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Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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Hey everyone,
Chris Ludwig talked me out of it.
Not good for music.

Good to know.
Cheers,
Tom

"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:42c44f8a@linux...
As Pete thankfully mentioned in an earlier thread,
Comp USA is running a sale tomorrow on this computer.
$200 seems pretty cheap if it'll do the job.
I'd want to up the ram, add a drive, disable/
delete crazy amounts of trial software.
The onboard graphics chip may be a limiting
factor but for one monitor it seems like it'll do.
After reading the specs tell me if you think it's worth it.

Here's the specs:
Compaq Presario - SR 1520 NX
AMD Sempron 3100+, 256kb L2 cache (Eeeeew),
512 Meg RAM (ouch) upgradeable to 2 Gig, 160 GB 7200rpm HD,=20
16x DVD +RW drive.

Modifications I expect:
I'm thinking the C drive may need a new install of OS to clean it up.
Isn't that next to impossible with a proprietary Compaq?=20

A second Softsynth drive ($20.00 for a 80GIG WD 8 meg cache!)

An RME type audio card or some other way to send the synths
to PARIS. Size of chassis may prohibit some cards.

An outboard Midi card.

My application is to use it as an outboard softsynth box. Now I use =
a stand=20
alone Paris rig (3.0 P4) and a stand alone Cubase rig (AMD 1.4mgz). =
My budget=20
is so low that I really can't afford even the $200 BUT I will if it's =
going to suffice=20
and be better than waiting 4 years for a used/obsolete comp then =
maybe.

My main concern is Compaq's proprietary setup. Can I, will I need to =
reinstall
Windows on the C drive? After reading specs, these things worry me:

3 PCI slots

Onboard graphics chip - No AGP slot!!!

Enough onboard 60 day trial software to make it stop and die.

16.54" Depth Room for an RME or equivalent sound card?
15.35" Height " " " " "
7.17" Width " " " " "

Is this whole thing stupid to consider? Sale is tomorrow but
I don't want something that's going to be a big problem. =20

All opinions welcome!
Tom=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey everyone,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris Ludwig talked me out of =
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not good for music.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good to know.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:42c44f8a@linux">news:42c44f8a@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As Pete thankfully mentioned in an =
earlier=20
thread,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Comp USA is running a sale tomorrow =
on this=20
computer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$200 seems pretty cheap if it'll do =
the=20
job.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd want to up the ram, add a drive,=20
disable/</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>delete </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>crazy=20
amounts of trial software.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The onboard graphics chip may be a=20
limiting</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>factor but for one monitor it seems =
like it'll=20
do.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After reading the specs tell me if =
you think it's=20
worth it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's the specs:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Compaq Presario -&nbsp;SR =
1520=20
NX</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>AMD Sempron 3100+, 256kb L2 =
cache=20
(Eeeeew),</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>512 Meg RAM (ouch) =
upgradeable to 2=20
Gig, 160 GB 7200rpm HD, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>16x DVD +RW =
drive.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><U>Modifications I=20
expect:</U></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I'm thinking the C drive =
may need a new=20
install of OS to clean it up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Isn't that next to =
impossible with a=20
proprietary Compaq?&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>A second Softsynth drive =
($20.00 for a=20
80GIG WD 8 meg cache!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>An RME type audio card or =
some other=20
way to send the synths</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>to PARIS.&nbsp; Size of =
chassis may=20
prohibit some cards.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>An outboard&nbsp;Midi=20
card.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">My application is to =
use it as an=20
outboard softsynth box.&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans =
MS">Now I=20
use a stand </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">alone Paris rig (3.0 =
P4)&nbsp;and=20
a stand alone </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Cubase </FONT><FONT=20
face=3D"Comic Sans MS">rig (AMD 1.4mgz).&nbsp; My budget =
</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">is so low that I =
really can't=20
afford </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">even the $200 BUT I will if =
it's=20
going to suffice </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">and be better than =
waiting=20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">4 years for a used/obsolete comp =
then=20
maybe.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad? [message #55107 is a reply to message #55105] Thu, 30 June 2005 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>3 PCI slots</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Onboard graphics chip =
-=20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">No AGP slot!!!</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Enough onboard 60 day trial =
software to=20
make it stop and die.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>16.54"=20
=
Depth&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;& nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;& n=
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Room for an RME or equivalent sound card?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Is this whole thing stupid =
to=20
consider?&nbsp; Sale is tomorrow but</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I don't want something =
that's going to=20
be a big problem.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D2>All opinions=20
welcome!</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
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------=_NextPart_000_011A_01C57D9D.DD56FC10--Hey Tom,
Thanks for posting.I was wondering if this could be used for
music too.I was thinking probably not,but damn that $200 makes
you think what if, doesn't it.

So what did Chris say as far as it not being a good idea?

Pete


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hey everyone,
>Chris Ludwig talked me out of it.
>Not good for music.
>
>Good to know.
>Cheers,
>Tom
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
>news:42c44f8a@linux...
> As Pete thankfully mentioned in an earlier thread,
> Comp USA is running a sale tomorrow on this computer.
> $200 seems pretty cheap if it'll do the job.
> I'd want to up the ram, add a drive, disable/
> delete crazy amounts of trial software.
> The onboard graphics chip may be a limiting
> factor but for one monitor it seems like it'll do.
> After reading the specs tell me if you think it's worth it.
>
> Here's the specs:
> Compaq Presario - SR 1520 NX
> AMD Sempron 3100+, 256kb L2 cache (Eeeeew),
> 512 Meg RAM (ouch) upgradeable to 2 Gig, 160 GB 7200rpm HD,=20
> 16x DVD +RW drive.
>
> Modifications I expect:
> I'm thinking the C drive may need a new install of OS to clean it up.
> Isn't that next to impossible with a proprietary Compaq?=20
>
> A second Softsynth drive ($20.00 for a 80GIG WD 8 meg cache!)
>
> An RME type audio card or some other way to send the synths
> to PARIS. Size of chassis may prohibit some cards.
>
> An outboard Midi card.
>
> My application is to use it as an outboard softsynth box. Now I use
=
>a stand=20
> alone Paris rig (3.0 P4) and a stand alone Cubase rig (AMD 1.4mgz). =
>My budget=20
> is so low that I really can't afford even the $200 BUT I will if it's
=
>going to suffice=20
> and be better than waiting 4 years for a used/obsolete comp then =
>maybe.
>
> My main concern is Compaq's proprietary setup. Can I, will I need to
=
>reinstall
> Windows on the C drive? After reading specs, these things worry me:
>
> 3 PCI slots
>
> Onboard graphics chip - No AGP slot!!!
>
> Enough onboard 60 day trial software to make it stop and die.
>
> 16.54" Depth Room for an RME or equivalent sound card?
> 15.35" Height " " " " "
> 7.17" Width " " " " "
>
> Is this whole thing stupid to consider? Sale is tomorrow but
> I don't want something that's going to be a big problem. =20
>
> All opinions welcome!
> Tom=20
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey everyone,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Chris Ludwig talked me out of =
>it.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not good for music.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good to know.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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> <DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
>in message=20
> <A href=3D"news:42c44f8a@linux">news:42c44f8a@linux</A>...</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As Pete thankfully mentioned in an =
>earlier=20
> thread,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Comp USA is running a sale tomorrow =
>on this=20
> computer.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>$200 seems pretty cheap if it'll do =
>the=20
> job.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd want to up the ram, add a drive,=20
> disable/</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>delete </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
>size=3D2>crazy=20
> amounts of trial software.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The onboard graphics chip may be a=20
> limiting</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>factor but for one monitor it seems =
>like it'll=20
> do.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>After reading the specs tell me if =
>you think it's=20
> worth it.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here's the specs:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Compaq Presario - SR =
>1520=20
> NX</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>AMD Sempron 3100+, 256kb L2
=
>cache=20
> (Eeeeew),</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>512 Meg RAM (ouch) =
>upgradeable to 2=20
> Gig, 160 GB 7200rpm HD, </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>16x DVD +RW =
>drive.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2><U>Modifications I=20
> expect:</U></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I'm thinking the C drive =
>may need a new=20
> install of OS to clean it up.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Isn't that next to =
>impossible with a=20
> proprietary Compaq? </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>A second Softsynth drive =
>($20.00 for a=20
> 80GIG WD 8 meg cache!)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>An RME type audio card or =
>some other=20
> way to send the synths</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>to PARIS.  Size of =
>chassis may=20
> prohibit some cards.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>An outboard Midi=20
>card.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">My application is to
=
>use it as an=20
> outboard softsynth box.   </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans =
>MS">Now I=20
> use a stand </FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">alone Paris rig (3.0
=
>P4) and=20
> a stand alone </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Cubase </FONT><FONT=20
> face=3D"Comic Sans MS">rig (AMD 1.4mgz).  My budget =
></FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">is so low that I =
>really can't=20
> afford </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">even the $200 BUT I will if
=
>it's=20
> going to suffice </FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">and be better than =
>waiting=20
> </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">4 years for a used/obsolete comp =
>then=20
> maybe.</FONT>
Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad? [message #55108 is a reply to message #55107] Thu, 30 June 2005 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pete Ruthenburg is currently offline  Pete Ruthenburg   
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> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>My main concern is Compaq's
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> setup.  Can I, will I need to reinstall</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Windows on the C =
>drive? =20
> After reading specs, these things worry me:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>3 PCI slots</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Onboard graphics chip
=
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> </FONT><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS">No AGP slot!!!</FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Enough onboard 60 day trial
=
>software to=20
> make it stop and die.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>16.54"=20
> =
>Depth           &n=
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> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Is this whole thing stupid
=
>to=20
> consider?  Sale is tomorrow but</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>I don't want something =
>that's going to=20
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> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><FONT size=3D2>All opinions=20
> welcome!</FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D2>Tom </FONT></DIV>
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Pete,
Here's Chris' response.

