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Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the =
writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
Here's what I'm looking at:
Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 =
Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual =
Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video =
Card-$119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
rough total: $3599.96
At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that =
*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO =
direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends =
and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe =
hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of =
PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I =
want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the Multiface =
and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and I don't =
really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if I =
can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS =
chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe =
conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but =
the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number =
of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and =
this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no =
matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a =
PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface =
PCIe anyway?
The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming down =
over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for my =
Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable of =
integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value =
on EBay).
Any thoughts?
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<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a =
few months.=20
I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there,=20
soooo......</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking at:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X =
ATX Intel=20
Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
<P><A=20
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059"=
><FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059=
</FONT></A></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield =
2.66GHz 2 x=20
4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM =
DDR2 800=20
(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB =
128-bit GDDR3 PCI=20
Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply =
115/230 V=20
UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
FONT></P><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>
<P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have a =
workable 10+ GHZ=20
system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry =
about ASIO=20
direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends =
and=20
still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe =
hardware=20
without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI =
stuff and I=20
would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista =
and run 8G=20
of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP configuration =
I've got now=20
with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the =
ADI8-DS units=20
and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe =
hardware if=20
I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS =
chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe=20
conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but =
the new=20
mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number of =
cards I want=20
to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need to =
be 64=20
bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it. So =
why=20
upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
hold all my=20
PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the move =
now (besides=20
wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's =
will be=20
coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to =
get for=20
my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable =
of=20
integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value =
on=20
EBay).</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
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| Re: I want to get 64bit/ Vista ready and have more horsepower now....soooo [message #83495 is a reply to message #83485] |
Fri, 20 April 2007 13:09  |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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No Vista! Bad Deej! No biscuit! You spend night in kennel!
TCB
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
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>
>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the =
>writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
>
>Here's what I'm looking at:
>
>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
>
>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775
=
>Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
>
>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual =
>Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
>
>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video
=
>Card-$119.99
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
>
>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
>
>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>
> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
>Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
>
>rough total: $3599.96
>
>At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that =
>*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO =
>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends
=
>and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
=
>hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of =
>PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I =
>want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>
>I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the Multiface
=
>and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and I don't
=
>really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if I =
>can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS =
>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe =
>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but =
>the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number
=
>of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and =
>this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no =
>matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a =
>PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface
=
>PCIe anyway?
>
>The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
>horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming down
=
>over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for my =
>Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable of
=
>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value =
>on EBay).
>
>Any thoughts?
>
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><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a
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>few months.=20
>I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there,=20
>soooo......</FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking at:</FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X =
>ATX Intel=20
>Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
><P><A=20
>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059"=
>><FONT=20
>face=3DArial=20
>size=3D2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059=
></FONT></A></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield =
>2.66GHz 2 x=20
>4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
>GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011=
>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
>FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM
=
>DDR2 800=20
>(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
>FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB =
>128-bit GDDR3 PCI=20
>Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
>FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply
=
>115/230 V=20
>UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
>FONT></P><FONT=20
>face=3DArial size=3D2>
><P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
>System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
> Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
> ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
>ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT ></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have a =
>workable 10+ GHZ=20
>system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry =
>about ASIO=20
>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends
=
>and=20
>still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe =
>hardware=20
>without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI =
>stuff and I=20
>would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista =
>and run 8G=20
>of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP configuration
=
>I've got now=20
>with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the =
>ADI8-DS units=20
>and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe =
>hardware if=20
>I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS =
>
>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe=20
>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but =
>the new=20
>mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number of =
>cards I want=20
>to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need to
=
>be 64=20
>bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it. So =
>why=20
>upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
>hold all my=20
>PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the move =
>now (besides=20
>wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's =
>will be=20
>coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to
=
>get for=20
>my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
=
>of=20
>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value =
>on=20
>EBay).</FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
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| Re: I want to get 64bit/ Vista ready and have more horsepower now....soooo [message #83496 is a reply to message #83495] |
Fri, 20 April 2007 15:07 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Yeh I'm not sure why you'd want to go Vista Deej.
That is why I posted the Linux on a laptop question the other day. If at
all possible my Windows career is going to stop on XP. I'll still need at
least one XP or 98 install for Paris, but I can run everything else on Linux...
....audio software may be another thing, though I'm confident 2 years from
now we'll see movement towards Linux from mainstream audio apps also. Meanwhile,
I imagine they will continue to support XP.
XP support will be around a long while, as 98 was. Remember the bad press
Windows ME got? And 98 ended up outlasting ME because of this. Now look how
much MORE bad press Vista has had.
Windows days are over dude... IMHO... don't go Vista...
Cheers,
Kim.
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
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>No Vista! Bad Deej! No biscuit! You spend night in kennel!
>
>TCB
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the =
>>writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
>>
>>Here's what I'm looking at:
>>
>>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
>>
>>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775
>=
>>Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
>>
>>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual =
>>Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
>>
>>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video
>=
>>Card-$119.99
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
>>
>>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
>>
>>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>
>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
>>Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
>>
>>rough total: $3599.96
>>
>>At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that =
>>*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO =
>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends
>=
>>and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
>=
>>hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of =
>>PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I
=
>>want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>
>>I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the Multiface
>=
>>and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and I don't
>=
>>really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if I =
>>can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS =
>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe =
>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but
=
>>the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number
>=
>>of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and =
>>this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no =
>>matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a
=
>>PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface
>=
>>PCIe anyway?
>>
>>The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
>>horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming down
>=
>>over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for my
=
>>Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable of
>=
>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
=
>>on EBay).
>>
>>Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
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>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a
>=
>>few months.=20
>>I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there,=20
>>soooo......</FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking at:</FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X =
>>ATX Intel=20
>>Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
>><P><A=20
>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059"=
>>><FONT=20
>>face=3DArial=20
>>size=3D2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059=
>></FONT></A></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield =
>>2.66GHz 2 x=20
>>4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
>>GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011=
>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
>>FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM
>=
>>DDR2 800=20
>>(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
>>FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB =
>>128-bit GDDR3 PCI=20
>>Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
>>FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply
>=
>>115/230 V=20
>>UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
>>FONT></P><FONT=20
>>face=3DArial size=3D2>
>><P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
>>System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
>> Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
>> ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
>>ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT ></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have a =
>>workable 10+ GHZ=20
>>system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry =
>>about ASIO=20
>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends
>=
>>and=20
>>still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe =
>>hardware=20
>>without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI =
>>stuff and I=20
>>would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista =
>>and run 8G=20
>>of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP configuration
>=
>>I've got now=20
>>with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the =
>>ADI8-DS units=20
>>and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe =
>>hardware if=20
>>I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS =
>>
>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe=20
>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but
=
>>the new=20
>>mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number of =
>>cards I want=20
>>to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need to
>=
>>be 64=20
>>bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it. So =
>>why=20
>>upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
>>hold all my=20
>>PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the move
=
>>now (besides=20
>>wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's =
>>will be=20
>>coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to
>=
>>get for=20
>>my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
>=
>>of=20
>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
=
>>on=20
>>EBay).</FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: I want to get 64bit/ Vista ready and have more horsepower now....soooo [message #83497 is a reply to message #83496] |
Fri, 20 April 2007 15:10 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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Senior Member |
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Not now silly.........later when I know how evil it really is so I can
appreciate, take full responsibility for and properly savor the grief that
it will cause in my life when I intentionally, and with aforethought, make
the transition.................however, from what I'm hearing, there may be
some *real* advantages to Vista as far as performance of multicore CPU's.
Win XP multicore support is more of a kludge, or so I'm hearing (though
Vista itself may be a kludge too). The ability to run lots of RAM is always
a good thing and if Vista is better at supporting multicore CPU's perhaps it
would be preferable to XP-64.
God forbid I should buy a Mac.
;oD
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4629399a@linux...
>
>
> Yeh I'm not sure why you'd want to go Vista Deej.
>
> That is why I posted the Linux on a laptop question the other day. If at
> all possible my Windows career is going to stop on XP. I'll still need at
> least one XP or 98 install for Paris, but I can run everything else on
> Linux...
>
> ...audio software may be another thing, though I'm confident 2 years from
> now we'll see movement towards Linux from mainstream audio apps also.
> Meanwhile,
> I imagine they will continue to support XP.
>
> XP support will be around a long while, as 98 was. Remember the bad press
> Windows ME got? And 98 ended up outlasting ME because of this. Now look
> how
> much MORE bad press Vista has had.
>
> Windows days are over dude... IMHO... don't go Vista...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>
>>No Vista! Bad Deej! No biscuit! You spend night in kennel!
>>
>>TCB
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the =
>>>writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
>>>
>>>Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>
>>>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
>>>
>>>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775
>>=
>>>Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
>>>
>>>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual =
>>>Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
>>>
>>>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video
>>=
>>>Card-$119.99
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
>>>
>>>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
>>>
>>>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>>
>>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
>>>Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
>>>
>>>rough total: $3599.96
>>>
>>>At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that =
>>>*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO =
>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends
>>=
>>>and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
>>=
>>>hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of =
>>>PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I
> =
>>>want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>>
>>>I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the Multiface
>>=
>>>and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and I don't
>>=
>>>really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if I =
>>>can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS =
>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe =
>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but
> =
>>>the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number
>>=
>>>of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and =
>>>this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no =
>>>matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a
> =
>>>PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface
>>=
>>>PCIe anyway?
>>>
>>>The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
>>>horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming down
>>=
>>>over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for my
> =
>>>Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable of
>>=
>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
> =
>>>on EBay).
>>>
>>>Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>></HEAD>
>>><BODY>
>>><DIV>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a
>>=
>>>few months.=20
>>>I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there,=20
>>>soooo......</FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking at:</FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X =
>>>ATX Intel=20
>>>Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
>>><P><A=20
>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059"=
>>>><FONT=20
>>>face=3DArial=20
>>>size=3D2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059=
>>></FONT></A></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield =
>>>2.66GHz 2 x=20
>>>4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
>>>GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011=
>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
>>>FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM
>>=
>>>DDR2 800=20
>>>(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
>>>FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB =
>>>128-bit GDDR3 PCI=20
>>>Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
>>>FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply
>>=
>>>115/230 V=20
>>>UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
>>>FONT></P><FONT=20
>>>face=3DArial size=3D2>
>>><P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
>>>System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
>>> Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
>>> ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
>>>ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT ></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have a =
>>>workable 10+ GHZ=20
>>>system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry =
>>>about ASIO=20
>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends
>>=
>>>and=20
>>>still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe =
>>>hardware=20
>>>without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI =
>>>stuff and I=20
>>>would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista =
>>>and run 8G=20
>>>of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP configuration
>>=
>>>I've got now=20
>>>with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the =
>>>ADI8-DS units=20
>>>and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe =
>>>hardware if=20
>>>I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS =
>>>
>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe=20
>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but
> =
>>>the new=20
>>>mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number of =
>>>cards I want=20
>>>to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need to
>>=
>>>be 64=20
>>>bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it. So =
>>>why=20
>>>upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
>>>hold all my=20
>>>PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the move
> =
>>>now (besides=20
>>>wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's =
>>>will be=20
>>>coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to
>>=
>>>get for=20
>>>my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
>>=
>>>of=20
>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
> =
>>>on=20
>>>EBay).</FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>
>>>
>>
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| Re: I want to get 64bit/ Vista ready and have more horsepower now....soooo [message #83498 is a reply to message #83497] |
Fri, 20 April 2007 15:18 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
|
Senior Member |
|
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I wouldn't think it's like you to buy a Mac... I mean, for starters they're
reliable...
....and secondly, there's a point of view from which you could say that a
Mac is "the easy way" to run Linux. ;o) And since when did you start doing
things the easy way? ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Not now silly.........later when I know how evil it really is so I can
>appreciate, take full responsibility for and properly savor the grief that
>it will cause in my life when I intentionally, and with aforethought, make
>the transition.................however, from what I'm hearing, there may
be
>some *real* advantages to Vista as far as performance of multicore CPU's.
>Win XP multicore support is more of a kludge, or so I'm hearing (though
>Vista itself may be a kludge too). The ability to run lots of RAM is always
>a good thing and if Vista is better at supporting multicore CPU's perhaps
it
>would be preferable to XP-64.
>
>God forbid I should buy a Mac.
>
>;oD
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4629399a@linux...
>>
>>
>> Yeh I'm not sure why you'd want to go Vista Deej.
>>
>> That is why I posted the Linux on a laptop question the other day. If
at
>> all possible my Windows career is going to stop on XP. I'll still need
at
>> least one XP or 98 install for Paris, but I can run everything else on
>> Linux...
>>
>> ...audio software may be another thing, though I'm confident 2 years from
>> now we'll see movement towards Linux from mainstream audio apps also.
>> Meanwhile,
>> I imagine they will continue to support XP.
>>
>> XP support will be around a long while, as 98 was. Remember the bad press
>> Windows ME got? And 98 ended up outlasting ME because of this. Now look
>> how
>> much MORE bad press Vista has had.
>>
>> Windows days are over dude... IMHO... don't go Vista...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>No Vista! Bad Deej! No biscuit! You spend night in kennel!
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the =
>>>>writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
>>>>
>>>>Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>>
>>>>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>>
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
>>>>
>>>>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775
>>>=
>>>>Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>>
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
>>>>
>>>>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual =
>>>>Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>>>
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
>>>>
>>>>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video
>>>=
>>>>Card-$119.99
>>>>
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
>>>>
>>>>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
>>>>
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
>>>>
>>>>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>>>
>>>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
>>>>Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
>>>>
>>>>rough total: $3599.96
>>>>
>>>>At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that =
>>>>*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO =
>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends
>>>=
>>>>and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
>>>=
>>>>hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of
=
>>>>PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and
I
>> =
>>>>want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>>>
>>>>I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the Multiface
>>>=
>>>>and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and I don't
>>>=
>>>>really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if I
=
>>>>can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS =
>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
=
>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but
>> =
>>>>the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number
>>>=
>>>>of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and
=
>>>>this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no =
>>>>matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get
a
>> =
>>>>PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface
>>>=
>>>>PCIe anyway?
>>>>
>>>>The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
>>>>horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming down
>>>=
>>>>over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for my
>> =
>>>>Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
of
>>>=
>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>> =
>>>>on EBay).
