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Thu, 20 April 2006 18:38 |
Kim
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Well, I went to a jazz gig last night. Paul Grabowsky and a bunch of other
dudes who's names I probably would know if I knew as much about jazz as I'd
like to. ;o)
So this week's whim for me is that I want to switch all my musical persuits
to jazz. I mean rock is all so yesterday. ;o) Actually, it's not a sudden
whim for this week. It's been brewing for some time,but I've been avoiding
ths switch because it sounds like too much hard work.
Part of the problem is that jazz musos, or good ones at least, are so good.
;o) I mean when you compare the keyboard parts in the average top ten tune,
to the piano part in an average jazz tune, there's no comparison. One is
decidedly more difficult, more advanced, and more clever. And harder to play.
And for the last 20 years, when I've wanted to learn a tune, I've listened
to a recorded performance of the tune, and then worked out some parts to
imitate what I hear, but with jazz the expectation is different. For starters
most recorded versions are incredibly personalised to the player. If I copy
what I hear on a record, I'll just sound like somebody emulating that particular
recording, where the expectation is that I should be doing my own, different,
original version. I mean I'm quite capable of doing that, but I need to learn
the tune somehow, and while I have some ability to read charts, I'm hardly
an expert at it, as I've found that working off the actual recordings is
generally far more effective for pop/rock music. Not so for jazz it seems.
Anybody know of somewhere where I can download copies of jazz standards
"as they're written"? A reference point as to how the original melody goes
before people start "doing jazz" to it? Bet there's no such thing... ...would
be handy, for me at least. MIDI files even might be ideal.
And of course I don't actually know any real jazz musos. I know some people
who know a bit of jazz, but nobody where I'd say there expertise is in jazz.
I think I just need to bite the bullet and start putting some serious effort
into improving my chart reading skills...
Cheers,
Kim.
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By: Kim on Thu, 20 April 2006 18:38
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