Hi Tom,
If the on board video is shared then I don't think it would be worth=20
while for audio work. I would suck balls for gaming!
It should be fine for Internet though. It is probably a Via or SIS chip=20
set which can also be an issue. Also the power supply is at best 200=20
watts and probably not replaceable with a standard atx one.

Chris

"Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message =
news:42c4ad87$1@linux...

Hey Tom,
Thanks for posting.I was wondering if this could be used for
music too.I was thinking probably not,but damn that $200 makes=20
you think what if, doesn't it.

So what did Chris say as far as it not being a good idea?

Pete


"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hey everyone,
>Chris Ludwig talked me out of it.
>Not good for music.
>
>Good to know.
>Cheers,
>Tom
>
> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =3D
>news:42c44f8a@linux...
> As Pete thankfully mentioned in an earlier thread,
> Comp USA is running a sale tomorrow on this computer.
> $200 seems pretty cheap if it'll do the job.
> I'd want to up the ram, add a drive, disable/
> delete crazy amounts of trial software.
> The onboard graphics chip may be a limiting
> factor but for one monitor it seems like it'll do.
> After reading the specs tell me if you think it's worth it.
>
> Here's the specs:
> Compaq Presario - SR 1520 NX
> AMD Sempron 3100+, 256kb L2 cache (Eeeeew),
> 512 Meg RAM (ouch) upgradeable to 2 Gig, 160 GB 7200rpm HD,=3D20
> 16x DVD +RW drive.
>
> Modifications I expect:
> I'm thinking the C drive may need a new install of OS to clean it =
up.
> Isn't that next to impossible with a proprietary Compaq?=3D20
>
> A second Softsynth drive ($20.00 for a 80GIG WD 8 meg cache!)
>
> An RME type audio card or some other way to send the synths
> to PARIS. Size of chassis may prohibit some cards.
>
> An outboard Midi card.
>
> My application is to use it as an outboard softsynth box. Now I =
use
=3D
>a stand=3D20
> alone Paris rig (3.0 P4) and a stand alone Cubase rig (AMD 1.4mgz). =
=3D
>My budget=3D20
> is so low that I really can't afford even the $200 BUT I will if =
it's
=3D
>going to suffice=3D20
> and be better than waiting 4 years for a used/obsolete comp then =
=3D
>maybe.
>
> My main concern is Compaq's proprietary setup. Can I, will I need =
to
=3D
>reinstall
> Windows on the C drive? After reading specs, these things worry =
me:
>
> 3 PCI slots
>
> Onboard graphics chip - No AGP slot!!!
>
> Enough onboard 60 day trial software to make it stop and die.
>
> 16.54" Depth Room for an RME or equivalent sound card?
> 15.35" Height " " " " "
> 7.17" Width " " " " "
>
> Is this whole thing stupid to consider? Sale is tomorrow but
> I don't want something that's going to be a big problem. =3D20
>
> All opinions welcome!
> Tom=3D20

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=
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Tom,<BR>&nbsp; Thanks for posting.I was wondering if this could be =
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<BR>you=20
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Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad? [message #55109 is a reply to message #55108] Thu, 30 June 2005 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tom Bruhl is currently offline  Tom Bruhl   UNITED STATES
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------=_NextPart_000_0166_01C57DD4.4CB22810--I'm GMT +10 hours, so from what I can tell we're 9 hours ahead of you. Hence
a good time for you to call would probably be, say, in the morning your time.
Obviously it wont be a problem if you call me too early in the day your time.
Before 1 or 2pm would be good, but on weekends it could be later. 3pm your
time weekends would be fine I'd say.

The hard part will be that I'm often not home, and I imagine you don't get
super cheap rates to mobiles. I'll shoot you an email with my number and
some details.

Cheers,
Kim.

"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote:
>Yeahhhh, I have something similar here in Norway and have used it some
>couple of months, the IP telephone that's using landline phones too. I am

>paying 159 norwegian crowns each month and can ring free to whole
>Scandinavia, WestEurope, USA and Canada. Most of the other countries as

>Australia, I can ring for 100 minutes free each month. So I can see, it's
a
>real new world that have opened up with the internet phone the last years.

>Just give me your phonenumber Kim, and I'll call you. If it will be in the

>middle of a night in Australia, I don't know, so maybe it's a good idea
to
>know how different the time are showing up in different countries. I've
had
>some phonecalles from an old scoolfriend of mine some years ago, that's

>living in Los Angeles. It wasn't show at all to wake up in the middle of
the
>night to the phone and talk with a half drunk'n person that had forgot
all
>about the time difference and trying to be nice with him at 4 o'clock in
the
>morning when it was just early evening in Los Angeles;-)
>
>Cheers,
>erlilo
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:42c3ca70$1@linux...
>>
>>
>> Hehe. Well, maybe not all 150 people or whatever who answered the roll

>> call
>> a while back, but I've found a place where I can make calls to places
like
>> the U.K, U.S.A, Germany, Greece, and all the like all for the tempting

>> price
>> of, would you beleive, NOTHING AT ALL!!! And that's to actual landline

>> phones,
>> not to other net phones.
>>
>> Hence, when I get VOIP in a few months I'm going to make a post for people
>> to send their phone numbers, and then call someone every night, or day,
or
>> whatever time is convenient relative to timelines and the like. ;o)
>>
>> Well, as TXU, or TRUenergy would say, I'M exited by my new plan, even
if
>> you're not. (Aussie (maybe Vic) joke).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>
>After much talk, over the next couple of weeks I'll likely be upgrading my
Paris PC. It seems though that the MB I had pegged runs PCI2.3, which is
3.3V PCI slots, while Paris needs 5v slots.