>>>>
>>>>Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
>>>><BODY>
>>>><DIV>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in
a
>>>=
>>>>few months.=20
>>>>I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there,=20
>>>>soooo......</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking at:</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X
=
>>>>ATX Intel=20
>>>>Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
>>>><P><A=20
>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059"=
>>>>><FONT=20
>>>>face=3DArial=20
>>>>size=3D2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059=
>>>></FONT></A></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield
=
>>>>2.66GHz 2 x=20
>>>>4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
>>>>GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011=
>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
>>>>FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM
>>>=
>>>>DDR2 800=20
>>>>(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
>>>>FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB =
>>>>128-bit GDDR3 PCI=20
>>>>Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
>>>>FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply
>>>=
>>>>115/230 V=20
>>>>UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
>>>>FONT></P><FONT=20
>>>>face=3DArial size=3D2>
>>>><P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
>>>>System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
>>>> Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
>>>> ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
>>>>ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT ></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have a =
>>>>workable 10+ GHZ=20
>>>>system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry =
>>>>about ASIO=20
>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends
>>>=
>>>>and=20
>>>>still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
=
>>>>hardware=20
>>>>without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI
=
>>>>stuff and I=20
>>>>would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista
=
>>>>and run 8G=20
>>>>of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP configuration
>>>=
>>>>I've got now=20
>>>>with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the =
>>>>ADI8-DS units=20
>>>>and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe =
>>>>hardware if=20
>>>>I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS
=
>>>>
>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe=20
>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but
>> =
>>>>the new=20
>>>>mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number of =
>>>>cards I want=20
>>>>to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need
to
>>>=
>>>>be 64=20
>>>>bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it. So
=
>>>>why=20
>>>>upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
>>>>hold all my=20
>>>>PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the move
>> =
>>>>now (besides=20
>>>>wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's =
>>>>will be=20
>>>>coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able
to
>>>=
>>>>get for=20
>>>>my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
>>>=
>>>>of=20
>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>> =
>>>>on=20
>>>>EBay).</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
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| Re: I want to get 64bit/ Vista ready and have more horsepower now....soooo [message #83502 is a reply to message #83485] |
Fri, 20 April 2007 17:03 |
Martin Harrington
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AFAIK Vista 64 bit will run 32 bit progs very well.
--=20
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:4629092d@linux...
Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the =
writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
Here's what I'm looking at:
Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA =
775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual =
Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 =
Video Card-$119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
=
http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
rough total: $3599.96
At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that =
*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO =
direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends =
and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe =
hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of =
PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I =
want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the =
Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units =
and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe =
hardware if I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe =
> PCi SBS chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the =
PCi>PCIe conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the =
mobo, but the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use =
the number of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis =
anyway....and this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k =
expense, no matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I =
can get a PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to =
interface PCIe anyway?
The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming down =
over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for my =
Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable of =
integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value =
on EBay).
Any thoughts?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AFAIK Vista 64 bit will run 32 bit =
progs very=20
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:4629092d@linux">news:4629092d@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in =
a few=20
months. I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go =
there,=20
soooo......</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking at:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X =
ATX Intel=20
Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
<P><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059"=
><FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059=
</FONT></A></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield =
2.66GHz 2 x=20
4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 =
SDRAM DDR2 800=20
(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB =
128-bit GDDR3=20
PCI Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power =
Supply 115/230 V=20
UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
FONT></P><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>
<P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have a =
workable 10+=20
GHZ system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to =
worry about=20
ASIO direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on =
inserts/sends=20
and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with =
PCIe=20
hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of =
PCIe/PCI=20
stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to =
go to=20
Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP =
configuration I've got=20
now with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the =
ADI8-DS=20
units and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 =
PCIe=20
hardware if I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the =
PCIe >=20
PCi SBS chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the=20
PCi>PCIe conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with =
the mobo,=20
but the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the =
number=20
of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and =
this=20
will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter =
how you=20
cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe =
chassis that=20
will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe =
anyway?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the move =
now=20
(besides wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of =
the CPU's=20
will be coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll =
be able=20
to get for my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of =
them are=20
capable of integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little =
added=20
value on EBay).</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
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| Re: I want to get 64bit/ Vista ready and have more horsepower now....soooo [message #83503 is a reply to message #83502] |
Fri, 20 April 2007 17:07 |
Deej [4]
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So I can use 8 GB RAM with Vista 64 while running 32 bit Cubase 4?. =
Hmmm....I guess the same would be true of Win XP64 then,eh?
"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message =
news:462955e2@linux...
AFAIK Vista 64 bit will run 32 bit progs very well.
--=20
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message =
news:4629092d@linux...
Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the =
writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
Here's what I'm looking at:
Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA =
775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual =
Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 =
Video Card-$119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
=
http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
rough total: $3599.96
At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that =
*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO =
direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends =
and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe =
hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of =
PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I =
want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the =
Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units =
and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe =
hardware if I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe =
> PCi SBS chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the =
PCi>PCIe conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the =
mobo, but the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use =
the number of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis =
anyway....and this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k =
expense, no matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I =
can get a PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to =
interface PCIe anyway?
The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming down =
over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for my =
Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable of =
integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value =
on EBay).
Any thoughts?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I can use 8 GB RAM with Vista 64 =
while running=20
32 bit Cubase 4?. Hmmm....I guess the same would be true of Win XP64=20
then,eh?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Martin Harrington" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:lendan@bigpond.net.au">lendan@bigpond.net.au</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:462955e2@linux">news:462955e2@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AFAIK Vista 64 bit will run 32 bit =
progs very=20
well.</FONT><BR>-- <BR>Martin Harrington<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.lendanear-sound.com">www.lendanear-sound.com</A></DIV>=
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
wrote=20
in message <A =
href=3D"news:4629092d@linux">news:4629092d@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be =
in a few=20
months. I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to =
go there,=20
soooo......</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking =
at:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel =
975X ATX Intel=20
Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
<P><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059"=
><FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059=
</FONT></A></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 =
Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2=20
x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 =
SDRAM DDR2 800=20
(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB =
128-bit GDDR3=20
PCI Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power =
Supply 115/230=20
V UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
FONT></P><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>
<P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have a =
workable 10+=20
GHZ system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to =
worry=20
about ASIO direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on =
inserts/sends and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio =
interfacing=20
with PCIe hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash =
combination=20
of PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes =
and I=20
want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP =
configuration I've got=20
now with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on =
the=20
ADI8-DS units and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME =
and UAD-1=20
PCIe hardware if I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with =
the PCIe=20
> PCi SBS chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with =
the=20
PCi>PCIe conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with =
the=20
mobo, but the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to =
use the=20
number of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis =
anyway....and=20
this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no =
matter=20
how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a =
PCIe=20
chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface =
PCIe=20
anyway?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the =
move now=20
(besides wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of =
the=20
CPU's will be coming down over the next few months, so will the =
price I'll=20
be able to get for my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although =
2 x of=20
them are capable of integrating the PCIe host card so this gives =
them a=20
little added value on EBay).</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
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| Re: I want to get 64bit/ Vista ready and have more horsepower now....soooo [message #83504 is a reply to message #83497] |
Fri, 20 April 2007 17:08 |
Martin Harrington
Messages: 560
Registered: September 2005
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I have a patch that I have yet to install, But I know someone who has, that
lets OSX run natively on an AMD or Intel processor.
It boots into either OSX or XP/Vista.
http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/3652157/Mac_OS_X_10.4.8_ [JaS_AMD-Intel-SSE2-SSE3_with_PPF1___PPF2].iso.3652157.TPB.t orrent
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Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:46293b51@linux...
> Not now silly.........later when I know how evil it really is so I can
> appreciate, take full responsibility for and properly savor the grief that
> it will cause in my life when I intentionally, and with aforethought, make
> the transition.................however, from what I'm hearing, there may
> be some *real* advantages to Vista as far as performance of multicore
> CPU's. Win XP multicore support is more of a kludge, or so I'm hearing
> (though Vista itself may be a kludge too). The ability to run lots of RAM
> is always a good thing and if Vista is better at supporting multicore
> CPU's perhaps it would be preferable to XP-64.
>
> God forbid I should buy a Mac.
>
> ;oD
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4629399a@linux...
>>
>>
>> Yeh I'm not sure why you'd want to go Vista Deej.
>>
>> That is why I posted the Linux on a laptop question the other day. If at
>> all possible my Windows career is going to stop on XP. I'll still need at
>> least one XP or 98 install for Paris, but I can run everything else on
>> Linux...
>>
>> ...audio software may be another thing, though I'm confident 2 years from
>> now we'll see movement towards Linux from mainstream audio apps also.
>> Meanwhile,
>> I imagine they will continue to support XP.
>>
>> XP support will be around a long while, as 98 was. Remember the bad press
>> Windows ME got? And 98 ended up outlasting ME because of this. Now look
>> how
>> much MORE bad press Vista has had.
>>
>> Windows days are over dude... IMHO... don't go Vista...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>No Vista! Bad Deej! No biscuit! You spend night in kennel!
>>>
>>>TCB
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the =
>>>>writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
>>>>
>>>>Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>>
>>>>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>>
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
>>>>
>>>>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775
>>>=
>>>>Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>>
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
>>>>
>>>>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual =
>>>>Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>>>
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
>>>>
>>>>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video
>>>=
>>>>Card-$119.99
>>>>
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
>>>>
>>>>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
>>>>
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
>>>>
>>>>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>>>
>>>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
>>>>Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
>>>>
>>>>rough total: $3599.96
>>>>
>>>>At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that =
>>>>*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO =
>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends
>>>=
>>>>and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
>>>=
>>>>hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of =
>>>>PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I
>> =
>>>>want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>>>
>>>>I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the Multiface
>>>=
>>>>and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and I don't
>>>=
>>>>really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if I =
>>>>can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS =
>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe =
>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but
>> =
>>>>the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number
>>>=
>>>>of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and =
>>>>this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no =
>>>>matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a
>> =
>>>>PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface
>>>=
>>>>PCIe anyway?
>>>>
>>>>The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
>>>>horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming down
>>>=
>>>>over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for my
>> =
>>>>Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable of
>>>=
>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>> =
>>>>on EBay).
>>>>
>>>>Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>></HEAD>
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>>>><DIV>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a
>>>=
>>>>few months.=20
>>>>I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there,=20
>>>>soooo......</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking at:</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X =
>>>>ATX Intel=20
>>>>Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
>>>><P><A=20
>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059"=
>>>>><FONT=20
>>>>face=3DArial=20
>>>>size=3D2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059=
>>>></FONT></A></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield =
>>>>2.66GHz 2 x=20
>>>>4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
>>>>GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011=
>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
>>>>FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM
>>>=
>>>>DDR2 800=20
>>>>(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
>>>>FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB =
>>>>128-bit GDDR3 PCI=20
>>>>Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
>>>>FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply
>>>=
>>>>115/230 V=20
>>>>UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
>>>>FONT></P><FONT=20
>>>>face=3DArial size=3D2>
>>>><P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
>>>>System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
>>>> Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
>>>> ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
>>>>ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT ></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have a =
>>>>workable 10+ GHZ=20
>>>>system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry =
>>>>about ASIO=20
>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends
>>>=
>>>>and=20
>>>>still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe =
>>>>hardware=20
>>>>without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI =
>>>>stuff and I=20
>>>>would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista =
>>>>and run 8G=20
>>>>of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP configuration
>>>=
>>>>I've got now=20
>>>>with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the =
>>>>ADI8-DS units=20
>>>>and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe =
>>>>hardware if=20
>>>>I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS =
>>>>
>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe=20
>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but
>> =
>>>>the new=20
>>>>mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number of =
>>>>cards I want=20
>>>>to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need to
>>>=
>>>>be 64=20
>>>>bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it. So =
>>>>why=20
>>>>upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
>>>>hold all my=20
>>>>PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the move
>> =
>>>>now (besides=20
>>>>wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's =
>>>>will be=20
>>>>coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to
>>>=
>>>>get for=20
>>>>my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
>>>=
>>>>of=20
>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>> =
>>>>on=20
>>>>EBay).</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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| Re: I want to get 64bit/ Vista ready and have more horsepower now....soooo [message #83509 is a reply to message #83503] |
Fri, 20 April 2007 22:49 |
Chris Ludwig
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Senior Member |
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Hi DJ,
Stick with XP you will waste you time for the next year with vista
especially vista 64.
No audio or hardware or software work any better on vista and most
works worse.
You got at least a year still before you should even begin to run the
main studio on it.
If you want to play around with it in free time then put the OS drive in
the removable tray and install Vista that way. Don't do any sort of dual
boot. Just do separate drives.
DJ wrote:
> So I can use 8 GB RAM with Vista 64 while running 32 bit Cubase 4?.
> Hmmm....I guess the same would be true of Win XP64 then,eh?
Cubase will not use 4 gigs with most sampler VSTi in vista 64. The
majority of the VSTi are not Large Memory address aware and will still
have the same limitations they do in XP. Cubase performs horriblay in
Vista at this point and many VSTi will not install correctly. If you not
doing any heavy midi work as you say. As in no large Orchestral stuff
then you really will have no benefit to the more thna 4 gig stuff at
this point.
>
>
>
> Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months.
>
I think it will be more than a few personally..:(
>
> I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go
> there, soooo......
>
> Here's what I'm looking at:
>
> Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168131210 59
>
excellent motherboard
> Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2
> Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115 011
>
awesome but I would wait till summer time. Intel will doing a price drop
on them. if you really want to get a system going now you might want to
go for the E6600 and get the quad later. The e660 is still substantially
faster than what your using now.
> mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
> Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146 599
>
make sure it is cl4. the 800 part won't mean much if its got a high CL.
Oh and I would use 2 2gig sticks. The board will take upto 8 gigs in 64.
2gig stick have come done allot in price.
> XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express
> x16 Video Card-$119.99
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150 185
>
excellent
> COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159 040
>
not good enough for the amount of stuff you got.
Get the Thermaltake 700 watt Tough Power. Way better. The 500watts will
be pushing to close to the edge.
> Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>
> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System /17659/1
>
UAD don't recommend that unit at all. The PCI-e SBS stuff is way better.
http://uaudio.com/webzine/2006/december/index5.html
> rough total: $3599.96
>
> At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system
> that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry
> about ASIO direct monitoring while tracking projects that have
> FX on inserts/sends and still be able to utilize my existing
> PCI audio interfacing with PCIe hardware without having to
> replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI stuff and I
> would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go
> to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>
Vista 64 is the only that will address 8 gigs or more. Vista 32 is no
different than XP. 4 gigs.
> I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the
> Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the
> ADI8-DS units and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on
> RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if I can just integrate my
> existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS chassis. There
> might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
> conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the
> mobo, but the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow
> me to use the number of cards I want to use without a PCIe
> expansion chassis anyway....and this will need to be 64 bit
> eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it.
> So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis
> that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface
> PCIe anyway?
>
SBS is the better unit. Not the Magma crap.
> The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting
> the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will
> be coming down over the next few months, so will the price
> I'll be able to get for my Magma's since they are 32 bit units
> (although 2 x of them are capable of integrating the PCIe host
> card so this gives them a little added value on EBay).
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762
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| Re: I want to get 64bit/ Vista ready and have more horsepower now....soooo [message #83511 is a reply to message #83509] |
Sat, 21 April 2007 00:10 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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Thanks Chris. Been playing around with Reaper some more tonight. Great
routing and ease of ues. I don't see any performance gains over Cubase 4
with my dual core when running UAD-1's, even in UAD-1 synchronous mode
(which then disables multicore usage). I also got my first BSOD with Reaper
tonight....something that I haven't had with Cubase 4, ever. I really only
want to be able to get low latencies when tracking with FX. It wouldn't
bother me to stay win Win XP, especially if the 64 bit OS would allow more
RAM and still allow me to use Cubase 4 and my Magmas at 32 bit. I'm still
not clear on whether that is possible. All my other hardware has 64 bit
drivers available (CDR drive and graphics card.) I wouldn't mind at all
staying at 32 bit if I could just track and mix at low latency.
