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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82574 is a reply to message #82571] |
Tue, 03 April 2007 15:28   |
excelav
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TCB
At least Apple doesn't steal from others, and then turn around and sue when
somebody copies their products. You don't see Apple suing their resellers,
or under privileged kids and their single parent mothers.
This is just more typical Microsoft greed! Boo hoo hoo, MS didn't get as
much per copy, boo hoo hoo!
Next you'll hear how Gates, the wonderful philanthropist, gave money (bribed)
a south american country to make sure MS products and thinking are taught
in their schools, and used by their government and people.
Let me know when Debian is ready for prime time. That means, easy to install,
easy to maintain, and runs all the major commercial softwares. . .Oh.
Mac OSX it is, then!
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>They're also making the way that volume licensing in general is done a massive
>PITA with Vista. M$oft claim that some outlandish percentage of pirated
copies
>of XP in particular are educational volume licenses.
>
>The good thing is that we have an alternative to this nonsense. Apple is
>extremely flexible with their resellers and actively encourages price competition
>to get customers the best deal possi . . . Oh.
>
>Debian it is, then.
>
>TCB
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070403/D8O9AKP80.html
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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82585 is a reply to message #82574] |
Wed, 04 April 2007 00:52 |
erlilo
Messages: 405
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James, what you're saying here about Apple is not true, as far as I can see
what they're doing many places here in Europe. They will not follow the
guarantee laws in different countries here and is suing their resellers to
pay for the difference, if the guarantee-periode is longer than their own. I
know different resellers in Norway will not sell Apple products anymore just
because of these problems, when reparations over a year have eaten up more
than their whole sellingprofitt on Appleproducts. So the other side of the
Apple name is not as glorious as your believings about the firm;-)
Erling
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:4612d4f2$1@linux...
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> TCB
>
> At least Apple doesn't steal from others, and then turn around and sue
> when
> somebody copies their products. You don't see Apple suing their
> resellers,
> or under privileged kids and their single parent mothers.
>
> This is just more typical Microsoft greed! Boo hoo hoo, MS didn't get as
> much per copy, boo hoo hoo!
>
> Next you'll hear how Gates, the wonderful philanthropist, gave money
> (bribed)
> a south american country to make sure MS products and thinking are taught
> in their schools, and used by their government and people.
>
> Let me know when Debian is ready for prime time. That means, easy to
> install,
> easy to maintain, and runs all the major commercial softwares. . .Oh.
>
> Mac OSX it is, then!
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>They're also making the way that volume licensing in general is done a
>>massive
>>PITA with Vista. M$oft claim that some outlandish percentage of pirated
> copies
>>of XP in particular are educational volume licenses.
>>
>>The good thing is that we have an alternative to this nonsense. Apple is
>>extremely flexible with their resellers and actively encourages price
>>competition
>>to get customers the best deal possi . . . Oh.
>>
>>Debian it is, then.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070403/D8O9AKP80.html
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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82596 is a reply to message #82574] |
Wed, 04 April 2007 07:55 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
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Debian is usually easy to install, incredibly easy to maintain (with a GUI
called Synaptic if you don't want to type two lines in a terminal window)
with the best packaging system on planet earth, and runs pretty much every
kind of 'professional' software on earth, including desktop productivity
apps and every kind of web, routing, DNS, etc. and so forth server in the
world. In fact, other than pro audio and video software there's nothing Debian
can't do that any other platform can. That's ready for prime time in my book,
and you're not locked into a greedy hardware and/or software company. So
it's more than ready for prime time.
TCB
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>TCB
>
>At least Apple doesn't steal from others, and then turn around and sue
when
>somebody copies their products. You don't see Apple suing their resellers,
>or under privileged kids and their single parent mothers.
>
>This is just more typical Microsoft greed! Boo hoo hoo, MS didn't get as
>much per copy, boo hoo hoo!
>
>Next you'll hear how Gates, the wonderful philanthropist, gave money (bribed)
>a south american country to make sure MS products and thinking are taught
>in their schools, and used by their government and people.
>
>Let me know when Debian is ready for prime time. That means, easy to install,
>easy to maintain, and runs all the major commercial softwares. . .Oh.
>
>Mac OSX it is, then!
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>>They're also making the way that volume licensing in general is done a
massive
>>PITA with Vista. M$oft claim that some outlandish percentage of pirated
>copies
>>of XP in particular are educational volume licenses.
>>
>>The good thing is that we have an alternative to this nonsense. Apple is
>>extremely flexible with their resellers and actively encourages price competition
>>to get customers the best deal possi . . . Oh.
>>
>>Debian it is, then.
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070403/D8O9AKP80.html
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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82604 is a reply to message #82596] |
Wed, 04 April 2007 10:26 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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When it can do commercial AV software, let me know.
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>Debian is usually easy to install, incredibly easy to maintain (with a GUI
>called Synaptic if you don't want to type two lines in a terminal window)
>with the best packaging system on planet earth, and runs pretty much every
>kind of 'professional' software on earth, including desktop productivity
>apps and every kind of web, routing, DNS, etc. and so forth server in the
>world. In fact, other than pro audio and video software there's nothing
Debian
>can't do that any other platform can. That's ready for prime time in my
book,
>and you're not locked into a greedy hardware and/or software company. So
>it's more than ready for prime time.
>
>TCB
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>At least Apple doesn't steal from others, and then turn around and sue
>when
>>somebody copies their products. You don't see Apple suing their resellers,
>>or under privileged kids and their single parent mothers.
>>
>>This is just more typical Microsoft greed! Boo hoo hoo, MS didn't get
as
>>much per copy, boo hoo hoo!
>>
>>Next you'll hear how Gates, the wonderful philanthropist, gave money (bribed)
>>a south american country to make sure MS products and thinking are taught
>>in their schools, and used by their government and people.
