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Totally OT: DVD R's what's the difference [message #61954] Wed, 28 December 2005 12:21 Go to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
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Re: Totally OT: DVD R's what's the difference [message #61970 is a reply to message #61954] Wed, 28 December 2005 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Edna Sloan is currently offline  Edna Sloan   UNITED STATES
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"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:43b3224c$1@linux...
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> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>TCB wrote...
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>> "and are known as "best of breed" by the purchasing public."
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>>I don't think that's quite accurate any more...Apple are under
>>investigation
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>>here, (Oz), for faulty ipods, Broken screens, DOA etc, and not honouring
> the
>>warranties.
>>I'm sure they have the same problem in the US.
>>Also the sound quality is inferior to many of it's competitors, (cheaper
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>>ones at that.)
>>They just happen to have major mark
Re: Totally OT: DVD R's what's the difference [message #61972 is a reply to message #61970] Wed, 28 December 2005 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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>> a lot of us) that they're an iPod company dressed up as a desktop
>>> computer
>>> manufacturer. Their consumer electronics are high margin, have an
>>> enviable
>>> market share, and are known as "best of breed" by the purchasing public.
>>> The computers they make are the precise opposite. If they get their
>>> hardware
>>> costs in line I'm all for it--I'd be just as happy to wipe OS X off of
> a
>>> laptop to put Debian on it as I am happy to wipe XP Home of my (soon to
> be
>>> delivered) HP laptop to put Debian on it. One thing I do find highly
>>> dubious
>>> is
>>>
>>> ######################################
>>> The analyst also fueled rumors of an even closer relationship forming
>
>>> between
>>> Apple and Intel, saying there are indications that the two companies may
>>> be working together on a custom microprocessor chip-set that would
>>> appear
>>> only in Apple systems.
>>> #####################################
>>>
>>> It wouldn't surprise me if Apple has a "chipset" that is unique in that
> it
>>> uses a bunch of commodity parts put together in a way that nothing else
>
>>> does,
>>> or it might have some embedded graphics or whatnot. But the whole point
> of
>>> Intel Mac is getting margins back up by reducing costs on the hardware
>
>>> end,
>>> and a truly proprietary chipset will cost an enormous amount of money
> for
>>> a company with such a small market share. That doesn't seem to make
>>> sense
>>> unless they word "chipset" is being used in a different way than we
>>> geeks
>>> use it.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know about the development issues? How easy/tough will it
> be
>>> to port apps over to the Intel Macs? From real sources, not marketing
>
>>> people?
>
Re: Totally OT: DVD R's what's the difference [message #61984 is a reply to message #61972] Thu, 29 December 2005 00:26 Go to previous message
erlilo is currently offline  erlilo   NORWAY
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gt;
>That's right, your a Windoz user, so please don't act like your not. I'll
>bet your even Microsoft certified!!! Aren't you? Or should I say brain
>washed! You may network Macs, but that doesn't mean you use them or really
>know shit about them. You make your statements based on what you read,
try
>using a Mac with OSX, and only OSX for a year then get back to all the Mac
>guys here. Then you can tell us how shitty Apple is as a company, and how
>inefficient and unusable Mac OSX is. As others have said, it's Mac bashing
>and it's getting old. I post some thing about what is going on,FYI for
the
>Mac guys, and you go on the attack. It is obvious you hate Apple Computer,
>so don't try to come off as an equal opportunity hater, it's insulting our
>intellect.

As far as my qualifications, I'm not an MSCE and in fact I have no formal
computer training at all. I have a dusty old humanities B.A. around here
somewhere. As far as my knowledge of Macs, you might want to google my name
along with words like "audio" "Apple" and "computers" to see what shows up.
I probably had 30 articles published about Macs and audio before 90% of the
people currently using computers for music had heard of one. I've been at
this long enough that I remember booting into Open Firmware and having to
learn a little bit about Forth scripting in order to boot [pirated] beta
versions of BeOS and some Linux distro on a 603e based Mac. Am I a "Winoz"
user? Yes and no. At my job I take care of about 30 servers (if you count
virtual machines, which I do) that are probably 70/30 XP/linux. The office
where I work is married to Exchange so that forces me into a certain set
of choices (as an aside, more than Windows or Office it's Exchange/Outlook
that keeps M$oft's strangle hold on business computing). The linux boxes
are mostly email related machines (spam filters, virus checkers) or file/web
servers. I also take care of four Solaris 8 boxes and two PIX firewalls.
The clients are XP with a smattering of Macs.

In my house I have three Debian machines and one XP box as my audio computer
because SX and Live are the backbone of my music making. The difference between
the M$oft machines at work and my home Debian boxes is like the difference
between going to work and going on vacation. With Debian, computers are FUN
again, I get to mess with the innards of the OS, break things horribly, learn
about how to fix them, download new programming languages and web servers
whenever I want. I actually have a shell script that uses about eight apps
to take the live input from a sound card or capture the main sound output
of the OS into a perfectly compressed audio file automatically. Something
I still haven't been able to do on a M$oft box.

So, I'm
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