I'd like to use as much of my existing hardware as possible. Maybe one of
the old AGP based Tyan mobos with dual socket dual core Opterons? I hear
those scream, though there are some issues with over 3 x UAD-1 cards, but
I've also heard that having the cards in a Magma cures the problem and
Magmas are something I've got here....in spades.
All I would need is the MOBO, the CPU's and 4GB ECC DDR 400 and I'd be good.
I've got everything else.
"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:4629a6ce@linux...
> Hi DJ,
>
> Stick with XP you will waste you time for the next year with vista
> especially vista 64.
> No audio or hardware or software work any better on vista and most works
> worse.
> You got at least a year still before you should even begin to run the main
> studio on it.
> If you want to play around with it in free time then put the OS drive in
> the removable tray and install Vista that way. Don't do any sort of dual
> boot. Just do separate drives.
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> So I can use 8 GB RAM with Vista 64 while running 32 bit Cubase 4?.
>> Hmmm....I guess the same would be true of Win XP64 then,eh?
> Cubase will not use 4 gigs with most sampler VSTi in vista 64. The
> majority of the VSTi are not Large Memory address aware and will still
> have the same limitations they do in XP. Cubase performs horriblay in
> Vista at this point and many VSTi will not install correctly. If you not
> doing any heavy midi work as you say. As in no large Orchestral stuff then
> you really will have no benefit to the more thna 4 gig stuff at this
> point.
>
>>
>>
>> Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months.
>>
> I think it will be more than a few personally..:(
>>
>> I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go
>> there, soooo......
>>
>> Here's what I'm looking at:
>>
>> Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168131210 59
>>
> excellent motherboard
>
>> Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2
>> Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115 011
>>
> awesome but I would wait till summer time. Intel will doing a price drop
> on them. if you really want to get a system going now you might want to go
> for the E6600 and get the quad later. The e660 is still substantially
> faster than what your using now.
>
>
>> mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
>> Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146 599
>>
> make sure it is cl4. the 800 part won't mean much if its got a high CL. Oh
> and I would use 2 2gig sticks. The board will take upto 8 gigs in 64. 2gig
> stick have come done allot in price.
>
>
>> XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express
>> x16 Video Card-$119.99
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150 185
>>
> excellent
>
>> COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL,
>> CSA, -59.99
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159 040
>>
>
> not good enough for the amount of stuff you got.
> Get the Thermaltake 700 watt Tough Power. Way better. The 500watts will be
> pushing to close to the edge.
>
>
>> Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>
>>
>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System /17659/1
>>
>
> UAD don't recommend that unit at all. The PCI-e SBS stuff is way better.
> http://uaudio.com/webzine/2006/december/index5.html
>
>
>> rough total: $3599.96
>>
>> At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system
>> that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry
>> about ASIO direct monitoring while tracking projects that have
>> FX on inserts/sends and still be able to utilize my existing
>> PCI audio interfacing with PCIe hardware without having to
>> replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI stuff and I
>> would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go
>> to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>
>
> Vista 64 is the only that will address 8 gigs or more. Vista 32 is no
> different than XP. 4 gigs.
>
>> I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the
>> Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the
>> ADI8-DS units and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on
>> RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if I can just integrate my
>> existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS chassis. There
>> might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
>> conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the
>> mobo, but the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow
>> me to use the number of cards I want to use without a PCIe
>> expansion chassis anyway....and this will need to be 64 bit
>> eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it.
>> So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis
>> that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface
>> PCIe anyway?
>>
> SBS is the better unit. Not the Magma crap.
>
>> The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting
>> the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will
>> be coming down over the next few months, so will the price
>> I'll be able to get for my Magma's since they are 32 bit units
>> (although 2 x of them are capable of integrating the PCIe host
>> card so this gives them a little added value on EBay).
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Chris Ludwig
> ADK
> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
> (859) 635-5762
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| Re: I want to get 64bit/ Vista ready and have more horsepower now....soooo [message #83518 is a reply to message #83509] |
Sat, 21 April 2007 04:24 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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great advice as always. I'd rather make music than dink around with
OS's. I played/recorded for 5 hours last night and never had so much
fun. Screw computers. Now they work! Use em like a hammer ! TOOL.
Chris Ludwig wrote:
> Hi DJ,
>
> Stick with XP you will waste you time for the next year with vista
> especially vista 64.
> No audio or hardware or software work any better on vista and most
> works worse.
> You got at least a year still before you should even begin to run the
> main studio on it.
> If you want to play around with it in free time then put the OS drive in
> the removable tray and install Vista that way. Don't do any sort of dual
> boot. Just do separate drives.
>
>
>
> DJ wrote:
>> So I can use 8 GB RAM with Vista 64 while running 32 bit Cubase 4?.
>> Hmmm....I guess the same would be true of Win XP64 then,eh?
> Cubase will not use 4 gigs with most sampler VSTi in vista 64. The
> majority of the VSTi are not Large Memory address aware and will still
> have the same limitations they do in XP. Cubase performs horriblay in
> Vista at this point and many VSTi will not install correctly. If you not
> doing any heavy midi work as you say. As in no large Orchestral stuff
> then you really will have no benefit to the more thna 4 gig stuff at
> this point.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months.
>>
> I think it will be more than a few personally..:(
>>
>> I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go
>> there, soooo......
>>
>> Here's what I'm looking at:
>>
>> Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168131210 59
>>
> excellent motherboard
>
>> Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2
>> Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115 011
>>
> awesome but I would wait till summer time. Intel will doing a price drop
> on them. if you really want to get a system going now you might want to
> go for the E6600 and get the quad later. The e660 is still substantially
> faster than what your using now.
>
>
>> mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
>> Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146 599
>>
> make sure it is cl4. the 800 part won't mean much if its got a high CL.
> Oh and I would use 2 2gig sticks. The board will take upto 8 gigs in 64.
> 2gig stick have come done allot in price.
>
>
>> XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express
>> x16 Video Card-$119.99
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150 185
>>
> excellent
>
>> COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA,
>> -59.99
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159 040
>>
>
> not good enough for the amount of stuff you got.
> Get the Thermaltake 700 watt Tough Power. Way better. The 500watts will
> be pushing to close to the edge.
>
>
>> Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>
>>
>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System /17659/1
>>
>>
>
> UAD don't recommend that unit at all. The PCI-e SBS stuff is way better.
> http://uaudio.com/webzine/2006/december/index5.html
>
>
>> rough total: $3599.96
>>
>> At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system
>> that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry
>> about ASIO direct monitoring while tracking projects that have
>> FX on inserts/sends and still be able to utilize my existing
>> PCI audio interfacing with PCIe hardware without having to
>> replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI stuff and I
>> would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go
>> to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>
>
> Vista 64 is the only that will address 8 gigs or more. Vista 32 is no
> different than XP. 4 gigs.
>
>> I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the
>> Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the
>> ADI8-DS units and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on
>> RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if I can just integrate my
>> existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS chassis. There
>> might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
>> conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the
>> mobo, but the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow
>> me to use the number of cards I want to use without a PCIe
>> expansion chassis anyway....and this will need to be 64 bit
>> eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it.
>> So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis
>> that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface
>> PCIe anyway?
>>
> SBS is the better unit. Not the Magma crap.
>
>> The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting
>> the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will
>> be coming down over the next few months, so will the price
>> I'll be able to get for my Magma's since they are 32 bit units
>> (although 2 x of them are capable of integrating the PCIe host
>> card so this gives them a little added value on EBay).
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Re: I want to get 64bit/ Vista ready and have more horsepower now....soooo [message #83519 is a reply to message #83511] |
Sat, 21 April 2007 04:26 |
John [1]
Messages: 2229
Registered: September 2005
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DJ, using rme 9652, i'm doing 3ms latency for normal tracking with 20%
cpu on the e6700. I can do .7ms and it uses 50%. Amazing really. 3ms
is great for tracking and has no perceptible delay for the average
studio setup.
DJ wrote:
> Thanks Chris. Been playing around with Reaper some more tonight. Great
> routing and ease of ues. I don't see any performance gains over Cubase 4
> with my dual core when running UAD-1's, even in UAD-1 synchronous mode
> (which then disables multicore usage). I also got my first BSOD with Reaper
> tonight....something that I haven't had with Cubase 4, ever. I really only
> want to be able to get low latencies when tracking with FX. It wouldn't
> bother me to stay win Win XP, especially if the 64 bit OS would allow more
> RAM and still allow me to use Cubase 4 and my Magmas at 32 bit. I'm still
> not clear on whether that is possible. All my other hardware has 64 bit
> drivers available (CDR drive and graphics card.) I wouldn't mind at all
> staying at 32 bit if I could just track and mix at low latency.
>
> I'd like to use as much of my existing hardware as possible. Maybe one of
> the old AGP based Tyan mobos with dual socket dual core Opterons? I hear
> those scream, though there are some issues with over 3 x UAD-1 cards, but
> I've also heard that having the cards in a Magma cures the problem and
> Magmas are something I've got here....in spades.
>
> All I would need is the MOBO, the CPU's and 4GB ECC DDR 400 and I'd be good.
> I've got everything else.
>
>
> "Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:4629a6ce@linux...
>> Hi DJ,
>>
>> Stick with XP you will waste you time for the next year with vista
>> especially vista 64.
>> No audio or hardware or software work any better on vista and most works
>> worse.
>> You got at least a year still before you should even begin to run the main
>> studio on it.
>> If you want to play around with it in free time then put the OS drive in
>> the removable tray and install Vista that way. Don't do any sort of dual
>> boot. Just do separate drives.
>>
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> So I can use 8 GB RAM with Vista 64 while running 32 bit Cubase 4?.
>>> Hmmm....I guess the same would be true of Win XP64 then,eh?
>> Cubase will not use 4 gigs with most sampler VSTi in vista 64. The
>> majority of the VSTi are not Large Memory address aware and will still
>> have the same limitations they do in XP. Cubase performs horriblay in
>> Vista at this point and many VSTi will not install correctly. If you not
>> doing any heavy midi work as you say. As in no large Orchestral stuff then
>> you really will have no benefit to the more thna 4 gig stuff at this
>> point.
>>
>>>
>>> Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months.
>>>
>> I think it will be more than a few personally..:(
>>> I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go
>>> there, soooo......
>>>
>>> Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>
>>> Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168131210 59
>>>
>> excellent motherboard
>>
>>> Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2
>>> Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115 011
>>>
>> awesome but I would wait till summer time. Intel will doing a price drop
>> on them. if you really want to get a system going now you might want to go
>> for the E6600 and get the quad later. The e660 is still substantially
>> faster than what your using now.
>>
>>
>>> mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
>>> Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146 599
>>>
>> make sure it is cl4. the 800 part won't mean much if its got a high CL. Oh
>> and I would use 2 2gig sticks. The board will take upto 8 gigs in 64. 2gig
>> stick have come done allot in price.
>>
>>
>>> XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express
>>> x16 Video Card-$119.99
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150 185
>>>
>> excellent
>>
>>> COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL,
>>> CSA, -59.99
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159 040
>>>
>> not good enough for the amount of stuff you got.
>> Get the Thermaltake 700 watt Tough Power. Way better. The 500watts will be
>> pushing to close to the edge.
>>
>>
>>> Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System /17659/1
>>>
>> UAD don't recommend that unit at all. The PCI-e SBS stuff is way better.
>> http://uaudio.com/webzine/2006/december/index5.html
>>
>>
>>> rough total: $3599.96
>>>
>>> At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system
>>> that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry
>>> about ASIO direct monitoring while tracking projects that have
>>> FX on inserts/sends and still be able to utilize my existing
>>> PCI audio interfacing with PCIe hardware without having to
>>> replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI stuff and I
>>> would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go
>>> to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>>
>> Vista 64 is the only that will address 8 gigs or more. Vista 32 is no
>> different than XP. 4 gigs.
>>
>>> I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the
>>> Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the
>>> ADI8-DS units and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on
>>> RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if I can just integrate my
>>> existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS chassis. There
>>> might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
>>> conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the
>>> mobo, but the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow
>>> me to use the number of cards I want to use without a PCIe
>>> expansion chassis anyway....and this will need to be 64 bit
>>> eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it.
>>> So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis
>>> that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface
>>> PCIe anyway?
>>>
>> SBS is the better unit. Not the Magma crap.
>>
>>> The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting
>>> the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will
>>> be coming down over the next few months, so will the price
>>> I'll be able to get for my Magma's since they are 32 bit units
>>> (although 2 x of them are capable of integrating the PCIe host
>>> card so this gives them a little added value on EBay).
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>> ADK
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> (859) 635-5762
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| Re: I want to get 64bit/ Vista ready and have more horsepower now....soooo [message #83522 is a reply to message #83498] |
Sat, 21 April 2007 07:58 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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OK, I'll try to be nice here. I'm hungover after a long night out with, well,
a friend. OS X _might_ be the easy way to run _Unix_, but it has absolutely
nothing to do with _linux_. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Not at the technical
level, not at the licensing level, not at the moral level, not at the community
level, not at the pricing level.
I realize you probably don't make those distinctions, but I actually take
offense at OS X being equated with linux. And I respond to DC regularly so
I don't take offense at the drop of a hat.
If you would like to take a look at actual linux, Ubuntu 7 just released,
Feisty Fawn. The install CD is actually a live CD, so you can boot off the
CD and poke around a bit if you like. Beryl is installed but not enabled
by default, and if you turn it on you'll have all the eye candy you could
possible want, and not be stuck with a proprietary OS.
TCB
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I wouldn't think it's like you to buy a Mac... I mean, for starters they're
>reliable...
>
>...and secondly, there's a point of view from which you could say that a
>Mac is "the easy way" to run Linux. ;o) And since when did you start doing
>things the easy way? ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>Not now silly.........later when I know how evil it really is so I can
>>appreciate, take full responsibility for and properly savor the grief that
>
>>it will cause in my life when I intentionally, and with aforethought, make
>
>>the transition.................however, from what I'm hearing, there may
>be
>>some *real* advantages to Vista as far as performance of multicore CPU's.
>
>>Win XP multicore support is more of a kludge, or so I'm hearing (though
>
>>Vista itself may be a kludge too). The ability to run lots of RAM is always
>
>>a good thing and if Vista is better at supporting multicore CPU's perhaps
>it
>>would be preferable to XP-64.
>>
>>God forbid I should buy a Mac.
>>
>>;oD
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4629399a@linux...
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeh I'm not sure why you'd want to go Vista Deej.
>>>
>>> That is why I posted the Linux on a laptop question the other day. If
>at
>>> all possible my Windows career is going to stop on XP. I'll still need
>at
>>> least one XP or 98 install for Paris, but I can run everything else on
>
>>> Linux...
>>>
>>> ...audio software may be another thing, though I'm confident 2 years
from
>>> now we'll see movement towards Linux from mainstream audio apps also.
