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| What's your worst gear purchase? [message #58892] |
Sun, 09 October 2005 17:44  |
DC
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Registered: July 2005
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e is some voodoo
that these folks think they are hearing when MP3's are upsampled to 192kHz.
I've never done this so maybe there is some validity to it, but anyway, they
like having it done this way. As far as the final audio product that is
heard in the film is concerned, 5.1 and higher sample rates aren't taking
the world by storm.......not even a little.
Deej
"DC" <dc@spamyermama.com> wrote in message news:4349c570$1@linux...
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> Here's my .02
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> 1. Everything has to be equal. *Almost always* when someone
> complains about digital it is because of cheap convertors or bad
> engineering. Compare the same convertor at different resolutions
> and you can hear some difference. I've done this with a Lavry and
> it is real, but of smaller magnitude of improvement than most people
> expect.
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> The existence of so many recordings transferred back in the 80's
> on the wretched convertors in the Sony 1630/40 mast
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| Re: What's your worst gear purchase? [message #58900 is a reply to message #58892] |
Sun, 09 October 2005 23:09  |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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you need to record nothing,
copy
> >this to an adjacent track, invert the phase and then do a bounce.
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> >;oP
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> Now, that be some well-crafted nothing!
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> yeah-- ChasOk,
Due to the many posts that maybe misleading if you don't follow all of them
in the right order I decided to summarize what I know regarding senderella
and its use with Paris .
1. Use inside Paris.cfg at the top the string EDSTransfer=8,16 .You
could use 8,8 but this has problems with audio streaming. The 8,16 seems
like the magical number, remember I tried them all....
This is needed because then Senderella works realtime NO LATENCY as a buss
inside Paris.
Senderella seems like the greatest discovery amoung FREE plugins for Paris,
link: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1433.html
Senderella newest version has a redirect option so you can send the signal
and not hear (or hear) the dry signal if you want.
It has 64 bussses ! nad now saves its condition and prest (the version
before could not) after saving your song.
2. Senderella works across submixes ! but the latency in beetween submixes
has to be taken into consideration.
3. So possible uses are
a} Use your favorite DX/VST/UAD1/POWERCORE /EXTERNAL DEVICE reverb as abuss
with senderella.
You occupy two Paris audio tracks for your reverb return using 16bit (24bit
works too) silence paf file.
Here you can create a long 5 minute file or bigger and have it in handy
anytime you want it.
b) Use your favourite compressor VST/DX/UAD!/POWERCORE/EXTERNAL for buss
compression.
4. On both uses the method is around the same.
5. Senderella although showing up as it is in Paris as vst does not let the
audio pass the plugin, It stops in senderella so only WET signal can be
send.
this is useful only for bussing say dsrumtracks to a cmpressor and not need
to have also the dry tracks playing.
In that situation no wrapper needs for senderella.
But for full use and potential senderella needs to be wrapped
6. Wrappers that can be used are the FREE Spinaudio lite
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| Re: What's your worst gear purchase? [message #58906 is a reply to message #58892] |
Mon, 10 October 2005 01:52 |
Kim W
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Registered: July 2006
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ortunately, I was out of town and missed the AES/Paris meet and greet,
but I did have a couple of hours yesterday to go to the show and mill about
for a bit. I was impressed with the number of high-end desks with small footprints
by the "big guns". I even ran across the "Star Trek" desk that Gene posted
a picture of a while back (can't recall the manufacturer).
I had an opportunity to check out a number of mic's (though extremely difficult
to discern much with all the ambient noise). Despite this circumstance, I
heard a couple that were interesting. There was a Braumer mic that was suggested
by a respected colleague...can't recall the model, but was pretty nice in
the $1,200 dollar range. I also met Tony ?? from Telefunken...they have a
couple of "economy" mic's that were pretty nice. Although Mojave was not
represented, I was able to check out the SE Gemini and indeed it sounded
nice.... particularly so at the price point that Morgan has offered. I think
I was equally impressed with the girth and weight (Deej, you weren’t kidding
about the support issue).
