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OT: dual-boot and disappearing cd drive [message #61809] Fri, 23 December 2005 10:13 Go to next message
duncan is currently offline  duncan   UNITED STATES
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, step by
>>>step. If you're involved in any of that, kudos to you!
>>>
>>>For now, OSX and the available software for OSX offers a very capable

>>>platform for the media production I do, and the dual 2.5GHZ box I use

>>>is, for the most part, amazing. The kernel may have drawbacks for server
>>
>>
>>>use, but it has some very nice features that support audio, video and

>>>graphics system-wide.
>>>
>>>It's not perfect, mind you. That's still out there waiting to happen.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>> -Jamie
>>> http://www.JamieKrutz.com
>>>
>>>
>>>Remember, in addition to what
>>>
>>>>I do with audio apps I work 50-80 hour weeks as a network admin and developer.
>>>>And I hate M$oft just as
Re: OT: dual-boot and disappearing cd drive [message #61811 is a reply to message #61809] Fri, 23 December 2005 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EK Sound is currently offline  EK Sound   CANADA
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mbs down on server apps using open source software
> >>>(apparently not optimized for OSX?), and point out that specific
choices
> >>
> >>
> >>>in the kernel are shown to be slower than Linux. It would be
interesting
> >>
> >>
> >>>to see if the several OSX updates since then have done anything to
> >>>address that. For my use as a workstation, their limited examples make
>
> >>>it look like OSX on G5 is not a bad choice when software is optimized
>
> >>>for altivec. Actually it looked pretty good. And we're not talking quad
> >>
> >>
> >>>mac here which conceivably would be some amount better yet.
> >>
> >>
> >> Well, unless Apple changed the kernel and, oh, most of the OS I can't
> imagine
> >> the situation is a lot better.
> >
> >I dunno. We can speculate.
> >
> >
> >> So then, let's get back to the original post. Morgan says Pete Leoni
has
> >> had OS X running on pretty junky X86 hardware and that it's
benchmarking
> >> the daylights out of G5 boxes. A Mac enthusiast says BS on that, and I
> chime
> >> in that Morgan may be right because OS X is extremely inefficient in
some
> >> areas that are crucial for high p
Re: dual-boot and disappearing cd drive [message #61813 is a reply to message #61809] Fri, 23 December 2005 10:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
erlilo is currently offline  erlilo   NORWAY
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kely? Why would Apple tell all of their PPC users that
they've
> been sucking up CPU cycles all of these years by using faulty kernel
technology?
> Why would they spend time on the kernel space of an operating system
they've
> already decided to drop in the end? Why not just talk about how
"optimized"
> the new X86 version of OS X is and make everyone buy new hardware?
>
> TCB
>
> >Cheers,
> > -Jamie
> > http://www.JamieKrutz.com
> >
> >
> >> TCB
> >>
> >>
> >>>OTOH, the Opteron looked pretty good, too. It will be very interesting
>
> >>>to look at the upcoming Intel dual Yonah processor with OSX, in
> >>>(rumored) another couple of weeks, and see how that combination does.
>
> >>>This is all a moving target.
> >>>
> >>>In the other link, the main bias is the same as yours: OSX is not open
>
> >>>source from top to bottom. True. Beyond that complaint, with his
> >>>specific statistical software he finds better performance under Linux
>
> >>>when testing on a couple of older G5 boxes. Not sure if this says much
>
> >>>about the music/graphics/video/animation apps that I use (other than
his
> >>
> >>
> >>>complaint about accessing his PVR files, in which case maybe he should
>
> >>>consider the ElGato digital video boxes which work fine - although they
> >>
> >>
> >>> may not have been out when he wrote his review - the HD one rocks).
> >>>But I can see why he made th
Re: dual-boot and disappearing cd drive [message #61818 is a reply to message #61813] Fri, 23 December 2005 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
duncan is currently offline  duncan   UNITED STATES
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is used. Holds its own
>(their
>> >>
>> >> >>>example, LightWave - more examples would be appreciated but that's
>> not
>> >>
>> >> >>>their focus). I use LW so it's pertinent to me.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> That's not what I read. What I read is that OS X is disastrous at
>> >managing
>> >> >> mutliple threads. Most, but not all, workstation apps use relatively
>> >few
>> >> >> threads. Something like LW or AfterEffects will usually be only
a
>few
>> >> threads
>> >> >> and the penalty for bad multi-threading will be minimal. Audio apps
>> are
>> >> usually
>> >> >> more thread heavy than almost anything else that is "workstation"
>level
>> >> work,
>> >> >> so the consistently reported miserable performance with DP might
>make
>> >> some
>> >> >> sense.
>> >> >
>> >> >I dunno. Logic runs tons of tracks and plugins in real time. Its
>> >> >performance is hardly "disastrous." Final Cut is not "disastrous"
in
>> >> >real life performance. Etc. So perhaps this achilles heel is
>overstated
>> >>
>> >> >when it comes what I need in a studio box.
>> >> >
>> >> >Maybe because I started on an Atari 800XL, I'm quite impressed with
>the
>> >>
>> >> >G5 or OSX in the studio. :^)
>> >> >
>> >> >However, if I were running a server, there Linux is king. And I am
>> >> >keeping an eye Linux for future media production use, as it advances
>> in
>> >>
>> >> >those areas.
>> >>
>> >> OK, so now we've gone from accusing me of peddling urban legend to
>arguing
>> >> that your Mac works for you, becuase I provided precisely the proof
for
>> >which
>> >> you asked. That's like me saying your car has an inefficient engine,
>you
>> >> telling me I'm full of it, me showing you, and then you arguing that
it
>> >gets
>> >> you to and from work. Fine, your Mac gets done what you want it to,
>which
>> >> has nothing to do with the question that was originally pos
Re: dual-boot and disappearing cd drive [message #61832 is a reply to message #61818] Sat, 24 December 2005 01:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
erlilo is currently offline  erlilo   NORWAY
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. Just getting the cds will make my season actually. I
get a ton of joy from their music so whatever I don't get I'll buy right
after christmas. They suck though cuz they don't have T-shirts and hats
and other swag that a good groupie needs.