>
>>> Meanwhile,
>>> I imagine they will continue to support XP.
>>>
>>> XP support will be around a long while, as 98 was. Remember the bad press
>>> Windows ME got? And 98 ended up outlasting ME because of this. Now look
>
>>> how
>>> much MORE bad press Vista has had.
>>>
>>> Windows days are over dude... IMHO... don't go Vista...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>>
>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>No Vista! Bad Deej! No biscuit! You spend night in kennel!
>>>>
>>>>TCB
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the =
>>>>>writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
>>>>>
>>>>>Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>>>
>>>>>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
>>>>>
>>>>>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA
775
>>>>=
>>>>>Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
>>>>>
>>>>>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual =
>>>>>Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
>>>>>
>>>>>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video
>>>>=
>>>>>Card-$119.99
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
>>>>>
>>>>>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
>>>>>
>>>>>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
>>>>>Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
>>>>>
>>>>>rough total: $3599.96
>>>>>
>>>>>At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that =
>>>>>*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO =
>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends
>>>>=
>>>>>and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with
PCIe
>>>>=
>>>>>hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of
>=
>>>>>PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and
>I
>>> =
>>>>>want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>>>>
>>>>>I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the Multiface
>>>>=
>>>>>and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and I don't
>>>>=
>>>>>really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if
I
>=
>>>>>can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS
=
>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
>=
>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but
>>> =
>>>>>the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number
>>>>=
>>>>>of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and
>=
>>>>>this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no
=
>>>>>matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get
>a
>>> =
>>>>>PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface
>>>>=
>>>>>PCIe anyway?
>>>>>
>>>>>The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
>>>>>horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming
down
>>>>=
>>>>>over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for
my
>>> =
>>>>>Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
>of
>>>>=
>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>> =
>>>>>on EBay).
>>>>>
>>>>>Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB =
>>>>>128-bit GDDR3 PCI=20
>>>>>Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply
>>>>=
>>>>>115/230 V=20
>>>>>UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
>>>>>FONT></P><FONT=20
>>>>>face=3DArial size=3D2>
>>>>><P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
>>>>>System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
>>>>> Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
>>>>> ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
>>>>>ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT ></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have a
=
>>>>>workable 10+ GHZ=20
>>>>>system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry
=
>>>>>about ASIO=20
>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends
>>>>=
>>>>>and=20
>>>>>still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
>=
>>>>>hardware=20
>>>>>without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI
>=
>>>>>stuff and I=20
>>>>>would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista
>=
>>>>>and run 8G=20
>>>>>of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP configuration
>>>>=
>>>>>I've got now=20
>>>>>with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the =
>>>>>ADI8-DS units=20
>>>>>and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe
=
>>>>>hardware if=20
>>>>>I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS
>=
>>>>>
>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe=20
>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but
>>> =
>>>>>the new=20
>>>>>mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number of
=
>>>>>cards I want=20
>>>>>to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need
>to
>>>>=
>>>>>be 64=20
>>>>>bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it. So
>=
>>>>>why=20
>>>>>upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
>>>>>hold all my=20
>>>>>PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the move
>>> =
>>>>>now (besides=20
>>>>>wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's =
>>>>>will be=20
>>>>>coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able
>to
>>>>=
>>>>>get for=20
>>>>>my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
>>>>=
>>>>>of=20
>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>> =
>>>>>on=20
>>>>>EBay).</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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>>>>>
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| Re: I want to get 64bit/ Vista ready and have more horsepower now....soooo [message #83523 is a reply to message #83511] |
Sat, 21 April 2007 08:16 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Seriously Deej, I'm so negative about Vista that if it were my choice (it's
not) we'd go to Ubuntu on the desktops where I work. It's that bad, in my
opinion. My audio machines, well in the long run I have no choice, but from
here Vista looks to be worse than ME or NT 4 SP 1. By the time M$oft got
SP 3 out for NT 4 it was actually a pretty solid platform, but Vista is just
plain awful. Stay away.
TCB
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Thanks Chris. Been playing around with Reaper some more tonight. Great
>routing and ease of ues. I don't see any performance gains over Cubase 4
>with my dual core when running UAD-1's, even in UAD-1 synchronous mode
>(which then disables multicore usage). I also got my first BSOD with Reaper
>tonight....something that I haven't had with Cubase 4, ever. I really only
>want to be able to get low latencies when tracking with FX. It wouldn't
>bother me to stay win Win XP, especially if the 64 bit OS would allow more
>RAM and still allow me to use Cubase 4 and my Magmas at 32 bit. I'm still
>not clear on whether that is possible. All my other hardware has 64 bit
>drivers available (CDR drive and graphics card.) I wouldn't mind at all
>staying at 32 bit if I could just track and mix at low latency.
>
>I'd like to use as much of my existing hardware as possible. Maybe one of
>the old AGP based Tyan mobos with dual socket dual core Opterons? I hear
>those scream, though there are some issues with over 3 x UAD-1 cards, but
>I've also heard that having the cards in a Magma cures the problem and
>Magmas are something I've got here....in spades.
>
>All I would need is the MOBO, the CPU's and 4GB ECC DDR 400 and I'd be good.
>I've got everything else.
>
>
>"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
>news:4629a6ce@linux...
>> Hi DJ,
>>
>> Stick with XP you will waste you time for the next year with vista
>> especially vista 64.
>> No audio or hardware or software work any better on vista and most works
>> worse.
>> You got at least a year still before you should even begin to run the
main
>> studio on it.
>> If you want to play around with it in free time then put the OS drive
in
>> the removable tray and install Vista that way. Don't do any sort of dual
>> boot. Just do separate drives.
>>
>>
>>
>> DJ wrote:
>>> So I can use 8 GB RAM with Vista 64 while running 32 bit Cubase 4?.
>>> Hmmm....I guess the same would be true of Win XP64 then,eh?
>> Cubase will not use 4 gigs with most sampler VSTi in vista 64. The
>> majority of the VSTi are not Large Memory address aware and will still
>> have the same limitations they do in XP. Cubase performs horriblay in
>> Vista at this point and many VSTi will not install correctly. If you not
>> doing any heavy midi work as you say. As in no large Orchestral stuff
then
>> you really will have no benefit to the more thna 4 gig stuff at this
>> point.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months.
>>>
>> I think it will be more than a few personally..:(
>>>
>>> I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go
>>> there, soooo......
>>>
>>> Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>
>>> Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E168131210 59
>>>
>> excellent motherboard
>>
>>> Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2
>>> Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115 011
>>>
>> awesome but I would wait till summer time. Intel will doing a price drop
>> on them. if you really want to get a system going now you might want to
go
>> for the E6600 and get the quad later. The e660 is still substantially
>> faster than what your using now.
>>
>>
>>> mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
>>> Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146 599
>>>
>> make sure it is cl4. the 800 part won't mean much if its got a high CL.
Oh
>> and I would use 2 2gig sticks. The board will take upto 8 gigs in 64.
2gig
>> stick have come done allot in price.
>>
>>
>>> XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express
>>> x16 Video Card-$119.99
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150 185
>>>
>> excellent
>>
>>> COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL,
>>> CSA, -59.99
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159 040
>>>
>>
>> not good enough for the amount of stuff you got.
>> Get the Thermaltake 700 watt Tough Power. Way better. The 500watts will
be
>> pushing to close to the edge.
>>
>>
>>> Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System /17659/1
>>>
>>
>> UAD don't recommend that unit at all. The PCI-e SBS stuff is way better.
>> http://uaudio.com/webzine/2006/december/index5.html
>>
>>
>>> rough total: $3599.96
>>>
>>> At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system
>>> that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry
>>> about ASIO direct monitoring while tracking projects that have
>>> FX on inserts/sends and still be able to utilize my existing
>>> PCI audio interfacing with PCIe hardware without having to
>>> replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI stuff and
I
>>> would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go
>>> to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>>
>>
>> Vista 64 is the only that will address 8 gigs or more. Vista 32 is no
>> different than XP. 4 gigs.
>>
>>> I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the
>>> Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the
>>> ADI8-DS units and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on
>>> RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if I can just integrate my
>>> existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS chassis. There
>>> might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
>>> conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the
>>> mobo, but the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow
>>> me to use the number of cards I want to use without a PCIe
>>> expansion chassis anyway....and this will need to be 64 bit
>>> eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it.
>>> So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis
>>> that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface
>>> PCIe anyway?
>>>
>> SBS is the better unit. Not the Magma crap.
>>
>>> The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting
>>> the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will
>>> be coming down over the next few months, so will the price
>>> I'll be able to get for my Magma's since they are 32 bit units
>>> (although 2 x of them are capable of integrating the PCIe host
>>> card so this gives them a little added value on EBay).
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Chris Ludwig
>> ADK
>> chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>> www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>> (859) 635-5762
>
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| Re: I want to get 64bit/ Vista ready and have more horsepower now....soooo [message #83525 is a reply to message #83522] |
Sat, 21 April 2007 08:49 |
Deej [4]
Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007
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Feisty Fawn?? ............when will Salivating Satyr be released?
;o)
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:462a26ac$1@linux...
>
> OK, I'll try to be nice here. I'm hungover after a long night out with,
> well,
> a friend. OS X _might_ be the easy way to run _Unix_, but it has
> absolutely
> nothing to do with _linux_. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Not at the technical
> level, not at the licensing level, not at the moral level, not at the
> community
> level, not at the pricing level.
>
> I realize you probably don't make those distinctions, but I actually take
> offense at OS X being equated with linux. And I respond to DC regularly so
> I don't take offense at the drop of a hat.
>
> If you would like to take a look at actual linux, Ubuntu 7 just released,
> Feisty Fawn. The install CD is actually a live CD, so you can boot off the
> CD and poke around a bit if you like. Beryl is installed but not enabled
> by default, and if you turn it on you'll have all the eye candy you could
> possible want, and not be stuck with a proprietary OS.
>
> TCB
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I wouldn't think it's like you to buy a Mac... I mean, for starters
>>they're
>>reliable...
>>
>>...and secondly, there's a point of view from which you could say that a
>>Mac is "the easy way" to run Linux. ;o) And since when did you start doing
>>things the easy way? ;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>Not now silly.........later when I know how evil it really is so I can
>
>>>appreciate, take full responsibility for and properly savor the grief
>>>that
>>
>>>it will cause in my life when I intentionally, and with aforethought,
>>>make
>>
>>>the transition.................however, from what I'm hearing, there may
>>be
>>>some *real* advantages to Vista as far as performance of multicore CPU's.
>>
>>>Win XP multicore support is more of a kludge, or so I'm hearing (though
>>
>>>Vista itself may be a kludge too). The ability to run lots of RAM is
>>>always
>>
>>>a good thing and if Vista is better at supporting multicore CPU's perhaps
>>it
>>>would be preferable to XP-64.
>>>
>>>God forbid I should buy a Mac.
>>>
>>>;oD
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4629399a@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeh I'm not sure why you'd want to go Vista Deej.
>>>>
>>>> That is why I posted the Linux on a laptop question the other day. If
>>at
>>>> all possible my Windows career is going to stop on XP. I'll still need
>>at
>>>> least one XP or 98 install for Paris, but I can run everything else on
>>
>>>> Linux...
>>>>
>>>> ...audio software may be another thing, though I'm confident 2 years
> from
>>>> now we'll see movement towards Linux from mainstream audio apps also.
>>
>>>> Meanwhile,
>>>> I imagine they will continue to support XP.
>>>>
>>>> XP support will be around a long while, as 98 was. Remember the bad
>>>> press
>>>> Windows ME got? And 98 ended up outlasting ME because of this. Now look
>>
>>>> how
>>>> much MORE bad press Vista has had.
>>>>
>>>> Windows days are over dude... IMHO... don't go Vista...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>No Vista! Bad Deej! No biscuit! You spend night in kennel!
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the =
>>>>>>writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA
> 775
>>>>>=
>>>>>>Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
>>>>>>
>>>>>>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual =
>>>>>>Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
>>>>>>
>>>>>>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
>>>>>>Video
>>>>>=
>>>>>>Card-$119.99
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
>>>>>>
>>>>>>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
>>>>>>Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>rough total: $3599.96
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that =
>>>>>>*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO =
>>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>inserts/sends
>>>>>=
>>>>>>and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with
> PCIe
>>>>>=
>>>>>>hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of
>>=
>>>>>>PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and
>>I
>>>> =
>>>>>>want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the
>>>>>>Multiface
>>>>>=
>>>>>>and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and I
>>>>>>don't
>>>>>=
>>>>>>really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if
> I
>>=
>>>>>>can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS
> =
>>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
>>=
>>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but
>>>> =
>>>>>>the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the
>>>>>>number
>>>>>=
>>>>>>of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and
>>=
>>>>>>this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no
> =
>>>>>>matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get
>>a
>>>> =
>>>>>>PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to
>>>>>>interface
>>>>>=
>>>>>>PCIe anyway?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
>>>>>>horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming
> down
>>>>>=
>>>>>>over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for
> my
>>>> =
>>>>>>Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
>>of
>>>>>=
>>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>>> =
>>>>>>on EBay).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
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>>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>>><BODY>
>>>>>><DIV>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in
>>a
>>>>>=
>>>>>>few months.=20
>>>>>>I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go
>>>>>>there,=20
>>>>>>soooo......</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking at:</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X
>>=
>>>>>>ATX Intel=20
>>>>>>Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><A=20
>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059"=
>>>>>>><FONT=20
>>>>>>face=3DArial=20
>>>>>>size=3D2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059=
>>>>>></FONT></A></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield
>>=
>>>>>>2.66GHz 2 x=20
>>>>>>4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
>>>>>>GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011=
>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2
>>>>>>SDRAM
>>>>>=
>>>>>>DDR2 800=20
>>>>>>(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB =
>>>>>>128-bit GDDR3 PCI=20
>>>>>>Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power
>>>>>>Supply
>>>>>=
>>>>>>115/230 V=20
>>>>>>UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
>>>>>>FONT></P><FONT=20
>>>>>>face=3DArial size=3D2>
>>>>>><P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
>>>>>>System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
>>>>>> Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
>>>>>> ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
>>>>>>ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT ></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have a
> =
>>>>>>workable 10+ GHZ=20
>>>>>>system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry
> =
>>>>>>about ASIO=20
>>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>inserts/sends
>>>>>=
>>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
>>=
>>>>>>hardware=20
>>>>>>without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI
>>=
>>>>>>stuff and I=20
>>>>>>would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista
>>=
>>>>>>and run 8G=20
>>>>>>of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP
>>>>>>configuration
>>>>>=
>>>>>>I've got now=20
>>>>>>with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the =
>>>>>>ADI8-DS units=20
>>>>>>and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe
> =
>>>>>>hardware if=20
>>>>>>I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS
>>=
>>>>>>
>>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the
>>>>>>PCi>PCIe=20
>>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but
>>>> =
>>>>>>the new=20
>>>>>>mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number of
> =
>>>>>>cards I want=20
>>>>>>to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need
>>to
>>>>>=
>>>>>>be 64=20
>>>>>>bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it. So
>>=
>>>>>>why=20
>>>>>>upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
>>>>>>hold all my=20
>>>>>>PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the move
>>>> =
>>>>>>now (besides=20
>>>>>>wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's =
>>>>>>will be=20
>>>>>>coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able
>>to
>>>>>=
>>>>>>get for=20
>>>>>>my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are
>>>>>>capable
>>>>>=
>>>>>>of=20
>>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>>> =
>>>>>>on=20
>>>>>>EBay).</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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| Re: I want to get 64bit/ Vista ready and have more horsepower now....soooo [message #83530 is a reply to message #83525] |
Sat, 21 April 2007 10:36 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Senior Member |
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Ubuntu didn't inherit only a package manager from Debian. All Debian releases
are named after a character in Toy Story. Sid, Etch, Potato, etc. It's just
more fun as a geek to say 'Are you running Etch in production?' than it is
to say 'Are you at 5.3 yet?' Ubuntu releases are all two words, alliterative,
and the second word is an animal. Feisty Fawn. Edgy Eft. Warty Warthog. The
next big release is 7.10 (an Ubuntu .10 release is sort of the end of the
road for that version) is . . . Gutsy Gibbon.