Anybody got a good alternative. I'm thinking AMD64 with SATA, but that may
be hard given the PCI issue. Anybody got a good option?

Cheers,
Kim."maybe its the medication"...now that's bad news...the doctors told me
that the drugs would do nothing but help me achieve clarity...crap...

On 1 Jul 2005 06:02:56 +1000, "Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:

>
>I;m a bit confused.......maybe its the medication.
>
>
>"jason Miles" <Jmiles45@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>Gantt Kushner <gizmo@his.com> wrote:
>>>Check it out...
>>>
>>>I wanna be just like him when I grow up!
>>>
>>>Gantt
>>>
>>The Grass ain't always greener on the otherside
>>Peace, JM
>>"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>I;m a bit confused.......maybe its the medication.
>
>
>"jason Miles" <Jmiles45@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>Gantt Kushner <gizmo@his.com> wrote:
>>>Check it out...
>>>
>>>
>>The Grass ain't always greener on the otherside
>>Peace, JM

You need to be happy in your life-everybodies life has different circumstances-The
level of concentration and what I go through to make my projects happen would
make you think twice.I get up and don't work on music till about 5 Pm as
I go through tons of business stuff eveyday that would definately sour many
people on
the music business. I have been doing this for 30 years now
and have seen the business go through major changes but
not as major as what's going on now.
I have been very blessed to work with some truly incredible artists and musicians.
I'm just saying that work with what you
have and make it the best you can. That will take you
to the next level.
The Guys from Spyro Gyra are really great guys
I've known Jay for many years and he's been a great supporter of my work.
Tom Schuman is one of the Baddest keyboard players
in the world and I've used him on a number of projects.
I still love using Paris
JM
>>
>Anybody know this for sure.

I'm guessing that PCI 2.2 is fine, but PCI 2.3 is not. PCI 2.2 was invented
December 1998, right when Paris was doing it's thing. PCI 2.3 is something
you see in the latest MBs from the last 6-12 months only, and claims to have
a little, but not a lot, of 5v compatibility, and I don't trust it to run
a Paris EDS card.

See:

http://www.pcisig.com/news_room/news/press_releases/2002_03_ 20/2002_03_20.pdf

or:

http://www.windowsitpro.com/Windows/Article/ArticleID/9064/9 064.html

....which says:

"PCI cards and slots are keyed by voltage (i.e., 5 volts or 3.3 volts). Although
universal PCI cards are notched for both 5 volts and 3.3 volts, PCI slot
connectors can be keyed for only one voltage. PCI 2.1 and 2.0 specifications
permitted both 5-volt and 3.3-volt signaling; PCI 2.2 favored 3.3-volt signaling
but also supported 5-volt signaling. (PCI 2.2 cards can be 5 volt, 3.3 volt,
or universal; vendors have designed most PCI 2.2 cards as universal cards.)
When PCI cards and slots use 5-volt signaling, they operate at a maximum
speed of 33MHz; only 3.3-volt PCI slots can support higher bandwidths. Therefore,
all PCI-X slots are 3.3-volt slots. PCI-X slots work with universal PCI cards
and 3.3-volt cards but don't work with 5-volt-only cards. Universal PCI-X
cards operate at 33MHz in a 5-volt slot, at speeds as fast as 66MHz in a
3.3-volt PCI 2.2 slot, and at speeds as fast as 133MHz in a 3.3-volt PCI-X
slot. As when you mix SCSI devices of different speeds, mixing PCI and PCI-X
cards on the same bus causes the speed of the PCI-X bus and all other cards
on the bus to operate at the slowest card's speed."

I'm thinking I need 2.2...? Anyone?

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>After much talk, over the next couple of weeks I'll likely be upgrading
my
>Paris PC. It seems though that the MB I had pegged runs PCI2.3, which is
>3.3V PCI slots, while Paris needs 5v slots.
>
>Anybody got a good alternative. I'm thinking AMD64 with SATA, but that may
>be hard given the PCI issue. Anybody got a good option?
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Jason,
Ah, so the grass IS greener after 5:00 Pm.
I knew it!

Yours is great work either way.
Tom
"Jason Miles" <Jmiles45@aol.com> wrote in message =
news:42c51a6c$1@linux...

"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>I;m a bit confused.......maybe its the medication.
>
>
>"jason Miles" <Jmiles45@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>Gantt Kushner <gizmo@his.com> wrote:
>>>Check it out...
>>>
>>>
>>The Grass ain't always greener on the otherside
>>Peace, JM

You need to be happy in your life-everybodies life has different =
circumstances-The
level of concentration and what I go through to make my projects =
happen would
make you think twice.I get up and don't work on music till about 5 Pm =
Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad? [message #55118 is a reply to message #55109] Fri, 01 July 2005 08:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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2 Gig, 160 GB 7200rpm HD,=3D20
> 16x DVD +RW drive.
>
> Modifications I expect:
> I'm thinking the C drive may need a new install of OS to clean it =
up.
> Isn't that next to impossible with a proprietary Compaq?=3D20
>
> A second Softsynth drive ($20.00 for a 80GIG WD 8 meg cache!)
>
> An RME type audio card or some other way to send the synths
> to PARIS. Size of chassis may prohibit some cards.
>
> An outboard Midi card.
>
> My application is to use it as an outboard softsynth box. Now I =
use
=3D
>a stand=3D20
> alone Paris rig (3.0 P4) and a stand alone Cubase rig (AMD =
1.4mgz). =3D
>My budget=3D20
> is so low that I really can't afford even the $200 BUT I will if =
it's
=3D
>going to suffice=3D20
> and be better than waiting 4 years for a used/obsolete comp then =
=3D
>maybe.
>
> My main concern is Compaq's proprietary setup. Can I, will I =
need to
=3D
>reinstall
> Windows on the C drive? After reading specs, these things worry =
me:
>
> 3 PCI slots
>
> Onboard graphics chip - No AGP slot!!!
>
> Enough onboard 60 day trial software to make it stop and die.
>
> 16.54" Depth Room for an RME or equivalent sound =
card?
> 15.35" Height " " " " "
> 7.17" Width " " " " =
"
>
> Is this whole thing stupid to consider? Sale is tomorrow but
> I don't want something that's going to be a big problem. =3D20
>
> All opinions welcome!
> Tom=3D20


