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Senderella_Reverb_No_latency_compensation [message #58974]

Tue, 11 October 2005 05:51

Dimitrios

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egards,
> Dimitrios
> On tracks 15 and 16 on EDS card (assuming you have one) .
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Dimitrios,
That's cool. I have to try it just to implement my hardware
in that way too.
Tom
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
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You can do the same for outboard Reverb like my beloved R-880
You just use the eds inserts for external on Tracks 15 and 16.
You get a 60 samples latency which is not big deal for reverb....
Regards,
Dimitrios
same thing just add the external
"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:434bb593@linux...
> Now we all not have UAD or Powercore cards.
> Maybe some of us who have don't think that they sound exceptional
> Also some may think that certain DX or VST reverbs sound equal or =
even
> better
>
> So,
> We put EDSTransfer=3D8,16 on top of Paris.cfg
> We use Spinaudiolite FREE (see previous psot for link) to wrap =
senderella.
> We put senderella configured as send (default anyway) we put around =
50% of
> volume (that is to prevent buffer clipping inside senderella) and we
> REDIRECT the sound on bottom of senderella.
> We put senderella as a send on each of the tracks we want to use =
reverb.
> Say we have a lead vocal and background voices plus a solo gtr.

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Re: Senderella_Reverb_No_latency_compensation [message #58976 is a reply to message #58974]

Tue, 11 October 2005 06:45

Dimitrios

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That's cool.  I have to try it =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>in that way too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
<A href=3D"news:434bc7fb@linux">news:434bc7fb@linux</A>...</DIV>You =
can do the=20
same for outboard Reverb like my beloved R-880<BR>You just use the eds =
inserts=20
for external on Tracks 15 and 16.<BR>You get a 60 samples latency =
which is not=20
big deal for reverb....<BR>Regards,<BR>Dimitrios<BR>same thing just =
add the=20
external<BR>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
<A href=3D"news:434bb593@linux">news:434bb593@linux</A>...<BR>> Now =
we all=20
not have UAD or Powercore cards.<BR>> Maybe some of us who have =
don't think=20
that they sound exceptional<BR>> Also some may think that certain =
DX or VST=20
reverbs sound equal or even<BR>> better<BR>><BR>> So,<BR>> =
We put=20
EDSTransfer=3D8,16 on top of Paris.cfg<BR>> We use Spinaudiolite =
FREE (see=20
previous psot for link) to wrap senderella.<BR>> We put senderella=20
configured as send (default anyway) we put around 50% of<BR>> =
volume (that=20
is to prevent buffer clipping inside senderella) and we<BR>> =
REDIRECT the=20
sound on bottom of senderella.<BR>> We put senderella as a send on =
each of=20
the tracks we want to use reverb.<BR>> Say we have a lead vocal and =

background voices plus a solo gtr.<BR>> So on all that tracks we =
put=20
senderella as above.<BR>> NOW<BR>> On tracks 15 and 16 you load =
your=20
EMPTY 16 bit paf file of a lenght equal<BR>or<BR>> bigger than your =
actual=20
song.<BR>> On first Native slot you put FFX-4 (free too) as a

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Re: Senderella_Reverb_No_latency_compensation [message #58978 is a reply to message #58974]

