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Will this MOBO run Paris XP ? [message #98222] Fri, 25 April 2008 10:24 Go to next message
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Will this MOBO run Paris XP ?

MSI 648F Neo MS-6585

http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=648F_Neo -L
Re: Will this MOBO run Paris XP ? [message #98241 is a reply to message #98222] Fri, 25 April 2008 17:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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Looks like it should, but shut off the CPU hyperthreading in the BIOS. Other
things to kill are serial/LPT ports, USB and onboard audio if you're
planning on loading the PCI slots. If you're not using networking, kill that
also in the BIOS. These are not 'have to' things, but with 6 PCI slots I bet
there's a lot of PCI sharing going on.... and that can mean troubles.

That brings my next question: what PCI spec are those slots, the web page
didn't say. They look to be keyed properly in the photo FWIW, but I'd
confirm it.

Don't buy a cheap power supply, get something decent. Ditto the RAM. I buy
only Crucial RAM (www.crucial.com) unless a mobo manufacturer specifically
demands something else.

AA


"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:481213dc$1@linux...
>
> Will this MOBO run Paris XP ?
>
> MSI 648F Neo MS-6585
>
> http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=648F_Neo -L
Re: Will this MOBO run Paris XP ? [message #98247 is a reply to message #98241] Fri, 25 April 2008 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
excelav is currently offline  excelav   
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Thanks Aaron! This is the MOBO I'm currently running with a P4 2.4GHz. It's
in a Antec tower with a Antec 400 watt SmartPower power supply. There is
some issues with memory with this MOBO, so I'm running only 512 k, I think
it's Kingston memory. PCI slots are standard 133.

When I have time I'm going to wipe a 160 GB drive to start fresh and install
Paris on XP. Do you think I should go with server pack 1 or 2?

"Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>Looks like it should, but shut off the CPU hyperthreading in the BIOS. Other

>things to kill are serial/LPT ports, USB and onboard audio if you're
>planning on loading the PCI slots. If you're not using networking, kill
that
>also in the BIOS. These are not 'have to' things, but with 6 PCI slots I
bet
>there's a lot of PCI sharing going on.... and that can mean troubles.
>
>That brings my next question: what PCI spec are those slots, the web page

>didn't say. They look to be keyed properly in the photo FWIW, but I'd
>confirm it.
>
>Don't buy a cheap power supply, get something decent. Ditto the RAM. I buy

>only Crucial RAM (www.crucial.com) unless a mobo manufacturer specifically

>demands something else.
>
>AA
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:481213dc$1@linux...
>>
>> Will this MOBO run Paris XP ?
>>
>> MSI 648F Neo MS-6585
>>
>> http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=648F_Neo -L
>
>
Re: Will this MOBO run Paris XP ? [message #98250 is a reply to message #98247] Fri, 25 April 2008 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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I use SP1 w/o any troubles. I didn't see anything of real value to a DAW =
in SP2. However, my machine will not ever be an internet machine. Keep =
it lean, clean and focused on DAW duties.=20

What I meant by PCI slots is what spec...... 2.1, 2.2, 2.3?

I would definitely dump the Kingston. Get whatever the manufacturer said =
to get for that model. If you can't find what they spec'd anymore go to =
www.crucial.com and get what they say to get. Get a matched pair of =
512's, they're cheaper than yard dirt these days, and a GB is plenty to =
run ParisXP. www.musicxp.net will have some good optimization tips, =
also.=20

An antec 400 is 'probably' good for 2, maybe 3 EDS cards. No more IMO, =
of course depending on what other stuff you have on it. As you add more =
hard drives and CD/DVD drives, be aware of power drain. FWIW, Brian T =
didn't even had a optical CD/DVD drive in his DAW. He fed out via =
removable FW drives. Extras create extra possible headaches. Get it =
built as a solid system, then you can add stuff. Be methodical, move =
slowly and you'll be a heck of a lot less likely to pull your hair out =
chasing any ghosts.=20