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I feel bad.</FONT></DIV>
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Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad? [message #55120 is a reply to message #55118] Fri, 01 July 2005 08:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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; &gt;<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; "Tom Bruhl" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote =
in message=20
=3D<BR>&nbsp; &gt;news:42c44f8a@linux...<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; As Pete =
thankfully=20
mentioned in an earlier thread,<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Comp USA is =
running a=20
sale tomorrow on this computer.<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; $200 seems pretty =
cheap=20
if it'll do the job.<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; I'd want to up the ram, add =
a drive,=20
disable/<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; delete crazy amounts of trial=20
software.<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; The onboard graphics chip may be a=20
limiting<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; factor but for one monitor it seems like =
it'll=20
do.<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; After reading the specs tell me if you think =
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&gt;&nbsp; Compaq Presario - SR 1520 NX<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; AMD =
Sempron=20
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(ouch)=20
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DVD +RW=20
drive.<BR>&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; Modifications I =
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&gt;&nbsp; I'm thinking the C drive may need a new install of OS to =
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proprietary=20
Compaq?=3D20<BR>&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; A second Softsynth =
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($20.00 for a 80GIG WD 8 meg cache!)<BR>&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp; An=20
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to PARIS.&nbsp; Size of chassis may prohibit some cards.<BR>&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; An outboard Midi card.<BR>&nbsp; =
&gt;<BR>&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; My application is to use it as an outboard softsynth=20
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stand=3D20<BR>&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; alone Paris rig (3.0 P4) and a stand alone Cubase rig (AMD=20
1.4mgz).&nbsp; =3D<BR>&nbsp; &gt;My budget=3D20<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
is so low=20
that I really can't afford even the $200 BUT I will if it's<BR>&nbsp;=20
=3D<BR>&nbsp; &gt;going to suffice=3D20<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; and be =
better than=20
waiting 4 years for a used/obsolete comp then =3D<BR>&nbsp; =
&gt;maybe.<BR>&nbsp;=20
&gt;<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; My main concern is Compaq's proprietary =
setup.&nbsp;=20
Can I, will I need to<BR>&nbsp; =3D<BR>&nbsp; &gt;reinstall<BR>&nbsp; =
&gt;&nbsp;=20
Windows on the C drive?&nbsp; After reading specs, these things worry=20
me:<BR>&nbsp; &gt;<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; 3 PCI slots<BR>&nbsp; =
&gt;<BR>&nbsp;=20
&gt;&nbsp; Onboard graphics chip - No AGP slot!!!<BR>&nbsp; =
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tomorrow=20
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welcome!<BR>&nbsp; &gt;&nbsp; =
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------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C57E31.788226E0--Yeh, now's the day to celebrate you too, Martin. A big congratulation here
from Norway! It's 55 years, as far as my old brain are telling me!?!:-)

ErlingAhhhh...........so today's the day? Well, so much for my feeble memory. I
thought Martin's B'day wa on the 29th. Anyway, here's to you Martin.

;o)

"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:42c56a66$1@linux...
> Yeh, now's the day to celebrate you too, Martin. A big congratulation here
> from Norway! It's 55 years, as far as my old brain are telling me!?!:-)
>
> Erling
>
>Who is Martin ?
:)
Dimitrios

Mr Simplicity wrote:
> Ahhhh...........so today's the day? Well, so much for my feeble memory. I
> thought Martin's B'day wa on the 29th. Anyway, here's to you Martin.
>
> ;o)
>
> "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:42c56a66$1@linux...
>
>>Yeh, now's the day to celebrate you too, Martin. A big congratulation here
>>from Norway! It's 55 years, as far as my old brain are telling me!?!:-)
>>
>>Erling
>>
>>
>
>
>Here's a recent pic. Strange things hppen when you turn 55. He came out of
this lookin pretty good. I, OTOH, now look like Janine Garafolo.

;oP


"DImitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:42c5725e$1@linux...
> Who is Martin ?
> :)
> Dimitrios
>
> Mr Simplicity wrote:
> > Ahhhh...........so today's the day? Well, so much for my feeble memory.
I
> > thought Martin's B'day wa on the 29th. Anyway, here's to you Martin.
> >
> > ;o)
> >
> > "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:42c56a66$1@linux...
> >
> >>Yeh, now's the day to celebrate you too, Martin. A big congratulation
here
> >>from Norway! It's 55 years, as far as my old brain are telling me!?!:-)
> >>
> >>Erling
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >


"Nappy" <mgrant01@san.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Oh.....I see. Its like when rich people say that money gives them more
problems
>and we poor people say "I'll take those problems"
>
>Big time CEO: I had to go to a boardmeeting this morning to discuss
>possible layoffs, How I'm I suppose to get in 18 holes of golf
>today and host a dinner party on my yacht before sunset.
>
That is a very funny post if you're reffering to myself-I am not rich nor
even close to it. I live in a very modests house and don't drive a really
fancy car. I have given my life to music
and my projects don't bring me big advances or royalties-I keep the quality
high in a world where most labels and artists
just care about how commercial the music is. My wife and I run
our business and sacrifice alot to make sure that we do the
highest quality music happen.
I know lots of scumbags and greedy people that have taken everything out
they could from the music business. Look at
The Warner music group and what they've turned a once proud label into-so
if your post was meant to insult me or make me into something I'm not you
should get to know the person before
you make generalizations about one's life
JMHardy, har, har Deej. I found a picture of you too!

Happy Birthday for real Martin.

Tony


"Mr Simplicity" <animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:42c57661@linux...
> Here's a recent pic. Strange things hppen when you turn 55. He came out of
> this lookin pretty good. I, OTOH, now look like Janine Garafolo.
>
> ;oP
>
>
> "DImitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:42c5725e$1@linux...
>> Who is Martin ?
>> :)
>> Dimitrios
>>
>> Mr Simplicity wrote:
>> > Ahhhh...........so today's the day? Well, so much for my feeble memory.
> I
>> > thought Martin's B'day wa on the 29th. Anyway, here's to you Martin.
>> >
>> > ;o)
>> >
>> > "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:42c56a66$1@linux...
>> >
>> >>Yeh, now's the day to celebrate you too, Martin. A big congratulation
> here
>> >>from Norway! It's 55 years, as far as my old brain are telling me!?!:-)
>> >>
>> >>Erling
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>
>


speaking of memories...mr.slackerheimer...

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:27:39 -0600, "Mr Simplicity"
<animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote:

>Ahhhh...........so today's the day? Well, so much for my feeble memory. I
>thought Martin's B'day wa on the 29th. Anyway, here's to you Martin.
>
>;o)
>
>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:42c56a66$1@linux...
>> Yeh, now's the day to celebrate you too, Martin. A big congratulation here
>> from Norway! It's 55 years, as far as my old brain are telling me!?!:-)
>>
>> Erling
>>
>>
>and i thought the men in the midwest had problems...sheesh...

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:54:35 -0500, "Tony Benson" <t o n y@s t a n d i
n g h a m p t o n.c o m> wrote:

>Hardy, har, har Deej. I found a picture of you too!
>
>Happy Birthday for real Martin.
>
>Tony
>
>
>"Mr Simplicity" <animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote in message
>news:42c57661@linux...
>> Here's a recent pic. Strange things hppen when you turn 55. He came out of
>> this lookin pretty good. I, OTOH, now look like Janine Garafolo.
>>
>> ;oP
>>
>>
>> "DImitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message news:42c5725e$1@linux...
>>> Who is Martin ?
>>> :)
>>> Dimitrios
>>>
>>> Mr Simplicity wrote:
>>> > Ahhhh...........so today's the day? Well, so much for my feeble memory.
>> I
>>> > thought Martin's B'day wa on the 29th. Anyway, here's to you Martin.
>>> >
>>> > ;o)
>>> >
>>> > "erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> wrote in message news:42c56a66$1@linux...
>>> >
>>> >>Yeh, now's the day to celebrate you too, Martin. A big congratulation
>> here
>>> >>from Norway! It's 55 years, as far as my old brain are telling me!?!:-)
>>> >>
>>> >>Erling
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>
>>
>>
>in the old days some tried to get the talent into the bed room and not
for making music...so to speak. now, that's pretty much where the
music is being made...sad to say. around here a lot of the bands do
much of their recording at home then come in for mixing and a little
dubbing.

