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---=_linux436b37f1--Congratulations!
I can see that bay window featuring in to your control room somehow.



"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever. :o)
>It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.
>
>The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move... one
>keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall
>things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set
up
>yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
>the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use, not
>built to move, or get in and out. ;o)
>
>But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom works...
> the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't
>work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system my
>work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected next
>week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving with
>me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence in
>an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o)
>
>The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great
>funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here compared
>to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than I've
>ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well
through
>my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS
for
>once, the "government" and "world" TV stations.
>
>Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though
>at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know
>you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on! I
don't
>have a..." ;o)
>
>It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can watch
>what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the radio
>station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>
>Life is good. :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.Hi Kim,
Congratulations !!
It's a wonderful feeling - you are
now officially the King of your Castle !

Morgan :)



Kim wrote:
>
> Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever. :o)
> It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.
>
> The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move... one
> keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall
> things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set up
> yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
> the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use, not
> built to move, or get in and out. ;o)
>
> But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom works...
> the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't
> work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system my
> work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected next
> week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving with
> me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence in
> an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o)
>
> The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great
> funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here compared
> to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than I've
> ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well through
> my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS for
> once, the "government" and "world" TV stations.
>
> Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though
> at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know
> you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on! I don't
> have a..." ;o)
>
> It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can watch
> what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the radio
> station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>
> Life is good. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>Nice place! Congrats

Please, try not to scare the neighbors

;-)

DOn

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:436b37f1$1@linux...
>
>
> Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever. :o)
> It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.
>
> The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move... one
> keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall
> things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set up
> yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
> the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use, not
> built to move, or get in and out. ;o)
>
> But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom
> works...
> the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't
> work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system my
> work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected next
> week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving
> with
> me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence in
> an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o)
>
> The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great
> funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here
> compared
> to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than I've
> ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well
> through
> my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS
> for
> once, the "government" and "world" TV stations.
>
> Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though
> at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know
> you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on! I
> don't
> have a..." ;o)
>
> It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can
> watch
> what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the
> radio
> station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>
> Life is good. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.Is that like "Master of you Domain"? ;-)
Congratulations Kim!
Rod
Morgan <morganp@ntplx.net> wrote:
>Hi Kim,
>Congratulations !!
>It's a wonderful feeling - you are
>now officially the King of your Castle !
>
>Morgan :)
>
>
>
>Kim wrote:
>>
>> Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever.
:o)
>> It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.
>>
>> The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move...
one
>> keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall
>> things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set
up
>> yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
>> the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use,
not
>> built to move, or get in and out. ;o)
>>
>> But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom works...
>> the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't
>> work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system
my
>> work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected
next
>> week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving
with
>> me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence
in
>> an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o)
>>
>> The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great
>> funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here
compared
>> to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than
I've
>> ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well
through
>> my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS
for
Re: New House adventure. [message #59832 is a reply to message #59831] Fri, 04 November 2005 05:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cujo is currently offline  cujo
Messages: 285
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
/> >> once, the "government" and "world" TV stations.
>>
>> Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though
>> at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know
>> you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on!
I don't
>> have a..." ;o)
>>
>> It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can
watch
>> what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the
radio
>> station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>>
>> Life is good. :o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Hi All
>
>More and more I find myself mixing as opposed to tracking so I've decided
to
>buy a/an outboard compressor(s) to insert on my Main stereo output.
>
>Only requirement is that the unit be as transparent as possible as I'm not

>looking to colour my mixes.
>
>Budget is between $4-$6 K
>
>I'm aware of many manufacturers but have very limited experience with high

>end units so I'm looking for suggestions and why the suggested unit would
be
>appropriate.

Some good suggestions already (especially the SSL one, IMO),
but in that price range you can't leave out the Manley
Vari-Mu... $3,600 at Mercenary. It CAN get colored if you want
it to be, but it's pretty damn clean.

http://www.mercenary.com/manalltubvar.html

NeilCongrats!!! Post a pic of your studio once you get it setup...


"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever. :o)
>It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.
>
>The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move... one
>keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall
>things here are set
Re: New House adventure. [message #59833 is a reply to message #59831] Fri, 04 November 2005 04:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Morgan is currently offline  Morgan   UNITED STATES
Messages: 133
Registered: August 2005
Senior Member
up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set
up
>yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
>the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use, not
>built to move, or get in and out. ;o)
>
>But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom works...
> the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't
>work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system my
>work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected next
>week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving with
>me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence in
>an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o)
>
>The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great
>funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here compared
>to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than I've
>ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well
through
>my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS
for
>once, the "government" and "world" TV stations.
>
>Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though
>at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know
>you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on! I
don't
>have a..." ;o)
>
>It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can watch
>what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the radio
>station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>
>Life is good. :o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.Thanks for all the suggestions, now I can start vetting the candidates and
track down units for auditioning

Don


"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:436a03dd$1@linux...
> Hi All
>
> More and more I find myself mixing as opposed to tracking so I've decided
> to buy a/an outboard compressor(s) to insert on my Main stereo output.
>
> Only requirement is that the unit be as transparent as possible as I'm not
> looking to colour my mixes.
Re: New House adventure. [message #59834 is a reply to message #59831] Fri, 04 November 2005 04:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1206
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
/> >
> Budget is between $4-$6 K
>
> I'm aware of many manufacturers but have very limited experience with high
> end units so I'm looking for suggestions and why the suggested unit would
> be appropriate.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Don
>
>
>Looks like a great place, Kim. Enjoy!

Cheers,
-Jamie
http://www.JamieKrutz.com

> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever. :o)
>>It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.
>>
>>The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move... one
>>keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall
>>things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set
>
> up
>
>>yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
>>the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use, not
>>built to move, or get in and out. ;o)
>>
>>But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom works...
>>the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't
>>work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system my
>>work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected next
>>week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving with
>>me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence in
>>an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o)
>>
>>The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great
>>funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here compared
>>to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than I've
>>ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well
>
> through
>
>>my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS
>
> for
>
>>once, the "government" and "world" TV stations.
>>
>>Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though
>>at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know
>>you don't have until you move out of the share house and go &qu
Re: New House adventure. [message #59835 is a reply to message #59833] Fri, 04 November 2005 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Senior Member
ot;Hold on! I
>
> don't
>
>>have a..." ;o)
>>
>>It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can watch
>>what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the radio
>>station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>>
>>Life is good. :o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>
>Hi Tony,
I have some files I can send .
These are 24bit Wav files recorded by Roger Nichols.

