) bus? Latency isn't really an issue
>> there
>> is it? I'm a little confused. What do you mean by your statement?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:49376213@linux...
>>>I could be wrong but to me it looks like they're pinging out of each
>>>channel with a burst tone, and reading the latency of each track/tone
>>>into the master. There's the part that'll snag us. No VST on our master
>>>or global bus routes with which to read that tone.
>>> That'd bust it functionally.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
>>> news:4936baec$1@linux...
>>>>I went and posted. Everybody still using Paris here needs to take a
>>>>minute and post on that thread to show your interest. This could be a
>>>>huge deal for Paris advancement if Gary is willing to do continued
>>>>development on this plugin.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mellowmuse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=130
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> TC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thesandbox wrote:
>>>>> Here is the thread he just started on his site....please go there and
>>>>> give
>>>>> your support!!! http://www.mellowmuse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=130
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had a request for continuing the VST version, i just wanted to
>>>>> check
>>>>> if there's
>>>>> any real demand still for it, for use in other DAWs (PARIS was
>>>>> mentioned).
>>>>> If theres not much interest it wouldnt make sense supporting the
>>>>> format,
>>>>> same goes for a Audio Unit version.
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> Mellowmuse
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Mellowmuse ATA - ALL PARIS USERS - READ THIS PLEASE!! [message #101445 is a reply to message #101443] |
Wed, 03 December 2008 21:36 |
Kerry Galloway
Messages: 56
Registered: December 2008
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Would Wires have any bearing on this?
Pity we can't build an "EDS wrapper" - an EDS plugin that wraps a
pipeline into the VST architecture.
- K
On 2008-12-03 21:25:48 -0800, "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> said:
> well, I watched a bit of the video on the 'how to' thing. It looks like a
> control is bursting a tone out of each channel, probably a different
> progressing tone would be my guess so it can separate when each frequency
> reaches the master, then it know when it sent on each channel and how late
> it was coming back. Thus, the PDC knows what to do. Problem is, the busses
> in Paris have no VST insert with which to read this latency data.
> AA
>
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message news:49376433@linux...
>> Aaron,
>>
>> Do we care about the master (global?) bus? Latency isn't really an issue
>> there
>> is it? I'm a little confused. What do you mean by your statement?
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote in message
>> news:49376213@linux...
>>> I could be wrong but to me it looks like they're pinging out of each
>>> channel with a burst tone, and reading the latency of each track/tone into
>>> the master. There's the part that'll snag us. No VST on our master or
>>> global bus routes with which to read that tone.
>>> That'd bust it functionally.
>>>
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
>>> news:4936baec$1@linux...
>>>> I went and posted. Everybody still using Paris here needs to take a
>>>> minute and post on that thread to show your interest. This could be a
>>>> huge deal for Paris advancement if Gary is willing to do continued
>>>> development on this plugin.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.mellowmuse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=130
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> TC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thesandbox wrote:
>>>>> Here is the thread he just started on his site....please go there and
>>>>> give
>>>>> your support!!! http://www.mellowmuse.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=130
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had a request for continuing the VST version, i just wanted to
>>>>> check
>>>>> if there's
>>>>> any real demand still for it, for use in other DAWs (PARIS was
>>>>> mentioned).
>>>>> If theres not much interest it wouldnt make sense supporting the
>>>>> format,
>>>>> same goes for a Audio Unit version.
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> Mellowmuse
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