Now, you are going to use a separate audio drive, right? (grandfatherly =
voice)
Memory writes, caching and the such make recording to the OS drive =
generally a bad idea, no matter who's OS.=20

Oh, you didn't say but if that's not an nVidia video card, I'd dump it =
based on my past experiences. Get at minimum 64 MB vid ram per screen =
output, more if you can. Paris loves it some nVidia/GeForce. Don't load =
a bunch of video card/gaming crapware, keep it simple 'n' clean. Native =
XP drivers if they exist. Try TXmicro.com or something similar for =
surplus cards, again priced like dirt these days for AGP but soon you =
won't be able to find those vintage parts.=20

Buy Norton Ghost, or Acronis True Image. Use it. Believe me now or =
believe me later on that.=20

AA



"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message =
news:48129b64$1@linux...
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> Thanks Aaron! This is the MOBO I'm currently running with a P4 =
2.4GHz. It's
> in a Antec tower with a Antec 400 watt SmartPower power supply. There =
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> some issues with memory with this MOBO, so I'm running only 512 k, I =
think
> it's Kingston memory. PCI slots are standard 133. =20
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> When I have time I'm going to wipe a 160 GB drive to start fresh and =
install
> Paris on XP. Do you think I should go with server pack 1 or 2?
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> "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude> wrote:
>>Looks like it should, but shut off the CPU hyperthreading in the BIOS. =
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>>Don't buy a cheap power supply, get something decent. Ditto the RAM. I =
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>>
>>AA
>>
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message=20
>>news:481213dc$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Will this MOBO run Paris XP ?
>>>
>>> MSI 648F Neo MS-6585
>>>
>>> http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=3D648F_N eo-L=20
>>
>>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Buy Norton Ghost, or Acronis True =
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Believe me now or believe me later on that. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>AA</FONT></DIV>
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Thanks Aaron!&nbsp;=20
This is the MOBO I'm currently running with a P4 2.4GHz. It's<BR>&gt; in =
a Antec=20
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is<BR>&gt; some=20
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<BR>&gt;=20
When I have time I'm going to wipe a 160 GB drive to start fresh and=20
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If you're=20
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Re: Will this MOBO run Paris XP ? [message #98324 is a reply to message #98250] Tue, 29 April 2008 08:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Ludwig is currently offline  Chris Ludwig   UNITED STATES
Messages: 868
Registered: May 2006
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Hi Aaron,
The new Norton Ghost sucks balls! :)
Acronis True Image 11 is excellent as well as Paragon drive back up.
Paragon is probably a bit to techie for most folks though.

