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I have a EDS not playing [message #65133]

Fri, 03 March 2006 09:32

Jamey Tiffee

Messages: 17
Registered: November 2005

Junior Member

Hey guys I have had this problem before but can't for the life of me
remember how to resolve it.
I have a 3 EDS setup with 2 MEC's no ADAT cards all running on an AMD
Athlon with XP. Subsystem is all right and the install is fine.
What is happening is if I hookup both MEC's then card C will not
playback. If I disconnect MEC B and use only the Master MEC on card A
all 3 EDS' playback no sweat. Hook up the 2nd MEC and no playback on
card C only cards A & B.

Any thoughts?

Also anyone have the plugin latency chart I have heard of floating around?

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Re: I have a EDS not playing [message #65134 is a reply to message #65133]

Fri, 03 March 2006 10:00

Tom Bruhl

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Jamey,
Make sure the second Mec is attached to card C.
This could do it.
Tom

"Jamey Tiffee" <jstiffee_nospam@allassomusic.com> wrote in message =
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What is happening is if I hookup both MEC's then card C will not=20
playback. If I disconnect MEC B and use only the Master MEC on card A=20
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Any thoughts?

Also anyone have the plugin latency chart I have heard of floating =
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Re: I have a EDS not playing [message #65135 is a reply to message #65133]

Fri, 03 March 2006 10:01

Messages: 61
Registered: July 2005

Member

I only have a MEC and a 442 but I believe I had a similar problem when I
expanded from a 2 EDS card system to 3. It's a little foggy but I think the
problem was resolved by trying various combinations of interface to EDS
cards until I got one that worked. I also may have rerouted the internal
ribbon interconnect cables. If I remenber correctly, none of the card
letter designations appeared where I expected them to. Hope this helps.

RZ

"Jamey Tiffee" <jstiffee_nospam@allassomusic.com> wrote in message
news:44087e7b$1@linux...
> Hey guys I have had this problem before but can't for the life of me
> remember how to resolve it.
> I have a 3 EDS setup with 2 MEC's no ADAT cards all running on an AMD
> Athlon with XP. Subsystem is all right and the install is fine.
> What is happening is if I hookup both MEC's then card C will not playback.
> If I disconnect MEC B and use only the Master MEC on card A all 3 EDS'
> playback no sweat. Hook up the 2nd MEC and no playback on card C only
> cards A & B.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Also anyone have the plugin latency chart I have heard of floating around?

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Re: I have a EDS not playing [message #65136 is a reply to message #65135]

Fri, 03 March 2006 11:07

Tom Bruhl

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Jamey,
I know the second Mec has to be attached to the last card for everything
to work. As RZ says maybe you don't know which is your last card?.

Good luck and keep us posted.
Tom
"RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message =
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I only have a MEC and a 442 but I believe I had a similar problem when =
I=20
expanded from a 2 EDS card system to 3. It's a little foggy but I =
think the=20
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EDS=20
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internal=20
ribbon interconnect cables. If I remenber correctly, none of the card =

letter designations appeared where I expected them to. Hope this =
helps.

RZ

"Jamey Tiffee" <jstiffee_nospam@allassomusic.com> wrote in message=20
news:44087e7b$1@linux...
> Hey guys I have had this problem before but can't for the life of me =

> remember how to resolve it.
> I have a 3 EDS setup with 2 MEC's no ADAT cards all running on an =
AMD=20
> Athlon with XP. Subsystem is all right and the install is fine.
> What is happening is if I hookup both MEC's then card C will not =
playback.=20
> If I disconnect MEC B and use only the Master MEC on card A all 3 =
EDS'=20
> playback no sweat. Hook up the 2nd MEC and no playback on card C =
only=20
> cards A & B.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Also anyone have the plugin latency chart I have heard of floating =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jamey,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I know the second Mec has to be =
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last card for everything</FONT></DIV>
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don't know=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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only have a MEC and a 442 but I believe I had a similar problem when I =

<BR>expanded from a 2 EDS card system to 3.  It's a little foggy =
but I=20
think the <BR>problem was resolved by trying various combinations of =
interface=20
to EDS <BR>cards until I got one that worked.  I also may have =
rerouted=20
the internal <BR>ribbon interconnect cables.  If I remenber =
correctly,=20
none of the card <BR>letter designations appeared where I expected =
them=20
to.  Hope this helps.<BR><BR>RZ<BR><BR><BR>"Jamey Tiffee" <<A=20
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Hey guys I=20
have had this problem before but can't for the life of me <BR>> =
remember=20
how to resolve it.<BR>> I have a 3 EDS setup with 2 MEC's no ADAT =
cards all=20
running on an AMD <BR>> Athlon with XP. Subsystem is all right and =
the=20
install is fine.<BR>> What is happening is if I hookup both MEC's =
then card=20
C will not playback. <BR>> If I disconnect MEC B and use only the =
Master=20
MEC on card A all 3 EDS' <BR>> playback no sweat. Hook up the 2nd =
MEC and=20
no playback on card C only <BR>> cards A & B.<BR>><BR>> =
Any=20
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Re: I have a EDS not playing [message #65140 is a reply to message #65136]

