The PARIS Forums


Home » The PARIS Forums » PARIS: Main » Compression test
Compression test [message #69329] Wed, 14 June 2006 17:40 Go to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
Others might suggest a better kick/snare in the TD20 but this is the Peart
one for starters.

http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
http://tinyurl.com/ef2fj

Lets see if anyone can get close to the compression, air and slapback that
this has going on. Of course I don't expect miracles but have at it.

Thanks,
John
Re: Compression test [message #69334 is a reply to message #69329] Wed, 14 June 2006 21:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
The tones aren't close enough for a compressor to react the same way. The
snare is too small and the kick is too big on the low end.
No compressor is going to fix that.

AA


"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4490ac7d$1@linux...
>
> Others might suggest a better kick/snare in the TD20 but this is the Peart
> one for starters.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
> http://tinyurl.com/ef2fj
>
> Lets see if anyone can get close to the compression, air and slapback that
> this has going on. Of course I don't expect miracles but have at it.
>
> Thanks,
> John


I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
Re: Compression test [message #69336 is a reply to message #69334] Thu, 15 June 2006 04:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
See, that's where your refined ear can hear that through the verbs and compression.
I'll redo them and go for a smaller kick and bigger snare. By bigger you
don't mean verb right? You mean the physical size.

"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>The tones aren't close enough for a compressor to react the same way. The

>snare is too small and the kick is too big on the low end.
>No compressor is going to fix that.
>
>AA
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4490ac7d$1@linux...
>>
>> Others might suggest a better kick/snare in the TD20 but this is the Peart
>> one for starters.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>> http://tinyurl.com/ef2fj
>>
>> Lets see if anyone can get close to the compression, air and slapback
that
>> this has going on. Of course I don't expect miracles but have at it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>
>
>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>
>
Re: Compression test [message #69337 is a reply to message #69336] Thu, 15 June 2006 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
Senior Member
Yes, I mean that it needs more wood/body sound.. a bigger and/or deeper
shell might get you there, perhaps mic techinique/type parameters... verb is
not going to help with this sound issue. Tuning the pitch might also help,
but I've found mostly it hurts other areas too much. You may also be able to
stack samples? Dunno, don't have a V kit here. If you do stack, make sure
that the sample 'hits' at the exact same time or risk phase holes.

The best way to think of it is that what you start out with should be as
close as possible w/o any processing to what you want for an end result.

AA


"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44913e22$1@linux...
>
> See, that's where your refined ear can hear that through the verbs and
> compression.
> I'll redo them and go for a smaller kick and bigger snare. By bigger you
> don't mean verb right? You mean the physical size.
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>The tones aren't close enough for a compressor to react the same way. The
>
>>snare is too small and the kick is too big on the low end.
>>No compressor is going to fix that.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4490ac7d$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Others might suggest a better kick/snare in the TD20 but this is the
>>> Peart
>>> one for starters.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>>> http://tinyurl.com/ef2fj
>>>
>>> Lets see if anyone can get close to the compression, air and slapback
> that
>>> this has going on. Of course I don't expect miracles but have at it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> John
>>
>>
>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>
>>
>
Re: Compression test [message #69339 is a reply to message #69337] Thu, 15 June 2006 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
I agree, so why not stop by the house and show me how. hehe

"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Yes, I mean that it needs more wood/body sound.. a bigger and/or deeper

>shell might get you there, perhaps mic techinique/type parameters... verb
is
>not going to help with this sound issue. Tuning the pitch might also help,

>but I've found mostly it hurts other areas too much. You may also be able
to
>stack samples? Dunno, don't have a V kit here. If you do stack, make sure

>that the sample 'hits' at the exact same time or risk phase holes.
>
>The best way to think of it is that what you start out with should be as

>close as possible w/o any processing to what you want for an end result.
>
>AA
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44913e22$1@linux...
>>
>> See, that's where your refined ear can hear that through the verbs and

>> compression.
>> I'll redo them and go for a smaller kick and bigger snare. By bigger
you
>> don't mean verb right? You mean the physical size.
>>
>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>The tones aren't close enough for a compressor to react the same way.
The
>>
>>>snare is too small and the kick is too big on the low end.
>>>No compressor is going to fix that.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4490ac7d$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Others might suggest a better kick/snare in the TD20 but this is the

>>>> Peart
>>>> one for starters.
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ef2fj
>>>>
>>>> Lets see if anyone can get close to the compression, air and slapback
>> that
>>>> this has going on. Of course I don't expect miracles but have at it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Compression test [message #69350 is a reply to message #69339] Thu, 15 June 2006 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pauln[2] is currently offline  pauln[2]
Messages: 28
Registered: September 2007
Junior Member
A few API pre's would beef them up a bit for sure.
:)