Chris


Aaron Allen wrote:
> I use SP1 w/o any troubles. I didn't see anything of real value to a DAW
> in SP2. However, my machine will not ever be an internet machine. Keep
> it lean, clean and focused on DAW duties.
>
> What I meant by PCI slots is what spec...... 2.1, 2.2, 2.3?
>
> I would definitely dump the Kingston. Get whatever the manufacturer said
> to get for that model. If you can't find what they spec'd anymore go to
> www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com> and get what they say to get
> < http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=MS-6585%20 V5.0%20%28648F%20Neo%29>.
> Get a matched pair of 512's, they're cheaper than yard dirt these days,
> and a GB is plenty to run ParisXP. www.musicxp.net
> <http://www.musicxp.net> will have some good optimization tips, also.
>
> An antec 400 is 'probably' good for 2, maybe 3 EDS cards. No more IMO,
> of course depending on what other stuff you have on it. As you add more
> hard drives and CD/DVD drives, be aware of power drain. FWIW, Brian T
> didn't even had a optical CD/DVD drive in his DAW. He fed out via
> removable FW drives. Extras create extra possible headaches. Get it
> built as a solid system, then you can add stuff. Be methodical, move
> slowly and you'll be a heck of a lot less likely to pull your hair out
> chasing any ghosts.
>
> Now, you are going to use a separate audio drive, right? (grandfatherly
> voice)
> Memory writes, caching and the such make recording to the OS drive
> generally a bad idea, no matter who's OS.
>
> Oh, you didn't say but if that's not an nVidia video card, I'd dump it
> based on my past experiences. Get at minimum 64 MB vid ram per screen
> output, more if you can. Paris loves it some nVidia/GeForce. Don't load
> a bunch of video card/gaming crapware, keep it simple 'n' clean. Native
> XP drivers if they exist. Try TXmicro.com or something similar for
> surplus cards, again priced like dirt these days for AGP but soon you
> won't be able to find those vintage parts.
>
> Buy Norton Ghost, or Acronis True Image. Use it. Believe me now or
> believe me later on that.
>
> AA
>
>
>
> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com <mailto:excelsm@hotmail.com>>
> wrote in message news:48129b64$1@linux...
> >
> > Thanks Aaron! This is the MOBO I'm currently running with a P4
> 2.4GHz. It's
> > in a Antec tower with a Antec 400 watt SmartPower power supply. There is
> > some issues with memory with this MOBO, so I'm running only 512 k, I
> think
> > it's Kingston memory. PCI slots are standard 133.
> >
> > When I have time I'm going to wipe a 160 GB drive to start fresh and
> install
> > Paris on XP. Do you think I should go with server pack 1 or 2?
> >
> > "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude
> <mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude>> wrote:
> >>Looks like it should, but shut off the CPU hyperthreading in the
> BIOS. Other
> >
> >>things to kill are serial/LPT ports, USB and onboard audio if you're
> >>planning on loading the PCI slots. If you're not using networking, kill
> > that
> >>also in the BIOS. These are not 'have to' things, but with 6 PCI slots I
> > bet
> >>there's a lot of PCI sharing going on.... and that can mean troubles.
> >>
> >>That brings my next question: what PCI spec are those slots, the web page
> >
> >>didn't say. They look to be keyed properly in the photo FWIW, but I'd
> >>confirm it.
> >>
> >>Don't buy a cheap power supply, get something decent. Ditto the RAM.
> I buy
> >
> >>only Crucial RAM (www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com>) unless a
> mobo manufacturer specifically
> >
> >>demands something else.
> >>
> >>AA
> >>
> >>
> >>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com <mailto:excelsm@hotmail.com>>
> wrote in message
> >>news:481213dc$1@linux...
> >>>
> >>> Will this MOBO run Paris XP ?
> >>>
> >>> MSI 648F Neo MS-6585
> >>>
> >>> http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=648F_Neo -L
> >>
> >>
> >

--
Chris Ludwig

ADK Pro Audio
(859) 635-5762
www.adkproaudio.com
chrisl@adkproaudio.com
Re: Will this MOBO run Paris XP ? [message #98325 is a reply to message #98324] Tue, 29 April 2008 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Allen is currently offline  Aaron Allen   UNITED STATES
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sad, yet not surprising. Norton fouled up everything else they do I guess it
was a matter of time.