On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 08:20:39 -0600, Dedric Terry <dedric@keyofd.net>
wrote:

>Jason and others - I am curious what you see happening over the next few
>years, if that's something you wouldn't mind speculating on. We all have
>our predictions and mine are quite drastic, but I'm sure you have a
>different perspective, experience and insight. The better we see where the
>business itself is headed, the better prepared we are to survive the
>changes.
>
>Running a media production company with a partner, and raising a family, I'm
>always watching to see if what we do will be valuable in the next year, two,
>five or ten so we always have a needed product to offer. Given technology
>changes, some of what we've considered part of the &
Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad? [message #55130 is a reply to message #55120] Fri, 01 July 2005 11:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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; >
> > Hi Tom,
> > If the on board video is shared then I don't think it would be worth
> > while for audio work. I would suck balls for gaming!
> > It should be fine for Internet though. It is probably a Via or SIS chip
> > set which can also be an issue. Also the power supply is at best 200
> > watts and probably not replaceable with a standard atx one.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > "Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:42c4ad87$1@linux...
> >
> > Hey Tom,
> > Thanks for posting.I was wondering if this could be used for
> > music too.I was thinking probably not,but damn that $200 makes
> > you think what if, doesn't it.
> >
> > So what did Chris say as far as it not being a good idea?
> >
> > Pete
> >
> >
> > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Hey everyone,
> > >Chris Ludwig talked me out of it.
> > >Not good for music.
> > >
> > >Good to know.
> > >Cheers,
> > >Tom
> > >
> > > "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
> > >news:42c44f8a@linux...
> > > As Pete thankfully mentioned in an earlier thread,
> > > Comp USA is running a sale tomorrow on this computer.
> > > $200 seems pretty cheap if it'll do the job.
> > > I'd want to up the ram, add a drive, disable/
> > > delete crazy amounts of trial software.
> > > The onboard graphics chip may be a limiting
> > > factor but for one monitor it seems like it'll do.
> > > After reading the specs tell me if you think it's worth it.
> > >
> > > Here's the specs:
> > > Compaq Presario - SR 1520 NX
> > > AMD Sempron 3100+, 256kb L2 cache (Eeeeew),
> > > 512 Meg RAM (ouch) upgradeable to 2 Gig, 160 GB 7200rpm HD,=20
> > > 16x DVD +RW drive.
> > >
> > > Modifications I expect:
> > > I'm thinking the C drive may need a new install of OS to clean it
up.
> > > Isn't that next to impossible with a proprietary Compaq?=20
> > >
> > > A second Softsynth drive ($20.00 for a 80GIG WD 8 meg cache!)
> > >
> > > An RME type audio card or some other way to send the synths
> > > to PARIS. Size of chassis may prohibit some cards.
> > >
> > > An outboard Midi card.
> > >
> > > My application is to use it as an outboard softsynth box. Now I
use
> > =
> > >a stand=20
> > > alone Paris rig (3.0 P4) and a stand alone Cubase rig (AMD
1.4mgz). =
> > >My budget=20
> > > is so low that I really can't afford even the $200 BUT I will if
it's
> > =
> > >going to suffice=20
> > > and be better than waiting 4 years for a used/obsolete comp then =
> > >maybe.
> > >
> > > My main concern is Compaq's proprietary setup. Can I, will I need
to
> > =
> > >reinstall
> > > Windows on the C drive? After reading specs, these things worry
me:
> > >
> > > 3 PCI slots
> > >
> > > Onboard graphics chip - No AGP slot!!!
> > >
> > > Enough onboard 60 day trial software to make it stop and die.
> > >
> > > 16.54" Depth Room for an RME or equivalent sound card?
> > > 15.35" Height " " " " "
> > > 7.17" Width " " " " "
> > >
> > > Is this whole thing stupid to consider? Sale is tomorrow but
> > > I don't want something that's going to be a big problem. =20
> > >
> > > All opinions welcome!
> > > Tom=20
>ARRRGGGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

;oP

OK! OK!.......now I remember!!!!!!!!!!!!.

"rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:104bc1l96pmpifasr4pee5sagc9rt49ln2@4ax.com...
> speaking of memories...mr.slackerheimer...
>
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 10:27:39 -0600, "Mr Simplicity"
> <animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote:
>
> >Ahhhh...........s
Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad? [message #55132 is a reply to message #55130] Fri, 01 July 2005 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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problems"
>>>
>>>Big time CEO: I had to go to a boardmeeting this morning to discuss
>>>possible layoffs, How I'm I suppose to get in 18 holes of golf
>>>today and host a dinner party on my yacht before sunset.
>>>
>>That is a very funny post if you're reffering to myself-I am not rich nor
>>even close to it. I live in a very modests house and don't drive a really
>>fancy car. I have given my life to music
>>and my projects don't bring me big advances or royalties-I keep the quality
>>high in a world where most labels and artists
>>just care about how commercial the music is. My wife and I run
>>our business and sacrifice alot to make sure that we do the
>>highest quality music happen.
>>I know lots of scumbags and greedy people that have taken everything out
>>they could from the music business. Look at
>>The Warner music group and what they've turned a once proud label into-so
>>if your post was meant to insult me or make me into something I'm not you
>>should get to know the person before
>>you make generalizations about one's life
>>JM
>You all have probably all been through this, so maybe you can help me.

How do you record and playback MIDI info in Paris 3.0?

Say you want to sync a Synth box to paris using MIDI clock.

Can this be done? There doesn't appear to be any way to get MIDI signal
in and out of PARIS.

TIA

Panic:
>I for one didn't find Jason's reply condisending. I just took it as Jason
>wasn't feeling to much like someone who should be looked up to.
>
Thank you for seeing my comment the way it was supposed to be taken
Peace, JM

P.S-that was some nasty shit Mr.nappy said to me-I won't even retort that
as believe it or not that shit hurtsI've been running Paris on 98SE with very few problems. I'd like to
run a couple of other apps on the same rig - is anyone running Paris
on 2000 Pro? If so, any drawbacks?

Thanks - Donyha have a good christmas everyone

"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>Best wishes for the weekend, Party Hearty and drive safely
>
>I'm outta here!
>
>Don
>
>what, too early...... he did say "pre holiday wishes"

"michael bliss" <mbliss1@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>yha have a good christmas everyone
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>Best wishes for the weekend, Party Hearty and drive safely
>>
>>I'm outta here!
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>what, too early...... he did say "pre holiday wishes"

"michael bliss" <mbliss1@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>yha have a good christmas everyone
>
>"Don Nafe" <dnafe@magma.ca> wrote:
>>Best wishes for the weekend, Party Hearty and drive safely
>>
>>I'm outta here!
>>
>>Don
>>
>>
>VIA chipsets. How did they pan out in the end? I'm condidering the ASUS A8V
perhaps. Anybody using it?

http://au.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=15&l3=68&a mp;model=238&modelmenu=1

There seems to be so much variation is people's MB experiences...

Cheers,
Kim.