Fri, 03 March 2006 18:40

Jamey Tiffee

Messages: 17
Registered: November 2005

Junior Member

Tom Bruhl wrote:
> Jamey,
> I know the second Mec has to be attached to the last card for everything
> to work. As RZ says maybe you don't know which is your last card?.
>
> Good luck and keep us posted.
> Tom
>
> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net <mailto:pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net>>
> wrote in message news:440885cf@linux...
> I only have a MEC and a 442 but I believe I had a similar problem
> when I
> expanded from a 2 EDS card system to 3. It's a little foggy but I
> think the
> problem was resolved by trying various combinations of interface to EDS
> cards until I got one that worked. I also may have rerouted the
> internal
> ribbon interconnect cables. If I remenber correctly, none of the card
> letter designations appeared where I expected them to. Hope this helps.
>
> RZ
>
>
> "Jamey Tiffee" <jstiffee_nospam@allassomusic.com
> <mailto:jstiffee_nospam@allassomusic.com>> wrote in message
> news:44087e7b$1@linux...
> > Hey guys I have had this problem before but can't for the life of me
> > remember how to resolve it.
> > I have a 3 EDS setup with 2 MEC's no ADAT cards all running on an
> AMD
> > Athlon with XP. Subsystem is all right and the install is fine.
> > What is happening is if I hookup both MEC's then card C will not
> playback.
> > If I disconnect MEC B and use only the Master MEC on card A all 3
> EDS'
> > playback no sweat. Hook up the 2nd MEC and no playback on card C
> only
> > cards A & B.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Also anyone have the plugin latency chart I have heard of
> floating around?
>
No I have my PCI order marked and have the 2nd MEC on card B but I
thought it worked like that before oh well I will find out tonight
thanks guys
Jamey

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Re: I have a EDS not playing [message #65141 is a reply to message #65140]

Fri, 03 March 2006 18:45

Deej [1]

Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006

Senior Member

2nd MEC needs to be on card C. It is possible to get this working on card B
if you are using an external WC. I don't know why this is, but I did it
once. It wasn't very reliable though so I bought another MEC so I could have
an interface on each card. That opens another can of worms though because if
you use more than two IF's, then you *have* to have an external WC.

Deej

"Jamey Tiffee" <jstiffee_nospam@allassomusic.com> wrote in message
news:4408fec9@linux...
> Tom Bruhl wrote:
> > Jamey,
> > I know the second Mec has to be attached to the last card for everything
> > to work. As RZ says maybe you don't know which is your last card?.
> >
> > Good luck and keep us posted.
> > Tom
> >
> > "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net <mailto:pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net>>
> > wrote in message news:440885cf@linux...
> > I only have a MEC and a 442 but I believe I had a similar problem
> > when I
> > expanded from a 2 EDS card system to 3. It's a little foggy but I
> > think the
> > problem was resolved by trying various combinations of interface to
EDS
> > cards until I got one that worked. I also may have rerouted the
> > internal
> > ribbon interconnect cables. If I remenber correctly, none of the
card
> > letter designations appeared where I expected them to. Hope this
helps.
> >
> > RZ
> >
> >
> > "Jamey Tiffee" <jstiffee_nospam@allassomusic.com
> > <mailto:jstiffee_nospam@allassomusic.com>> wrote in message
> > news:44087e7b$1@linux...
> > > Hey guys I have had this problem before but can't for the life of
me
> > > remember how to resolve it.
> > > I have a 3 EDS setup with 2 MEC's no ADAT cards all running on an
> > AMD
> > > Athlon with XP. Subsystem is all right and the install is fine.
> > > What is happening is if I hookup both MEC's then card C will not
> > playback.
> > > If I disconnect MEC B and use only the Master MEC on card A all 3
> > EDS'
> > > playback no sweat. Hook up the 2nd MEC and no playback on card C
> > only
> > > cards A & B.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Also anyone have the plugin latency chart I have heard of
> > floating around?
> >
> No I have my PCI order marked and have the 2nd MEC on card B but I
> thought it worked like that before oh well I will find out tonight
> thanks guys
> Jamey

