| Faderworks...advantages? [message #104781] |
Mon, 15 February 2010 12:16  |
drfrankencopter
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I just bought a new bunch of PC parts, and provided they all work with Paris, I may investigate some new workflow methodologies, including the FFX4 chainer, Senderella, and Faderworks.
It's clear to me what the chainer and Senderella have to offer, but what I'm unsure of is what the advantages of Faderworks are, and how best to integrate it into Paris.
Do you insert a faderworks plug-in on every channel (I assume yes), and then make groups (e.g. drums, vox, BGV) for easy gain/solo/mute adjustments? How do you inform the plug-in regarding what other plugins are active so that it can calculate the latency? How does it know that say it's on submix 2 and has an additional 9 samples latency (I think that's the right number)...
Just curious before I try it out...
Cheers
Kris
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| Re: Faderworks...advantages? [message #104832 is a reply to message #104781] |
Mon, 22 February 2010 10:39  |
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| Quote: | Do you insert a faderworks plug-in on every channel (I assume yes), and then make groups (e.g. drums, vox, BGV) for easy gain/solo/mute adjustments?
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Exactly.
| Quote: | How do you inform the plug-in regarding what other plugins are active so that it can calculate the latency?
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Going from hearsay and from what I've read on their site - each time you add a new plugin to your mix you tell Faderworks what it is and what its latency is. That becomes part of a database shared between all instances, and it shows up as a "checkbox" in every instance of Faderworks. When you add the same plugin to another track, you tick the now-already-existing checkbox for that plugin, and Faderworks does the internal math to compensate that track (or the other tracks depending on "who has the highest total latency") accordingly.
| Quote: | How does it know that say it's on submix 2 and has an additional 9 samples latency (I think that's the right number)...
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I'm afraid I don't know. If you have a Faderworks plug on all channels of all submixes - since it's a manual checkbox system, I'd wonder if it would be as simple a matter of registering the EDS card's latency too - enter a "plugin" type called, say, SUBMIX2, with a latency of nine samples, SUBMIX3 with a latency of eleven etc (going by memory on the numbers myself), then use Faderworks to compensate the submixes themselves by turning on the relevant ones for that submix.
If it doesn't work like that already, the developer's shown himself willing to work with PARIS users - it'd be pretty easy to ask for. I suspect it might already work like that.
I tend to keep things that require sample sync together on one submix anyway, and as for more gross timing - at the end of eight submixes you'd still have only accumulated 20-odd samples latency, or around half a millisecond. Effectively imperceptible for more ordinary use. But if it's an issue for you, Faderworks could be a great way to compensate.
| Quote: | Just curious before I try it out...
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Let us know what you discover, and if my guesswork is in the ballpark.
"... being bitter is like swallowing poison and waiting for the other guy to die..." - anon
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