TCB
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>Feisty Fawn?? ............when will Salivating Satyr be released?
>
>;o)
>
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:462a26ac$1@linux...
>>
>> OK, I'll try to be nice here. I'm hungover after a long night out with,
>> well,
>> a friend. OS X _might_ be the easy way to run _Unix_, but it has
>> absolutely
>> nothing to do with _linux_. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Not at the technical
>> level, not at the licensing level, not at the moral level, not at the
>> community
>> level, not at the pricing level.
>>
>> I realize you probably don't make those distinctions, but I actually take
>> offense at OS X being equated with linux. And I respond to DC regularly
so
>> I don't take offense at the drop of a hat.
>>
>> If you would like to take a look at actual linux, Ubuntu 7 just released,
>> Feisty Fawn. The install CD is actually a live CD, so you can boot off
the
>> CD and poke around a bit if you like. Beryl is installed but not enabled
>> by default, and if you turn it on you'll have all the eye candy you could
>> possible want, and not be stuck with a proprietary OS.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I wouldn't think it's like you to buy a Mac... I mean, for starters
>>>they're
>>>reliable...
>>>
>>>...and secondly, there's a point of view from which you could say that
a
>>>Mac is "the easy way" to run Linux. ;o) And since when did you start doing
>>>things the easy way? ;o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>Not now silly.........later when I know how evil it really is so I can
>>
>>>>appreciate, take full responsibility for and properly savor the grief
>>>>that
>>>
>>>>it will cause in my life when I intentionally, and with aforethought,
>>>>make
>>>
>>>>the transition.................however, from what I'm hearing, there
may
>>>be
>>>>some *real* advantages to Vista as far as performance of multicore CPU's.
>>>
>>>>Win XP multicore support is more of a kludge, or so I'm hearing (though
>>>
>>>>Vista itself may be a kludge too). The ability to run lots of RAM is
>>>>always
>>>
>>>>a good thing and if Vista is better at supporting multicore CPU's perhaps
>>>it
>>>>would be preferable to XP-64.
>>>>
>>>>God forbid I should buy a Mac.
>>>>
>>>>;oD
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4629399a@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeh I'm not sure why you'd want to go Vista Deej.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is why I posted the Linux on a laptop question the other day.
If
>>>at
>>>>> all possible my Windows career is going to stop on XP. I'll still need
>>>at
>>>>> least one XP or 98 install for Paris, but I can run everything else
on
>>>
>>>>> Linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...audio software may be another thing, though I'm confident 2 years
>> from
>>>>> now we'll see movement towards Linux from mainstream audio apps also.
>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile,
>>>>> I imagine they will continue to support XP.
>>>>>
>>>>> XP support will be around a long while, as 98 was. Remember the bad
>>>>> press
>>>>> Windows ME got? And 98 ended up outlasting ME because of this. Now
look
>>>
>>>>> how
>>>>> much MORE bad press Vista has had.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows days are over dude... IMHO... don't go Vista...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No Vista! Bad Deej! No biscuit! You spend night in kennel!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the
=
>>>>>>>writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA
>> 775
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual
=
>>>>>>>Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
>>>>>>>Video
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>Card-$119.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
>>>>>>>Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>rough total: $3599.96
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that
=
>>>>>>>*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO
=
>>>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>>inserts/sends
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with
>> PCIe
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination
of
>>>=
>>>>>>>PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and
>>>I
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the
>>>>>>>Multiface
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and I
>>>>>>>don't
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if
>> I
>>>=
>>>>>>>can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS
>> =
>>>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
>>>=
>>>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo,
but
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the
>>>>>>>number
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and
>>>=
>>>>>>>this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no
>> =
>>>>>>>matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get
>>>a
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to
>>>>>>>interface
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>PCIe anyway?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
>>>>>>>horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming
>> down
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for
>> my
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
>>>of
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>on EBay).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>>>><BODY>
>>>>>>><DIV>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be
in
>>>a
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>few months.=20
>>>>>>>I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go
>>>>>>>there,=20
>>>>>>>soooo......</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking at:</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X
>>>=
>>>>>>>ATX Intel=20
>>>>>>>Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059"=
>>>>>>>><FONT=20
>>>>>>>face=3DArial=20
>>>>>>>size=3D2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059=
>>>>>>></FONT></A></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield
>>>=
>>>>>>>2.66GHz 2 x=20
>>>>>>>4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
>>>>>>>GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011=
>>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
>>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2
>>>>>>>SDRAM
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>DDR2 800=20
>>>>>>>(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
>>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
>>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB
=
>>>>>>>128-bit GDDR3 PCI=20
>>>>>>>Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
>>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
>>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power
>>>>>>>Supply
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>115/230 V=20
>>>>>>>UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
>>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
>>>>>>>FONT></P><FONT=20
>>>>>>>face=3DArial size=3D2>
>>>>>>><P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
>>>>>>>System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
>>>>>>> Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
>>>>>>> ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
>>>>>>>ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT ></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have
a
>> =
>>>>>>>workable 10+ GHZ=20
>>>>>>>system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry
>> =
>>>>>>>about ASIO=20
>>>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>>inserts/sends
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>>still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
>>>=
>>>>>>>hardware=20
>>>>>>>without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI
>>>=
>>>>>>>stuff and I=20
>>>>>>>would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista
>>>=
>>>>>>>and run 8G=20
>>>>>>>of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP
>>>>>>>configuration
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>I've got now=20
>>>>>>>with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the
=
>>>>>>>ADI8-DS units=20
>>>>>>>and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe
>> =
>>>>>>>hardware if=20
>>>>>>>I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi
SBS
>>>=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the
>>>>>>>PCi>PCIe=20
>>>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo,
but
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>the new=20
>>>>>>>mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number of
>> =
>>>>>>>cards I want=20
>>>>>>>to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need
>>>to
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>be 64=20
>>>>>>>bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it.
So
>>>=
>>>>>>>why=20
>>>>>>>upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
>>>>>>>hold all my=20
>>>>>>>PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the
move
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>now (besides=20
>>>>>>>wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's =
>>>>>>>will be=20
>>>>>>>coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able
>>>to
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>get for=20
>>>>>>>my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are
>>>>>>>capable
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>of=20
>>>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>on=20
>>>>>>>EBay).</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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| TCB - Ubuntu/XGL [message #83531 is a reply to message #83522] |
Sat, 21 April 2007 10:51 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
|
Senior Member |
|
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Thad - have you used/are you using XGL/Compiz? I came across a video
demo of it - looks like it blows away the eye candy of Vista and OSX, at
least from what
I saw in the video. A bit over the top for normal audio or business app
use, but I'm impressed
lots of cool workflow possibilities there.
If we were to get widespread audio app and driver support (and a few other
apps/tools I would be dead in the
water without), I would happily move to Ubuntu, but that's probably a long
way off, if ever.
Is it possible to network an Ubuntu/linux system with Windows XP machines?
I might consider
dual booting my laptop just for the heck of it. I'm guessing it is, at
least on the linux end...
Regards,
Dedric
"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:462a26ac$1@linux...
>
> OK, I'll try to be nice here. I'm hungover after a long night out with,
> well,
> a friend. OS X _might_ be the easy way to run _Unix_, but it has
> absolutely
> nothing to do with _linux_. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Not at the technical
> level, not at the licensing level, not at the moral level, not at the
> community
> level, not at the pricing level.
>
> I realize you probably don't make those distinctions, but I actually take
> offense at OS X being equated with linux. And I respond to DC regularly so
> I don't take offense at the drop of a hat.
>
> If you would like to take a look at actual linux, Ubuntu 7 just released,
> Feisty Fawn. The install CD is actually a live CD, so you can boot off the
> CD and poke around a bit if you like. Beryl is installed but not enabled
> by default, and if you turn it on you'll have all the eye candy you could
> possible want, and not be stuck with a proprietary OS.
>
> TCB
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I wouldn't think it's like you to buy a Mac... I mean, for starters
>>they're
>>reliable...
>>
>>...and secondly, there's a point of view from which you could say that a
>>Mac is "the easy way" to run Linux. ;o) And since when did you start doing
>>things the easy way? ;o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>>
>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>Not now silly.........later when I know how evil it really is so I can
>
>>>appreciate, take full responsibility for and properly savor the grief
>>>that
>>
>>>it will cause in my life when I intentionally, and with aforethought,
>>>make
>>
>>>the transition.................however, from what I'm hearing, there may
>>be
>>>some *real* advantages to Vista as far as performance of multicore CPU's.
>>
>>>Win XP multicore support is more of a kludge, or so I'm hearing (though
>>
>>>Vista itself may be a kludge too). The ability to run lots of RAM is
>>>always
>>
>>>a good thing and if Vista is better at supporting multicore CPU's perhaps
>>it
>>>would be preferable to XP-64.
>>>
>>>God forbid I should buy a Mac.
>>>
>>>;oD
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4629399a@linux...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeh I'm not sure why you'd want to go Vista Deej.
>>>>
>>>> That is why I posted the Linux on a laptop question the other day. If
>>at
>>>> all possible my Windows career is going to stop on XP. I'll still need
>>at
>>>> least one XP or 98 install for Paris, but I can run everything else on
>>
>>>> Linux...
>>>>
>>>> ...audio software may be another thing, though I'm confident 2 years
> from
>>>> now we'll see movement towards Linux from mainstream audio apps also.
>>
>>>> Meanwhile,
>>>> I imagine they will continue to support XP.
>>>>
>>>> XP support will be around a long while, as 98 was. Remember the bad
>>>> press
>>>> Windows ME got? And 98 ended up outlasting ME because of this. Now look
>>
>>>> how
>>>> much MORE bad press Vista has had.
>>>>
>>>> Windows days are over dude... IMHO... don't go Vista...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>No Vista! Bad Deej! No biscuit! You spend night in kennel!
>>>>>
>>>>>TCB
>>>>>
>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the =
>>>>>>writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA
> 775
>>>>>=
>>>>>>Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
>>>>>>
>>>>>>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual =
>>>>>>Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
>>>>>>
>>>>>>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
>>>>>>Video
>>>>>=
>>>>>>Card-$119.99
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
>>>>>>
>>>>>>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
>>>>>>Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>rough total: $3599.96
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that =
>>>>>>*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO =
>>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>inserts/sends
>>>>>=
>>>>>>and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with
> PCIe
>>>>>=
>>>>>>hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of
>>=
>>>>>>PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and
>>I
>>>> =
>>>>>>want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the
>>>>>>Multiface
>>>>>=
>>>>>>and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and I
>>>>>>don't
>>>>>=
>>>>>>really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if
> I
>>=
>>>>>>can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS
> =
>>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
>>=
>>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but
>>>> =
>>>>>>the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the
>>>>>>number
>>>>>=
>>>>>>of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and
>>=
>>>>>>this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no
> =
>>>>>>matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get
>>a
>>>> =
>>>>>>PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to
>>>>>>interface
>>>>>=
>>>>>>PCIe anyway?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
>>>>>>horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming
> down
>>>>>=
>>>>>>over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for
> my
>>>> =
>>>>>>Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
>>of
>>>>>=
>>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>>> =
>>>>>>on EBay).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in
>>a
>>>>>=
>>>>>>few months.=20
>>>>>>I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go
>>>>>>there,=20
>>>>>>soooo......</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking at:</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X
>>=
>>>>>>ATX Intel=20
>>>>>>Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><A=20
>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059"=
>>>>>>><FONT=20
>>>>>>face=3DArial=20
>>>>>>size=3D2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059=
>>>>>></FONT></A></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield
>>=
>>>>>>2.66GHz 2 x=20
>>>>>>4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
>>>>>>GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011=
>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2
>>>>>>SDRAM
>>>>>=
>>>>>>DDR2 800=20
>>>>>>(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB =
>>>>>>128-bit GDDR3 PCI=20
>>>>>>Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power
>>>>>>Supply
>>>>>=
>>>>>>115/230 V=20
>>>>>>UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
>>>>>>FONT></P><FONT=20
>>>>>>face=3DArial size=3D2>
>>>>>><P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
>>>>>>System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
>>>>>> Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
>>>>>> ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
>>>>>>ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT ></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have a
> =
>>>>>>workable 10+ GHZ=20
>>>>>>system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry
> =
>>>>>>about ASIO=20
>>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>inserts/sends
>>>>>=
>>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
>>=
>>>>>>hardware=20
>>>>>>without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI
>>=
>>>>>>stuff and I=20
>>>>>>would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista
>>=
>>>>>>and run 8G=20
>>>>>>of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP
>>>>>>configuration
>>>>>=
>>>>>>I've got now=20
>>>>>>with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the =
>>>>>>ADI8-DS units=20
>>>>>>and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe
> =
>>>>>>hardware if=20
>>>>>>I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS
>>=
>>>>>>
>>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the
>>>>>>PCi>PCIe=20
>>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo, but
>>>> =
>>>>>>the new=20
>>>>>>mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number of
> =
>>>>>>cards I want=20
>>>>>>to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need
>>to
>>>>>=
>>>>>>be 64=20
>>>>>>bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it. So
>>=
>>>>>>why=20
>>>>>>upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
>>>>>>hold all my=20
>>>>>>PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the move
>>>> =
>>>>>>now (besides=20
>>>>>>wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's =
>>>>>>will be=20
>>>>>>coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able
>>to
>>>>>=
>>>>>>get for=20
>>>>>>my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are
>>>>>>capable
>>>>>=
>>>>>>of=20
>>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>>> =
>>>>>>on=20
>>>>>>EBay).</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
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OK, here's another possibility that looks much more flexible for the =
short term:
MOBO:=20
http://www.atacom.com/program/print_html_new.cgi?cart_id=3D8 94775_205_201=
_214_238&Pagecode=3DSEARCH_ALL&Item_code=3DMBKF_TYAN _NF_08&USER_ID=3Dwww
$377.95 Great reviews on this on the Nuendo forum with UAD-1 cards in a =
Magma (and it just so happens....;o)
I am also hearing some cool stuff about this mobo but don't know about =
it's UAD-1 compatibility:
http://www.lagoom.com/ASUS_L1N64-SLI_WS_Dual_Socket_L1/L1N64 -SLI_WS/parti=
nfo-id-570627.html
$325.00 - I've seen a thread where it says that this mobo will be AMD =
Quad and Octo upgradable. I don't know about the Tyan, but if they have =
the same ZIF, I can't imagine why it wouldn't be upgradable to Quad or =
Octo as well.