The highlight for me was meeting Rupert Neve...affable guy. I purchased his
new pre "Portico"...seems pretty impressive (thanks for the heads up Gene)
and he said he would grace the box with his signature.
It would have been nice too hook up with my fellow Parisites, but hey, there's
always next time.
TyroneSimmons SDS7. This was the mid eighties. The SDS5 (original) had sounded cool
and the new SDS7 was incorperating "digital samples" with analog. It sounded
like total crap.
I saw JR Robinson playing them at a NAMM show (with Alan Pasqua, Dan Huff,
and Neil Stubenhaus...whew!!!) and his sounded good. I talked to him after
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| Re: What's your worst gear purchase? [message #58911 is a reply to message #58892] |
Mon, 10 October 2005 07:04 |
Rod Lincoln
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Registered: September 2005
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ency.
>If you put a DX reverb you probably will get 0 latency !!, so no
>compensation needed at all.
>It ius like having AUX with DX effect for Paris !
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>19. Now if you insist of using a UAD1 plugin reverb, the to compensate you
>do the following:
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>You nudge ALL YOUR TRACKS (except for the reverb return on tracks 15 and
>16-well even if you put it there too nothing will happen anyway- )100ms
to
>the left and put voxengo sample delay (Try this instead of AnalogX DX
>plugin because you have the 64 plugin limit and with VST plugins NO LIMIT
>Then put inside latency plugin 384 samples to the right.
>Thus all processed tracks will be alligned to reverb return on tracks.
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>That is for now.
>Please ask questions so I can see where I did my wrong homework...
>Regards,
>Dimitrios
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>Some conversation or something I read lately, brings to mind a statement
that a lot of radio stations have gone to mp3s as a medium of storing their
playlists, hence the reason radio would sound like poop. And a friend of
mine just subscribed to Sirius radio 3 or 4 months back and was instantly
disappointed with the low quality "streaming sound" of the audio. I asked
him about it last week to see if he was able to do anything about better
reception or playback, and he said, "No, I've just kind of gotten used to
it." Hopefully the audio/data compression technology will continue to
improve, but once again, folks seem to choose convenience over high quality.
..02, CL
"cujo" <chris@applemanstudio.com> wrote in message news:4349d52a$1@linux...
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> Sort of on this topic, anyone notice how bad radio is sounding lately?
> Even the Beatle hour is bad "you ca
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| Re: What's your worst gear purchase? [message #58968 is a reply to message #58892] |
Tue, 11 October 2005 01:58 |
rick
Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006
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1x12, Blonde 2x12, Fane 4x12, Greenback 4x12, Boutique 4x12, Bassman
4x10, '65 Tweed 1x12, Fender Pro 1x15, Ampeg Portaflex, Ashdown 4x10 w/tweeter,
Sunn 200S 2x15, Acoustic 360, Hartke 1x15, SWR Basic Black, Ampeg 8x10, Ashdown
AMB410, SWR Goliath III, Hartke 4x10.
Any suggestions on what combo may sound good with a given sound would be
fantastic. Mostly I'm looking to get some nice hammond B3 and wurlitzer sounds
happenning, so any suggestions specific to those directions would be fantasmalistic!
:o) Keep in mind the rotary speaker effect can be inserted on any of the
amp/cabinet combinations without effecting the sound in any way (other than
to add the rotary effect) so feel free to choose amps based on what would
probably sound good IF it had a Leslie. :o)
Oh, and the machine can also warp between two amps or cabinets, so if you
think "a criss cross of 1/3 this amp and 2/3's this amp" would work, then
we can do that too. :o)
Cheers,
Kim.My best gear purchase:
Baldwin 7' grand piano...
Gantt
DC wrote:
> Here's mine.
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> Yamaha UD Stomp. 8 delays, all programmable, in one box.
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> This thing does sounds you cannot believe. Allan Holdsworth
> programmed a bunch of the sounds and they are terrific.
>
> Without a doubt, the best delay ever made. Everything from the
&g
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