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Tried the Dimitrios La2a settings [message #62553] Thu, 05 January 2006 23:27 Go to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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It wasn't as soft sounding as the UAD La2a.
I think increasing the ratio a little bit helped. Not a bad
starting point though. Give it a try if you haven't.

Thanks Dimitrios.
T.
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Re: Tried the Dimitrios La2a settings [message #62623 is a reply to message #62553] Sat, 07 January 2006 08:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RK is currently offline  RK   UNITED STATES
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How high did you take the ratio? Did you adjust the lookahead as well?

Have you tried Bill L's UAD 1176LN gentle crush comp? If so, what did =
you think of that?

Kent
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It wasn't as soft sounding as the UAD La2a.
I think increasing the ratio a little bit helped. Not a bad
starting point though. Give it a try if you haven't.

Thanks Dimitrios.
T.
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Re: Tried the Dimitrios La2a settings [message #62684 is a reply to message #62553] Sun, 08 January 2006 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What are the settings? I couldn't view the pic in the previous post...

Gantt

Tom Bruhl wrote:

> It wasn't as soft sounding as the UAD La2a.I think increasing the
> ratio a little bit helped. Not a badstarting point though. Give it a
> try if you haven't. Thanks Dimitrios.T.

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What are the settings?&nbsp; I couldn't view the pic in the previous post...
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Re: Tried the Dimitrios La2a settings [message #62694 is a reply to message #62684] Sun, 08 January 2006 17:07 Go to previous message
John [1] is currently offline  John [1]   UNITED STATES
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The Dimitrios LA2A is:



Threshold -75.1 db
Ratio 1.10:1

Attack 0.00126 sec
Release 0.052 sec

lookahead 0.000
output 6.3 db


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Bill's UAD 1176LN is:


UAD1 1176LN "Gentle Vocal Comp" preset

Check out Bill L's compresor to match the UAD 1176LN. He starts with the
gentle crush and then:

-67.4db 1.25:1

0.0030 0.0076

0.007 8.7

Sounds good, too. Up to 14 dB of reduction. The important settings to
change for your vocal application would be the threshold and the output.
I set the threshold so I was gettin g up to around 14 dB of reduction.

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Another one of Bill's



Subject:
Here Is a Good Vocal Setting for Paris Compressor

I started out doing some tests of Chuck's NoLIMIT, which devolved into a
compressor plugin shoot-out. I didn't go totally crazy - really I was just
trying to see if I could get the regular Paris compressor to sound like the
UAD1 1176LN "Gentle Vocal Comp" preset. While I was at it, I threw in Waves
Ren Comp on a vocal setting. I then tweaked the Paris and the Waves to sound
as close to the 1176 as I could get them. I then tested them on male and
female vocal. The listeners were myself and my wife, who is an excellent
singer and a pianist, and actually has great ears (and she digs doing these
tests).

The winner by a very, very small margin was the UAD1. After that came the
Paris comp, and last was the Waves. My wife said the Waves sounded slightly
"metallic", which I interpreted to mean it had artifacts and was a little
flangey sounding. I agree, but it didn't sound bad, just not as good. The
UAD1 just sounded the most pleasing. The Paris compressor was really close
though - totally usable IMHO - and I thought it might be useful for some
folks if I shared the settings I arrived at, especially as the Paris comp is
by far the hardest compressor plug I have ever knobulated.

I started with the "gentle crush" setting (I mention this because there has
been a theory that there is a different algorithm used in the "Opto"
setting. I have no idea whether this is true, nor do I know which algo is in
the gentle crush.)

-67.4db 1.25:1
0.0030 0.0076
0.007 8.7

The important settings to change for your vocal application would be the
threshold and the output. I set the threshold so I was getting up to around
14 dB of reduction. Hope this may be useful to those who don't have a UAD1.

As to the NoLimit plug, I found it not so useful on vocals. Maybe I didn't
set it right - not sure. I wish it has a meter (Chuck, was that why you were
asking about good examples of plug in meters?) I will be testing it for
mastering program tomorrow. I will let y'all know what I think.

Bill



Gantt Kushner wrote:
> What are the settings? I couldn't view the pic in the previous post...
>
> Gantt
>
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
>
>> It wasn't as soft sounding as the UAD La2a.I think increasing the
>> ratio a little bit helped. Not a badstarting point though. Give it a
>> try if you haven't. Thanks Dimitrios.T.
>
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