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| Re: Can't Stream Data fast enough [message #101092 is a reply to message #101091] |
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John [1]
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http://www.kfocus.com/paris/ Bugs and Troubleshooting
Seeing "using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system" is your problem I believe
and is a driver problem apparently. I don't remember the cure but the internet
says
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130179
and
"goto start run and type REGEDIT do a search for NOIDE where ever you find
this instance delete it from the registry."
From Edmund in the past.......
Data cannot be streamed fast enough.Change PB settings or use a faster drive
------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------
they are in the project window under settings. as to what will work for
you depends on your computer ie ram, disk performance, vcache
in your sys edit and the settings on your dma. for me i use 96,48,8192,
but they have changed from one paris version to another.
if you have a prg that measures you disk input and output rates you can
use those numbers to set paris up for optimal use. go to
purgatorycreek.com where there is a program (free) to analyze your
drives.
rick
ab van goor wrote in message :
Too often the errormessage "Data cannot be streamed fast enough.Change
PB settings or use a faster drive" is comming up the my screen.Can
someone tell me what these playback settings are (apart from the scrub
settings)and where you can find them? In case the configuration settings
are meant why don't we call them so?
thanks for your help
> No luck. I have a pc 233, 9.1 scsi, and 8.1 ide, with 64 megs rm. Paris
configuration is, 64 disk i/o - 32 cache.
Let me understand: if you are using 64K I/O you really don't need more
than 10-16 MB of cache. More cache MAY be causing you problem in that it
may force the PC to use too much VM.
Do this:
- Change the disk cache to 12 MB,
- Make sure that there is a line in your system configuration to limit the
dynamic Windows cache (or you will get playback for 10-60 seconds, then
"disk too slow."
This should easily get you full 16 tracks of playback.
"Bob Hohenberger" <highmtn@efn.org> wrote:
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>Hello. I lost my audio drive on a PARIS system that I have been using without
>trouble for the past five years. Since I have replaced the audio drive,
I'm
>unable to playback audio files.
>
>I get the "Can't Stream Data fast enough" error message that says to get
>a faster drive.
>
>I'm on an AMD 2 gigahertz processor with 512 MB of RAM, running on Windows
>ME. This is a 4-EDS card system. I have an 80 gig WD drive for the system
>and a 320 gig drive for audio. This system has played back 64 tracks without
>a hiccup in the past. This system is very similar to one DJ was using a
few
>years back.
>
>The new drive is a WD 7200 RPM Caviar Blue, 320 GB.
>
>I've tried all possible variations in the PARIS configuration menu, and
tweeked
>the vcache in Windows' configuration to vcache min and max of 8192. I've
>gone through the 16 page collection of configuration tips from Steve Dellamagioria's
>PARIS TIPS. Still getting the message. I get a few seconds of playback,
>then it stutters and stalls. I can tell it's going to stall because the
meters
>on the mixer display look jerky just before it stalls with the error message.
>
>When I look in ME's device manager, under Performance, File System, there
>is a message about "Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system performance."
>and "Drive C: using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system" as well as "Drive
>D: using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system".
>
>I don't know if those messages are normal or the cause of my system becoming
>unusable.
>
>I'm not a guru when it comes to computers. I'm pretty adept at using PARIS
>when the system is working properly. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Bob H.
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| Re: Can't Stream Data fast enough [message #101098 is a reply to message #101091] |
Sun, 16 November 2008 10:29 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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If I recall correctly there is a bus mastering or Mode check box that
WinME/98 has a nasty habit of unchecking that hoses the works like this. I
haven't run 98/me in years, but I bet you can find it in the properties
tab.... thinking either under the IDE controller or directly on the HD
properties in the Hardware Manager.
AA
Nice to see you here Bob, it's been quite a while. Are you on the official
Paris List that Kerry G has going?
"Bob Hohenberger" <highmtn@efn.org> wrote in message
news:491fef3b$1@linux...
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> Hello. I lost my audio drive on a PARIS system that I have been using
> without
> trouble for the past five years. Since I have replaced the audio drive,
> I'm
> unable to playback audio files.
>
> I get the "Can't Stream Data fast enough" error message that says to get
> a faster drive.
>
> I'm on an AMD 2 gigahertz processor with 512 MB of RAM, running on Windows
> ME. This is a 4-EDS card system. I have an 80 gig WD drive for the system
> and a 320 gig drive for audio. This system has played back 64 tracks
> without
> a hiccup in the past. This system is very similar to one DJ was using a
> few
> years back.
>
> The new drive is a WD 7200 RPM Caviar Blue, 320 GB.
>
> I've tried all possible variations in the PARIS configuration menu, and
> tweeked
> the vcache in Windows' configuration to vcache min and max of 8192. I've
> gone through the 16 page collection of configuration tips from Steve
> Dellamagioria's
> PARIS TIPS. Still getting the message. I get a few seconds of playback,
> then it stutters and stalls. I can tell it's going to stall because the
> meters
> on the mixer display look jerky just before it stalls with the error
> message.
>
> When I look in ME's device manager, under Performance, File System, there
> is a message about "Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system
> performance."