AA

"Chris Ludwig" <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote in message
news:48173d05$1@linux...
> Hi Aaron,
> The new Norton Ghost sucks balls! :)
> Acronis True Image 11 is excellent as well as Paragon drive back up.
> Paragon is probably a bit to techie for most folks though.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Aaron Allen wrote:
>> I use SP1 w/o any troubles. I didn't see anything of real value to a DAW
>> in SP2. However, my machine will not ever be an internet machine. Keep it
>> lean, clean and focused on DAW duties.
>> What I meant by PCI slots is what spec...... 2.1, 2.2, 2.3?
>> I would definitely dump the Kingston. Get whatever the manufacturer said
>> to get for that model. If you can't find what they spec'd anymore go to
>> www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com> and get what they say to get
>> < http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=MS-6585%20 V5.0%20%28648F%20Neo%29>.
>> Get a matched pair of 512's, they're cheaper than yard dirt these days,
>> and a GB is plenty to run ParisXP. www.musicxp.net
>> <http://www.musicxp.net> will have some good optimization tips, also.
>> An antec 400 is 'probably' good for 2, maybe 3 EDS cards. No more IMO,
>> of course depending on what other stuff you have on it. As you add more
>> hard drives and CD/DVD drives, be aware of power drain. FWIW, Brian T
>> didn't even had a optical CD/DVD drive in his DAW. He fed out via
>> removable FW drives. Extras create extra possible headaches. Get it built
>> as a solid system, then you can add stuff. Be methodical, move slowly and
>> you'll be a heck of a lot less likely to pull your hair out chasing any
>> ghosts.
>> Now, you are going to use a separate audio drive, right? (grandfatherly
>> voice)
>> Memory writes, caching and the such make recording to the OS drive
>> generally a bad idea, no matter who's OS.
>> Oh, you didn't say but if that's not an nVidia video card, I'd dump it
>> based on my past experiences. Get at minimum 64 MB vid ram per screen
>> output, more if you can. Paris loves it some nVidia/GeForce. Don't load a
>> bunch of video card/gaming crapware, keep it simple 'n' clean. Native XP
>> drivers if they exist. Try TXmicro.com or something similar for surplus
>> cards, again priced like dirt these days for AGP but soon you won't be
>> able to find those vintage parts.
>> Buy Norton Ghost, or Acronis True Image. Use it. Believe me now or
>> believe me later on that.
>> AA
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com <mailto:excelsm@hotmail.com>>
>> wrote in message news:48129b64$1@linux...
>> >
>> > Thanks Aaron! This is the MOBO I'm currently running with a P4
>> 2.4GHz. It's
>> > in a Antec tower with a Antec 400 watt SmartPower power supply. There
>> is
>> > some issues with memory with this MOBO, so I'm running only 512 k, I
>> think
>> > it's Kingston memory. PCI slots are standard 133. >
>> > When I have time I'm going to wipe a 160 GB drive to start fresh and
>> install
>> > Paris on XP. Do you think I should go with server pack 1 or 2?
>> >
>> > "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude
>> <mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude>> wrote:
>> >>Looks like it should, but shut off the CPU hyperthreading in the BIOS.
>> Other
>> >
>> >>things to kill are serial/LPT ports, USB and onboard audio if you're
>> >>planning on loading the PCI slots. If you're not using networking,
>> kill
>> > that
>> >>also in the BIOS. These are not 'have to' things, but with 6 PCI slots
>> I
>> > bet
>> >>there's a lot of PCI sharing going on.... and that can mean troubles.
>> >>
>> >>That brings my next question: what PCI spec are those slots, the web
>> page
>> >
>> >>didn't say. They look to be keyed properly in the photo FWIW, but I'd
>> >>confirm it.
>> >>
>> >>Don't buy a cheap power supply, get something decent. Ditto the RAM. I
>> buy
>> >
>> >>only Crucial RAM (www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com>) unless a
>> mobo manufacturer specifically
>> >
>> >>demands something else.
>> >>
>> >>AA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com <mailto:excelsm@hotmail.com>>
>> wrote in message
>> >>news:481213dc$1@linux...
>> >>>
>> >>> Will this MOBO run Paris XP ?
>> >>>
>> >>> MSI 648F Neo MS-6585
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=648F_Neo -L
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>
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Re: Will this MOBO run Paris XP ? [message #98328 is a reply to message #98324] Tue, 29 April 2008 13:57 Go to previous message
Rod Lincoln is currently offline  Rod Lincoln
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Crap, I recomended (a couple months ago) Norton Ghost to a friend. :-(
I use Ghost 2003
Rod
Chris Ludwig <chrisl@adkproaudio.com> wrote:
>Hi Aaron,
>The new Norton Ghost sucks balls! :)
>Acronis True Image 11 is excellent as well as Paragon drive back up.
>Paragon is probably a bit to techie for most folks though.
>
>Chris
>
>
>Aaron Allen wrote:
>> I use SP1 w/o any troubles. I didn't see anything of real value to a DAW

>> in SP2. However, my machine will not ever be an internet machine. Keep

>> it lean, clean and focused on DAW duties.
>>
>> What I meant by PCI slots is what spec...... 2.1, 2.2, 2.3?
>>
>> I would definitely dump the Kingston. Get whatever the manufacturer said

