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Why not Protools? [message #80220]

Sat, 17 February 2007 15:32

Dave Geoghegan
Messages: 8
Registered: June 2005

Junior Member

Hi,
I see all of the folks who are moving off Paris seem to be moving somewhere
other than Protools. Why? Price? Sound? I'm getting ready to make the move
and am strongly considering PT. Thoughts?

Dave

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Re: Why not Protools? [message #80221 is a reply to message #80220]

Sat, 17 February 2007 14:50

Deej [4]

Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007

Senior Member

My take on it is that the HD system just doesn't make that much sense as
computers get faster and faster. Once you go native, Steinber just kicks PT
LE's butt as far as functionality and ability to integrate with the
latest/greatest.......YMMV.

Deej

"Dave Geoghegan" <daveg@knowledgextensions.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hi,
> I see all of the folks who are moving off Paris seem to be moving
> somewhere
> other than Protools. Why? Price? Sound? I'm getting ready to make the move
> and am strongly considering PT. Thoughts?
>
> Dave

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Re: Why not Protools? [message #80222 is a reply to message #80220]

Sat, 17 February 2007 17:14

chuck duffy
Messages: 453
Registered: July 2005

Senior Member

Dave,

If you can afford a DIGI DSP based system (HD3?), then I would do it. Native,
there are better options, as DJ pointed out.

Chuck

"Dave Geoghegan" <daveg@knowledgextensions.com> wrote:
>
>Hi,
> I see all of the folks who are moving off Paris seem to be moving somewhere
>other than Protools. Why? Price? Sound? I'm getting ready to make the move
>and am strongly considering PT. Thoughts?
>
>Dave

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Re: Why not Protools? [message #80224 is a reply to message #80220]

Sat, 17 February 2007 16:27

Messages: 327
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

I'm on PT HD2 here.

I love it. With plugins like Phoenix and others that are available now, it sounds great. I'm going to be testing out the Fulcrum summing box shortly also with my API's.
I also have Logic 7, DP5 and have used Cubase SX before, but for me for audio work and ease of use, PT is pretty hard to beat. It's midi is lacking, but I'm getting more used to it.

It's nice to have the card DSP plus the native dsp combined.

Cheers,

TC

Dave Geoghegan wrote:
> Hi,
> I see all of the folks who are moving off Paris seem to be moving somewhere
> other than Protools. Why? Price? Sound? I'm getting ready to make the move
> and am strongly considering PT. Thoughts?
>
> Dave

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Re: Why not Protools? [message #80240 is a reply to message #80221]

Sun, 18 February 2007 04:49

Sarah

Messages: 608
Registered: February 2007

Senior Member

Er . . . excuse my technical deficit, but what do you mean by "go native"?

Sarah

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45d786bc@linux...
> My take on it is that the HD system just doesn't make that much sense as
> computers get faster and faster. Once you go native, Steinber just kicks
> PT LE's butt as far as functionality and ability to integrate with the
> latest/greatest.......YMMV.
>
> Deej
>
> "Dave Geoghegan" <daveg@knowledgextensions.com> wrote in message
> news:45d78282$1@linux...
>>
>> Hi,
>> I see all of the folks who are moving off Paris seem to be moving
>> somewhere
>> other than Protools. Why? Price? Sound? I'm getting ready to make the
>> move
>> and am strongly considering PT. Thoughts?
>>
>> Dave
>
>

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Re: Why not Protools? [message #80243 is a reply to message #80220]

Sun, 18 February 2007 06:22

Aaron Allen

Messages: 1988
Registered: May 2008

Senior Member

Mainly, I've been wise to the Digi upgrade game for too long and I don't do
a daily production routine anymore to give Avid any more of my $$$. Paris is
still doing tonally what I need of it, and a 2nd native system covers the
workflow deficits.

AA

"Dave Geoghegan" <daveg@knowledgextensions.com> wrote in message
news:45d78282$1@linux...
>
> Hi,
> I see all of the folks who are moving off Paris seem to be moving
> somewhere
> other than Protools. Why? Price? Sound? I'm getting ready to make the move
> and am strongly considering PT. Thoughts?
>
> Dave

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Re: Why not Protools? [message #80255 is a reply to message #80240]

Sun, 18 February 2007 09:48

Deej [4]

Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007

Senior Member

To go native:

..........................to use a DAW platform that depends on the native
processing power of the computer only rather than using onboard DSP
processing power as in Pro Tools, or Paris.

I have also *gone native* whils't living in the tropics amongst the
indigenous peoples of southern Mexico and central America.....the adoption
of regional dress, language and cuisine was pretty easy to handle and but I
eventually wussed out because to go *completely* native would eventually
have led to converting to Catholicism.