"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Anybody know this for sure.
>
>I'm guessing that PCI 2.2 is fine, but PCI 2.3 is not. PCI 2.2 was invented
>December 1998, right when Paris was doing it's thing. PCI 2.3 is something
>you see in the latest MBs from the last 6-12 months only, and claims to
have
>a little, but not a lot, of 5v compatibility, and I don't trust it to run
>a Paris EDS card.
>
>See:
>
> http://www.pcisig.com/news_room/news/press_releases/2002_03_ 20/2002_03_20.pdf
>
>or:
>
> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Windows/Article/ArticleID/9064/9 064.html
>
>...which says:
>
>"PCI cards and slots are keyed by voltage (i.e., 5 volts or 3.3 volts).
Although
>universal PCI cards are notched for both 5 volts and 3.3 volts, PCI slot
>connectors can be keyed for only one voltage. PCI 2.1 and 2.0 specifications
>permitted both 5-volt and 3.3-volt signaling; PCI 2.2 favored 3.3-volt signaling
>but also supported 5-volt signaling. (PCI 2.2 cards can be 5 volt, 3.3 volt,
>or universal; vendors have designed most PCI 2.2 cards as universal cards.)
>When PCI cards and slots use 5-volt signaling, they operate at a maximum
>speed of 33MHz; only 3.3-volt PCI slots can support higher bandwidths. Therefore,
>all PCI-X slots are 3.3-volt slots. PCI-X slots work with universal PCI
cards
>and 3.3-volt cards but don't work with 5-volt-only cards. Universal PCI-X
>cards operate at 33MHz in a 5-volt slot, at speeds as fast as 66MHz in a
>3.3-volt PCI 2.2 slot, and at speeds as fast as 133MHz in a 3.3-volt PCI-X
>slot. As when you mix SCSI devices of different speeds, mixing PCI and PCI-X
>cards on the same bus causes the speed of the PCI-X bus and all other cards
>on the bus to operate at the slowest card's speed."
>
>I'm thinking I need 2.2...? Anyone?
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>After much talk, over the next couple of weeks I'll likely be upgrading
>my
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ng a sale tomorrow on this computer.
> > $200 seems pretty cheap if it'll do the job.
> > I'd want to up the ram, add a drive, disable/
> > delete crazy amounts of trial software.
> > The onboard graphics chip may be a limiting
> > factor but for one monitor it seems like it'll do.
> > After reading the specs tell me if you think it's worth it.
> >
> > Here's the specs:
> > Compaq Presario - SR 1520 NX
> > AMD Sempron 3100+, 256kb L2 cache (Eeeeew),
> > 512 Meg RAM (ouch) upgradeable to 2 Gig, 160 GB 7200rpm HD,=20
> > 16x DVD +RW drive.
> >
> > Modifications I expect:
> > I'm thinking the C drive may need a new install of OS to clean
> it up.
> > Isn't that next to impossible with a proprietary Compaq?=20
> >
> > A second Softsynth drive ($20.00 for a 80GIG WD 8 meg cache!)
> >
> > An RME type audio card or some other way to send the synths
> > to PARIS. Size of chassis may prohibit some cards.
> >
> > An outboard Midi card.
> >
> > My application is to use it as an outboard softsynth box. Now
> I use
> =
> >a stand=20
> > alone Paris rig (3.0 P4) and a stand alone Cubase rig (AMD
> 1.4mgz). =
> >My budget=20
> > is so low that I really can't afford even the $200 BUT I will if
> it's
> =
> >going to suffice=20
> > and be better than waiting 4 years for a used/obsolete comp then =
> >maybe.
> >
> > My main concern is Compaq's proprietary setup. Can I, will I
> need to
> =
> >reinstall
> > Windows on the C drive? After reading specs, these things worry me:
> >
> > 3 PCI slots
> >
> > Onboard graphics chip - No AGP slot!!!
> >
> > Enough onboard 60 day trial software to make it stop and die.
> >
> > 16.54" Depth Room for an RME or equivalent sound card?
> > 15.35" Height " " " " "
> > 7.17" Width " " " " "
> >
> > Is this whole thing stupid to consider? Sale is tomorrow but
> > I don't want something that's going to be a big problem. =20
> >
> > All opinions welcome!
> > Tom=20

--
Chris Ludwig
ADK
chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
(859) 635-5762Thanks. I saw all the stuff on that when I looked through the
various sites on Paris. The trouble is, I can't get MIDI out of the
MEC to clock anything else with.

I wonder if there is a MIDI - Sp/dif convertor somewhere so I could
record MIDI as an audio track.

hmmmm

Panic

rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>i believe you can only load midi files and play them back. the set up
>for this is in the project window.
>
>On 2 Jul 2005 06:56:17 +1000, "Colonel Panic" <Panic@home.nowhere>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>You all have probably all been through this, so maybe you can help me.
>>
>>How do you record and playback MIDI info in Paris 3.0?
>>
>>Say you want to sync a Synth box to paris using MIDI clock.
>>
>>Can this be done? There doesn't appear to be any way to get MIDI signal
>>in and out of PARIS.
>>
>>TIA
>>
>>Panic
>There is no midi interface integrated into the Paris hardware. My
suggestion, based on a post by one of our own who had midi sync working
flawlessly between Paris and Nuendo on a second computer, would be to
purchase a Steinberg Midex unit. Once the hardware is installed, the driver
will show in the midi devices menu of the Paris application. Choose the
Mides midi out as the master and attach a midi cable to the midi in of your
slave device and set the software application to slave to incoming midi
timecode and choose the midi input that is connected to the Midex midi out
to be the receiving port.

You can also achieve sample accurate sync by slaving a third party device
that has a 9 pin ADAT sync input port to ADAT timecode being broadcast from
a Paris ADAT module.........if you can find one.

Deej



"Colonel Panic" <Panic@home.nowhere> wrote in message
news:42c6a2c6$1@linux...
>
> Thanks. I saw all the stuff on that when I looked through the
> various sites on Paris. The trouble is, I can't get MIDI out of the
> MEC to clock anything else with.
>
> I wonder if there is a MIDI - Sp/dif convertor somewhere so I could
> record MIDI as an audio track.
>
> hmmmm
>
> Panic
>
> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >i believe you can only load midi files and play them back. the set up
> >for this is in the project window.
> >
> >On 2 Jul 2005 06:56:17 +1000, "Colonel Panic" <Panic@home.nowhere>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>You all have probably all been through this, so maybe you can help me.
> >>
> >>How do you record and playback MIDI info in Paris 3.0?
> >>
> >>Say you want to sync a Synth box to paris using MIDI clock.
> >>
> >>Can this be done? There doesn't appear to be any way to get MIDI
signal
> >>in and out of PARIS.
> >>
> >>TIA
> >>
> >>Panic
> >
>Hi Panic,

It doesn't sound to me like you have a complete undestanding of how to synch
2 devices via MIDI.

You mentioned MIDI clocks, which was a cheap way to synch two devices for
people who could not afford smpte when MIDI programs had to be synced to
tape decks. PARIS doesn't support this.

PARIS can output SMPTE via MIDI time code. Check the manual for deatils
on how to do this. I'm not at my PARIS PC, and I'm afraid that I'll give
you inacurate directions if I try to.

MIDI Time code is SMTE sent via MIDI commands. It's not sample accurate,
and I find that it drifts if PARIS gets overloaded with lots of DX plugins.

What I do, is record a SMPTE stripe on a track in PARIS and play that back
through an old MIDIMAN Smart Sync which converts the track to MTC. I then
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/> feed the MTC into a seperate PC running Windows 98 and Cakewalk Pro 9. I
believe that the Smartsync can be set to output MIDI clocks instead of MTC,
so that might be an option for you.

Good luck!