>>
>>Let me know when Debian is ready for prime time. That means, easy to install,
>>easy to maintain, and runs all the major commercial softwares. . .Oh.
>>
>>Mac OSX it is, then!
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>They're also making the way that volume licensing in general is done a
>massive
>>>PITA with Vista. M$oft claim that some outlandish percentage of pirated
>>copies
>>>of XP in particular are educational volume licenses.
>>>
>>>The good thing is that we have an alternative to this nonsense. Apple
is
>>>extremely flexible with their resellers and actively encourages price
competition
>>>to get customers the best deal possi . . . Oh.
>>>
>>>Debian it is, then.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070403/D8O9AKP80.html
>>>
>>
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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82606 is a reply to message #82585] |
Wed, 04 April 2007 10:30 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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if the guarantee-periode is longer than their own. I
> know different resellers in Norway will not sell Apple products anymore
> just because of these problems, when reparations over a year have eaten up
> more than their whole sellingprofitt on Appleproducts
Wait!!!............if Apple computers are so reliable then in order for
repairs over a year period to eat up .......oh!
;o)
"erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote in message news:46135a77@linux...
> James, what you're saying here about Apple is not true, as far as I can
> see what they're doing many places here in Europe. They will not follow
> the guarantee laws in different countries here and is suing their
> resellers to pay for the difference, if the guarantee-periode is longer
> than their own. I know different resellers in Norway will not sell Apple
> products anymore just because of these problems, when reparations over a
> year have eaten up more than their whole sellingprofitt on Appleproducts.
> So the other side of the Apple name is not as glorious as your believings
> about the firm;-)
>
> Erling
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:4612d4f2$1@linux...
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> At least Apple doesn't steal from others, and then turn around and sue
>> when
>> somebody copies their products. You don't see Apple suing their
>> resellers,
>> or under privileged kids and their single parent mothers.
>>
>> This is just more typical Microsoft greed! Boo hoo hoo, MS didn't get as
>> much per copy, boo hoo hoo!
>>
>> Next you'll hear how Gates, the wonderful philanthropist, gave money
>> (bribed)
>> a south american country to make sure MS products and thinking are taught
>> in their schools, and used by their government and people.
>>
>> Let me know when Debian is ready for prime time. That means, easy to
>> install,
>> easy to maintain, and runs all the major commercial softwares. . .Oh.
>>
>> Mac OSX it is, then!
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>They're also making the way that volume licensing in general is done a
>>>massive
>>>PITA with Vista. M$oft claim that some outlandish percentage of pirated
>> copies
>>>of XP in particular are educational volume licenses.
>>>
>>>The good thing is that we have an alternative to this nonsense. Apple is
>>>extremely flexible with their resellers and actively encourages price
>>>competition
>>>to get customers the best deal possi . . . Oh.
>>>
>>>Debian it is, then.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070403/D8O9AKP80.html
>>>
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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82608 is a reply to message #82585] |
Wed, 04 April 2007 10:40 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Apple at one time had life time warranties on their products. The other computer
manufactures had short limited warranties, and lower prices. Apple lost
sales to other manufactures that had lesser warranties. These warranties
were acceptable to people. The other companies set the standard. It was
costing Apple a lot of money to have life time warranties, so now Apple is
going by the industry standard.
Are their suits against Dell, HP, Toshiba, Sony, or just Apple? They have
basically the same warranty.
It's new to me. Post some info on these law suits.
James
"erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>James, what you're saying here about Apple is not true, as far as I can
see
>what they're doing many places here in Europe. They will not follow the
>guarantee laws in different countries here and is suing their resellers
to
>pay for the difference, if the guarantee-periode is longer than their own.
I
>know different resellers in Norway will not sell Apple products anymore
just
>because of these problems, when reparations over a year have eaten up more
>than their whole sellingprofitt on Appleproducts. So the other side of the
>Apple name is not as glorious as your believings about the firm;-)
>
>Erling
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:4612d4f2$1@linux...
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> At least Apple doesn't steal from others, and then turn around and sue
>> when
>> somebody copies their products. You don't see Apple suing their
>> resellers,
>> or under privileged kids and their single parent mothers.
>>
>> This is just more typical Microsoft greed! Boo hoo hoo, MS didn't get
as
>> much per copy, boo hoo hoo!
>>
>> Next you'll hear how Gates, the wonderful philanthropist, gave money
>> (bribed)
>> a south american country to make sure MS products and thinking are taught
>> in their schools, and used by their government and people.
>>
>> Let me know when Debian is ready for prime time. That means, easy to
>> install,
>> easy to maintain, and runs all the major commercial softwares. . .Oh.
>>
>> Mac OSX it is, then!
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>They're also making the way that volume licensing in general is done a
>>>massive
>>>PITA with Vista. M$oft claim that some outlandish percentage of pirated
>> copies
>>>of XP in particular are educational volume licenses.
>>>
>>>The good thing is that we have an alternative to this nonsense. Apple
is
>>>extremely flexible with their resellers and actively encourages price
>>>competition
>>>to get customers the best deal possi . . . Oh.
>>>
>>>Debian it is, then.
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070403/D8O9AKP80.html
>>>
>>
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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82610 is a reply to message #82608] |
Wed, 04 April 2007 11:55 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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Don't know and don't care. I build my own computers that do the things that
I want them to do. They're cheap, the parts can be replaced or interchanged
and since they've basically got my name on them rather than someone else's,
it's my own fault if they crap out 99.9999% of the time.
The genius bar around here is a banquet table covered with gadgets, a SenFu
test bench with a PSU sitting on it, a monitor, keyboard, mouse and some
other crap with a power strip velcroed to one end of it.
If I get hosed, it's usually self induced.
;o)
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4613e2f1$1@linux...