John
I wonder if Mutt will fit in a tv box.......hmmm

Edna wrote:
> I asked for Nuendo and CuBase and Kontakt and Halion and Wavelab and RME
> 56xx and Reaktor and Absynth and Acid and Reason and a partridge. . . . . -
> actually I used to raise partridges, and they are delicious.
> Happy holidays to everyone!
>
> "Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
> news:43acacb3$1@linux...
>
>>
>>
>>I hope Santa brings you some goodies, What did everyone ask for?
>> I asked for a manley ELOP and the Chander Germanium pre, I wonder if the
>>elves can make U47s. By the way is there a differnece between an elf and
>>a faery? DO they hang wiht Dwarves?
>>
>>
>>
>>"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Tony,
>>>
>>>Take care on your trip and have a good one.
>>>
>>>Deej
>>>
>>>"Tony Benson" <tony@standinghampton.com> wrote in message
>>>news:43ac8956@linux...
>>>
>>>>Well, I'm getting ready to leave for all the family gatherings this
>>>
>>>weekend
>>>
>>>>and don't know if I'll have access to the web again until Monday night.
>>
>>If
>>
>>>>not, here's wishing everyone here Merry Christmas. I know it's not the
>>
>>PC
>>
>>>>thing to do anymore, but I don't say it to exclude anyone. I say it in
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>spirit of brotherly love no matter what your beliefs. If you're
>
> offended,
>
>>>>then may I at least wish you Happy Holidays. Be safe in your travels,
>>>
>>>show
>>>
>>>>respect, and cherish the people you love.
>>>>
>>>>Peace,
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>haha i read the post before I saw who it was from but knew immediately
upon reading it that it was you rick. Happy Holidays my friend. Now
where is Nappy ????