Tue, 11 October 2005 07:10

Dimitrios

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p;gt; around 50% (as a start)=20
volume.<BR>> NOW you open inside FFX-4 on second slot a stereo =
reverb like=20
Waves<BR>trueverb<BR>> (if you have it) or DSPFX Studioverb or the =
FREE and=20
nice sounding<BR>Galceverb<BR>> !, FreeverbToo, Classicverb and =
others ( I=20
will gladly email all free and<BR>> nice reverbs if asked =
to)<BR>> NOW=20
you should be hearing your reverb return on tracks 15 and 16 and=20
you<BR>can<BR>> check the NO LATENVY with just having a dry signal =
on=20
reverb's return and<BR>> flip the polarity.<BR>> So we managed =
to have a=20
DX reverb on aux buss inside Paris WHICH CAN BE<BR>> ACROSS =
SUBMIXES=20
!<BR>> Only a small delay of 12 samples plus 2 samples after that =
for=20
additional<BR>> eds cards.<BR>> That is no problem at =
all.<BR>>=20
Afterall you need predelay almost everytime with a reverb.<BR>> If =
you=20
struggle for no predelay just put your precious audio tracks=20
on<BR>first<BR>> submix.<BR>><BR>> Regards,<BR>> =
Dimitrios<BR>>=20
On tracks 15 and 16 on EDS card (assuming you have one)=20
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The files are Winamp Media Files which are mp3s. =20
I want to lay guitar tracks over Steely Dan covers for him. =20
Can I make them individual wavs with either Paris, strip wav or
Wavelab 3.0?

He can send me the individual wavs and I can convert those but we're=20
trying to save a step for him I guess...
Tom

PS Don't eat too much roasted garlic at one sitting.
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Re: Senderella_Reverb_No_latency_compensation [message #58979 is a reply to message #58978]

Tue, 11 October 2005 07:20

Tom Bruhl

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The files are Winamp Media Files =
which are=20
mp3s.  </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I want to lay guitar </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>tracks over Steely Dan covers for him.  </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can I make them individual wavs with =
either Paris,=20
strip wav or</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wavelab 3.0?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>can send me=20
</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the individual wavs and I can convert =
those but=20
we're </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>trying </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>to save a=20
step for him I guess...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS  Don't eat too much roasted =
garlic at one=20
sitting.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Dear Tom,
If you load mp3's on wavelab you can then save them as wave files.
It is that simple.
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:434bd28b@linux...
The files are Winamp Media Files which are mp3s. =20
I want to lay guitar tracks over Steely Dan covers for him. =20
Can I make them individual wavs with either Paris, strip wav or
Wavelab 3.0?

He can send me the individual wavs and I can convert those but we're=20
trying to save a step for him I guess...
Tom

PS Don't eat too much roasted garlic at one sitting.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Tom,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you load mp3's on wavelab you can =
then save them=20
as wave files.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is that simple.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Tom Bruhl" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:arpegio@comcast.net">arpegio@comcast.net</A>> wrote =
in message=20
<A href=3D"news:434bd28b@linux">news:434bd28b@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The files are Winamp Media Files =
which are=20
mp3s.  </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I want to lay guitar </FONT><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>tracks over Steely Dan covers for him.  </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Can I make them individual wavs with =
either=20
Paris, strip wav or</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wavelab 3.0?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>He </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>can send me=20
</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>the individual wavs and I can =
convert those but=20
we're </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>trying </FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>to save a=20
step for him I guess...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tom</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>PS  Don't eat too much roasted =
garlic at one=20
sitting.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Alright, now I have to reinstall Wavelab...

"Dimitrios" <musurgio@otenet.gr> wrote in message =
news:434bd54b@linux...
Dear Tom,
If you load mp3's on wavelab you can then save them as wave files.
It is that simple.
Regards,
Dimitrios
"Tom Bruhl" <arpegio@comcast.net> wrote in message =
news:434bd28b@linux...
The files are Winamp Media Files which are mp3s. =20
I want to lay guitar tracks over Steely Dan covers for him. =20
Can I make them individual wavs with either Paris, strip wav or
Wavelab 3.0?

He can send me the individual wavs and I can convert those but we're =

trying to save a step for him I guess...
Tom

PS Don't eat too much roasted garlic at one sitting.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Alright, now I have to reinstall=20
Wavelab...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Dimitrios" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:musurgio@otenet.gr">musurgio@otenet.gr</A>> wrote in =
message=20
<A href=3D"news:434bd54b@linux">news:434bd54b@linux</A>...</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Tom,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If you load mp3's on wavelab you can =
then save=20
them as wave files.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is that simple.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dimitrios</FONT></DIV>
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