>
> Apple at one time had life time warranties on their products. The other
> computer
> manufactures had short limited warranties, and lower prices. Apple lost
> sales to other manufactures that had lesser warranties. These warranties
> were acceptable to people. The other companies set the standard. It was
> costing Apple a lot of money to have life time warranties, so now Apple is
> going by the industry standard.
>
> Are their suits against Dell, HP, Toshiba, Sony, or just Apple? They have
> basically the same warranty.
>
> It's new to me. Post some info on these law suits.
>
> James
>
> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>James, what you're saying here about Apple is not true, as far as I can
> see
>>what they're doing many places here in Europe. They will not follow the
>
>>guarantee laws in different countries here and is suing their resellers
> to
>>pay for the difference, if the guarantee-periode is longer than their own.
> I
>>know different resellers in Norway will not sell Apple products anymore
> just
>>because of these problems, when reparations over a year have eaten up more
>
>>than their whole sellingprofitt on Appleproducts. So the other side of the
>
>>Apple name is not as glorious as your believings about the firm;-)
>>
>>Erling
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>news:4612d4f2$1@linux...
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> At least Apple doesn't steal from others, and then turn around and sue
>
>>> when
>>> somebody copies their products. You don't see Apple suing their
>>> resellers,
>>> or under privileged kids and their single parent mothers.
>>>
>>> This is just more typical Microsoft greed! Boo hoo hoo, MS didn't get
> as
>>> much per copy, boo hoo hoo!
>>>
>>> Next you'll hear how Gates, the wonderful philanthropist, gave money
>>> (bribed)
>>> a south american country to make sure MS products and thinking are
>>> taught
>>> in their schools, and used by their government and people.
>>>
>>> Let me know when Debian is ready for prime time. That means, easy to
>
>>> install,
>>> easy to maintain, and runs all the major commercial softwares. . .Oh.
>>>
>>> Mac OSX it is, then!
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>They're also making the way that volume licensing in general is done a
>
>>>>massive
>>>>PITA with Vista. M$oft claim that some outlandish percentage of pirated
>>> copies
>>>>of XP in particular are educational volume licenses.
>>>>
>>>>The good thing is that we have an alternative to this nonsense. Apple
> is
>>>>extremely flexible with their resellers and actively encourages price
>
>>>>competition
>>>>to get customers the best deal possi . . . Oh.
>>>>
>>>>Debian it is, then.
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070403/D8O9AKP80.html
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82612 is a reply to message #82610] |
Wed, 04 April 2007 12:17 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Hey, what ever your in to. The post was to say watch who and what you buy,
the license may not be honored. Also, that MS is still doing this kind of
thing. If you want to keep supporting them, that's up to you.
James
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Don't know and don't care. I build my own computers that do the things that
>I want them to do. They're cheap, the parts can be replaced or interchanged
>and since they've basically got my name on them rather than someone else's,
>it's my own fault if they crap out 99.9999% of the time.
>The genius bar around here is a banquet table covered with gadgets, a SenFu
>test bench with a PSU sitting on it, a monitor, keyboard, mouse and some
>other crap with a power strip velcroed to one end of it.
>
>If I get hosed, it's usually self induced.
>
>;o)
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4613e2f1$1@linux...
>>
>> Apple at one time had life time warranties on their products. The other
>> computer
>> manufactures had short limited warranties, and lower prices. Apple lost
>> sales to other manufactures that had lesser warranties. These warranties
>> were acceptable to people. The other companies set the standard. It
was
>> costing Apple a lot of money to have life time warranties, so now Apple
is
>> going by the industry standard.
>>
>> Are their suits against Dell, HP, Toshiba, Sony, or just Apple? They
have
>> basically the same warranty.
>>
>> It's new to me. Post some info on these law suits.
>>
>> James
>>
>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>>James, what you're saying here about Apple is not true, as far as I can
>> see
>>>what they're doing many places here in Europe. They will not follow the
>>
>>>guarantee laws in different countries here and is suing their resellers
>> to
>>>pay for the difference, if the guarantee-periode is longer than their
own.
>> I
>>>know different resellers in Norway will not sell Apple products anymore
>> just
>>>because of these problems, when reparations over a year have eaten up
more
>>
>>>than their whole sellingprofitt on Appleproducts. So the other side of
the
>>
>>>Apple name is not as glorious as your believings about the firm;-)
>>>
>>>Erling
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>news:4612d4f2$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>> At least Apple doesn't steal from others, and then turn around and
sue
>>
>>>> when
>>>> somebody copies their products. You don't see Apple suing their
>>>> resellers,
>>>> or under privileged kids and their single parent mothers.
>>>>
>>>> This is just more typical Microsoft greed! Boo hoo hoo, MS didn't get
>> as
>>>> much per copy, boo hoo hoo!
>>>>
>>>> Next you'll hear how Gates, the wonderful philanthropist, gave money
>>>> (bribed)
>>>> a south american country to make sure MS products and thinking are
>>>> taught
>>>> in their schools, and used by their government and people.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know when Debian is ready for prime time. That means, easy to
>>
>>>> install,
>>>> easy to maintain, and runs all the major commercial softwares. . .Oh.
>>>>
>>>> Mac OSX it is, then!
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>They're also making the way that volume licensing in general is done
a
>>
>>>>>massive
>>>>>PITA with Vista. M$oft claim that some outlandish percentage of pirated
>>>> copies
>>>>>of XP in particular are educational volume licenses.
>>>>>
>>>>>The good thing is that we have an alternative to this nonsense. Apple
>> is
>>>>>extremely flexible with their resellers and actively encourages price
>>
>>>>>competition
>>>>>to get customers the best deal possi . . . Oh.
>>>>>
>>>>>Debian it is, then.