Thanks,

Morgan :)


Tony Benson wrote:
> I remember DJ had done some mic comparisons a while back and some other
> various test recordings, etc. I'm sure others have done similar
> "experiments". If anyone has any audio files, songs, pictures, instructions,
> tips, heck anything they'd like to post on the net for easy access by
> others, I'm offering space on my web server to host the files. I've got a
> good hosting package and don't use anywhere close to my bandwidth or storage
> limits. Anyway, anyone who wants to make basically anything (music and/or
> PARIS related that is) available through the web, send me an email. If the
> files aren't too big (10 megs or smaller) you can just email them and I'll
> create a folder on my site for you and post a link back here on the group.
> If they're big files, you can send me a disc and I'll post it up.
>
> Email me at this address: tony@mercysakes.com. This address can handle
> bigger files.
>
> Tony
>
> Check out Tom Bruhl's mic shootout files here:
>
> http://www.mercysakes.com/paris/tbruhl110105
>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Gene,
>I have a very early 166 and a 161VU. Is it possible they
>use the same vca?!?! I couldn't find anything out doing a=20
>google search about it. I wonder if the new DBX (Harmon) would=20
>have any records on that? I'd open them up and look
>but I'm not sure which component is the VCA. =20
>
>Any tips for me to learn more? I'll look inside for clues.
>Tom
>
I know the 163 and the 166 share the same VCA (except as noted) and these
both have different envelopes-of-attack from the 161. This has a lot to do
with the overall sound.
I should point out that the person who told me about some of the early 166
boxes was not from DBX, but was a technician that I trusted and he should
have known. I could be wrong about this.
You should b
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te:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Hmm, so Gene, you;d say a Compeller could be =
good for=20
drum O/H's while tracking<BR>&gt;to keep form getting "overs" while =
still=20
getting a good hot signal into<BR>your<BR>&gt;pres?<BR>&gt;It is =
sort of=20
like an RNC on supernice no? Right now, I only have a =
lowly<BR>&gt;DBX 166=20
for this (old one) although, I read somewhere recently that=20
the<BR>old<BR>&gt;166's are close to the old ssl..Was that you who =
wrote=20
that? MAy have been<BR>&gt;Fletcher<BR>&gt;<BR><BR>The Compeller is =
very=20
much like a RNC on supernice. It has Servo =
transformerless,<BR>circuitry=20
that makes it VERY clean sounding. Unfortunately, it has no =
attack<BR>or=20
release controls so it is a little slow for drums. The Compeller=20
could<BR>best be described as an automatic leveler. It sounds like =
to an=20
engineer<BR>riding input levels rather than like a compressor. I =
have one=20
and use it<BR>on acoustic instruments and sometimes on vocals before =
an LA2a=20
or Distressor<BR>type compressor.<BR><BR>Some of the old 166 =
compressors=20
with the original DBX VCA do sound good.<BR>Closer to a 160VU than =
any other=20
DBX. I don't know what the serial number<BR>range is for the good =
units. I'm=20
not a fan of the later 166 and the early<BR>units are rare. I have a =
pair of=20
161s (Unbalanced 160VU) that I hold quite<BR>dear to my=20
heart.<BR>Gene<BR>.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY ></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C5E12E.BC05A940--The default is a folder on your desktop called *Unused Desktop Shortcuts*
that is built automatically. Try resizing the desktop and see if possibly it
got pulled out of range of your current desktop... if you're at 1024x768,
move to 800x600, apply, then resize back to 1024x768. Any icons outside of
the viewing area should be pushed back in that way.

AA


"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:436b05e4$1@linux...
>
> Thanks Aaron! I've got my computer and my docs, but where are all my
> short
> cuts? I the properties, it states that desktop clean up wizard placed
> them
> in a folder. What folder, where?
>
> Thanks
> James
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Yup. Left c
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br /> >
> Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though
> at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know
> you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on! I don't
> have a..." ;o)
>
> It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can watch
> what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the radio
> station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>
> Life is good. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
>I went through this same thing recently. First thing I did was purchase an
Apogee Big Ben. There was a noticable difference with big ben. Most
noticable in a wider sound field. It was really obvious when going back to
internal sync. I'd say it made a good 5% increase in quality.
The next thing I did was purchase a bunch of outboard gear. I was using
various gear in the external loops using the stock PARIS converters. The
biggest difference was strapping a Drawmer 1968 across the master bus. I'm
talking 20% increase in quality. Tracks really glued together. NoLimit pales
in comparison.
Then I purchased an Apogee DA and AD-16x. Even at 20bit (via ADAT) the
sound became less boxy, and more "pro" sounding. Increase in highs, tighter
bass, wider sound field. A good 10% better than the stock converters.
I have since switched to an RME/cubase SX system.

Anyway, if I could have only made one move, it would be the 1968 across the
mix bus.


"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:436b91a9@linux...
> What do you think of updating with an external wordclock and a high end
> D/A converter in lieu of a stereo compressor
>
> Thoughts and suggestions are more than welcome
>
> Don
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Thanks for the help Gene and Aaron.

>Some of the old 166 compressors with the original DBX VCA do sound =
good.
>Closer to a 160VU than any other DBX. =20

The problem is that my 166 needs repair. It's not worth repairing if
it isn't the model Gene refers to. I bought the 166 for $1,000 when =
they first
came out. I had to wait for delivery to the st
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;nbsp; =
I'd open=20
them up and look<BR>&gt;but I'm not sure which component is the VCA.=20
=3D20<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Any tips for me to learn more?&nbsp; I'll look =
inside for=20
clues.<BR>&gt;Tom<BR>&gt;<BR>I know the 163 and the 166 share the same =
VCA=20
(except as noted) and these<BR>both have different envelopes-of-attack =
from=20
the 161. This has a lot to do<BR>with the overall sound.<BR>I should =
point out=20
that the person who told me about some of the early 166<BR>boxes was =
not from=20
DBX, but was a technician that I trusted and he should<BR>have known. =
I could=20
be wrong about this.<BR>You should be in a good position to listen to =
the two=20
units side by side.<BR>This is really the best way anyway, =
particularly since=20
many of the older<BR>units are way overdue for a=20
rebuild/recalibration.<BR>Looking inside is not always helpful. The =
early VCAs=20
are not always labeled.<BR><BR><BR>The attached image looks generally =
like=20
most of the early VCAs.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_0117_01C5E143.826DCEA0--Just wondering if anyone has linked PARIS with an Ampex MM1200
using a Timeline Mycrolynx.