;o)

"Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message news:45d84b8f$1@linux...
> Er . . . excuse my technical deficit, but what do you mean by "go
> native"?
>
> Sarah
>
>
> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45d786bc@linux...
>> My take on it is that the HD system just doesn't make that much sense as
>> computers get faster and faster. Once you go native, Steinber just kicks
>> PT LE's butt as far as functionality and ability to integrate with the
>> latest/greatest.......YMMV.
>>
>> Deej
>>
>> "Dave Geoghegan" <daveg@knowledgextensions.com> wrote in message
>> news:45d78282$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I see all of the folks who are moving off Paris seem to be moving
>>> somewhere
>>> other than Protools. Why? Price? Sound? I'm getting ready to make the
>>> move
>>> and am strongly considering PT. Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Why not Protools? [message #80256 is a reply to message #80255]

Sun, 18 February 2007 10:08

Messages: 327
Registered: September 2005

Senior Member

DJ wrote:
but I
> eventually wussed out because to go *completely* native would eventually
> have led to converting to Catholicism.
>
> ;o)
>

What kind of converters would you use for that? Hopefully not Behringer..

Talk about hellfire.. (ba doom boom..) :-)

Cheers,

TC

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Re: Why not Protools? [message #80259 is a reply to message #80256]

Sun, 18 February 2007 10:13

Deej [4]

Messages: 1292
Registered: January 2007

Senior Member

sooo....this would be a fire and brimstone kinda' conversion?

;o)

"TC" <tc@spammetodeathyoubastards.org> wrote in message
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> DJ wrote:
> but I
>> eventually wussed out because to go *completely* native would eventually
>> have led to converting to Catholicism.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>
>
> What kind of converters would you use for that? Hopefully not Behringer..
>
> Talk about hellfire.. (ba doom boom..) :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> TC

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Re: Why not Protools? [message #80260 is a reply to message #80255]

Sun, 18 February 2007 11:14

gene lennon
Messages: 565
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote:
>To go native:
>I have also *gone native* whils't living in the tropics amongst the
>indigenous peoples of southern Mexico and central America.....the adoption

>of regional dress, language and cuisine was pretty easy to handle and but
I
>eventually wussed out because to go *completely* native would eventually

>have led to converting to Catholicism.
>
You will have a similar experience if you choose to move to New Jersey.
Gene

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Re: Why not Protools? [message #80272 is a reply to message #80220]

Sun, 18 February 2007 12:39

TCB
Messages: 1261
Registered: July 2007

Senior Member

I haven't seriously tried to work with Pro Tools for probably two versions
or so, but last time I checked the MIDI was a miserable pig compared to either
SX or Sonar.

TCB

"Dave Geoghegan" <daveg@knowledgextensions.com> wrote:
>
>Hi,
> I see all of the folks who are moving off Paris seem to be moving somewhere
>other than Protools. Why? Price? Sound? I'm getting ready to make the move
>and am strongly considering PT. Thoughts?
>
>Dave

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Re: Why not Protools? [message #80288 is a reply to message #80255]

Sun, 18 February 2007 16:06

Messages: 199
Registered: February 2006

Senior Member

Perhaps you are making some headways with going native... the average bear
won't be able to do this... unless it is pre-built. I mean, look at
troubles one goes through with DSP board systems like Paris. By going
native, you are opening up a can of worms... Just my opinion and I'll stick
to non-native... With the sound snf stability you get right out of the box
with a system like Paris -or- PT, plus with the sonic sound... it would take
the front line of the Colts to convince me otherwise...

"DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45d89160@linux...
> To go native:
>
> .........................to use a DAW platform that depends on the native
> processing power of the computer only rather than using onboard DSP
> processing power as in Pro Tools, or Paris.
>
> I have also *gone native* whils't living in the tropics amongst the
> indigenous peoples of southern Mexico and central America.....the adoption
> of regional dress, language and cuisine was pretty easy to handle and but
> I eventually wussed out because to go *completely* native would eventually
> have led to converting to Catholicism.
>
> ;o)
>
>
> "Sarah" <sarahjane@sarahtonin.com> wrote in message
> news:45d84b8f$1@linux...
>> Er . . . excuse my technical deficit, but what do you mean by "go
>> native"?
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <www.aarrrrggghhh!!!.com> wrote in message news:45d786bc@linux...
>>> My take on it is that the HD system just doesn't make that much sense as
>>> computers get faster and faster. Once you go native, Steinber just kicks
>>> PT LE's butt as far as functionality and ability to integrate with the
>>> latest/greatest.......YMMV.
>>>
>>> Deej
>>>
>>> "Dave Geoghegan" <daveg@knowledgextensions.com> wrote in message
>>> news:45d78282$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I see all of the folks who are moving off Paris seem to be moving
>>>> somewhere
>>>> other than Protools. Why? Price? Sound? I'm getting ready to make the
>>>> move
>>>> and am strongly considering PT. Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Why not Protools? [message #80294 is a reply to message #80220]

Sun, 18 February 2007 18:30

Chris Latham

Messages: 109
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

I bought a PT 002R and I'm just now digging into it. I know there are
better sounding formats, but in Nashville PT is king. I got it just to try
to stay in the game.

CL

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