Mike



"Colonel Panic" <Panic@home.nowhere> wrote:
>
>Thanks. I saw all the stuff on that when I looked through the
>various sites on Paris. The trouble is, I can't get MIDI out of the
>MEC to clock anything else with.
>
>I wonder if there is a MIDI - Sp/dif convertor somewhere so I could
>record MIDI as an audio track.
>
>hmmmm
>
>Panic
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>i believe you can only load midi files and play them back. the set up
>>for this is in the project window.
>>
>>On 2 Jul 2005 06:56:17 +1000, "Colonel Panic" <Panic@home.nowhere>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>You all have probably all been through this, so maybe you can help me.
>>>
>>>How do you record and playback MIDI info in Paris 3.0?
>>>
>>>Say you want to sync a Synth box to paris using MIDI clock.
>>>
>>>Can this be done? There doesn't appear to be any way to get MIDI signal
>>>in and out of PARIS.
>>>
>>>TIA
>>>
>>>Panic
>>
>For me, it seems you used a more "sexy" tone in the typo earlier. I can't
see any sexy at all about IRAQ, weapons and mass destruction.;-)

erlilo

"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:42c69908@linux...
> Heh
> Well fine then. I make one little mistake and everybody gets on my back.
> It's like if I said that IRAQ had weapons of mass destruction or something
> jeez.
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> Alex Plasko wrote:
>
>> The move to Kentucky has finally taken it's toll. (((((come back
>> Chris)))))
>> "rick" <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hf4bc15cvjlqm4pa0tdpbrbc33cbtsq5d2@4ax.com...
>>
>>>chris could be a girls name...too and not just a reallllllllly happy
>>>guy.
>>>
>>>On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:38:59 -0400, "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I should have fixed that before posting...
>>>>
>>>>I feel bad.
>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>> "Tony Benson" <t o n y@s t a n d i n g h a m p t o n.c o m> wrote in
>>
>> message news:42c5630d@linux...
>>
>>>> Does anyone else see the funny typo in Chris' response. At least I hope
>>
>> it's
>>
>>>> a typo! ;>)
>>>> Sorry, but when I read it I couldn't help but laugh. Don't feel bad
>>
>> Chris. I
>>
>>>> type too fast sometimes also.
>>>>
>>>> Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:42c4c767@linux...
>>
>>>> Pete,
>>>> Here's Chris' response.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>> If the on board video is shared then I don't think it would be worth
>>>> while for audio work. I would suck balls for gaming!
>>>> It should be fine for Internet though. It is probably a Via or SIS chip
>>>> set which can also be an issue. Also the power supply is at best 200
>>>> watts and probably not replaceable with a standard atx one.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> "Pete Ruthenburg" <ruthenburg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:42c4ad87$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hey Tom,
>>>> Thanks for posting.I was wondering if this could be used for
>>>> music too.I was thinking probably not,but damn that $200 makes
>>>> you think what if, doesn't it.
>>>>
>>>>
Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad? [message #55171 is a reply to message #55166] Sat, 02 July 2005 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
erlilo is currently offline  erlilo   NORWAY
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at it drifts if PARIS gets overloaded with lots of DX plugins.
>
>What I do, is record a SMPTE stripe on a track in PARIS and play that back
>through an old MIDIMAN Smart Sync which converts the track to MTC. I then
>feed the MTC into a seperate PC running Windows 98 and Cakewalk Pro 9.
I
>believe that the Smartsync can be set to output MIDI clocks instead of MTC,
>so that might be an option for you.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Mike
>
>
>
>"Colonel Panic" <Panic@home.nowhere> wrote:
>>
>>Thanks. I saw all the stuff on that when I looked through the
>>various sites on Paris. The trouble is, I can't get MIDI out of the
>>MEC to clock anything else with.
>>
>>I wonder if there is a MIDI - Sp/dif convertor somewhere so I could
>>record MIDI as an audio track.
>>
>>hmmmm
>>
>>Panic
>>
>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>i believe you can only load midi files and play them back. the set up
>>>for this is in the project window.
>>>
>>>On 2 Jul 2005 06:56:17 +1000, "Colonel Panic" <Panic@home.nowhere>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>You all have probably all been through this, so maybe you can help me.
>>>>
>>>>How do you record and playback MIDI info in Paris 3.0?
>>>>
>>>>Say you want to sync a Synth box to paris using MIDI clock.
>>>>
>>>>Can this be done? There doesn't appear to be any way to get MIDI signal
>>>>in and out of PARIS.
>>>>
>>>>TIA
>>>>
>>>>Panic
>>>
>>
>Most readily obeyed commands-

Lie down on the couch-GOOD DOG!!!!

Eat that dried pig ear-GOOD DOG!!!!

Chew on that giant rawhide bone-GOOD DOG!!!!

Big yawn-GOOD DOG!!!!

Stretch-GOOD DOG!!!!!

Watch TV all day-GOOD DOG!!!!!

Intimidate the ****out of the mailman-GOOD DOG!!!!

Dig a hole in the back yard that is deep enough from me to fall into and
disappear-GOOD DOG!!!!!

Roll in something dead-GOOD DOG!!!!

Kill that skunk-GOOD DOG

Eat the cat food-GOOD DOG!!!!!

Chase the cat-GOOD DOG!!!!

Jump up on the bed after I've gone to sleep and step on my head-GOOD DOG!!!!

Eat $200.00 worth of food a month-GOOD DOG!!!!!

Steal a loaf of bread off the kitchen counter-GOOD DOG!!!!

Steal a pound of butter off the kitchen counter-GOOD DOG!!!!!

Steal a pound of cheese off the counter-GOOD DOG!!!!

Steal a brisket off the kitchen counter and eat it on the living room
carpet-GOOD DOG!!!!

Drink out of your bowl and then walk up and drool all over me-GOOD DOG!

Drink out of the toilet and then walk up and drool all over me-GOOD DOG!

Bark feriociously at any sound that you hear within 100 meters of the house
between midnight and sunrise and literally vibrate the walls to the point
where I am bounced out of bed-GOOD DOG!!!!!!!

Pretend that my favorite pillow is a rabbit that you need to kill-GOOD
DOG!!!!

There are other commands that they will obey also, but these are the best
ones when you really need instant obedience.

;o)Cool. I think that may work.

Here's exactly what I want to do:

Use one of these:

http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/products/adrenalinn2.shtml

with PARIS.

It has only 2 outputs, so you either actually use the drums mixed
with the effected guitar for the final track (ouch!) or you track the
drums first, then the effected guitar (using their very cool beat-
synched fx) seperately with MIDI clocking the AdrenaLinn from
Paris, then replace the drum track with an actual human.

So, I need to record MIDI at the same time as the drum track.

Do you think the Midex will let me do this in Paris and then play it
back to control the AdrenaLinn while tracking guitar?