Just wondering if anyone can give me some advice
Thanx Dominic"I have very little cash though at the moment" that'll disappear once
the first woman is invited.

congrats on being house poor...you have achieved the american dream.
;o)

On 4 Nov 2005 21:29:05 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever. :o)
>It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.
>
>The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move... one
>keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall
>things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set up
>yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
>the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use, not
>built to move, or get in and out. ;o)
>
>But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom works...
Re: New House adventure. [message #59859 is a reply to message #59831] Fri, 04 November 2005 11:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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;
>>>Well, it depends on what you are doing. The external word clock would
>>>provide improvements with A/D-D/A conversion. If you are "mixing only",
>>>then the external word clock would only give benefits in monitoring while
>>>mixing. The internal bounce of the mix would not benefit from the word
>>>clock as it is a sample by sample mix. A high quality D/A converter
>>>would provide more accurate monitoring allowing you to make better
>>>informed decisions on the overall soundstage during mixing. What exactly
>>>will you be doing primarily? Tracking? Mixing? Both?
>>>
>>>David.
>>>
>>>Don Nafe wrote:
>>>
>>>>What do you think of updating with an external wordclock and a high end
>>>>D/A converter in lieu of a stereo compressor
>>>>
>>>>Thoughts and suggestions are more than welcome
>>>>
>>>>Don
>>
>>Congratulations Kim! The place looks great. You know what this means? You've
got to throw a party to break the place in. Call your mates and tell them
to bring you over some coldies!

Enjoy your independence!

James



"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever. :o)
>It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.
>
>The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move... one
>keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall
>things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set
up
>yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
>the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use, not
>built to move, or get in and out. ;o)
>
>But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom works...
> the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't
>work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system my
>work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected next
>week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving with
>me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence in
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---=_linux436be0cc--Well I'm told in Australia they call this style of house a "California Bungalow",
and San Diego being in California, you've no doubt recognised the style from
which we stole the design. ;o) I'm not sure why it's called a bungalow, because
it's clearly a house, but hey...

It is a nice design though. And I'm enjoying the higher ceilings than my
last place. The rooms are all a little reverberant at the moment however.
With the polished floor boards there is little to absorb audio, but once
I get some carpet mats I'm sure I'll get to appreciate the sound of the raised
ceilings.

Cheers,
Kim.

"DC" <dc@spamnationalcity.org> wrote:
>
>Hey Kim,
>
>If I didn't know better, I'd say you'd moved into one of the nicer
>spots in Chula Vista! (which is near San Diego)
>
>'Cept for those funny mains outlets...
>
>DC
>
>and yeah, there is still more stuff you forgot you needed... grrr"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>I can see that bay window featuring in to your control room somehow.

Well that was the original plan, but I don't know that I'm going to be able
to get my desk into that room. There are actually two bay windows in the
house. That front one is the master bedroom, and then there is a second one
on (based on that photo) the right of the house which is in the lounge. Unfortunately
it looks as if the control room will end up out the back in the sun room,
which is a little sad because it's quite a small room and the only one in
the house with a low ceiling. I'm still thinking about it at this stage.
Of course the advantage of using the sun room is that over winter I'd get
plenty of warmth and sunlight in the afternoon.

I was going to make the master bedroom the control room, sleep in the second
bedroom, and make the sunroom the guests room, but various things are working
against that and it doesn't look like happenning that way.

Cheers,
Kim."Rod Lincoln" <rlincoln@nospam.kc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Is that like "Master of you Domain"? ;-)

Hehe, that was a funny episode.

One of my friends made the remark that now that I live on my own I "...can
become one of those 'nude all the time' people". ;o) I haven't followed through
with the idea yet, but it's early days. ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.No I don't own the place, but my hope is that this will be the last renter.
If I hang in here a couple of years I should be able to get the finances
together to make a purchase with any luck. It's all part of the plan. When
I buy I likely wont be able to afford a place this close to the city, so
I want to live in here a bit and get some good quality "living" done in the
hope that when I buy I'm ready to move a bit further out...

....of course it could well backfire and have me end up just getting used
to the inner city lifestyle. We'll see. ;o)

It is great though. This morning, for example, is Saturday and I've gotten
up at 8:00 or so. At the old place the other two residents don't really get
up until midday or so, so there would usually be about four hours of tippy
toes around the house making no noise until everyone wakes up, trying to
find things to do which are quiet. Here, on the other hand, I can do what
I like. All the doors are open, the stereo's on.

And it's a wonderful looking day outside. :o)

Cheers,
Kim.

"uptown jimmy" <johnson314@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>Do you own? That's the real deal, the feeling of empowerment that cannot
be
>beaten.
>
>I'll never forget my first apartment. I rented, but the feeling of privacy
>and autonomy was tactile. Awesome feeling.
>
>Jimmy
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:436b37f1$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever.
:o)
>> It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.
>>
>> The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move...
one
>> keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall
>> things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set
up
>> yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
>> the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use,
not
>> built to move, or get in and out. ;o)
>>
>> But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom
>works...
>> the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't
>> work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system
my
>> work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected
next
>> week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving
>with
>> me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence
in
>> an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o)
>>
>> The great news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great
>> funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here
>compared
>> to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than
I've
>> ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well
>through
>> my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS
>for
>> once, the "government" and "world" TV stations.
>>
>> Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though
>> at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know
>> you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on!
I
>don't
>> have a..." ;o)
>>
>> It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can
>watch
>> what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the
>radio
>> station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>>
>> Life is good. :o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
>John <no@no.com> wrote:
>And the remote control is always exactly where you left it, unlike it
>was for ME this morning!

Hehe, well yes, in theory, BUT...

I have two TV's of the same brand, which both have an identical remote. At
the previous place my brother was using one, and didn't have batteries in
the remote. I'm currently too poor to buy batteries until next pay, so I
have to take the remote with the batteries to the TV I want to use, so every
night I'm about to get in bed and go "Oh, forgot the remote" and have to
go out to the lounge and get it. Then the next evening I go "Where's the
remote? Oh, in the bedroom!" and have to go get it again.

So I'm still managing to experience a remote control fiasco, but at least
I do know it will be wherever I put it, even if I have put it in the other
room. ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"I have very little cash though at the moment" that'll disappear once
>the first woman is invited.

Hehe. No women yet. I have $39 until next pay. Can't afford one. ;o)

>congrats on being house poor...you have achieved the american dream.
>;o)

And in an American styled house and all. I'll have the accent soon... ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.