CPU-2 of these:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=3DN82E1681910 3866
$858.00 My thinking is that if a doubling of an existing processing unit =
produces a 40% increase of performance according to the Steiny forums, =
then, in theory, if I doubled my 5.2GHz opteron 185, and took 40% of the =
second 5.2 GHz CPU, my system would be running at a theoretical 7.26GHz
Now if I take that same scaling model and apply it to the Opteron 1207, =
I'm running the first two cores at 6GHz. Add the second CPU and assume =
that 40% of that 6Ghz for the second two cores would actually be =
available in Cubase 4 for processing duties and, in theory I'm looking =
at having around 8.4GHz available for use in Cubase 4.
Divide my existing 5.2GHz CPU by 8.4GHz and we're looking at a =
theoretical 62% increase in processing power. That's pretty significant =
and might provide me the extra horses to do the low latency full time =
thing while monitoring with FX if I didn't get too overboard. In any =
event, I *might* be able to approach what Paris can do now on modest =
projects (isn't that sick?)
the RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=3DN82E1682022 7187
The total with a new PSU and video card would be around $1800.00....or =
less if I just went with 2GHz RAM for now. Just a little more than the =
single socket Quad core Intel system. I'm seeing user reviews that say =
that these Opterons either smoke the Intel Xeons dual cores, or are at =
least as fast. One big advantage I see to going with this dual socket =
setup is that, at least from what I'm hearing with the ASUS mobo, I'll =
be able to drop dual AMD quads or Octos in it if need be. The other big =
advantage is that I can run my UAD-1's/Magma via the 32 bit PCI slot in =
either one of them. With the Tyan, I can interface the other Magma with =
the RME cards via the PCIX slot. With the the ASUS I would have to =
spring for a PCIe interface for one of my Magmas ($299.00) and use the =
PCIe x 1 slot.. When 64bit OS becomes a must, I could still go with the =
SBS PCIe>PCI chassis and likely interface with either of these mobos.
The Tyan has much more in the way of options. It's a monster, but if it =
won't support future CPU upgrades, that's something to consider. I hope =
it will, because the chipsets NForce of the two mobos are different and =
this is sometimes a gotcha with UAD-1's and the TYAN has good reviews =
with UAD-1's if they are "Magma'ed".=20
This dual socket Opteron solution looks better to me than the single =
socket Intel Quad option, perhaps more future proof, at least for the =
short run..
OK guys.......shoot this down.....go ahead, rock my world.
;o)
"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:4629092d@linux...
Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the =
writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
Here's what I'm looking at:
Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA =
775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual =
Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 =
Video Card-$119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
=
http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
rough total: $3599.96
At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that =
*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO =
direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on inserts/sends =
and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe =
hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of =
PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I =
want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the =
Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units =
and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe =
hardware if I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe =
> PCi SBS chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the =
PCi>PCIe conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the =
mobo, but the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use =
the number of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis =
anyway....and this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k =
expense, no matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I =
can get a PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to =
interface PCIe anyway?
The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming down =
over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for my =
Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable of =
integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value =
on EBay).
Any thoughts?
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK, here's another possibility that =
looks much more=20
flexible for the short term:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>MOBO: </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D" http://www.atacom.com/program/print_html_new.cgi?cart_id=3D8 94775=
_205_201_214_238&Pagecode=3DSEARCH_ALL&Item_ code=3DMBKF_TYAN_NF_0=
8&USER_ID=3Dwww">http://www.atacom.com/program/print_html_new.cgi?car=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$377.95 Great reviews on this on the =
Nuendo forum=20
with UAD-1 cards in a Magma (and it just so happens....;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am also hearing some cool stuff about =
this mobo=20
but don't know about it's UAD-1 compatibility:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D" http://www.lagoom.com/ASUS_L1N64-SLI_WS_Dual_Socket_L1/L1N64 -SLI_=
WS/partinfo-id-570627.html">http://www.lagoom.com/ASUS_L1N64-SLI_WS_Dual_=
Socket_L1/L1N64-SLI_WS/partinfo-id-570627.html</A><A=20
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=3DN82E1681313 1146"=
></A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$325.00 - I've seen a thread where =
it says=20
that this mobo will be AMD Quad and Octo upgradable. I don't know about =
the=20
Tyan, but if they have the same ZIF, I can't imagine why it =
wouldn't=20
be upgradable to Quad or Octo as well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>CPU-2 of these:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=3DN82E1681910 3866"=
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=3DN82E1681910 3866</A></FO=
NT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$858.00 My thinking is =
that if a doubling=20
of an existing processing unit produces a 40% increase of performance =
according=20
to the Steiny forums, then, in theory, if I doubled my 5.2GHz opteron =
185, and=20
took 40% of the second 5.2 GHz CPU, my system would be running at a =
theoretical 7.26GHz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now if I take that same scaling model =
and apply it=20
to the Opteron 1207, I'm running the first two cores at 6GHz. Add =
the=20
second CPU and assume that 40% of that 6Ghz for the second two =
cores would=20
actually be available in Cubase 4 for processing duties and, =
in theory=20
I'm looking at having around 8.4GHz available for use in Cubase=20
4.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Divide my existing 5.2GHz CPU by 8.4GHz =
and we're=20
looking at a theoretical 62% increase in processing power. That's pretty =
significant and might provide me the extra horses to do the low latency =
full=20
time thing while monitoring with FX if I didn't get too overboard. In =
any event,=20
I *might* be able to approach what Paris can do now on modest projects =
(isn't=20
that sick?)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the RAM:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=3DN82E1682022 7187"=
> http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=3DN82E1682022 7187</A></FO=
NT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The total with a new PSU and video card =
would be=20
around $1800.00....or less if I just went with 2GHz RAM for now. Just a =
little=20
more than the single socket Quad core Intel system. I'm seeing user =
reviews=20
that say that these Opterons either smoke the Intel Xeons dual =
cores, or=20
are at least as fast. One big advantage I see to going with this =
dual=20
socket setup is that, at least from what I'm hearing with the ASUS mobo, =
I'll be=20
able to drop dual AMD quads or Octos in it if need be. The =
other big=20
advantage is that I can run my UAD-1's/Magma via the 32 bit PCI slot in =
either=20
one of them. With the Tyan, I can interface the other Magma with =
the RME=20
cards via the PCIX slot. With the the ASUS I would have =
to spring=20
for a PCIe interface for one of my Magmas ($299.00) and use the =
PCIe x 1=20
slot.. When 64bit OS becomes a must, I could still go with =
the=20
SBS PCIe>PCI chassis and likely interface with either of =
these=20
mobos.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The Tyan has much more in the way of =
options. It's=20
a monster, but if it won't support future CPU upgrades, that's =
something to=20
consider. I hope it will, because the chipsets NForce of the two mobos =
are=20
different and this is sometimes a gotcha with UAD-1's and the TYAN =
has good=20
reviews with UAD-1's if they are "Magma'ed". </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This dual socket Opteron solution looks =
better to=20
me than the single socket Intel Quad option, perhaps more future =
proof, at=20
least for the short run..</FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK guys.......shoot this down.....go=20
ahead, rock my world.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>;o)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV>"DJ" <<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com">www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A =
href=3D"news:4629092d@linux">news:4629092d@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in =
a few=20
months. I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go =
there,=20
soooo......</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking at:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X =
ATX Intel=20
Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
<P><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059"=
><FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059=
</FONT></A></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield =
2.66GHz 2 x=20
4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 =
SDRAM DDR2 800=20
(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB =
128-bit GDDR3=20
PCI Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power =
Supply 115/230 V=20
UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
FONT></P><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>
<P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have a =
workable 10+=20
GHZ system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to =
worry about=20
ASIO direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on =
inserts/sends=20
and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with =
PCIe=20
hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of =
PCIe/PCI=20
stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to =
go to=20
Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP =
configuration I've got=20
now with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the =
ADI8-DS=20
units and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 =
PCIe=20
hardware if I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the =
PCIe >=20
PCi SBS chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the=20
PCi>PCIe conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with =
the mobo,=20
but the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the =
number=20
of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and =
this=20
will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter =
how you=20
cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe =
chassis that=20
will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe =
anyway?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the move =
now=20
(besides wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of =
the CPU's=20
will be coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll =
be able=20
to get for my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of =
them are=20
capable of integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little =
added=20
value on EBay).</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
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| Re: TCB - Ubuntu/XGL [message #83536 is a reply to message #83531] |
Sat, 21 April 2007 13:59 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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Obviously the better the video card the better the performance. Beryl (mentioned
in the other post) pretty much _is_ Compiz, it's a fork of it though if i
recall they've sorted things out and are planning on merging back together
sometime this year. IMHO Beryl would be the way to go, but it might not work
on your laptop. I tried it just for kicks and the integrated video no my
i915 based chipset didn't allow for much.
Nevertheless, it's great tech, and really stable. It's not some shaky skin
over the windowing system, it's the real deal. If any of the big boys (Cubase,
Live, etc) announced they would do a linux version I'd be there in a heartbeat.
Finally, check out Ubuntu Studio. It's still in its infancy but it's essentially
Feisty with all of the best audio/video/graphic design apps pre-installed
and configured. I don't know if it will even ever happen but it's worth keeping
an eye on it.
TCB
"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>Thad - have you used/are you using XGL/Compiz? I came across a video
>demo of it - looks like it blows away the eye candy of Vista and OSX, at
>least from what
>I saw in the video. A bit over the top for normal audio or business app
>use, but I'm impressed
>lots of cool workflow possibilities there.
>
>If we were to get widespread audio app and driver support (and a few other
>apps/tools I would be dead in the
>water without), I would happily move to Ubuntu, but that's probably a long
>way off, if ever.
>
>Is it possible to network an Ubuntu/linux system with Windows XP machines?
>I might consider
>dual booting my laptop just for the heck of it. I'm guessing it is, at
>least on the linux end...
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:462a26ac$1@linux...
>>
>> OK, I'll try to be nice here. I'm hungover after a long night out with,
>> well,
>> a friend. OS X _might_ be the easy way to run _Unix_, but it has
>> absolutely
>> nothing to do with _linux_. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Not at the technical
>> level, not at the licensing level, not at the moral level, not at the
>> community
>> level, not at the pricing level.
>>
>> I realize you probably don't make those distinctions, but I actually take
>> offense at OS X being equated with linux. And I respond to DC regularly
so
>> I don't take offense at the drop of a hat.
>>
>> If you would like to take a look at actual linux, Ubuntu 7 just released,
>> Feisty Fawn. The install CD is actually a live CD, so you can boot off
the
>> CD and poke around a bit if you like. Beryl is installed but not enabled
>> by default, and if you turn it on you'll have all the eye candy you could
>> possible want, and not be stuck with a proprietary OS.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I wouldn't think it's like you to buy a Mac... I mean, for starters
>>>they're
>>>reliable...
>>>
>>>...and secondly, there's a point of view from which you could say that
a
>>>Mac is "the easy way" to run Linux. ;o) And since when did you start doing
>>>things the easy way? ;o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>Not now silly.........later when I know how evil it really is so I can
>>
>>>>appreciate, take full responsibility for and properly savor the grief
>>>>that
>>>
>>>>it will cause in my life when I intentionally, and with aforethought,
>>>>make
>>>
>>>>the transition.................however, from what I'm hearing, there
may
>>>be
>>>>some *real* advantages to Vista as far as performance of multicore CPU's.
>>>
>>>>Win XP multicore support is more of a kludge, or so I'm hearing (though
>>>
>>>>Vista itself may be a kludge too). The ability to run lots of RAM is
>>>>always
>>>
>>>>a good thing and if Vista is better at supporting multicore CPU's perhaps
>>>it
>>>>would be preferable to XP-64.
>>>>
>>>>God forbid I should buy a Mac.
>>>>
>>>>;oD
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4629399a@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeh I'm not sure why you'd want to go Vista Deej.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is why I posted the Linux on a laptop question the other day.
If
>>>at
>>>>> all possible my Windows career is going to stop on XP. I'll still need
>>>at
>>>>> least one XP or 98 install for Paris, but I can run everything else
on
>>>
>>>>> Linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...audio software may be another thing, though I'm confident 2 years
>> from
>>>>> now we'll see movement towards Linux from mainstream audio apps also.
>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile,
>>>>> I imagine they will continue to support XP.
>>>>>
>>>>> XP support will be around a long while, as 98 was. Remember the bad
>>>>> press
>>>>> Windows ME got? And 98 ended up outlasting ME because of this. Now
look
>>>
>>>>> how
>>>>> much MORE bad press Vista has had.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows days are over dude... IMHO... don't go Vista...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No Vista! Bad Deej! No biscuit! You spend night in kennel!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the
=
>>>>>>>writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA
>> 775
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual
=
>>>>>>>Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
>>>>>>>Video
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>Card-$119.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
>>>>>>>Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>rough total: $3599.96
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that
=
>>>>>>>*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO
=
>>>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>>inserts/sends
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with
>> PCIe
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination
of
>>>=
>>>>>>>PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and
>>>I
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the
>>>>>>>Multiface
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and I
>>>>>>>don't
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if
>> I
>>>=
>>>>>>>can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS
>> =
>>>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
>>>=
>>>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo,
but
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the
>>>>>>>number
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and
>>>=
>>>>>>>this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no
>> =
>>>>>>>matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get
>>>a
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to
>>>>>>>interface
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>PCIe anyway?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
>>>>>>>horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming
>> down
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for
>> my
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
>>>of
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>on EBay).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be
in
>>>a
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>few months.=20
>>>>>>>I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go
>>>>>>>there,=20
>>>>>>>soooo......</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking at:</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X
>>>=
>>>>>>>ATX Intel=20
>>>>>>>Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059"=
>>>>>>>><FONT=20
>>>>>>>face=3DArial=20
>>>>>>>size=3D2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059=
>>>>>>></FONT></A></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield
>>>=
>>>>>>>2.66GHz 2 x=20
>>>>>>>4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
>>>>>>>GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011=
>>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
>>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2
>>>>>>>SDRAM
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>DDR2 800=20
>>>>>>>(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
>>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
>>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB
=
>>>>>>>128-bit GDDR3 PCI=20
>>>>>>>Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
>>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
>>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power
>>>>>>>Supply
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>115/230 V=20
>>>>>>>UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
>>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
>>>>>>>FONT></P><FONT=20
>>>>>>>face=3DArial size=3D2>
>>>>>>><P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
>>>>>>>System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
>>>>>>> Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
>>>>>>> ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
>>>>>>>ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT ></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have
a
>> =
>>>>>>>workable 10+ GHZ=20
>>>>>>>system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry
>> =
>>>>>>>about ASIO=20
>>>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>>inserts/sends
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>>still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
>>>=
>>>>>>>hardware=20
>>>>>>>without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI
>>>=
>>>>>>>stuff and I=20
>>>>>>>would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista
>>>=
>>>>>>>and run 8G=20
>>>>>>>of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP
>>>>>>>configuration
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>I've got now=20
>>>>>>>with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the
=
>>>>>>>ADI8-DS units=20
>>>>>>>and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe
>> =
>>>>>>>hardware if=20
>>>>>>>I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi
SBS
>>>=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the
>>>>>>>PCi>PCIe=20
>>>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo,
but
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>the new=20
>>>>>>>mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number of
>> =
>>>>>>>cards I want=20
>>>>>>>to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need
>>>to
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>be 64=20
>>>>>>>bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it.