I wouldn't go through all this if the AdrenaLinn wasn't so darn cool.

thanks

Panic


"Mr Simplicity" <animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote:
>There is no midi interface integrated into the Paris hardware. My
>suggestion, based on a post by one of our own who had midi sync working
>flawlessly between Paris and Nuendo on a second computer, would be to
>purchase a Steinberg Midex unit. Once the hardware is installed, the driver
>will show in the midi devices menu of the Paris application. Choose the
>Mides midi out as the master and attach a midi cable to the midi in of your
>slave device and set the software application to slave to incoming midi
>timecode and choose the midi input that is connected to the Midex midi out
>to be the receiving port.
>
>You can also achieve sample accurate sync by slaving a third party device
>that has a 9 pin ADAT sync input port to ADAT timecode being broadcast from
>a Paris ADAT module.........if you can find one.
>
>Deej
>
>
>
>"Colonel Panic" <Panic@home.nowhere> wrote in message
>news:42c6a2c6$1@linux...
>>
>> Thanks. I saw all the stuff on that when I looked through the
>> various sites on Paris. The trouble is, I can't get MIDI out of the
>> MEC to clock anything else with.
>>
>> I wonder if there is a MIDI - Sp/dif convertor somewhere so I could
>> record MIDI as an audio track.
>>
>> hmmmm
>>
>> Panic
>>
>> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >i believe you can only load midi files and play them back. the set up
>> >for this is in the project window.
>> >
>> >On 2 Jul 2005 06:56:17 +1000, "Colonel Panic" <Panic@home.nowhere>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>You all have probably all been through this, so maybe you can help me.
>> >>
>> >>How do you record and playback MIDI info in Paris 3.0?
>> >>
>> >>Say you want to sync a Synth box to paris using MIDI clock.
>> >>
>> >>Can this be done? There doesn't appear to be any way to get MIDI
>signal
>> >>in and out of PARIS.
>> >>
>> >>TIA
>> >>
>> >>Panic
>> >
>>
>
>Thanks Mike,

What do you think of the scenario I described to Mr. Simplicity?

Would it work?

Panic


"Mike Audet" <mike@....com> wrote:
>
>Actually, I doubt that the Smartsync can output MIDI clocks. You'd have
to
>be able to tell it the tempo somehow.
>
>I'd sync Cakwalk vis MTC and have it generate MIDI clocks if you really
want
>to use your keyboard as a sequencer. it would be easier to just use Cakewalk
>as your sequencer, though.
>
>All the best,
>Mike
>
>
>"Mike Audet" <mike@.....com> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Panic,
>>
>>It doesn't sound to me like you have a complete undestanding of how to
synch
>>2 devices via MIDI.
>>
>>You mentioned MIDI clocks, which was a cheap way to synch two devices for
>>people who could not afford smpte when MIDI programs had to be synced to
>>tape decks. PARIS doesn't support this.
>>
>
Re: Compaq Presario for softsynth box. Good or bad? [message #55210 is a reply to message #55166] Sun, 03 July 2005 02:17 Go to previous message
rick is currently offline  rick   UNITED STATES
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
Senior Member
ear-GOOD DOG!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Chew on that giant rawhide bone-GOOD DOG!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Big yawn-GOOD DOG!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Stretch-GOOD DOG!!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Watch TV all day-GOOD DOG!!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Intimidate the ****out of the mailman-GOOD DOG!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Dig a hole in the back yard that is deep enough from me to fall into
>>> > and
>>> > disappear-GOOD DOG!!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Roll in something dead-GOOD DOG!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Kill that skunk-GOOD DOG
>>> >
>>> > Eat the cat food-GOOD DOG!!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Chase the cat-GOOD DOG!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Jump up on the bed after I've gone to sleep and step on my head-GOOD
>>> DOG!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Eat $200.00 worth of food a month-GOOD DOG!!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Steal a loaf of bread off the kitchen counter-GOOD DOG!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Steal a pound of butter off the kitchen counter-GOOD DOG!!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Steal a pound of cheese off the counter-GOOD DOG!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Steal a brisket off the kitchen counter and eat it on the living room
>>> > carpet-GOOD DOG!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Drink out of your bowl and then walk up and drool all over me-GOOD DOG!
>>> >
>>> > Drink out of the toilet and then walk up and drool all over me-GOOD
>>> > DOG!
>>> >
>>> > Bark feriociously at any sound that you hear within 100 meters of the
>>> house
>>> > between midnight and sunrise and literally vibrate the walls to the
>> point
>>> > where I am bounced out of bed-GOOD DOG!!!!!!!
>>> >
>>> > Pretend that my favorite pillow is a rabbit that you need to kill-GOOD
>>> > DOG!!!!
>>> >
>>> > There are other commands that they will obey also, but these are the
>> best
>>> > ones when you really need instant obedience.
>>> >
>>> > ;o)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>perhaps you can ask your brother about this...he's used to getting the
blame. ;o)

On 3 Jul 2005 18:51:46 +1000, "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>Far as I can tell the only real difference between PCI 2.2 and PCI 2.3 is
>that in 2.3 they no longer supply 5V to PCI cards. That's the only difference
>anyone has really named as far as I can tell.
>
>They even still use the 5V slotted PCI connector, and accept 5V signalling,
>but don't supply 5 volts to the cards.
>
>Seems downright stupid to me, or am I missing something?
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.Is 98SE preferable to ME? Ta.
I presume XP - although now do-able - is not as safe as either of the above.


Thanks,
Dan

Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>yes Windows 2000 sucks balls to put it in technical terms.:)
>
>Sick with 98SE unless you need to use some app that won't work on it.
>Other wise use XP Home.
>
>
>
>Chris
>
>DMorrell wrote:
>
>> I've been running Paris on 98SE with very few problems. I'd like to
>> run a couple of other apps on the same rig - is anyone running Paris
>> on 2000 Pro? If so, any drawbacks?
>>
>> Thanks - Don
>
>--
>Chris Ludwig
>ADK
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com <mailto:chrisl@adkproaudio.com>
>www.adkproaudio.com <http://www.adkproaudio.com/>
>(859) 635-5762Ok, I've got an Asus A7V8X and an Asus A7V-600X. Presumably this has the PCI
sharing issue Mr S describes below. I'm running a dual head G450 AGP, a PCI
graphics card, 1 x EDS, 1 x Korg Oasys. I may also run another EDS, a UAD
(or similar) and/or a PCI controller card or Firewire card. (I also have
IDE and SATA hard drives, and occasionally use USB hard-drives / CD-RWs).


If I've got this right, I should run the audio cards in 3, 4, 5 (though I'm
a little confued as to why, and what about sharing on PCI 3 and 5 with SATA,
Usb, and IDE...? What's wrong with PCI 2...?). This would require putting
the graphics cards and any other cards on PCI 1 and 2, but wasn't it recommended
to put the first EDS card in the first free PCI slot? What would the consequence
be of running a fourth audio card in an Asus mobo...?

Confused!
Daniel



"Mr Simplicity" <animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote:
>Alos........my experience with AMI bios was less than thrilling. Award Bios
>is much better, IMHO. MSImobo's use the AMI bios (or they did last time
I
>looked). I would check this out before I made the jump.
>
>Deej
>
>
>"Mr Simplicity" <animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote in message
>news:42c72eda@linux...
>> I tried one of these boards before I got my ASUS board. I had some *major*
>> issues with it, though it's been so long ago that I don't remember all
of
>> them.......and they could have been related to my Matrox video cards
>and/or
>> my SBS chassis
>>
>> I think Erling uses this successfully though. He's your man, I think.
>>
>> Deej
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:42c7282e$1@linux...
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm guessing this wont fit EDS cards. Can someone who pulls their system
>> > apart often and really knows the size and shape of EDS cards and MBs
>> confirm
>> > that you will or wont fit EDS cards into slots 1, 2 and maybe 3 on this
>> board...
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Kim.
>>
>>
>
>my preference is SE

On 3 Jul 2005 20:06:54 +1000, "Dan B" <daniel_burneNOSPAM@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>Is 98SE preferable to ME? Ta.
>I presume XP - although now do-able - is not as safe as either of the above.
>
>
>Thanks,
>Dan
>
>Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>>yes Windows 2000 sucks balls to put it in technical terms.:)
>>
>>Sick with 98SE unless you need to use some app that won't work on it.
>>Other wise use XP Home.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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