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Re: I have a EDS not playing [message #65142 is a reply to message #65133]

Fri, 03 March 2006 20:40

steve the artguy
Messages: 308
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

Jamey Tiffee <jstiffee_nospam@allassomusic.com> wrote:

>
>Also anyone have the plugin latency chart I have heard of floating around?

here's one from the archives: (courtesy of rick)

plug latency in samples
1176 4098
1176se 4096
LA2A 4094
CAMBRIDGE EQ 4096
DM1 4118
DM1L 4096
DREAMVERB 4071
EX-1 4096
GATE 4119
CS-1 4316
MOD FILTER 7884 and only on the first
waveform
PHAZOR 4096
PULTEC EQ 4109
REALVERB 4118
RS-1 4096
TREMELO/ECHO 4096
TREMELO 4096

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Re: I have a EDS not playing [message #65146 is a reply to message #65142]

Fri, 03 March 2006 23:18

Jamey Tiffee

Messages: 17
Registered: November 2005

Junior Member

steve the artguy wrote:
> Jamey Tiffee <jstiffee_nospam@allassomusic.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Also anyone have the plugin latency chart I have heard of floating around?
>
>
> here's one from the archives: (courtesy of rick)
>
> plug latency in samples
> 1176 4098
> 1176se 4096
> LA2A 4094
> CAMBRIDGE EQ 4096
> DM1 4118
> DM1L 4096
> DREAMVERB 4071
> EX-1 4096
> GATE 4119
> CS-1 4316
> MOD FILTER 7884 and only on the first
> waveform
> PHAZOR 4096
> PULTEC EQ 4109
> REALVERB 4118
> RS-1 4096
> TREMELO/ECHO 4096
> TREMELO 4096
>
>
>
>
Thank you

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Re: I have a EDS not playing [message #65147 is a reply to message #65141]

Fri, 03 March 2006 23:18

Jamey Tiffee

Messages: 17
Registered: November 2005

Junior Member

DJ wrote:
> 2nd MEC needs to be on card C. It is possible to get this working on card B
> if you are using an external WC. I don't know why this is, but I did it
> once. It wasn't very reliable though so I bought another MEC so I could have
> an interface on each card. That opens another can of worms though because if
> you use more than two IF's, then you *have* to have an external WC.
>
> Deej
>
>
> "Jamey Tiffee" <jstiffee_nospam@allassomusic.com> wrote in message
> news:4408fec9@linux...
>
>>Tom Bruhl wrote:
>>
>>>Jamey,
>>>I know the second Mec has to be attached to the last card for everything
>>>to work. As RZ says maybe you don't know which is your last card?.
>>>
>>>Good luck and keep us posted.
>>>Tom
>>>
>>> "RZ" <pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net <mailto:pearlmusic@sbcglobal.net>>
>>> wrote in message news:440885cf@linux...
>>> I only have a MEC and a 442 but I believe I had a similar problem
>>> when I
>>> expanded from a 2 EDS card system to 3. It's a little foggy but I
>>> think the
>>> problem was resolved by trying various combinations of interface to
>
> EDS
>
>>> cards until I got one that worked. I also may have rerouted the
>>> internal
>>> ribbon interconnect cables. If I remenber correctly, none of the
>
> card
>
>>> letter designations appeared where I expected them to. Hope this
>
> helps.
>
>>> RZ
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jamey Tiffee" <jstiffee_nospam@allassomusic.com
>>> <mailto:jstiffee_nospam@allassomusic.com>> wrote in message
>>> news:44087e7b$1@linux...
>>> > Hey guys I have had this problem before but can't for the life of
>
> me
>
>>> > remember how to resolve it.
>>> > I have a 3 EDS setup with 2 MEC's no ADAT cards all running on an
>>> AMD
>>> > Athlon with XP. Subsystem is all right and the install is fine.
>>> > What is happening is if I hookup both MEC's then card C will not
>>> playback.
>>> > If I disconnect MEC B and use only the Master MEC on card A all 3
>>> EDS'
>>> > playback no sweat. Hook up the 2nd MEC and no playback on card C
>>> only
>>> > cards A & B.
>>> >
>>> > Any thoughts?
>>> >
>>> > Also anyone have the plugin latency chart I have heard of
>>> floating around?
>>>
>>
>>No I have my PCI order marked and have the 2nd MEC on card B but I
>>thought it worked like that before oh well I will find out tonight
>>thanks guys
>>Jamey
>
>
>
You guys are right it worked perfectly, thanks

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