So
>>>=
>>>>>>>why=20
>>>>>>>upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
>>>>>>>hold all my=20
>>>>>>>PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the
move
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>now (besides=20
>>>>>>>wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's =
>>>>>>>will be=20
>>>>>>>coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able
>>>to
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>get for=20
>>>>>>>my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are
>>>>>>>capable
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>of=20
>>>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>on=20
>>>>>>>EBay).</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
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| Re: TCB - Ubuntu/XGL [message #83545 is a reply to message #83531] |
Sun, 22 April 2007 07:24 |
chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005
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Senior Member |
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Dedric,
Friends don't let friends dual boot :-) If you want to play, get Virtual
PC 2007 (free download) or Virtual Box (free download) and run anything you
want in virtual machines. The ultimate playground. I've gone through at
least 6 linux distros, full installs and checked em out without touching
one byte of the physical machine :-)
Chuck
"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>Thad - have you used/are you using XGL/Compiz? I came across a video
>demo of it - looks like it blows away the eye candy of Vista and OSX, at
>least from what
>I saw in the video. A bit over the top for normal audio or business app
>use, but I'm impressed
>lots of cool workflow possibilities there.
>
>If we were to get widespread audio app and driver support (and a few other
>apps/tools I would be dead in the
>water without), I would happily move to Ubuntu, but that's probably a long
>way off, if ever.
>
>Is it possible to network an Ubuntu/linux system with Windows XP machines?
>I might consider
>dual booting my laptop just for the heck of it. I'm guessing it is, at
>least on the linux end...
>
>Regards,
>Dedric
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:462a26ac$1@linux...
>>
>> OK, I'll try to be nice here. I'm hungover after a long night out with,
>> well,
>> a friend. OS X _might_ be the easy way to run _Unix_, but it has
>> absolutely
>> nothing to do with _linux_. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Not at the technical
>> level, not at the licensing level, not at the moral level, not at the
>> community
>> level, not at the pricing level.
>>
>> I realize you probably don't make those distinctions, but I actually take
>> offense at OS X being equated with linux. And I respond to DC regularly
so
>> I don't take offense at the drop of a hat.
>>
>> If you would like to take a look at actual linux, Ubuntu 7 just released,
>> Feisty Fawn. The install CD is actually a live CD, so you can boot off
the
>> CD and poke around a bit if you like. Beryl is installed but not enabled
>> by default, and if you turn it on you'll have all the eye candy you could
>> possible want, and not be stuck with a proprietary OS.
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>I wouldn't think it's like you to buy a Mac... I mean, for starters
>>>they're
>>>reliable...
>>>
>>>...and secondly, there's a point of view from which you could say that
a
>>>Mac is "the easy way" to run Linux. ;o) And since when did you start doing
>>>things the easy way? ;o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>Not now silly.........later when I know how evil it really is so I can
>>
>>>>appreciate, take full responsibility for and properly savor the grief
>>>>that
>>>
>>>>it will cause in my life when I intentionally, and with aforethought,
>>>>make
>>>
>>>>the transition.................however, from what I'm hearing, there
may
>>>be
>>>>some *real* advantages to Vista as far as performance of multicore CPU's.
>>>
>>>>Win XP multicore support is more of a kludge, or so I'm hearing (though
>>>
>>>>Vista itself may be a kludge too). The ability to run lots of RAM is
>>>>always
>>>
>>>>a good thing and if Vista is better at supporting multicore CPU's perhaps
>>>it
>>>>would be preferable to XP-64.
>>>>
>>>>God forbid I should buy a Mac.
>>>>
>>>>;oD
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4629399a@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeh I'm not sure why you'd want to go Vista Deej.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is why I posted the Linux on a laptop question the other day.
If
>>>at
>>>>> all possible my Windows career is going to stop on XP. I'll still need
>>>at
>>>>> least one XP or 98 install for Paris, but I can run everything else
on
>>>
>>>>> Linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...audio software may be another thing, though I'm confident 2 years
>> from
>>>>> now we'll see movement towards Linux from mainstream audio apps also.
>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile,
>>>>> I imagine they will continue to support XP.
>>>>>
>>>>> XP support will be around a long while, as 98 was. Remember the bad
>>>>> press
>>>>> Windows ME got? And 98 ended up outlasting ME because of this. Now
look
>>>
>>>>> how
>>>>> much MORE bad press Vista has had.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows days are over dude... IMHO... don't go Vista...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No Vista! Bad Deej! No biscuit! You spend night in kennel!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the
=
>>>>>>>writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA
>> 775
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual
=
>>>>>>>Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
>>>>>>>Video
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>Card-$119.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
>>>>>>>Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>rough total: $3599.96
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that
=
>>>>>>>*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO
=
>>>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>>inserts/sends
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with
>> PCIe
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination
of
>>>=
>>>>>>>PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and
>>>I
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the
>>>>>>>Multiface
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and I
>>>>>>>don't
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if
>> I
>>>=
>>>>>>>can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS
>> =
>>>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
>>>=
>>>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo,
but
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the
>>>>>>>number
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and
>>>=
>>>>>>>this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no
>> =
>>>>>>>matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get
>>>a
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to
>>>>>>>interface
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>PCIe anyway?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
>>>>>>>horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming
>> down
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for
>> my
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
>>>of
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>on EBay).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>>>><BODY>
>>>>>>><DIV>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be
in
>>>a
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>few months.=20
>>>>>>>I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go
>>>>>>>there,=20
>>>>>>>soooo......</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking at:</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X
>>>=
>>>>>>>ATX Intel=20
>>>>>>>Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059"=
>>>>>>>><FONT=20
>>>>>>>face=3DArial=20
>>>>>>>size=3D2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059=
>>>>>>></FONT></A></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield
>>>=
>>>>>>>2.66GHz 2 x=20
>>>>>>>4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
>>>>>>>GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011=
>>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
>>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2
>>>>>>>SDRAM
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>DDR2 800=20
>>>>>>>(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
>>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
>>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB
=
>>>>>>>128-bit GDDR3 PCI=20
>>>>>>>Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
>>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
>>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power
>>>>>>>Supply
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>115/230 V=20
>>>>>>>UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
>>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
>>>>>>>FONT></P><FONT=20
>>>>>>>face=3DArial size=3D2>
>>>>>>><P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
>>>>>>>System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
>>>>>>> Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
>>>>>>> ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
>>>>>>>ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT ></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have
a
>> =
>>>>>>>workable 10+ GHZ=20
>>>>>>>system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry
>> =
>>>>>>>about ASIO=20
>>>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>>inserts/sends
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>>still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
>>>=
>>>>>>>hardware=20
>>>>>>>without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI
>>>=
>>>>>>>stuff and I=20
>>>>>>>would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista
>>>=
>>>>>>>and run 8G=20
>>>>>>>of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP
>>>>>>>configuration
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>I've got now=20
>>>>>>>with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the
=
>>>>>>>ADI8-DS units=20
>>>>>>>and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe
>> =
>>>>>>>hardware if=20
>>>>>>>I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi
SBS
>>>=
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the
>>>>>>>PCi>PCIe=20
>>>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo,
but
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>the new=20
>>>>>>>mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number of
>> =
>>>>>>>cards I want=20
>>>>>>>to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need
>>>to
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>be 64=20
>>>>>>>bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it.
So
>>>=
>>>>>>>why=20
>>>>>>>upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
>>>>>>>hold all my=20
>>>>>>>PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the
move
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>now (besides=20
>>>>>>>wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's =
>>>>>>>will be=20
>>>>>>>coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able
>>>to
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>get for=20
>>>>>>>my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are
>>>>>>>capable
>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>of=20
>>>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>>>> =
>>>>>>>on=20
>>>>>>>EBay).</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: TCB - Ubuntu/XGL [message #83550 is a reply to message #83545] |
Sun, 22 April 2007 09:02 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
|
Senior Member |
|
|
Thanks Chuck, and Thad - that sounds like a good way to give them a spin
at least for the fun of it (yeah, I'm not too fond of dual booting).
Maybe someday an iteration of linux will be an option for pro audio.
Regards,
Dedric
On 4/22/07 8:24 AM, in article 462b7034$1@linux, "chuck duffy" <c@c.com>
wrote:
>
> Dedric,
>
> Friends don't let friends dual boot :-) If you want to play, get Virtual
> PC 2007 (free download) or Virtual Box (free download) and run anything you
> want in virtual machines. The ultimate playground. I've gone through at
> least 6 linux distros, full installs and checked em out without touching
> one byte of the physical machine :-)
>
> Chuck
>
> "Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>> Thad - have you used/are you using XGL/Compiz? I came across a video
>> demo of it - looks like it blows away the eye candy of Vista and OSX, at
>
>> least from what
>> I saw in the video. A bit over the top for normal audio or business app
>
>> use, but I'm impressed
>> lots of cool workflow possibilities there.
>>
>> If we were to get widespread audio app and driver support (and a few other
>
>> apps/tools I would be dead in the
>> water without), I would happily move to Ubuntu, but that's probably a long
>
>> way off, if ever.
>>
>> Is it possible to network an Ubuntu/linux system with Windows XP machines?
>
>> I might consider
>> dual booting my laptop just for the heck of it. I'm guessing it is, at
>
>> least on the linux end...
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dedric
>>
>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:462a26ac$1@linux...
>>>
>>> OK, I'll try to be nice here. I'm hungover after a long night out with,
>
>>> well,
>>> a friend. OS X _might_ be the easy way to run _Unix_, but it has
>>> absolutely
>>> nothing to do with _linux_. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Not at the technical
>>> level, not at the licensing level, not at the moral level, not at the
>
>>> community
>>> level, not at the pricing level.
>>>
>>> I realize you probably don't make those distinctions, but I actually take
>>> offense at OS X being equated with linux. And I respond to DC regularly
> so
>>> I don't take offense at the drop of a hat.
>>>
>>> If you would like to take a look at actual linux, Ubuntu 7 just released,
>>> Feisty Fawn. The install CD is actually a live CD, so you can boot off
> the
>>> CD and poke around a bit if you like. Beryl is installed but not enabled
>>> by default, and if you turn it on you'll have all the eye candy you could
>>> possible want, and not be stuck with a proprietary OS.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't think it's like you to buy a Mac... I mean, for starters
>>>> they're
>>>> reliable...
>>>>
>>>> ...and secondly, there's a point of view from which you could say that
> a
>>>> Mac is "the easy way" to run Linux. ;o) And since when did you start doing
>>>> things the easy way? ;o)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kim.
>>>>
>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>> Not now silly.........later when I know how evil it really is so I can
>>>
>>>>> appreciate, take full responsibility for and properly savor the grief
>
>>>>> that
>>>>
>>>>> it will cause in my life when I intentionally, and with aforethought,
>
>>>>> make
>>>>
>>>>> the transition.................however, from what I'm hearing, there
> may
>>>> be
>>>>> some *real* advantages to Vista as far as performance of multicore CPU's.
>>>>
>>>>> Win XP multicore support is more of a kludge, or so I'm hearing (though
>>>>
>>>>> Vista itself may be a kludge too). The ability to run lots of RAM is
>
>>>>> always
>>>>
>>>>> a good thing and if Vista is better at supporting multicore CPU's perhaps
>>>> it
>>>>> would be preferable to XP-64.
>>>>>
>>>>> God forbid I should buy a Mac.
>>>>>
>>>>> ;oD
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4629399a@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeh I'm not sure why you'd want to go Vista Deej.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is why I posted the Linux on a laptop question the other day.
> If
>>>> at
>>>>>> all possible my Windows career is going to stop on XP. I'll still need
>>>> at
>>>>>> least one XP or 98 install for Paris, but I can run everything else
> on
>>>>
>>>>>> Linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...audio software may be another thing, though I'm confident 2 years
>>> from
>>>>>> now we'll see movement towards Linux from mainstream audio apps also.
>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile,
>>>>>> I imagine they will continue to support XP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> XP support will be around a long while, as 98 was. Remember the bad
>
>>>>>> press
>>>>>> Windows ME got? And 98 ended up outlasting ME because of this. Now
> look
>>>>
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> much MORE bad press Vista has had.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows days are over dude... IMHO... don't go Vista...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No Vista! Bad Deej! No biscuit! You spend night in kennel!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TCB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the
> =
>>>>>>>> writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA
>>> 775
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual
> =
>>>>>>>> Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
>
>>>>>>>> Video
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> Card-$119.99
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystem
>>>>>>>> s/=
>>>>>>>> Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> rough total: $3599.96
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that
> =
>>>>>>>> *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO
> =
>>>>>>>> direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>>> inserts/sends
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with
>>> PCIe
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination
> of
>>>> =
>>>>>>>> PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and
>>>> I
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the
>>>>>>>> Multiface
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and I
>
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware if
>>> I
>>>> =
>>>>>>>> can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS
>>> =
>>>>>>>> chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
>>>> =
>>>>>>>> conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo,
> but
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the
>
>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and
>>>> =
>>>>>>>> this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no
>>> =
>>>>>>>> matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get
>>>> a
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to
>>>>>>>> interface
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> PCIe anyway?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the =
>>>>>>>> horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming
>>> down
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for
>>> my
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
>>>> of
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> on EBay).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>>>> <HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>>>> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>>>> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>>>> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>>>> <STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>>>> </HEAD>
>>>>>>>> <BODY>
>>>>>>>> <DIV>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be
> in
>>>> a
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> few months.=20
>>>>>>>> I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go
>>>>>>>> there,=20
>>>>>>>> soooo......</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking at:</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X
>>>> =
>>>>>>>> ATX Intel=20
>>>>>>>> Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><A=20
>>>>>>>> href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 105
>>>>>>>> 9"=
>>>>>>>>> <FONT=20
>>>>>>>> face=3DArial=20
>>>>>>>> size=3D2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 10
>>>>>>>> 59=
>>>>>>>> </FONT></A></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield
>>>> =
>>>>>>>> 2.66GHz 2 x=20
>>>>>>>> 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
>>>>>>>> GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>> href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 150
>>>>>>>> 11=
>>>>>>>> "> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A>
>>>>>>>> </=
>>>>>>>> FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2
>
>>>>>>>> SDRAM
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> DDR2 800=20
>>>>>>>> (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>> href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 465
>>>>>>>> 99=
>>>>>>>> "> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A>
>>>>>>>> </=
>>>>>>>> FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB
> =
>>>>>>>> 128-bit GDDR3 PCI=20
>>>>>>>> Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>> href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 501
>>>>>>>> 85=
>>>>>>>> "> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A>
>>>>>>>> </=
>>>>>>>> FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power
>>>>>>>> Supply
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> 115/230 V=20
>>>>>>>> UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>> href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 590
>>>>>>>> 40=
>>>>>>>> "> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A>
>>>>>>>> </=
>>>>>>>> FONT></P><FONT=20
>>>>>>>> face=3DArial size=3D2>
>>>>>>>> <P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
>>>>>>>> System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>> href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edd
>>>>>>>> ed=
>>>>>>>> Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http:/
>>>>>>>> /w=
>>>>>>>> ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_
>>>>>>>> Sl=
>>>>>>>> ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have
> a
>>> =
>>>>>>>> workable 10+ GHZ=20
>>>>>>>> system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry
>>> =
>>>>>>>> about ASIO=20
>>>>>>>> direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>>> inserts/sends
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> and=20
>>>>>>>> still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
>>>> =
>>>>>>>> hardware=20
>>>>>>>> without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI
>>>> =
>>>>>>>> stuff and I=20
>>>>>>>> would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista
>>>> =
>>>>>>>> and run 8G=20
>>>>>>>> of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP
>>>>>>>> configuration
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> I've got now=20
>>>>>>>> with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the
> =
>>>>>>>> ADI8-DS units=20
>>>>>>>> and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe
>>> =
>>>>>>>> hardware if=20
>>>>>>>> I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi
> SBS
>>>> =
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the
>>>>>>>> PCi>PCIe=20
>>>>>>>> conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo,
> but
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> the new=20
>>>>>>>> mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number of
>>> =
>>>>>>>> cards I want=20
>>>>>>>> to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need
>>>> to
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> be 64=20
>>>>>>>> bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it.