rick wrote:
> i just want to be the great puppet master who pulls all the strings in
> the universe or...a jar of really good peanut butter...either will do.
>
> merry christmas
>
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:02:41 -0600, "Edna" <edna@texomaonline.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I asked for Nuendo and CuBase and Kontakt and Halion and Wavelab and RME
>>56xx and Reaktor and Absynth and Acid and Reason and a partridge. . . . . -
>>actually I used to raise partridges, and they are delicious.
>>Happy holidays to everyone!
>>
>>"Cujo" <chris@nospamapplemanstudio.com> wrote in message
>>news:43acacb3$1@
Re: dual-boot and disappearing cd drive [message #61840 is a reply to message #61832] Sat, 24 December 2005 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jorsi is currently offline  Jorsi   GREENLAND
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n 'safe'-mode and go into hardware and delete all of
>the cd-drives you find and then re-start the machine.
>Hope it helps
>merry xmas
>Jorsi
>
>"erlilo" <erlilo@online.no> skrev i en meddelelse news:43ad12ee@linux...
>> Chas, the system must first see the cd/dvd drive before it can be updated.
>> Maybe you can try "Find new hardware" one more time manually and not
>> automatic, to see if there's some cd drivers to install. Also see if
>> "mscdex.exe" and "mscdrom.cat" are missing in your Windows System maps a
>> place. Maybe it needs to be reinstalled from the compressed CAB files.
>> Maybe have Windows installed the compressed CAB files a place in the
>> Windows map to search in, as in WinME. If not, you will find them in some
>> of the compressed CABfiles on the Win98 installation CD. Maybe you must
>> use WinXP to look and search in those CAB's to find the missing files and
>> copy them to a place on the harddisk where also Win98 can find them to be
>> reinstalled in their correct maps. Hope some of these ideas can be a
>> helping hand.
>>
>> ErlingSweet suffering Odin slurping on a bowl of Bovril. Egads. Debian, musician,
single, 30, massage therapist? Lemme think, what precisely WOULDN'T I do?

Send me an mp3 so my loss can be rendered with yet great detail . . .

TCB

"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>Just turned 30. Single, musically talented, excellent genes, intelligent
and
>a massage therapist specializing in cranial sacral .......if you want to
>hear one of her songs that she recorded in a studio in Boston, I'll shoot
>you an MP3 via PM.
>
>If I wasn't an old married dude...........
>
>;o)
>
>"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43ac8ece$1@linux...
>>
>> A female musican who knows about Ubuntu? Uh, is she single?
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> TCB
>>
>> >> You have been warned . . .
>> >>
>> >
>> >I'll take that as an encouragement ;o). It may be a couple of weeks
>before
>> I
>> >can come up for air, but I've always wanted to get into this stuff. Also,
>> >it's interesting about Ubuntu. I have a studio client whose nomme de
>guerre
>> >is Ubuntu. She is very savvy and actually, now that I think of it the
>> >project she left here last year on a bunch of CD's was tracked up in
your
>> >neighborhood on a DP system and she wanted to do some dubs here then
>remix
>> >the whole project. Then Bush was reelected and she totally wigged and
>moved
>> >to Kauai. I think she's into Linux'esque stuff quite a bit. Her dad is
my
>> >dentist here and told me the other day that she's coming back to town
>(today
>> >or tomorrow) and wants to do some more work in the studio. I sold her
my
>> >Ensoniq MR76 before she split and she had it shipped over to the islands
>> so
>> >she's likely to have a bunch of midi songs to import into my MR Rack.
>I'll
>> >see if she will give me some Linux pointers between Christmas and the
>middle
>> >of January.
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >
>> >Deej
>> >
>> >"TCB" <nobody@ishere.com> wrote in message news:43ac8714$1@linux...
>> >>
>> >> Hey Deej,
>> >>
>> >> Remember, for media production GNU\Linux is probably a non-starter.
The
>> 2D
>> >> graphic design is getting pretty good, basic video editing is also
>> >improving
>> >> notably, but all of the proprietary stuff that makes the audio world
go
>> >'round
>> >> (VST, ASIO, DX, Audio
Re: dual-boot and disappearing cd drive [message #61844 is a reply to message #61840] Sat, 24 December 2005 08:56 Go to previous message
duncan is currently offline  duncan   UNITED STATES
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elsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:43ac68e1@linux...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >>Why not just talk about how "optimized"
>> >> >> >the new X86 version of OS X is and make everyone buy new hardware?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >.......which is exactly the plan.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >;o)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Apple's game is to sell you obsolescence so you will have to buy
the
>> >next
>> >> >> box, but that is everybody's game not just apple. Job promised
a G5
>> >> >PowerBook
>> >> >> to be available a year ago July, IBM dropped the ball. IBM couldn't
>> >> >deliver
>> >> >> a cool enough G5 to put in a lap top, they were also supposed to
>> >deliver
>> >> >> a G5 3Ghz+ at the same time. IBM still has not been able to pull
>> >either
>> >> >> off as of yet. That is why Apple went to a quad processor to stay
>> on
>> >> top.
>> >> >> Apple had no good choice, but to exercise their option to go with
>> >Intel
>> >> >> chips. I for one welcome the idea of a cheaper, possibly faster,
>more
>> >> >upgradeable
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