>
>On 4 Nov 2005 21:29:05 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Well, I'm officially in and living on my own for the first time ever. :o)
>>It's been an adventure and a lot of work in the move.
>>
>>The guts of home is here. I've still got some minor stuff to move... one
>>keyboard and it's indoor stand, and various other accessories, but overall
>>things here are set up and happenning. The Paris system hasn't been set
up
>>yet mind you. It's in peices awaiting me to work out a method of getting
>>the Paris desk inside. ;o) When I built the desk it was built to use, not
>>built to move, or get in and out. ;o)
>>
>>But overall, the kitchen works... the lounge works... the bedroom works...
>> the toilet works... the phone works... mind you the internet doesn't
>>work yet. I'm currently on some kind of wireless "go anywhere" system my
>>work is trialing (fortunately) on my laptop. It's due to be connected next
>>week though, and once that happens the newsgroup server will be moving
with
>>me. It's currently sitting in my old bedroom at my previous residence in
>>an empty room. Doing it's job still I see though. ;o)
>>
>>The gre
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at news is that this Friday night PBS radio are playing some great
>>funk! The other great news is that I have fantastic TV reception here compared
>>to the old place. I can pick up every free to air channel better than I've
>>ever seen before through the main antenna in the lounge, and quite well
through
>>my dodgy rabbit ears in my bedroom. I'm enjoying picking up ABC and SBS
for
>>once, the "government" and "world" TV stations.
>>
>>Living on my own is certainly a new thing. I have very little cash though
>>at the moment, as I spent it all on those little bits that you don't know
>>you don't have until you move out of the share house and go "Hold on! I
don't
>>have a..." ;o)
>>
>>It's going to be fun though. It's wonderful to live somewhere you can watch
>>what you want, see who you want, put on the CD you want, listen to the
radio
>>station you want, and not be questioned about the whole thing. :o)
>>
>>L
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ife is good. :o)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>You've
>got to throw a party to break the place in.

Hehe. Yep, I'm on it! ;o) November 19th is the date. It's a dual purpose
party. Partly a house warming, and partly my 1/3 of a century birthday party!
Yes, in two weeks I will be exactly 1/3 of a century old! :o)

We already had a minor celebration the first night I slept here. A bunch
of us walked to a local band venue to see a friend of ours play in a band
(Karnivool for any Aussies who know them) and six people slept the night
in the new place that night. We had a fairly big one, stayed up till 4am
drinking, and then had to get up and lift heavy furniture... erghh, that
was a bad move. ;o)

Cheers,
Kim.Also, Don, what is your monitor situation like?



"benjamin" <none@a.a> wrote:
> I went through this same thi
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ng recently. First thing I did was purchase
an
>Apogee Big Ben. There was a noticable difference with big ben. Most
>noticable in a wider sound field. It was really obvious when going back
to
>internal sync. I'd say it made a good 5% increase in quality.
> The next thing I did was purchase a bunch of outboard gear. I was using

>various gear in the external loops using the stock PARIS converters. The

>biggest difference was strapping
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a Drawmer 1968 across the master bus. I'm

>talking 20% increase in quality. Tracks really glued together. NoLimit pales

>in comparison.
> Then I purchased an Apogee DA and AD-16x. Even at 20bit (via ADAT) the

>sound became less boxy, and more "pro" sounding. Increase in highs, tighter

>bass, wider sound field. A good 10% better than the stock converters.
>I have since switched to an RME/cubase SX system.
>
>Anyway, if I could have only made one move, it would be the 1968 across
the
>mix bus.
>
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote in message news:436b91a9@linux...
>> What do you think of updating with an external wordclock and a high end

>> D/A converter in lieu of a stereo compressor
>>
>> Thoughts and suggestions are more than welcome
>>
>> Don
>>
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>You've
>>got to throw a party to break the place in.
>
>Hehe. Yep, I'm on it! ;o) November 19th is the date. It's a dual purpose
>party. Partly a house warming, and partly my 1/3 of a century birthday party!
>Yes, in two weeks I will be exactly 1/3 of a century old! :o)
>
>We already had a minor celebration the first night I slept here. A bunch
>of us walked to a local band venue to see a friend of ours play in a band
>(Karnivool for any Aussies who know them) and six people slept the night
>in the new place that night. We had a fairly big one, stayed up till 4am
>drinking, and then had to get up and lift heavy furniture... erghh, that
>was a bad move. ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.


That sounds like partying like a rock star mode; )

Rock on my brother from down-under!

Jameshttp://housecall.antivirus.com

that should get you right, then you can evaluate if you really want to
wipe/reload

AA


"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:436bbb33$1@linux...
>
> She still no worky! This machine hasn't been right since I went on the
> internet
> with it. I think a bug may be eating my lunch, time to reinstall.
>
> Thanks
> James
>
> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>The default is a folder on your desktop called *Unused Desktop Shortcuts*
>
>>that is built automatically. Try resizing the desktop and see if possibly
> it
>>got pulled out of range of your current desktop... if you're at 1024x768,
>
>>move to 800x600, apply, then resize back to 1024x768. Any icons outside
> of
>>the viewing area should be pushed back in that way.
>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:436b05e4$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Thanks Aaron! I've got my computer and my docs, but where are all my
>
>>> short
>>> cuts? I the properties, it states that desktop clean up wizard placed
>
>>> them
>>> in a folder. What folder, where?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> James
>>>
>>> "Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wr
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ote:
>>>>Yup. Left click on the desktop, and turn off the desktop cleanup wizard:
>>>>Left click > properties>desktop tab>customize desktop>general tab,
>>>>uncheck
>>>
>>>>Run Desktop Cleanup Wizard
>>>>
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:436ab747$1@linux...
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't run my windows XP machine in awhile, I just started it up
> and
>>> I
>>>>> no longer have desk top Icons, what's up with that? It runs Ok, but
> no
>>>
>>>>> Icons.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thought you guys would kn
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ow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> James
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Last time I talked w/DBx, Tom Cram was the dude I spoke with, super =
guy/real helpful. I highly recommend him, he was instrumental in helping =
me rebuild one of my 160's when I got them a few years back.=20

tcram AT dbxpro DOT com

AA
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:436ba859@linux...
Thanks for the help Gene and Aaron.

>Some of the old 166 compressors with the original DBX VCA do sound =
good.
>Closer to a 160VU than any other DBX. =20

The problem is that my 166 needs repair. It's not worth repairing if
it isn't the model Gene refers to. I bought the 166 for $1,000 when =
they first
came out. I had to wait for delivery to the store. I'm pretty sure =
it was out of the
first run. I am running the serial number by DBX to see what they =
say. Also
looking for specialists in this field. I might call Eric at Earth =
Works.

Thanks for the info,
Tom

"gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message =
news:436b89f4$1@linux...