> So
>>>> =
>>>>>>>> why=20
>>>>>>>> upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
>>>>>>>> hold all my=20
>>>>>>>> PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the
> move
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> now (besides=20
>>>>>>>> wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's =
>>>>>>>> will be=20
>>>>>>>> coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able
>>>> to
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> get for=20
>>>>>>>> my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are
>>>>>>>> capable
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> of=20
>>>>>>>> integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added value
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>> on=20
>>>>>>>> EBay).</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>>> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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| Re: TCB - Ubuntu/XGL [message #83564 is a reply to message #83545] |
Sun, 22 April 2007 20:01 |
TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007
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I actually dual boot my laptop, but I recommend the Innotek Virtual Box (free
as in beer, sorta free as in speech) highly. It's been great for me running
XP/Vista in Debian.
TCB
"chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>
>Dedric,
>
>Friends don't let friends dual boot :-) If you want to play, get Virtual
>PC 2007 (free download) or Virtual Box (free download) and run anything
you
>want in virtual machines. The ultimate playground. I've gone through at
>least 6 linux distros, full installs and checked em out without touching
>one byte of the physical machine :-)
>
>Chuck
>
>"Dedric Terry" <dedric@echomg.com> wrote:
>>Thad - have you used/are you using XGL/Compiz? I came across a video
>>demo of it - looks like it blows away the eye candy of Vista and OSX, at
>
>>least from what
>>I saw in the video. A bit over the top for normal audio or business app
>
>>use, but I'm impressed
>>lots of cool workflow possibilities there.
>>
>>If we were to get widespread audio app and driver support (and a few other
>
>>apps/tools I would be dead in the
>>water without), I would happily move to Ubuntu, but that's probably a long
>
>>way off, if ever.
>>
>>Is it possible to network an Ubuntu/linux system with Windows XP machines?
>
>>I might consider
>>dual booting my laptop just for the heck of it. I'm guessing it is, at
>
>>least on the linux end...
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dedric
>>
>>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:462a26ac$1@linux...
>>>
>>> OK, I'll try to be nice here. I'm hungover after a long night out with,
>
>>> well,
>>> a friend. OS X _might_ be the easy way to run _Unix_, but it has
>>> absolutely
>>> nothing to do with _linux_. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. Not at the technical
>>> level, not at the licensing level, not at the moral level, not at the
>
>>> community
>>> level, not at the pricing level.
>>>
>>> I realize you probably don't make those distinctions, but I actually
take
>>> offense at OS X being equated with linux. And I respond to DC regularly
>so
>>> I don't take offense at the drop of a hat.
>>>
>>> If you would like to take a look at actual linux, Ubuntu 7 just released,
>>> Feisty Fawn. The install CD is actually a live CD, so you can boot off
>the
>>> CD and poke around a bit if you like. Beryl is installed but not enabled
>>> by default, and if you turn it on you'll have all the eye candy you could
>>> possible want, and not be stuck with a proprietary OS.
>>>
>>> TCB
>>>
>>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I wouldn't think it's like you to buy a Mac... I mean, for starters
>>>>they're
>>>>reliable...
>>>>
>>>>...and secondly, there's a point of view from which you could say that
>a
>>>>Mac is "the easy way" to run Linux. ;o) And since when did you start
doing
>>>>things the easy way? ;o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>Not now silly.........later when I know how evil it really is so I can
>>>
>>>>>appreciate, take full responsibility for and properly savor the grief
>
>>>>>that
>>>>
>>>>>it will cause in my life when I intentionally, and with aforethought,
>
>>>>>make
>>>>
>>>>>the transition.................however, from what I'm hearing, there
>may
>>>>be
>>>>>some *real* advantages to Vista as far as performance of multicore CPU's.
>>>>
>>>>>Win XP multicore support is more of a kludge, or so I'm hearing (though
>>>>
>>>>>Vista itself may be a kludge too). The ability to run lots of RAM is
>
>>>>>always
>>>>
>>>>>a good thing and if Vista is better at supporting multicore CPU's perhaps
>>>>it
>>>>>would be preferable to XP-64.
>>>>>
>>>>>God forbid I should buy a Mac.
>>>>>
>>>>>;oD
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4629399a@linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeh I'm not sure why you'd want to go Vista Deej.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is why I posted the Linux on a laptop question the other day.
>If
>>>>at
>>>>>> all possible my Windows career is going to stop on XP. I'll still
need
>>>>at
>>>>>> least one XP or 98 install for Paris, but I can run everything else
>on
>>>>
>>>>>> Linux...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...audio software may be another thing, though I'm confident 2 years
>>> from
>>>>>> now we'll see movement towards Linux from mainstream audio apps also.
>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile,
>>>>>> I imagine they will continue to support XP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> XP support will be around a long while, as 98 was. Remember the bad
>
>>>>>> press
>>>>>> Windows ME got? And 98 ended up outlasting ME because of this. Now
>look
>>>>
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> much MORE bad press Vista has had.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows days are over dude... IMHO... don't go Vista...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No Vista! Bad Deej! No biscuit! You spend night in kennel!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>TCB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be in a few months. I can see the
>=
>>>>>>>>writing on the wall and I want to be able to go there, soooo......
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Here's what I'm looking at:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherbo-$249.99
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield 2.66GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA
>>> 775
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>Processor (yeah...that's 10.64 GHz )-$970.00
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual
>=
>>>>>>>>Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
>
>>>>>>>>Video
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>Card-$119.99
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL, CSA, -59.99
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion System-$2050.00
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb eddedSystems/=
>>>>>>>>Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>rough total: $3599.96
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>At this point I think I would have a workable 10+ GHZ system that
>=
>>>>>>>>*might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry about ASIO
>=
>>>>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>>>inserts/sends
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>and still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with
>>> PCIe
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>hardware without having to replace it with a mishmash combination
>of
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>PCIe/PCI stuff and I would be 64 bit capable when the time comes
and
>>>>I
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>want to go to Vista and run 8G of RAM on the DAW.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I really like the RME HDSP configuration I've got now with the
>>>>>>>>Multiface
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the ADI8-DS units and
I
>
>>>>>>>>don't
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe hardware
if
>>> I
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi SBS
>>> =
>>>>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the PCi>PCIe
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo,
>but
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>the new mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the
>
>>>>>>>>number
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>of cards I want to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>this will need to be 64 bit eventually so there's a $2k expense,
no
>>> =
>>>>>>>>matter how you cut it. So why upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can
get
>>>>a
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>PCIe chassis that will hold all my PCI cards and allow them to
>>>>>>>>interface
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>PCIe anyway?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The reason I'm tempted to make the move now (besides wanting the
=
>>>>>>>>horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's will be coming
>>> down
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able to get for
>>> my
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are capable
>>>>of
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added
value
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>on EBay).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>>>><HTML><HEAD>
>>>>>>>><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>>>>>>>>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
>>>>>>>><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16414" name=3DGENERATOR>
>>>>>>>><STYLE></STYLE>
>>>>>>>></HEAD>
>>>>>>>><BODY>
>>>>>>>><DIV>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cubase ain't 64bit yet, but will be
>in
>>>>a
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>few months.=20
>>>>>>>>I can see the writing on the wall and I want to be able to go
>>>>>>>>there,=20
>>>>>>>>soooo......</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's what I'm looking at:</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel
975X
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>ATX Intel=20
>>>>>>>>Motherbo-$249.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><A=20
>>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059"=
>>>>>>>>><FONT=20
>>>>>>>>face=3DArial=20
>>>>>>>>size=3D2> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=3DN82E1681312 1059=
>>>>>>>></FONT></A></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 Kentsfield
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>2.66GHz 2 x=20
>>>>>>>>4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor (yeah...that's 10.64=20
>>>>>>>>GHz )-$970.00</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011=
>>>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168191 15011</A></=
>>>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2
>
>>>>>>>>SDRAM
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>DDR2 800=20
>>>>>>>>(PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - $149.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599=
>>>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168201 46599</A></=
>>>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>XFX PVT73GUGF3 GeForce 7600GT 256MB
>=
>>>>>>>>128-bit GDDR3 PCI=20
>>>>>>>>Express x16 Video Card-$119.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185=
>>>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168141 50185</A></=
>>>>>>>>FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>COOLMAX CP-500T EPS12V 500W Power
>>>>>>>>Supply
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>115/230 V=20
>>>>>>>>UL, CSA, -59.99</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040=
>>>>>>>>"> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E168171 59040</A></=
>>>>>>>>FONT></P><FONT=20
>>>>>>>>face=3DArial size=3D2>
>>>>>>>><P class=3DheaderGold>Seven Slot PCI Express to PCI-X Expansion=20
>>>>>>>>System-$2050.00</P></FONT>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
>>>>>>>>href=3D" http://www.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmb edded=
>>>>>>>> Systems/Seven_Slot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/1765 9/1 ">http://w=
>>>>>>>> ww.globalspec.com/FeaturedProducts/Detail/GEFanucEmbeddedSys tems/Seven_Sl=
>>>>>>>>ot_PCI_Express_to_PCIX_Expansion_System/17659/1</A> </FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>rough total: $3599.96</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>At this point I think I would have
>a
>>> =
>>>>>>>>workable 10+ GHZ=20
>>>>>>>>system that *might* be able to run at 1.5ms without having to worry
>>> =
>>>>>>>>about ASIO=20
>>>>>>>>direct monitoring while tracking projects that have FX on
>>>>>>>>inserts/sends
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>and=20
>>>>>>>>still be able to utilize my existing PCI audio interfacing with PCIe
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>hardware=20
>>>>>>>>without having to replace it with a mishmash combination of PCIe/PCI
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>stuff and I=20
>>>>>>>>would be 64 bit capable when the time comes and I want to go to Vista
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>and run 8G=20
>>>>>>>>of RAM on the DAW.</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I really like the RME HDSP
>>>>>>>>configuration
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>I've got now=20
>>>>>>>>with the Multiface and the 2 x HDSP 9652's with 16 AD/DA's on the
>=
>>>>>>>>ADI8-DS units=20
>>>>>>>>and I don't really want to spend the extra $$ on RME and UAD-1 PCIe
>>> =
>>>>>>>>hardware if=20
>>>>>>>>I can just integrate my existing PCI hardware with the PCIe > PCi
>SBS
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>chassis. There might be a small hit to performance with the
>>>>>>>>PCi>PCIe=20
>>>>>>>>conversion as compared to interfacing PCIe directly with the mobo,
>but
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>the new=20
>>>>>>>>mobos don't have enough PCIe slots to allow me to use the number
of
>>> =
>>>>>>>>cards I want=20
>>>>>>>>to use without a PCIe expansion chassis anyway....and this will need
>>>>to
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>be 64=20
>>>>>>>>bit eventually so there's a $2k expense, no matter how you cut it.
>So
>>>>=
>>>>>>>>why=20
>>>>>>>>upgrade PCI cards to PCIe if I can get a PCIe chassis that will =
>>>>>>>>hold all my=20
>>>>>>>>PCI cards and allow them to interface PCIe anyway?</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The reason I'm tempted to make the
>move
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>now (besides=20
>>>>>>>>wanting the horsepower) is that although the prices of the CPU's
=
>>>>>>>>will be=20
>>>>>>>>coming down over the next few months, so will the price I'll be able
>>>>to
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>get for=20
>>>>>>>>my Magma's since they are 32 bit units (although 2 x of them are
>>>>>>>>capable
>>>>>>>=
>>>>>>>>of=20
>>>>>>>>integrating the PCIe host card so this gives them a little added
value
>>>>>> =
>>>>>>>>on=20
>>>>>>>>EBay).</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P>
>>>>>>>><P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: TCB - Ubuntu/XGL [message #83565 is a reply to message #83564] |
Sun, 22 April 2007 20:44 |
Dedric Terry
Messages: 788
Registered: June 2007
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Senior Member |
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Any performance issues using a virtual system? I know (or so I deduced from
the VB user manual) Ram has to be allocated from the host, so that would be
one. Is there any noticeable lag in response as the guest OS passes
commands back to VB?
My laptop might need more Ram before going this route - 512M is low enough
for XP as it is - I'm guessing running VB and linux on top would be pushing
it.
What advantages/reasons do you have for running linux, and which flavor do
you recommend most (I know that's a loaded question, and one you both have
probably answered in the past, but I'm curious - I assume development is the
main reason).
Thanks for the recommendations and info guys!
Regards,
Dedric
On 4/22/07 9:01 PM, in article 462c2199$1@linux, "TCB" <nobody@ishere.com>
wrote:
>
> I actually dual boot my laptop, but I recommend the Innotek Virtual Box (free
> as in beer, sorta free as in speech) highly. It's been great for me running
> XP/Vista in Debian.
>
> TCB
>
> "chuck duffy" <c@c.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dedric,
>>
>> Friends don't let friends dual boot :-) If you want to play, get Virtual
>> PC 2007 (free download) or Virtual Box (free download) and run anything
> you
>> want in virtual machines. The ultimate playground. I've gone through at
>> least 6 linux distros, full installs and checked em out without touching
>> one byte of the physical machine :-)
>>
>> Chuck
>>
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