"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>I agree, so why not stop by the house and show me how. hehe
>
>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Yes, I mean that it needs more wood/body sound.. a bigger and/or deeper
>
>>shell might get you there, perhaps mic techinique/type parameters... verb
>is
>>not going to help with this sound issue. Tuning the pitch might also help,
>
>>but I've found mostly it hurts other areas too much. You may also be able
>to
>>stack samples? Dunno, don't have a V kit here. If you do stack, make sure
>
>>that the sample 'hits' at the exact same time or risk phase holes.
>>
>>The best way to think of it is that what you start out with should be as
>
>>close as possible w/o any processing to what you want for an end result.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44913e22$1@linux...
>>>
>>> See, that's where your refined ear can hear that through the verbs and
>
>>> compression.
>>> I'll redo them and go for a smaller kick and bigger snare. By bigger
>you
>>> don't mean verb right? You mean the physical size.
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>The tones aren't close enough for a compressor to react the same way.
>The
>>>
>>>>snare is too small and the kick is too big on the low end.
>>>>No compressor is going to fix that.
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4490ac7d$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> Others might suggest a better kick/snare in the TD20 but this is the
>
>>>>> Peart
>>>>> one for starters.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ef2fj
>>>>>
>>>>> Lets see if anyone can get close to the compression, air and slapback
>>> that
>>>>> this has going on. Of course I don't expect miracles but have at it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> John
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Compression test [message #69354 is a reply to message #69350] Thu, 15 June 2006 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
If you need my address to send them, let me know. In the meantime, here's
the latest.

http://tinyurl.com/qrcam

You have a stereo pair, and kick,snare, hihat on separate wave files.

The comparison file is here: http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
Thanks,
John

"Paul" <pn@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>A few API pre's would beef them up a bit for sure.
>:)
>
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>I agree, so why not stop by the house and show me how. hehe
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>Yes, I mean that it needs more wood/body sound.. a bigger and/or deeper
>>
>>>shell might get you there, perhaps mic techinique/type parameters... verb
>>is
>>>not going to help with this sound issue. Tuning the pitch might also help,
>>
>>>but I've found mostly it hurts other areas too much. You may also be able
>>to
>>>stack samples? Dunno, don't have a V kit here. If you do stack, make sure
>>
>>>that the sample 'hits' at the exact same time or risk phase holes.
>>>
>>>The best way to think of it is that what you start out with should be
as
>>
>>>close as possible w/o any processing to what you want for an end result.
>>>
>>>AA
>>>
>>>
>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44913e22$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> See, that's where your refined ear can hear that through the verbs and
>>
>>>> compression.
>>>> I'll redo them and go for a smaller kick and bigger snare. By bigger
>>you
>>>> don't mean verb right? You mean the physical size.
>>>>
>>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>The tones aren't close enough for a compressor to react the same way.
>>The
>>>>
>>>>>snare is too small and the kick is too big on the low end.
>>>>>No compressor is going to fix that.
>>>>>
>>>>>AA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4490ac7d$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Others might suggest a better kick/snare in the TD20 but this is the
>>
>>>>>> Peart
>>>>>> one for starters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ef2fj
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lets see if anyone can get close to the compression, air and slapback
>>>> that
>>>>>> this has going on. Of course I don't expect miracles but have at
it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Compression test [message #69366 is a reply to message #69354] Fri, 16 June 2006 07:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pauln[1] is currently offline  Pauln[1]
Messages: 19
Registered: February 2007
Junior Member
Hey I'm only 3 hours up the road from you. Come check it out some time. :)