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070403/D8O9AKP80.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82618 is a reply to message #82608] |
Wed, 04 April 2007 14:42 |
erlilo
Messages: 405
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In Scandinavia, electrical products must have 2 years warranties to get sold
but Apple wouldn't follow these rules at all, as far as I read in Norwegian
newspapers a few months ago. Understandable, the Apple way, when plenty of
Ipod's began to get problems after a year, but great problems for Norwegian
resellers that couldn't get paid for these reparations at all from Apple. So
what Apple is saying about warranties and what they're doing around the
world are just two different thing, as far as I can see.
....for me, it says much about Apple and their quality, when reading these
kind of things;-)...
Erling
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:4613e2f1$1@linux...
>
> Apple at one time had life time warranties on their products. The other
> computer
> manufactures had short limited warranties, and lower prices. Apple lost
> sales to other manufactures that had lesser warranties. These warranties
> were acceptable to people. The other companies set the standard. It was
> costing Apple a lot of money to have life time warranties, so now Apple is
> going by the industry standard.
>
> Are their suits against Dell, HP, Toshiba, Sony, or just Apple? They have
> basically the same warranty.
>
> It's new to me. Post some info on these law suits.
>
> James
>
> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>James, what you're saying here about Apple is not true, as far as I can
> see
>>what they're doing many places here in Europe. They will not follow the
>
>>guarantee laws in different countries here and is suing their resellers
> to
>>pay for the difference, if the guarantee-periode is longer than their own.
> I
>>know different resellers in Norway will not sell Apple products anymore
> just
>>because of these problems, when reparations over a year have eaten up more
>
>>than their whole sellingprofitt on Appleproducts. So the other side of the
>
>>Apple name is not as glorious as your believings about the firm;-)
>>
>>Erling
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>news:4612d4f2$1@linux...
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> At least Apple doesn't steal from others, and then turn around and sue
>
>>> when
>>> somebody copies their products. You don't see Apple suing their
>>> resellers,
>>> or under privileged kids and their single parent mothers.
>>>
>>> This is just more typical Microsoft greed! Boo hoo hoo, MS didn't get
> as
>>> much per copy, boo hoo hoo!
>>>
>>> Next you'll hear how Gates, the wonderful philanthropist, gave money
>>> (bribed)
>>> a south american country to make sure MS products and thinking are
>>> taught
>>> in their schools, and used by their government and people.
>>>
>>> Let me know when Debian is ready for prime time. That means, easy to
>
>>> install,
>>> easy to maintain, and runs all the major commercial softwares. . .Oh.
>>>
>>> Mac OSX it is, then!
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>They're also making the way that volume licensing in general is done a
>
>>>>massive
>>>>PITA with Vista. M$oft claim that some outlandish percentage of pirated
>>> copies
>>>>of XP in particular are educational volume licenses.
>>>>
>>>>The good thing is that we have an alternative to this nonsense. Apple
> is
>>>>extremely flexible with their resellers and actively encourages price
>
>>>>competition
>>>>to get customers the best deal possi . . . Oh.
>>>>
>>>>Debian it is, then.
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070403/D8O9AKP80.html
>>>>
>>>
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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82621 is a reply to message #82610] |
Wed, 04 April 2007 15:52 |
erlilo
Messages: 405
Registered: June 2005
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The same here, Doug. Built my own PC's the last 10 years without much
problems at all. Have built plenty for friends and family too with ultrafew
problems. Plenty of Scandinavian crowns saved on these things. Jobs should
not get a penny at all from me;-)
Erling
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:4613f5cd$1@linux...
> Don't know and don't care. I build my own computers that do the things
> that I want them to do. They're cheap, the parts can be replaced or
> interchanged and since they've basically got my name on them rather than
> someone else's, it's my own fault if they crap out 99.9999% of the time.
> The genius bar around here is a banquet table covered with gadgets, a
> SenFu test bench with a PSU sitting on it, a monitor, keyboard, mouse and
> some other crap with a power strip velcroed to one end of it.
>
> If I get hosed, it's usually self induced.
>
> ;o)
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4613e2f1$1@linux...
>>
>> Apple at one time had life time warranties on their products. The other
>> computer
>> manufactures had short limited warranties, and lower prices. Apple lost
>> sales to other manufactures that had lesser warranties. These warranties
>> were acceptable to people. The other companies set the standard. It was
>> costing Apple a lot of money to have life time warranties, so now Apple
>> is
>> going by the industry standard.
>>
>> Are their suits against Dell, HP, Toshiba, Sony, or just Apple? They
>> have
>> basically the same warranty.
>>
>> It's new to me. Post some info on these law suits.
>>
>> James
>>
>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>>James, what you're saying here about Apple is not true, as far as I can
>> see
>>>what they're doing many places here in Europe. They will not follow the
>>
>>>guarantee laws in different countries here and is suing their resellers
>> to
>>>pay for the difference, if the guarantee-periode is longer than their
>>>own.
>> I
>>>know different resellers in Norway will not sell Apple products anymore
>> just
>>>because of these problems, when reparations over a year have eaten up
>>>more
>>
>>>than their whole sellingprofitt on Appleproducts. So the other side of
>>>the
>>
>>>Apple name is not as glorious as your believings about the firm;-)
>>>
>>>Erling
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>news:4612d4f2$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>> At least Apple doesn't steal from others, and then turn around and sue
>>
>>>> when
>>>> somebody copies their products. You don't see Apple suing their
>>>> resellers,
>>>> or under privileged kids and their single parent mothers.
>>>>
>>>> This is just more typical Microsoft greed! Boo hoo hoo, MS didn't get
>> as
>>>> much per copy, boo hoo hoo!
>>>>
>>>> Next you'll hear how Gates, the wonderful philanthropist, gave money
>>>> (bribed)
>>>> a south american country to make sure MS products and thinking are
>>>> taught
>>>> in their schools, and used by their government and people.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know when Debian is ready for prime time. That means, easy to
>>
>>>> install,
>>>> easy to maintain, and runs all the major commercial softwares. . .Oh.