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Gene,
>I have a very early 166 and a 161VU. Is it possible they
>use the same vca?!?! I couldn't find anything out doing a=3D20
>google search about it. I wonder if the new DBX (Harmon) =
would=3D20
>have any records on that? I'd open them up and look
>but I'm not sure which component is the VCA. =3D20
>
>Any tips for me to learn more? I'll look inside for clues.
>Tom
>
I know the 163 and the 166 share the same VCA (except as noted) and =
these
both have different envelopes-of-attack from the 161. This has a lot =
to do
with the overall sound.
I should point out that the person who told me about some of the =
early 166
boxes was not from DBX, but was a technician that I trusted and he =
should
have known. I could be wrong about this.
You should be in a good position to listen to the two units side by =
side.
This is really the best way anyway, particularly since many of the =
older
units are way overdue for a rebuild/recalibration.
Looking inside is not always help
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ful. The early VCAs are not always =
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The attached image looks generally like most of the early VCAs.

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I have thought of contacting Alesis, but I think it would take a software
rewrite, and that is not likely to happen.

JM

"Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote:
>Yes Aaron, you're right... that pictures are from my and my
>friends spare components...
>But there is a huge
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.dude> wrote:
>http://housecall.antivirus.com
>
>that should get you right, then you can evaluate if you really want to
>wipe/reload
>
>AA
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:436bbb33$1@linux...
>>
>> She still no worky! This machine hasn't been right since I went on the

>> internet
>> with it. I think a bug may be eating my lunch, time to reinstall.
>>
>> Thanks
>> James
>>
>&
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t them a few years back.=20
>
>tcram AT dbxpro DOT com
>
>AA
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:436ba859@linux...
> Thanks for the help Gene and Aaron.
>
> >Some of the old 166 compressors with the original DBX VCA do sound =
>good.
> >Closer to a 160VU than any other DBX. =20
>
> The problem is that my 166 needs repair. It's not worth repairing if
> it isn't the model Gene refers to. I bought the 166 for $1,000 when =
>they first
> came out. I had to wait for delivery to the store. I'm pretty sure =
>it was out of the
> first run. I am running the serial number by DBX to see what they =
>say. Also
> looking for specialists in this field. I might call Eric at Earth =
>Works.
>
> Thanks for the info,
> Tom
>
> "gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message =
>news:436b89f4$1@linux...
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Gene,
> >I have a very early 166 and a 161VU. Is it possible they
> >use the same vca?!?! I couldn't find anything out doing a=3D20
> >google search about it. I wonder if the new DBX (Harmon) =
>would=3D20
> >have any records on that? I'd open them up and look
> >but I'm not sure which component is the VCA. =3D20
> >
> >Any tips for me to learn more? I'll look inside for clues.
> >Tom
> >
> I know the 163 and the 166 share the same VCA (except as noted) and
=
>these
> both have different envelopes-of-attack from the 161. This has a lot
=
>to do
> with the overall sound.
> I should point out that the person who told me about some of the =
>early 166
> boxes was not from DBX, but was a technician that I trusted and he =
>should
> have known. I could be wrong about this.
> You should be in a good position to listen to the two units side by
=
>side.
> This is really the best way anyway, particularly since many of the =
>older
> units are way overdue for a rebuild/recalibration.
> Looking inside is not always helpful. The early VCAs are not always
=
>labeled.
>
>
> The attached image looks generally like most of the early VCAs.
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
>charset=3Diso-8859-1">
><META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2769" name=3DGENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Last time I talked w/DBx, Tom Cram was
=
>the dude I=20
>spoke with, super guy/real helpful. I highly recommend him, he was =
>instrumental=20
>in helping me rebuild one of my 160's when I got them a few years back.=20
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audioguy_nospam_ is currently offline  audioguy_nospam_   CANADA
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Member
other DBX. =3D20
> >
> > The problem is that my 166 needs repair. It's not worth repairing
=
>if
> > it isn't the model Gene refers to. I bought the 166 for $1,000 =
Re: New House adventure. [message #59904 is a reply to message #59872] Sat, 05 November 2005 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Neil is currently offline  Neil
Messages: 1645
Registered: April 2006
Senior Member
>when =3D
> >they first
> > came out. I had to wait for delivery to the store. I'm pretty =
>sure =3D
> >it was out of the
> > first run. I am running the serial number by DBX to see what they
=
>=3D
> >say. Also
> > looking for specialists in this field. I might call Eric at Earth
=
>=3D
> >Works.
> >
> > Thanks for the info,
> > Tom
> >
> > "gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message =3D
> >news:436b89f4$1@linux...
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Gene,
> > >I have a very early 166 and a 161VU. Is it possible they
> > >use the same vca?!?! I couldn't find anything out doing =
>a=3D3D20
> > >google search about it. I wonder if the new DBX (Harmon) =3D
> >would=3D3D20
> > >have any records on that? I'd open them up and look
> > >but I'm not sure which component is the VCA. =3D3D20
> > >
> > >Any tips for me to learn more? I'll look inside for clues.
> > >Tom
> > >
> > I know the 163 and the 166 share the same VCA (except as noted) =
>and
> =3D
> >these
> > both have different envelopes-of-attack from the 161. This has a
=
>lot
> =3D
> >to do
> > with the overall sound.
> > I should point out that the person who told me about some of the
=
>=3D
> >early 166
> > boxes was not from DBX, but was a technician that I trusted and =
>he =3D
> >should
> > have known. I could be wrong about this.
> > You should be in a good position to listen to the two units side
=
>by
> =3D
> >side.
> > This is really the best way anyway, particularly since many of =
>the =3D
> >older
> > units are way overdue for a rebuild/recalibration.
> > Looking inside is not always helpful. The early VCAs are not =
>always
> =3D
> >labeled.
> >
> >
> > The attached image looks generally like most of the early VCAs.
> >
> >
> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> ><HTML><HEAD>
> ><META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D
> >charset=3D3Diso-8859-1">
> ><META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2769" name=3D3DGENERATOR>
> ><STYLE></STYLE>
> ></HEAD>
> ><BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Last time I talked w/DBx, Tom =
>Cram was
> =3D
> >the dude I=3D20
> >spoke with, super guy/real helpful. I highly recommend him, he was =
>=3D
> >instrumental=3D20
> >in helpin
Re: New House adventure. [message #59910 is a reply to message #59831] Sat, 05 November 2005 08:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jef knight[1] is currently offline  jef knight[1]   CANADA
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;>
>>>>> D/A converter in lieu of a stereo compressor
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts and suggestions are more than welcome
>>>>>
>>>>> Don
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>It sounds like you still don't have Card B/MEC2 synced to your WC.
To do this you'd to:

Add the following line to your Paris.cfg file:
UseHouseSync=1

Reboot.