"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>If you need my address to send them, let me know. In the meantime, here's
>the latest.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/qrcam
>
>You have a stereo pair, and kick,snare, hihat on separate wave files.
>
>The comparison file is here: http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>Thanks,
>John
>
>"Paul" <pn@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>A few API pre's would beef them up a bit for sure.
>>:)
>>
>>
>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>I agree, so why not stop by the house and show me how. hehe
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>Yes, I mean that it needs more wood/body sound.. a bigger and/or deeper
>>>
>>>>shell might get you there, perhaps mic techinique/type parameters...
verb
>>>is
>>>>not going to help with this sound issue. Tuning the pitch might also
help,
>>>
>>>>but I've found mostly it hurts other areas too much. You may also be
able
>>>to
>>>>stack samples? Dunno, don't have a V kit here. If you do stack, make
sure
>>>
>>>>that the sample 'hits' at the exact same time or risk phase holes.
>>>>
>>>>The best way to think of it is that what you start out with should be
>as
>>>
>>>>close as possible w/o any processing to what you want for an end result.
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:44913e22$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> See, that's where your refined ear can hear that through the verbs
and
>>>
>>>>> compression.
>>>>> I'll redo them and go for a smaller kick and bigger snare. By bigger
>>>you
>>>>> don't mean verb right? You mean the physical size.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>>>>>The tones aren't close enough for a compressor to react the same way.
>>>The
>>>>>
>>>>>>snare is too small and the kick is too big on the low end.
>>>>>>No compressor is going to fix that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>AA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"John" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:4490ac7d$1@linux...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Others might suggest a better kick/snare in the TD20 but this is
the
>>>
>>>>>>> Peart
>>>>>>> one for starters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/gtacu
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ef2fj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lets see if anyone can get close to the compression, air and slapback
>>>>> that
>>>>>>> this has going on. Of course I don't expect miracles but have at
>it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
>>>>>>http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Compression test [message #69376 is a reply to message #69366] Fri, 16 June 2006 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
where are you at?
Re: Compression test [message #69379 is a reply to message #69376] Fri, 16 June 2006 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
he said "3 hours up the road from you"...sheesh. i think you need to
decompress a little.

On 17 Jun 2006 04:04:13 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:

>
>where are you at?
Re: Compression test [message #69380 is a reply to message #69376] Fri, 16 June 2006 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pauln[1] is currently offline  Pauln[1]
Messages: 19
Registered: February 2007
Junior Member
Charlotte. Aren't you in Charleston... or was is Columbia?

"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>where are you at?
Re: Compression test [message #69382 is a reply to message #69380] Fri, 16 June 2006 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
john's not very good at quiz's so be wary of his answer.

On 17 Jun 2006 04:30:34 +1000, "Paul" <paul@nospam.com> wrote:

>
>Charlotte. Aren't you in Charleston... or was is Columbia?
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>where are you at?
Re: Compression test [message #69383 is a reply to message #69379] Fri, 16 June 2006 14:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
Hey dumbass, gimmie a break. I stood outside and looked up the road for
3 hours and never saw him.... gimmie a break...jeez!!!

hehe

rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>he said "3 hours up the road from you"...sheesh. i think you need to
>decompress a little.
>
>On 17 Jun 2006 04:04:13 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>where are you at?
>
Re: Compression test [message #69384 is a reply to message #69380] Fri, 16 June 2006 14:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
Yes, Charleston

"Paul" <paul@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>Charlotte. Aren't you in Charleston... or was is Columbia?
>
>"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>where are you at?
>
Re: Compression test [message #69385 is a reply to message #69383] Fri, 16 June 2006 14:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
Senior Member
Now, now... respect your elders... that's *Mr.* Dumbass... ;-)

David.

John wrote:
> Hey dumbass, gimmie a break. I stood outside and looked up the road for
> 3 hours and never saw him.... gimmie a break...jeez!!!
>
> hehe
>
> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>he said "3 hours up the road from you"...sheesh. i think you need to
>>decompress a little.
>>
>>On 17 Jun 2006 04:04:13 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>where are you at?
>>
>
Re: Compression test [message #69388 is a reply to message #69385] Fri, 16 June 2006 15:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
Senior Member
oops, sorry
Re: Compression test [message #69414 is a reply to message #69383] Sat, 17 June 2006 01:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
LOL! and that's mr. dumbass...where has the respect gone these
days???

On 17 Jun 2006 07:22:05 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:

>
>Hey dumbass, gimmie a break. I stood outside and looked up the road for
>3 hours and never saw him.... gimmie a break...jeez!!!
>
>hehe
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>he said "3 hours up the road from you"...sheesh. i think you need to
>>decompress a little.
>>
>>On 17 Jun 2006 04:04:13 +1000, "John" <no@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>where are you at?
>>
Re: Compression test [message #69415 is a reply to message #69388] Sat, 17 June 2006 01:57 Go to previous message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
damn...if i had read these first i wouldn't have posted the
other...apology accepted.

On 17 Jun 2006 08:38:45 +1000, "john" <no@no.com> wrote:

>
>oops, sorry
Previous Topic: Can't see a partition in Win98SE
Next Topic: Porting Mac OS 10 VST plugins back to OS 9?
Goto Forum:
  


Current Time: Thu Dec 05 04:59:18 PST 2024

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.09322 seconds