>> to get for that model. If you can't find what they spec'd anymore go to

>> www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com> and get what they say to get

>> < http://www.crucial.com/store/listparts.aspx?model=MS-6585%20 V5.0%20%28648F%20Neo%29>.
>
>> Get a matched pair of 512's, they're cheaper than yard dirt these days,

>> and a GB is plenty to run ParisXP. www.musicxp.net
>> <http://www.musicxp.net> will have some good optimization tips, also.
>>
>> An antec 400 is 'probably' good for 2, maybe 3 EDS cards. No more IMO,

>> of course depending on what other stuff you have on it. As you add more

>> hard drives and CD/DVD drives, be aware of power drain. FWIW, Brian T

>> didn't even had a optical CD/DVD drive in his DAW. He fed out via
>> removable FW drives. Extras create extra possible headaches. Get it
>> built as a solid system, then you can add stuff. Be methodical, move
>> slowly and you'll be a heck of a lot less likely to pull your hair out

>> chasing any ghosts.
>>
>> Now, you are going to use a separate audio drive, right? (grandfatherly

>> voice)
>> Memory writes, caching and the such make recording to the OS drive
>> generally a bad idea, no matter who's OS.
>>
>> Oh, you didn't say but if that's not an nVidia video card, I'd dump it

>> based on my past experiences. Get at minimum 64 MB vid ram per screen

>> output, more if you can. Paris loves it some nVidia/GeForce. Don't load

>> a bunch of video card/gaming crapware, keep it simple 'n' clean. Native

>> XP drivers if they exist. Try TXmicro.com or something similar for
>> surplus cards, again priced like dirt these days for AGP but soon you

>> won't be able to find those vintage parts.
>>
>> Buy Norton Ghost, or Acronis True Image. Use it. Believe me now or
>> believe me later on that.
>>
>> AA
>>
>>
>>
>> "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com <mailto:excelsm@hotmail.com>>
>> wrote in message news:48129b64$1@linux...
>> >
>> > Thanks Aaron! This is the MOBO I'm currently running with a P4
>> 2.4GHz. It's
>> > in a Antec tower with a Antec 400 watt SmartPower power supply. There
is
>> > some issues with memory with this MOBO, so I'm running only 512 k,
I
>> think
>> > it's Kingston memory. PCI slots are standard 133.
>> >
>> > When I have time I'm going to wipe a 160 GB drive to start fresh and

>> install
>> > Paris on XP. Do you think I should go with server pack 1 or 2?
>> >
>> > "Aaron Allen" <know-spam@not_here.dude
>> <mailto:know-spam@not_here.dude>> wrote:
>> >>Looks like it should, but shut off the CPU hyperthreading in the
>> BIOS. Other
>> >
>> >>things to kill are serial/LPT ports, USB and onboard audio if you're
>> >>planning on loading the PCI slots. If you're not using networking,
kill
>> > that
>> >>also in the BIOS. These are not 'have to' things, but with 6 PCI slots
I
>> > bet
>> >>there's a lot of PCI sharing going on.... and that can mean troubles.
>> >>
>> >>That brings my next question: what PCI spec are those slots, the web
page
>> >
>> >>didn't say. They look to be keyed properly in the photo FWIW, but I'd
>> >>confirm it.
>> >>
>> >>Don't buy a cheap power supply, get something decent. Ditto the RAM.

>> I buy
>> >
>> >>only Crucial RAM (www.crucial.com <http://www.crucial.com>) unless
a
>> mobo manufacturer specifically
>> >
>> >>demands something else.
>> >>
>> >>AA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com <mailto:excelsm@hotmail.com>>

>> wrote in message
>> >>news:481213dc$1@linux...
>> >>>
>> >>> Will this MOBO run Paris XP ?
>> >>>
>> >>> MSI 648F Neo MS-6585
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=648F_Neo -L
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>
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>Chris Ludwig
>
>ADK Pro Audio
>(859) 635-5762
>www.adkproaudio.com
>chrisl@adkproaudio.com
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