Go to your Paris.exe file in your EMU folder and launch Paris from that. Set
your project sync source to Word Clock with whatever sample rate you prefer.

Save this project to your EMU folder as defaultproject.ppj. You can create a
shortcut to this project on your desktop.

Now launch Paris from this shortcut and see if your 2nd MEC locks up.

As for syncing to Cubase......I do it with a Paris ADAT module. You can run
a sync cable from the Paris ADAT module to the ADAT sync input of the
Digiface, set your RME control panel and Cubase SX and you're good to go.



"David" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:436c29ee$1@linux...
>
> I can tell, this is obviously a question that DJ will probably know the
answer
> to quick...
>
> I'm still having issues with my Paris system routing audio from my AD
cards
> into the mixer on Submix 2....This is a pain in the ass..meanwhile i have
> to work, so...
>
> I can use the first 16 tracks just fine on my Paris rig, and i'm having to
> record the last 8 tracks to my Cubase/RME/Digimax LT setup. I WC
everything
> together with mr Ben and i just hit record and get all 24 tracks...the
last
> two times i've done this i've sent the snare track to both setups so I can
> lock them together when mixing. I really don't know if this is going to
give
> me good results or not, but it almost doesn't matter, the last 6-8 tracks
> are room (I do live recordings, 1-16 are the stage, 17-24 are the room,
etc)
>
> My question is, can i lock these together somehow? is SMPTE m
Re: New House adventure. [message #59911 is a reply to message #59898] Sat, 05 November 2005 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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y answer? or
> should I just fukkin fix the paris rig and shut up about it.
>
> It is curious to me though, i'd like to know how to lock these tracks
together
> when i go to mix in Cubase and pull all the Paris tracks in with the 8
roomm
> mics.
Re: New House adventure. [message #59918 is a reply to message #59898] Sat, 05 November 2005 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Harrington is currently offline  Martin Harrington   AUSTRALIA
Messages: 560
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Senior Member
..." target="_blank">1@linux...
>> Well that was the original plan, but I don't know that I'm going to be

>> able
>>> to get my desk into that room.
>>
>> Well, you were talking about running around naked. this big window looks
>> sort of like the display windows of the brothels in Amsterdam........so
>> maybe you could.............errrr.............
>>
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:436be528$1@linux...
>>>
>>> "cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>> >I can see that bay window featuring in to your control room somehow.
>>>
>>> Well that was the original plan, but I don't know that I'm going to be
>> able
>>> to get my desk into that room. There are actually two bay windows in
the
>>> house. That front one is the master bedroom, and then there is a second
>> one
>>> on (based on that photo) the right of the house which is in the lounge.
>> Unfortunately
>>> it looks as if the control room will end up out the back in the sun room,
>>> which is a little sad because it's quite a small room and the only one
in
>>> the house with a low ceiling. I'm still thinking about it at this stage.
>>> Of course the advantage of using the sun room is that over winter I'd
get
>>> plenty of warmth and sunlight in the afternoon.
>>>
>>> I was going to make the master bedroom the control room, sleep in the
>> second
>>> bedroom, and make the sunroom the guests room, but various things are
>> working
>>> against that and it doesn't look like happenning that way.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kim.
>>
>>
>
>That was my feeling when it all went down, too. Emu did a big, long pre announcement
about the new Emu PARIS Pro, during which there were a whole lot of 'b' stock
items to buy at old prices - selling down inventory. And then it turns out
that even the new Emu PARIS Pro stuff was just old inventory repainted -
more selling down inventory. I really think that ID were the ones burnt
the worst in that deal because they actually spent money developing 3.0 during
that time thinking there was going to be long term growth over which they
could make their investment back.

It was a bad situation.

Mike

"JM" <notthistime@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>On the Adat ROM v.1.0 is the only version. Around 1999 I asked E P, MM,
and
>KM if we got a newer version of the Alesis ROM chip would the Adat card
pass
>24bits. They all got silent, look dumbfounded, and EP said I don't know
>why don't you find out and let us know. Well I was a P. dealer not their
>R & D department. I should have seen the writing on the wall, that they
>were not serious about developing the hardware. It is my opinion that
they
>wanted to slap paint and software on the product and liquidate there inventory!
>
>
>I have thought of contacting Alesis, but I think it would take a software
>rewrite, and that is not likely to happen.
>
>JM
>
>"Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote:
>>Yes Aaron, you're right... that pictures are from my and my
>>friends spare components...
>>But there is a huge potential.... to make a database with revisions, ROM-s,
>>etc...
>>
>>Via software? Definitely no...
>>maybe few things from "paris information" window.
>>
>>I'm wondering is there any MEC or ADAT with ROM higher than 1.00...
>>
>>Cheers!
>>
>>Suad
>>
>>
>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:436997c6@linux.
Re: New House adventure. [message #59919 is a reply to message #59872] Sat, 05 November 2005 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
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..
>>> This is a really good idea, but the problem is taking a working rig apart
>>to
>>> get that info... which I'm not sure too many users can/will do. Is there
>>a
>>> way anyone is aware of to get this kind of info w/o pulling a rig apart,
>>> say.. via software?
>>> AA
>>>
>>>
>>> "Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote in message news:43677648@linux...
>>> > Hello.
>>> >
>>> > Well, there are three cosmeticly different PARIS bundle 3 systems.
>>> > Black with imbus screws, than black with cross(phillips) screws and
>>blue.
>>> >
>>> > BUT, how many revisions are under the hood?
>>> > Every board inside the MEC, I/O, ADAT, EDS, etc.. has some
>>> > PCB (board) revision, year of manufacture and the firmware (ROM chip).
>>> >
>>> > I thought that we could make come research on how many revisions of
>>> > paris components and Firmware(ROM) revisions are there and which
>>> > ones are the newest.
>>> > ROM chips are easy to copy, so we can make some exchange.
>>> >
>>> > That could be an excelent guide to answer "why some Paris configurations
>>> > are working for someone and for someone not", and why some
>>configurations
>>> > doesn't work at all.
>>> >
>>> > Here are some pictures and revisions of some paris parts....
>>> >
Re: New House adventure. [message #59920 is a reply to message #59919] Sat, 05 November 2005 18:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Messages: 560
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Senior Member

>>> > I hope there will be a huge response for this topic.
>>> >
>>> > Greetings to all!!
>>> >
>>> > Suad Cokljat
>>> > Indigo Audio
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Basically I use the studio to track myself, and I'm also planning to do a
bit of mixing other people's stuff. Generally I don't track much for other
people these days. The room where the control room will end up is right out
the back, miles from the other rooms, but I figure what I will do is get
an appropriate loom that I can run from the control room into maybe the lounge
if occassion comes about that I do want to track something. I'll simply patch
in a mic in the studio and we should be able to communicate.