>>>>
>>>> Mac OSX it is, then!
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>They're also making the way that volume licensing in general is done a
>>
>>>>>massive
>>>>>PITA with Vista. M$oft claim that some outlandish percentage of pirated
>>>> copies
>>>>>of XP in particular are educational volume licenses.
>>>>>
>>>>>The good thing is that we have an alternative to this nonsense. Apple
>> is
>>>>>extremely flexible with their resellers and actively encourages price
>>
>>>>>competition
>>>>>to get customers the best deal possi . . . Oh.
>>>>>
>>>>>Debian it is, then.
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070403/D8O9AKP80.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82624 is a reply to message #82618] |
Wed, 04 April 2007 16:33 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Apple has a standard warranty which is about the same as other manufactures.
Apple also has a 3 year extended warranty that can be purchased at the time
of sale, and up to 12 months after the sale on the product. The buyer should
know this, and every Apple dealer knows this in advance of any sale, so I
don't see how they can complain.
So let see some news articles on this subject. I think I can smell some
bullshit on this one.
By the way the post was about MS!
"erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>In Scandinavia, electrical products must have 2 years warranties to get
sold
>but Apple wouldn't follow these rules at all, as far as I read in Norwegian
>newspapers a few months ago. Understandable, the Apple way, when plenty
of
>Ipod's began to get problems after a year, but great problems for Norwegian
>resellers that couldn't get paid for these reparations at all from Apple.
So
>what Apple is saying about warranties and what they're doing around the
>world are just two different thing, as far as I can see.
>...for me, it says much about Apple and their quality, when reading these
>kind of things;-)...
>
>Erling
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:4613e2f1$1@linux...
>>
>> Apple at one time had life time warranties on their products. The other
>> computer
>> manufactures had short limited warranties, and lower prices. Apple lost
>> sales to other manufactures that had lesser warranties. These warranties
>> were acceptable to people. The other companies set the standard. It
was
>> costing Apple a lot of money to have life time warranties, so now Apple
is
>> going by the industry standard.
>>
>> Are their suits against Dell, HP, Toshiba, Sony, or just Apple? They
have
>> basically the same warranty.
>>
>> It's new to me. Post some info on these law suits.
>>
>> James
>>
>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>>James, what you're saying here about Apple is not true, as far as I can
>> see
>>>what they're doing many places here in Europe. They will not follow the
>>
>>>guarantee laws in different countries here and is suing their resellers
>> to
>>>pay for the difference, if the guarantee-periode is longer than their
own.
>> I
>>>know different resellers in Norway will not sell Apple products anymore
>> just
>>>because of these problems, when reparations over a year have eaten up
more
>>
>>>than their whole sellingprofitt on Appleproducts. So the other side of
the
>>
>>>Apple name is not as glorious as your believings about the firm;-)
>>>
>>>Erling
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>news:4612d4f2$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>> At least Apple doesn't steal from others, and then turn around and
sue
>>
>>>> when
>>>> somebody copies their products. You don't see Apple suing their
>>>> resellers,
>>>> or under privileged kids and their single parent mothers.
>>>>
>>>> This is just more typical Microsoft greed! Boo hoo hoo, MS didn't get
>> as
>>>> much per copy, boo hoo hoo!
>>>>
>>>> Next you'll hear how Gates, the wonderful philanthropist, gave money
>>>> (bribed)
>>>> a south american country to make sure MS products and thinking are
>>>> taught
>>>> in their schools, and used by their government and people.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know when Debian is ready for prime time. That means, easy to
>>
>>>> install,
>>>> easy to maintain, and runs all the major commercial softwares. . .Oh.
>>>>
>>>> Mac OSX it is, then!
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>They're also making the way that volume licensing in general is done
a
>>
>>>>>massive
>>>>>PITA with Vista. M$oft claim that some outlandish percentage of pirated
>>>> copies
>>>>>of XP in particular are educational volume licenses.
>>>>>
>>>>>The good thing is that we have an alternative to this nonsense. Apple
>> is
>>>>>extremely flexible with their resellers and actively encourages price
>>
>>>>>competition
>>>>>to get customers the best deal possi . . . Oh.
>>>>>
>>>>>Debian it is, then.
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070403/D8O9AKP80.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82626 is a reply to message #82618] |
Wed, 04 April 2007 16:38 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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You don't like Apple. So now your true colors are shining through, and I
can clearly see the ax you have to grind.
This post was about MS. So show me where Apple was suing Norwegian dealers!
"erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>In Scandinavia, electrical products must have 2 years warranties to get
sold
>but Apple wouldn't follow these rules at all, as far as I read in Norwegian
>newspapers a few months ago. Understandable, the Apple way, when plenty
of
>Ipod's began to get problems after a year, but great problems for Norwegian
>resellers that couldn't get paid for these reparations at all from Apple.
So
>what Apple is saying about warranties and what they're doing around the
>world are just two different thing, as far as I can see.
>...for me, it says much about Apple and their quality, when reading these
>kind of things;-)...
>
>Erling
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:4613e2f1$1@linux...
>>
>> Apple at one time had life time warranties on their products. The other
>> computer
>> manufactures had short limited warranties, and lower prices. Apple lost
>> sales to other manufactures that had lesser warranties. These warranties
>> were acceptable to people. The other companies set the standard. It
was
>> costing Apple a lot of money to have life time warranties, so now Apple
is
>> going by the industry standard.
>>
>> Are their suits against Dell, HP, Toshiba, Sony, or just Apple? They
have
>> basically the same warranty.
>>
>> It's new to me. Post some info on these law suits.
>>
>> James
>>
>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>>James, what you're saying here about Apple is not true, as far as I can
>> see
>>>what they're doing many places here in Europe. They will not follow the
>>
>>>guarantee laws in different countries here and is suing their resellers
>> to
>>>pay for the difference, if the guarantee-periode is longer than their
own.
