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Tom Bruhl
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This is after over a week of Midi Hell. I am fairly well
versed with midi as a whole. This has been far less pleasant
than my first day with multi-timberal synths, controllers, editors,
computers, midi merging, SMPTE to Midi Song Pointer and=20
no information to start with.
Problem #1:
After not being able to transmit sysex from my Amiga
to my TX7s without it 'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch bay
and crashing Windows into an auto restart from black screen
I loaded FM Alive. This allows the PC (instead of Amiga)
to send this sysex data. Well the problems didn't go away,they
just changed. FM Alive was getting long sysex messages that made=20
no sense. It would work at editing the synths but irrelevant data=20
was constantly being seen to the program. I disconnected all midi=20
connections from the Motu 8x8 and STILL USB-MIDI data was being seen. =20
Cubase wasn't open. I have not been beaten.
I decided to try my original concept of using this Motu 8x8
as a stand alone and program a few presets, disconnect
the USB, reinstall my Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the=20
old fashioned way. Midi in/out of Cubase through
Fastlane to one input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed
to all ins/outs of hardware synths. Piece of cake so I thought.=20
Now to dig up the drivers for the FastLane again... I loaded what=20
I thought were the right ones but they weren't. They were for the com =
port.
Okay, so I download the newest ones from Motu's site. I bring
them into the computer to realize minus Clockworks they are
the exact same drivers that were already in there for the 8x8. Well
the 8x8 wasn't working flawlessly so I thought I'd 'remove'
then 'reinstall' them just to be safe. After the reinstall, the
directions are to plug in the device (USB cable) and Windows should=20
recognize the new hardware. The only thing that was recognized was the=20
smell of burning components. I quickly shut down two computers to
find out that the green FastLane smoked!
This is the final straw. =20
Drivers from Motu are flakey as hell.
I swear they sent a higher than normal voltage down the USB=20
line somehow. =20
I now need a new small in/out box (2x2) and a stand alone 8x8=20
that works and merges without Fn drivers.
What is there?
The "sick of it all" guy,
Tom
PS Midi is still cool. Motu is not.
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>This is after =
over a week=20
of Midi Hell. I am fairly well</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT =
color=3D#800000>versed with=20
midi as a whole. This has been <FONT size=3D3>far less=20
pleasant</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>than my first =
day with=20
multi-timberal synths, controllers, editors,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>computers, =
midi=20
merging, SMPTE to Midi Song Pointer and </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>no =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>information to start=20
with.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Problem =
#1:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>After not =
being able to=20
transmit sysex from my Amiga</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>to my TX7s =
without it=20
'taking out' the Motu 8x8 patch bay</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>and crashing =
Windows into=20
an auto restart from black screen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I loaded FM =
Alive. =20
This allows the PC (instead of Amiga)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>to send this =
sysex=20
data. Well the problems didn't go away,they</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>just =
changed. FM=20
Alive </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>was =
getting long=20
sysex messages that made </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>no =
sense. It would=20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>work at =
editing the=20
synths but irrelevant data </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>was =
constantly being=20
seen to the program. </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
color=3D#800000=20
size=3D2>I disconnected all midi </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>connections =
from the Motu=20
8x8 and </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>STILL USB-MIDI=20
data was being seen. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Cubase wasn't =
open. & nbsp; & n=
bsp; &n bsp; &n b=
sp; =20
I have not been beaten.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I decided to =
try my=20
original concept of using this Motu 8x8</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>as a stand =
alone and=20
program a few presets, disconnect</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>the USB, =
reinstall my=20
Fastlane 2x2 and hook it up the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>old fashioned =
way. =20
Midi in/out of Cubase through</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Fastlane to =
one=20
input/output of Motu 8x8 then routed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>to all =
ins/outs of hardware=20
synths. Piece of cake so I thought. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2> Now to =
dig=20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>up the =
drivers for the=20
FastLane again... I loaded what </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>thought were the right =
ones but they=20
weren't. They were for the com port.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Okay, so I =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>download the newest ones =
from Motu's=20
site. I bring</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>them into the =
computer to=20
realize minus Clockworks they are</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>the exact =
same drivers that=20
were already in there for the 8x8. Well</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>the 8x8 =
wasn't working=20
flawlessly so I thought I'd 'remove'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>then =
'reinstall' them just=20
to be safe. After the reinstall, the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>directions =
are to plug in=20
the device (USB cable) and Windows should </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>recognize the =
new=20
hardware. The only thing that was recognized was the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT =
color=3D#800000><FONT=20
size=3D3>smell of burning components.</FONT> I quickly shut down =
two=20
computers to</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT =
color=3D#800000>find out that=20
<FONT size=3D3>the green FastLane =
smoked!</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>This is the =
final=20
straw. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>Drivers from =
Motu are=20
flakey as hell.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I swear they =
sent a higher=20
than normal voltage down the USB </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>line =
somehow. =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>I now need a =
new small=20
in/out box (2x2) and a stand alone 8x8 </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>that works =
</FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>and merges without Fn=20
drivers.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>What is =
there?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2>The "sick of =
it all"=20
guy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 =
size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000>PS Midi is still =
cool. Motu=20
is not.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" color=3D#800000 size=3D2> =20
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