Looking for a place that's good for a studio though is quite a task. It really
can take over the house selection process. I've chosen to let the studio
take a back seat for a bit for now. If I had have insisted on a perfect studio
setup I reckon I could have spent a year looking and still come out dissapointed.
My budget, desired location, and the studio simply weren't compatible. One
of them had to give. Hopefully though when I leave this place I'll buy a
place, and when that happens I do plan to set up the studio properly. That's
a way off at the moment though. For now I want to live somewhere where I
can go out and live a bit. Obviously I need the studio to be here (or I will
die ;o) but if I need to do serious tracking I'm just going to have to get
it done somewhere else for now, and restrict my life here mostly to just
overdubs and mixdowns. Unfortunate, but hey...

Good luck with finding yourself a place.

Cheers,
Kim.

"Neil" <OIUOIU@OIU.com> wrote:
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>"cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote:
>>>I can see that bay window featuring in to your control room somehow.
>>
>>Well that was the original plan, but I don't know that I'm going to be
able
>>to get my desk into that room. There are actually two bay windows in th
Re: New House adventure. [message #59921 is a reply to message #59920] Sat, 05 November 2005 20:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DC is currently offline  DC
Messages: 722
Registered: July 2005
Senior Member
e
>>house. That front one is the master bedroom, and then there is a second
>one
>>on (based on that photo) the right of the house which is in the lounge.
>Unfortunately
>>it looks as if the control room will end up out the back in the sun room,
>>which is a little sad because it's quite a small room and the only one
in
>>the house with a low ceiling. I'm still thinking about it at this stage.
>>Of course the advantage of using the sun room is that over winter I'd get
>>plenty of warmth and sunlight in the afternoon.
>>
>>I was going to make the master bedroom the control room, sleep in the second
>>bedroom, and make the sunroom the guests room, but various things are working
>>against that and it doesn't look like happenning that way.
>
>So are you going to to set it up to have a control room, plus a
>separate recording room? Or are you mainly going to be tracking
>yourself & you just want a single room that works as a good
>control room that you can also mic something up in & monitor
>through headphones when you're tracking? Just curious?
>
>I'm actually looking at moving, myself... this place - which I
>thought would work out well for taking on some small projects
>in addition to doing my own stuff - is turning out to be not so
>conducive for that, after all. The couple of small outside
>projects that I've worked on here have proven that (part of the
>problem is the low ceilings, part of it is the layout of the
>place). Luckily, I got it at such a good price, that I should
>be able to turn a good profit on it if I sell, but then the
>issue becomes finding a place that DOES have the right
>configuration - which means, really, something that has a
>separate building with high ceilings, and of the right size
>overall.
>
>There are lots of places around here that have guest houses or
>what they call "mother in-law's apartments" added on, but so
>far none of them have been big enough, or they've had low
>ceilings, too. This girl I've been dating is a loan officer for
>a mortgage company, and one of her real estate agent friends
>told her about this house that's going on the market next week
>that seems to have everything I want... decent size, grass yard
>for the dogs, swimming pool, AND a separate building that is
>actually... (wait for it...) an INDOOR HANDBALL COURT!
>
>Drove by & looked at it from the outside yesterday... it is
>indeed a separate building, about 20 feet away from the house.
>The ceilings would definitely be high enough - I'm guessing
>about 16' to 18' high (it's towards the back a ways, so I could
>only guesstimate from the street), and it's big... the
>appraisal records have that building listed as 800 square feet.
>Plenty of room to build out a control room & recording room
>inside... I'm just crossing my fingers that it's a proper,
>traditional handball court, and that
Re: New House adventure. [message #59923 is a reply to message #59904] Sat, 05 November 2005 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
Senior Member
rked on here have proven that (part of the
> >problem is the low ceilings, part of it is the layout of the
> >place). Luckily, I got it at such a good price, that I should
> >be able to turn a good profit on it if I sell, but then the
> >issue becomes finding a place that DOES have the right
> >configuration - which means, really, something that has a
> >separate building with high ceilings, and of the right size
> >overall.
> >
> >There are lots of places around here that have guest houses or
> >what they call "mother in-law's apartments" added on, but so
> >far none of them have been big enough, or they've had low
> >ceilings, too. This girl I've been dating is a loan officer for
> >a mortgage company, and one of her real estate agent friends
> >told her about this house that's going on the market next week
> >that seems to have everything I want... decent size, grass yard
> >for the dogs, swimming pool, AND a separate building that is
> >actually... (wait for it...) an INDOOR HANDBALL COURT!
> >
> >Drove by & looked at it from the outside yesterday... it is
> >indeed a separate building, about 20 feet away from the house.
> >The ceilings would definitely be high enough - I'm guessing
> >about 16' to 18' high (it's towards the back a ways, so I could
> >only guesstimate from the street), and it's big... the
> >appraisal records have that building listed as 800 square feet.
> >Plenty of room to build out a control room & recording room
> >inside... I'm just crossing my fingers that it's a proper,
> >traditional handball court, and that the floors & wall
> >surfaces are wood!
> >
> >Neil
>Well today was sunny and 30. Beautiful again.

Tomorrow they're talking about rain though, but at least it was good for
the weekend. :o)

Cheers,
Kim.

"Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>Luxury...
>BTW, Sydney is 21C and cloudy/rainy.
>
>--
>Martin Harrington
>www.lendanear-sound.com
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:436c3540@linux...
>>
>> "Martin Harrington" <lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>> >>>And it's a wonderful looking day outside. :o)<<<
>>>In Melbourne ??? ;-p
>>
>> Hehe. Yes! It's 23 and not a cloud in the sky...
>>
>> ...and my mate trev's havin' a barby this arvo. ;o)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
>nyuk nyik nyuk

On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 08:59:28 +1100, "Martin Harrington"
<lendan@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

>I resemble that remark.. ;-pluckily ID says they are still going to have an upgrade to the software
so we'll be sitting pretty very very SOON. If you email them today they
still insist they will have an upgrade. Amazing ! Can anyone imagine
that this could actually happen?