>> I
>>>know different resellers in Norway will not sell Apple products anymore
>> just
>>>because of these problems, when reparations over a year have eaten up
more
>>
>>>than their whole sellingprofitt on Appleproducts. So the other side of
the
>>
>>>Apple name is not as glorious as your believings about the firm;-)
>>>
>>>Erling
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>news:4612d4f2$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> TCB
>>>>
>>>> At least Apple doesn't steal from others, and then turn around and
sue
>>
>>>> when
>>>> somebody copies their products. You don't see Apple suing their
>>>> resellers,
>>>> or under privileged kids and their single parent mothers.
>>>>
>>>> This is just more typical Microsoft greed! Boo hoo hoo, MS didn't get
>> as
>>>> much per copy, boo hoo hoo!
>>>>
>>>> Next you'll hear how Gates, the wonderful philanthropist, gave money
>>>> (bribed)
>>>> a south american country to make sure MS products and thinking are
>>>> taught
>>>> in their schools, and used by their government and people.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know when Debian is ready for prime time. That means, easy to
>>
>>>> install,
>>>> easy to maintain, and runs all the major commercial softwares. . .Oh.
>>>>
>>>> Mac OSX it is, then!
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>They're also making the way that volume licensing in general is done
a
>>
>>>>>massive
>>>>>PITA with Vista. M$oft claim that some outlandish percentage of pirated
>>>> copies
>>>>>of XP in particular are educational volume licenses.
>>>>>
>>>>>The good thing is that we have an alternative to this nonsense. Apple
>> is
>>>>>extremely flexible with their resellers and actively encourages price
>>
>>>>>competition
>>>>>to get customers the best deal possi . . . Oh.
>>>>>
>>>>>Debian it is, then.
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070403/D8O9AKP80.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82647 is a reply to message #82626] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 00:28 |
erlilo
Messages: 405
Registered: June 2005
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As far as I can see, Apple will only give a year guarantee on their Ipods in
Norway, when the law says two. There have been plenty of reparation on the
product in these two years periode, well documented here in Norway, as far
as I can read and understand Norwegian newspapers;-) When resellers can't
get paid for the last years reparations by Apple, I can't find another word
that they're suing the dealers here. Can't you see that a product that's so
expensive should be free for problems the first 2 years, or is it too holy
for you to talk about when the name Apple is being involved in shit like
these;-)?
I like Apple computers very well but not well enough to buy something that's
so overprized without taking care of resellers and customers in a good way,
if it must be repaired.
So I don't think your feelings about Apple should run away as often as
they're doing here with you, when someone are talking about well documented
problems they have;-) When the name "Apple" is making a form for religious
feelings like these, I must say they have done and is doing reall good
marketing "jobs" in selling well overpriced products from "Jobs" around the
whole world;-)
Maybe therefor, I'm very comfortable with most of my Behringer gear, that's
doing the "jobs" well, without going up in fire at all.(As Deej can tell
much about;-)) I must say, I haven't had a single reparation yet on any of
my Behringer gear. (Maybe I have been more lucky than Deej with the damn
cheap shit;-))
Erling
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:461436fe$1@linux...
>
> You don't like Apple. So now your true colors are shining through, and I
> can clearly see the ax you have to grind.
>
> This post was about MS. So show me where Apple was suing Norwegian
> dealers!
>
>
> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>In Scandinavia, electrical products must have 2 years warranties to get
> sold
>>but Apple wouldn't follow these rules at all, as far as I read in
>>Norwegian
>
>>newspapers a few months ago. Understandable, the Apple way, when plenty
> of
>>Ipod's began to get problems after a year, but great problems for
>>Norwegian
>
>>resellers that couldn't get paid for these reparations at all from Apple.
> So
>>what Apple is saying about warranties and what they're doing around the
>
>>world are just two different thing, as far as I can see.
>>...for me, it says much about Apple and their quality, when reading these
>
>>kind of things;-)...
>>
>>Erling
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>news:4613e2f1$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Apple at one time had life time warranties on their products. The other
>
>>> computer
>>> manufactures had short limited warranties, and lower prices. Apple lost
>>> sales to other manufactures that had lesser warranties. These
>>> warranties
>>> were acceptable to people. The other companies set the standard. It
> was
>>> costing Apple a lot of money to have life time warranties, so now Apple
> is
>>> going by the industry standard.
>>>
>>> Are their suits against Dell, HP, Toshiba, Sony, or just Apple? They
> have
>>> basically the same warranty.
>>>
>>> It's new to me. Post some info on these law suits.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>>>James, what you're saying here about Apple is not true, as far as I can
>>> see
>>>>what they're doing many places here in Europe. They will not follow the
>>>
>>>>guarantee laws in different countries here and is suing their resellers
>>> to
>>>>pay for the difference, if the guarantee-periode is longer than their
> own.
>>> I
>>>>know different resellers in Norway will not sell Apple products anymore
>>> just
>>>>because of these problems, when reparations over a year have eaten up
> more
>>>
>>>>than their whole sellingprofitt on Appleproducts. So the other side of
> the
>>>
>>>>Apple name is not as glorious as your believings about the firm;-)
>>>>
>>>>Erling
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>news:4612d4f2$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> TCB
>>>>>
>>>>> At least Apple doesn't steal from others, and then turn around and
> sue
>>>
>>>>> when
>>>>> somebody copies their products. You don't see Apple suing their
>>>>> resellers,
>>>>> or under privileged kids and their single parent mothers.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is just more typical Microsoft greed! Boo hoo hoo, MS didn't get
>>> as
>>>>> much per copy, boo hoo hoo!