> and "Drive C: using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system" as well as
> "Drive
> D: using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system".
>
> I don't know if those messages are normal or the cause of my system
> becoming
> unusable.
>
> I'm not a guru when it comes to computers. I'm pretty adept at using PARIS
> when the system is working properly. Can anyone point me in the right
> direction?
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob H.
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| Re: Can't Stream Data fast enough [message #101191 is a reply to message #101098] |
Wed, 19 November 2008 21:27 |
highmtn
Messages: 13
Registered: November 2006
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Junior Member |
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Hi, Aaron. Thanks for the tips on bus mastering mode. Unfortunately, my PARIS
rig is still dead in the water.
I haven't heard of the Official Paris list you speak of. Tell me more...
"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>If I recall correctly there is a bus mastering or Mode check box that
>WinME/98 has a nasty habit of unchecking that hoses the works like this.
I
>haven't run 98/me in years, but I bet you can find it in the properties
>tab.... thinking either under the IDE controller or directly on the HD
>properties in the Hardware Manager.
>
>
>AA
>
>Nice to see you here Bob, it's been quite a while. Are you on the official
>Paris List that Kerry G has going?
>
>
>
>
>
>"Bob Hohenberger" <highmtn@efn.org> wrote in message
>news:491fef3b$1@linux...
>>
>> Hello. I lost my audio drive on a PARIS system that I have been using
>> without
>> trouble for the past five years. Since I have replaced the audio drive,
>> I'm
>> unable to playback audio files.
>>
>> I get the "Can't Stream Data fast enough" error message that says to get
>> a faster drive.
>>
>> I'm on an AMD 2 gigahertz processor with 512 MB of RAM, running on Windows
>> ME. This is a 4-EDS card system. I have an 80 gig WD drive for the system
>> and a 320 gig drive for audio. This system has played back 64 tracks
>> without
>> a hiccup in the past. This system is very similar to one DJ was using
a
>> few
>> years back.
>>
>> The new drive is a WD 7200 RPM Caviar Blue, 320 GB.
>>
>> I've tried all possible variations in the PARIS configuration menu, and
>> tweeked
>> the vcache in Windows' configuration to vcache min and max of 8192. I've
>> gone through the 16 page collection of configuration tips from Steve
>> Dellamagioria's
>> PARIS TIPS. Still getting the message. I get a few seconds of playback,
>> then it stutters and stalls. I can tell it's going to stall because the
>> meters
>> on the mixer display look jerky just before it stalls with the error
>> message.
>>
>> When I look in ME's device manager, under Performance, File System, there
>> is a message about "Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system
>> performance."
>> and "Drive C: using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system" as well as
>> "Drive
>> D: using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system".
>>
>> I don't know if those messages are normal or the cause of my system
>> becoming
>> unusable.
>>
>> I'm not a guru when it comes to computers. I'm pretty adept at using PARIS
>> when the system is working properly. Can anyone point me in the right
>> direction?
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Bob H.
>
>
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| Re: Can't Stream Data fast enough [message #101192 is a reply to message #101092] |
Wed, 19 November 2008 21:33 |
highmtn
Messages: 13
Registered: November 2006
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Junior Member |
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John,
I appreciate your response. I was unable to find any references to NOIDE
in the registry.
If all else fails, I may try a total reload of the operating system and PARIS
3.0.
Does ID still issue codes to unlock 3.0 when you install a new system?
Thanks.
Bob H.
"John" <no@no.com> wrote:
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>http://www.kfocus.com/paris/ Bugs and Troubleshooting
>
>Seeing "using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system" is your problem I believe
>and is a driver problem apparently. I don't remember the cure but the internet
>says
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/130179
>and
>"goto start run and type REGEDIT do a search for NOIDE where ever you find
>this instance delete it from the registry."
>
>
>From Edmund in the past.......
>
>Data cannot be streamed fast enough.Change PB settings or use a faster drive
> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------
>they are in the project window under settings. as to what will work for
>you depends on your computer ie ram, disk performance, vcache
>in your sys edit and the settings on your dma. for me i use 96,48,8192,
>but they have changed from one paris version to another.
>if you have a prg that measures you disk input and output rates you can
>use those numbers to set paris up for optimal use. go to
>purgatorycreek.com where there is a program (free) to analyze your
>drives.
>rick
>ab van goor wrote in message :
>
>Too often the errormessage "Data cannot be streamed fast enough.Change
>PB settings or use a faster drive" is comming up the my screen.Can
>someone tell me what these playback settings are (apart from the scrub
>settings)and where you can find them? In case the configuration settings
>are meant why don't we call them so?
>thanks for your help
>
>
>
>> No luck. I have a pc 233, 9.1 scsi, and 8.1 ide, with 64 megs rm. Paris
>configuration is, 64 disk i/o - 32 cache.
>
>Let me understand: if you are using 64K I/O you really don't need more
>than 10-16 MB of cache. More cache MAY be causing you problem in that it
>may force the PC to use too much VM.