Mike Audet wrote:
> That was my feeling when it all went down, too. Emu did a big, long pre announcement
> about the new Emu PARIS Pro, during which there were a whole lot of 'b' stock
> items to buy at old prices - selling down inventory. And then it turns out
> that even the new Emu PARIS Pro stuff was just old inventory repainted -
> more selling down inventory. I really think that ID were the ones burnt
> the worst in that deal because they actually spent money developing 3.0 during
> that time thinking there was going to be long term growth over which they
> could make their investment back.
>
> It was a bad situation.
>
> Mike
>
> "JM" <notthistime@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>On the Adat ROM v.1.0 is the only version. Around 1999 I asked E P, MM,
>
> and
>
>>KM if we got a newer version of the Alesis ROM chip would the Adat card
>
> pass
>
>>24bits. They all got silent, look dumbfounded, and EP said I don't know
>>why don't you find out and let us know. Well I was a P. dealer not their
>>R & D department. I should have seen the writing on the wall, that they
>>were not serious about developing the hardware. It is my opinion that
>
> they
>
>>wanted to slap paint and software on the product and liquidate there inventory!
>>
>>
>>I have thought of contacting Alesis, but I think it would take a software
>>rewrite, and that is not likely to happen.
>>
>>JM
>>
>>"Suad" <

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Deej [1] is currently offline  Deej [1]   UNITED STATES
Messages: 2149
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blank">suad@sail.hr> wrote:
>>
>>>Yes Aaron, you're right... that pictures are from my and my
>>>friends spare components...
>>>But there is a huge potential.... to make a database with revisions, ROM-s,
>>>etc...
>>>
>>>Via software? Definitely no...
>>>maybe few things from "paris information" window.
>>>
>>>I'm wondering is there any MEC or ADAT with ROM higher than 1.00...
>>>
>>>Cheers!
>>>
>>>Suad
>>>
>>>
>>>"Aaron Allen" <nospam@not_here.dude> wrote in message news:436997c6@linux...
>>>
>>>>This is a really good idea, but the problem is taking a working rig apart
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>>get that info... which I'm not sure too many users can/will do. Is there
>>>
>>>a
>>>
>>>>way anyone is aware of to get this kind of info w/o pulling a rig apart,
>>>>say.. via software?
>>>>AA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Suad" <suad@sail.hr> wrote in message news:43677648@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>Hello.
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, there are three cosmeticly different PARIS bundle 3 systems.
>>>>>Black with imbus screws, than black with cross(phillips) screws and
>>>
>>>blue.
>>>
>>>>>BUT, how many revisions are under the hood?
>>>>>Every board inside the MEC, I/O, ADAT, EDS, etc.. has some
>>>>>PCB (board) revision, year of manufacture and the firmware (ROM chip).
>>>>>
>>>>>I thought that we could make come research on how many revisions of
>>>>>paris components and Firmware(ROM) revisions are there and which
>>>>>ones are the newest.
>>>>>ROM chips are easy to copy, so we can make some exchange.
>>>>>
>>>>>That could be an excelent guide to answer "why some Paris configurations
>>>>>are working for someone and for someone not", and why some
>>>
>>>configurations
>>>
>>>>>doesn't work at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>Here are some pictures and revisions of some paris parts....
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope there will be a huge response for this topic.
>>>>>
>>>>>Greetings to all!!
>>>>>
>>>>>Suad Cokljat
>>>>>Indigo Audio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>To fully utilize an Apple display, I'll need to upgrade my Mac G4 from OS
9.2.1 to 9.2.2. Anyone know from experience whether or not OS 9.2.2 works
well with Paris 3.0?

Many thanks and best wishes,
Richard FaylorI have read a buch of stuff over at Gearslutz about this mic,
Some thoghts were that it was too airy. Others love it.
Do you noticed an exagerated top on it? From the clip you sent me, it seems
it may do very well on a Martin or something.



"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>I think this mic will work for anything you throw at it. As with any other
>mic, whether or not it will be the best mic for the job will depend on
the
>source/mic/preamp interaction. I don't have a U47 here, but I'd guess from
>the comparisons I've heard that it would work nicely on the same kind of
>sources that you would use this kind of mic for. I have had good success
>using it with both male and female vocalists, though I haven't used it on
>projects in the rock genre. When I think of rock, I think of an SM57 into
a
>Neve'esque kinda' preamp so that the singer can stick the mic down his
>throat if he wants to and the capsule won't collapse.
>
>;o)
>
>"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:436ad457$1@linux...
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey Deej,
>> I know you have a SE Gemini,
>> Can you tell me what you think it would do on rock vocals?
>> I know you do a ton of acoustic stuff, will this thing get atttiude?
>> Is is to whispy for that? Is it harsh or sibilant?
>> How is the noise floor? Could it hold up infront of a drum kit?
>>
>> Please tell all ASAP, as I may have a deal on one.
>>
>
>What about the 160X? Gene, do you like these and if so what for?
Also, are you guys now saying the extra conversion by going external at the
mix buss is not a big deal? If so anyone ever run a mix thtrough a pair of
Mic Pres (GR NV 0or API or somthing) before the compressor to beef things
up?





>
>>Some of the old 166 compressors with the original DBX VCA do sound =
>good.
>>Closer to a 160VU than any other DBX. =20
>
>The problem is that my 166 needs repair. It's not worth repairing if
>it isn't the model Gene refers to. I bought the 166 for $1,000 when =
>they first
>came out. I had to wait for delivery to the store. I'm pretty sure it
=
>was out of the
>first run. I am running the serial number by DBX to see what they say.
=
>Also
>looking for specialists in this field. I might call Eric at Earth =
>Works.
Re: New House adventure. [message #59925 is a reply to message #59891] Sun, 06 November 2005 01:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim is currently offline  Kim
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>
>Thanks for the info,
>Tom
>
> "gene lennon" <glennon@NOSPmyrealbox.com> wrote in message =
>news:436b89f4$1@linux...
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Gene,
> >I have a very early 166 and a 161VU. Is it possible they
> >use the same vca?!?! I couldn't find anything out doing a=3D20
> >google search about it. I wonder if the new DBX (Harmon) would=3D20
> >have any records on that? I'd open them up and look
> >but I'm not sure which component is the VCA. =3D20
> >
> >Any tips for me to learn more? I'll look inside for clues.
> >Tom
> >
> I know the 163 and the 166 share the same VCA (except as noted) and =
>these
> both have different envelopes-of-attack from the 161. This has a lot =
>to do
> with the overall sound.
> I sh
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rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
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ould point out that the person who told me about some of the early
=
>166
> boxes was not from DBX, but was a technician that I trusted and he =
>should
> have known. I could be wrong about this.
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