>>>>>
>>>>> Next you'll hear how Gates, the wonderful philanthropist, gave money
>>>>> (bribed)
>>>>> a south american country to make sure MS products and thinking are
>>>>> taught
>>>>> in their schools, and used by their government and people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know when Debian is ready for prime time. That means, easy to
>>>
>>>>> install,
>>>>> easy to maintain, and runs all the major commercial softwares. . .Oh.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mac OSX it is, then!
>>>>>
>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They're also making the way that volume licensing in general is done
> a
>>>
>>>>>>massive
>>>>>>PITA with Vista. M$oft claim that some outlandish percentage of
>>>>>>pirated
>>>>> copies
>>>>>>of XP in particular are educational volume licenses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The good thing is that we have an alternative to this nonsense. Apple
>>> is
>>>>>>extremely flexible with their resellers and actively encourages price
>>>
>>>>>>competition
>>>>>>to get customers the best deal possi . . . Oh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Debian it is, then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070403/D8O9AKP80.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82661 is a reply to message #82647] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 10:45 |
excelav
Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit
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Senior Member |
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Over priced is a matter of opinion. Apple offers a 3 year warranty. It's
a choice to buy the warranty or not. The dealers know this, so they don't
have much room to cry about this. Apple sets the terms of sale and the
terms of their warranty, if you don't like it you don't have to buy their
products!
Apple is having the iPod manufactured in the same foxcon plant everybody
else is, so the quality should be about the same.
So if it so documented, post a link!
"erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>As far as I can see, Apple will only give a year guarantee on their Ipods
in
>Norway, when the law says two. There have been plenty of reparation on the
>product in these two years periode, well documented here in Norway, as far
>as I can read and understand Norwegian newspapers;-) When resellers can't
>get paid for the last years reparations by Apple, I can't find another word
>that they're suing the dealers here. Can't you see that a product that's
so
>expensive should be free for problems the first 2 years, or is it too holy
>for you to talk about when the name Apple is being involved in shit like
>these;-)?
>I like Apple computers very well but not well enough to buy something that's
>so overprized without taking care of resellers and customers in a good way,
>if it must be repaired.
>So I don't think your feelings about Apple should run away as often as
>they're doing here with you, when someone are talking about well documented
>problems they have;-) When the name "Apple" is making a form for religious
>feelings like these, I must say they have done and is doing reall good
>marketing "jobs" in selling well overpriced products from "Jobs" around
the
>whole world;-)
>Maybe therefor, I'm very comfortable with most of my Behringer gear, that's
>doing the "jobs" well, without going up in fire at all.(As Deej can tell
>much about;-)) I must say, I haven't had a single reparation yet on any
of
>my Behringer gear. (Maybe I have been more lucky than Deej with the damn
>cheap shit;-))
>
>Erling
>
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:461436fe$1@linux...
>>
>> You don't like Apple. So now your true colors are shining through, and
I
>> can clearly see the ax you have to grind.
>>
>> This post was about MS. So show me where Apple was suing Norwegian
>> dealers!
>>
>>
>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>>In Scandinavia, electrical products must have 2 years warranties to get
>> sold
>>>but Apple wouldn't follow these rules at all, as far as I read in
>>>Norwegian
>>
>>>newspapers a few months ago. Understandable, the Apple way, when plenty
>> of
>>>Ipod's began to get problems after a year, but great problems for
>>>Norwegian
>>
>>>resellers that couldn't get paid for these reparations at all from Apple.
>> So
>>>what Apple is saying about warranties and what they're doing around the
>>
>>>world are just two different thing, as far as I can see.
>>>...for me, it says much about Apple and their quality, when reading these
>>
>>>kind of things;-)...
>>>
>>>Erling
>>>
>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>news:4613e2f1$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Apple at one time had life time warranties on their products. The other
>>
>>>> computer
>>>> manufactures had short limited warranties, and lower prices. Apple
lost
>>>> sales to other manufactures that had lesser warranties. These
>>>> warranties
>>>> were acceptable to people. The other companies set the standard. It
>> was
>>>> costing Apple a lot of money to have life time warranties, so now Apple
>> is
>>>> going by the industry standard.
>>>>
>>>> Are their suits against Dell, HP, Toshiba, Sony, or just Apple? They
>> have
>>>> basically the same warranty.
>>>>
>>>> It's new to me. Post some info on these law suits.
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> "erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote:
>>>>>James, what you're saying here about Apple is not true, as far as I
can
>>>> see
>>>>>what they're doing many places here in Europe. They will not follow
the
>>>>
>>>>>guarantee laws in different countries here and is suing their resellers
>>>> to
>>>>>pay for the difference, if the guarantee-periode is longer than their
>> own.
>>>> I
>>>>>know different resellers in Norway will not sell Apple products anymore
>>>> just
>>>>>because of these problems, when reparations over a year have eaten up
>> more
>>>>
>>>>>than their whole sellingprofitt on Appleproducts. So the other side
of
>> the
>>>>
>>>>>Apple name is not as glorious as your believings about the firm;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Erling
>>>>>
>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>>>>>news:4612d4f2$1@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At least Apple doesn't steal from others, and then turn around and
>> sue
>>>>
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> somebody copies their products. You don't see Apple suing their
>>>>>> resellers,
>>>>>> or under privileged kids and their single parent mothers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is just more typical Microsoft greed! Boo hoo hoo, MS didn't
get
>>>> as
>>>>>> much per copy, boo hoo hoo!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next you'll hear how Gates, the wonderful philanthropist, gave money
>>>>>> (bribed)
>>>>>> a south american country to make sure MS products and thinking are
>>>>>> taught
>>>>>> in their schools, and used by their government and people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know when Debian is ready for prime time. That means, easy
to
>>>>
>>>>>> install,
>>>>>> easy to maintain, and runs all the major commercial softwares. . .Oh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mac OSX it is, then!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They're also making the way that volume licensing in general is done
>> a
>>>>
>>>>>>>massive
>>>>>>>PITA with Vista. M$oft claim that some outlandish percentage of
>>>>>>>pirated
>>>>>> copies
>>>>>>>of XP in particular are educational volume licenses.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The good thing is that we have an alternative to this nonsense. Apple
>>>> is
>>>>>>>extremely flexible with their resellers and actively encourages price
>>>>
>>>>>>>competition
>>>>>>>to get customers the best deal possi . . . Oh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Debian it is, then.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20070403/D8O9AKP80.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82701 is a reply to message #82669] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 14:44 |
erlilo
Messages: 405
Registered: June 2005
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Senior Member |
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Here's what one of the "big" Norwegian resellers, "Hifi-Klubben", said about
Apple's customerservice in Norway a few months ago. They have stopped their
Ipod sale just because Apple will not follow Norwegian customerservice-laws
on these kind of products.