>
>Do this:
>
>- Change the disk cache to 12 MB,
>- Make sure that there is a line in your system configuration to limit the
>dynamic Windows cache (or you will get playback for 10-60 seconds, then
>"disk too slow."
>
>This should easily get you full 16 tracks of playback.
>
>"Bob Hohenberger" <highmtn@efn.org> wrote:
>>
>>Hello. I lost my audio drive on a PARIS system that I have been using without
>>trouble for the past five years. Since I have replaced the audio drive,
>I'm
>>unable to playback audio files.
>>
>>I get the "Can't Stream Data fast enough" error message that says to get
>>a faster drive.
>>
>>I'm on an AMD 2 gigahertz processor with 512 MB of RAM, running on Windows
>>ME. This is a 4-EDS card system. I have an 80 gig WD drive for the system
>>and a 320 gig drive for audio. This system has played back 64 tracks without
>>a hiccup in the past. This system is very similar to one DJ was using a
>few
>>years back.
>>
>>The new drive is a WD 7200 RPM Caviar Blue, 320 GB.
>>
>>I've tried all possible variations in the PARIS configuration menu, and
>tweeked
>>the vcache in Windows' configuration to vcache min and max of 8192. I've
>>gone through the 16 page collection of configuration tips from Steve Dellamagioria's
>>PARIS TIPS. Still getting the message. I get a few seconds of playback,
>>then it stutters and stalls. I can tell it's going to stall because the
>meters
>>on the mixer display look jerky just before it stalls with the error message.
>>
>>When I look in ME's device manager, under Performance, File System, there
>>is a message about "Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system performance."
>>and "Drive C: using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system" as well as "Drive
>>D: using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system".
>>
>>I don't know if those messages are normal or the cause of my system becoming
>>unusable.
>>
>>I'm not a guru when it comes to computers. I'm pretty adept at using PARIS
>>when the system is working properly. Can anyone point me in the right
direction?
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Bob H.
>
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| ATTN: Kerry G__Re: Can't Stream Data fast enough [message #101194 is a reply to message #101191] |
Wed, 19 November 2008 20:19 |
Aaron Allen
Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008
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Senior Member |
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Kerry Galloway has been doing a fine job collecting as much data on
users/systems/debugging and such as is available and keeping up the new
Paris WIKI site. I'll step to the side and let him take over on the
specifics on this and where to find the info/how to get on the list.
AA
"Bob Hohenberger" <highmtn@efn.org> wrote in message
news:4924e72e$1@linux...
>
> Hi, Aaron. Thanks for the tips on bus mastering mode. Unfortunately, my
> PARIS
> rig is still dead in the water.
>
> I haven't heard of the Official Paris list you speak of. Tell me more...
>
> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>If I recall correctly there is a bus mastering or Mode check box that
>>WinME/98 has a nasty habit of unchecking that hoses the works like this.
> I
>>haven't run 98/me in years, but I bet you can find it in the properties
>
>>tab.... thinking either under the IDE controller or directly on the HD
>>properties in the Hardware Manager.
>>
>>
>>AA
>>
>>Nice to see you here Bob, it's been quite a while. Are you on the official
>
>>Paris List that Kerry G has going?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Bob Hohenberger" <highmtn@efn.org> wrote in message
>>news:491fef3b$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hello. I lost my audio drive on a PARIS system that I have been using
>
>>> without
>>> trouble for the past five years. Since I have replaced the audio drive,
>
>>> I'm
>>> unable to playback audio files.
>>>
>>> I get the "Can't Stream Data fast enough" error message that says to get
>>> a faster drive.
>>>
>>> I'm on an AMD 2 gigahertz processor with 512 MB of RAM, running on
>>> Windows
>>> ME. This is a 4-EDS card system. I have an 80 gig WD drive for the
>>> system
>>> and a 320 gig drive for audio. This system has played back 64 tracks
>
>>> without
>>> a hiccup in the past. This system is very similar to one DJ was using
> a
>>> few
>>> years back.
>>>
>>> The new drive is a WD 7200 RPM Caviar Blue, 320 GB.
>>>
>>> I've tried all possible variations in the PARIS configuration menu, and
>
>>> tweeked
>>> the vcache in Windows' configuration to vcache min and max of 8192.
>>> I've
>>> gone through the 16 page collection of configuration tips from Steve
>>> Dellamagioria's
>>> PARIS TIPS. Still getting the message. I get a few seconds of playback,
>>> then it stutters and stalls. I can tell it's going to stall because the
>
>>> meters
>>> on the mixer display look jerky just before it stalls with the error
>>> message.
>>>
>>> When I look in ME's device manager, under Performance, File System,
>>> there
>>> is a message about "Compatibility-mode paging reduces overall system
>>> performance."
>>> and "Drive C: using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system" as well as
>
>>> "Drive
>>> D: using MS-DOS compatibility mode file system".
>>>
>>> I don't know if those messages are normal or the cause of my system
>>> becoming
>>> unusable.
>>>
>>> I'm not a guru when it comes to computers. I'm pretty adept at using
>>> PARIS
>>> when the system is working properly. Can anyone point me in the right
>
>>> direction?
>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Bob H.
>>
>>
>
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