If you don't trust my earlier words, James, it's up to you to get the
article translated;-)
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=133909
The article was showing up in most of the serious Norwegian newspapers.
Erling
"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:46153fea$1@linux...
>
> No, Erling claim that Apple is suing Apple dealers in Norway. I think he
> is confused, it's more likely that it's the other way around. Everybody
> is trying to cash in on Apple's success, by suing them.
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>if what is documented? Behringers tech support?
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:461503ac@linux...
>>>
>>>> Maybe therefor, I'm very comfortable with most of my Behringer gear,
>
>>>> that's
>>>> doing the "jobs" well, without going up in fire at all.(As Deej can
>>>> tell
>
>>>> much about;-)) I must say, I haven't had a single reparation yet on
> any
>>>> of my Behringer gear. (Maybe I have been more lucky than Deej with the
>
>>>> damn cheap shit;-))
>>>>
>>>> Erling
>>>
>>> Heh!!!.........I'll say this for Behringer......their tech support
>>> people
>
>>> are friendly and not arrogant at all and they don't give you any shit
> if
>>> there is *any* doubt about the product being broken. You send it in and
>
>>> they immediately ship another unit, or give you a refund.
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82710 is a reply to message #82701] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 18:24 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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>Apples garanti skal gjelde som et tillegg til norsk kjøpslov<
That's all I needed to hear. I'm thoroughly convinced!!!
;o)
"erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote in message news:46156edc@linux...
> Here's what one of the "big" Norwegian resellers, "Hifi-Klubben", said
> about Apple's customerservice in Norway a few months ago. They have
> stopped their Ipod sale just because Apple will not follow Norwegian
> customerservice-laws on these kind of products.
> If you don't trust my earlier words, James, it's up to you to get the
> article translated;-)
> http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=133909
>
> The article was showing up in most of the serious Norwegian newspapers.
>
> Erling
>
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:46153fea$1@linux...
>>
>> No, Erling claim that Apple is suing Apple dealers in Norway. I think he
>> is confused, it's more likely that it's the other way around. Everybody
>> is trying to cash in on Apple's success, by suing them.
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>if what is documented? Behringers tech support?
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:461503ac@linux...
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe therefor, I'm very comfortable with most of my Behringer gear,
>>
>>>>> that's
>>>>> doing the "jobs" well, without going up in fire at all.(As Deej can
>>>>> tell
>>
>>>>> much about;-)) I must say, I haven't had a single reparation yet on
>> any
>>>>> of my Behringer gear. (Maybe I have been more lucky than Deej with the
>>
>>>>> damn cheap shit;-))
>>>>>
>>>>> Erling
>>>>
>>>> Heh!!!.........I'll say this for Behringer......their tech support
>>>> people
>>
>>>> are friendly and not arrogant at all and they don't give you any shit
>> if
>>>> there is *any* doubt about the product being broken. You send it in and
>>
>>>> they immediately ship another unit, or give you a refund.
>>>> ;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: Microsoft Sues Software Sellers [message #82711 is a reply to message #82710] |
Thu, 05 April 2007 20:52 |
Ted Gerber
Messages: 705
Registered: January 2009
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Senior Member |
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Guess it's all about the timing, but I can't stop giggling at this...
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>Apples garanti skal gjelde som et tillegg til norsk kjøpslov<
>
>That's all I needed to hear. I'm thoroughly convinced!!!
>
>;o)
>
>
>"erlilo" <erlingl@tdcadsl.dk> wrote in message news:46156edc@linux...
>> Here's what one of the "big" Norwegian resellers, "Hifi-Klubben", said
>> about Apple's customerservice in Norway a few months ago. They have
>> stopped their Ipod sale just because Apple will not follow Norwegian
>> customerservice-laws on these kind of products.
>> If you don't trust my earlier words, James, it's up to you to get the
>> article translated;-)
>> http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=133909
>>
>> The article was showing up in most of the serious Norwegian newspapers.
>>
>> Erling
>>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>> news:46153fea$1@linux...
>>>
>>> No, Erling claim that Apple is suing Apple dealers in Norway. I think
he
>>> is confused, it's more likely that it's the other way around. Everybody
>>> is trying to cash in on Apple's success, by suing them.
>>>
>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>if what is documented? Behringers tech support?
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:461503ac@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe therefor, I'm very comfortable with most of my Behringer gear,
>>>
>>>>>> that's
>>>>>> doing the "jobs" well, without going up in fire at all.(As Deej can
>>>>>> tell
>>>
>>>>>> much about;-)) I must say, I haven't had a single reparation yet
on
>>> any
>>>>>> of my Behringer gear. (Maybe I have been more lucky than Deej with
the
>>>
>>>>>> damn cheap shit;-))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erling
>>>>>
>>>>> Heh!!!.........I'll say this for Behringer......their tech support
>>>>> people
>>>
>>>>> are friendly and not arrogant at all and they don't give you any shit
>>> if
>>>>> there is *any* doubt about the product being broken. You send it in
and
>>>
>>>>> they immediately ship another unit, or give you a refund.
>>>>> ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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