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Dolby A plugin?!? [message #95359] Sat, 02 February 2008 08:39 Go to next message
Gantt Kushner is currently offline  Gantt Kushner   
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I just got some files to mix that came off of 2" 24-track w/ Dolby A NR.
The studio that transfered the tracks to digital doesn't have Dolby A so
they are un-decoded. Is there a Dolby A plugin available anywhere? I can
rent 2 channels of Dolby A to run the tracks thru but it'd be nice (assuming
it doesn't cast more than the rental and studio time to decode 22 tracks!)
to find a digital solution.

Thanks!

Gantt


Gantt Kushner
Gizmo Recording Company
Silver Spring, MD
www.gizmorecording.com
Re: Dolby A plugin?!? [message #95363 is a reply to message #95359] Sat, 02 February 2008 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nei is currently offline  Nei
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I don't know of a Dolby "A" plugin - the only thing I can think
of that you might try is a de-noiser plugin of some type, but I
have a feeling that might not quite cut it, since you're not
really properly decoding the signal (the encoding of which
involves some compression & expansion, as well as the noise
reduction).

You could try a demo of either of these & see if they'll help:

http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/rx/

http://www.voxengo.com/product/redunoise/

Really, though, the best way would be to get the original tape &
have it dubbed into wav files, with the proper decoding, as
I'm sure you know. Make sure you dub duplicates of any vocal
tracks WITHOUT the decoding, too, though... that was a popular
trick back in the day - playing back vocal tracks without the
"A" decoding (or mixing the decoded signal in with the clean,
decoded signal); can impart the vocal with some rasp, or "air"
or a combination thereof, depending on the singer, how hot the
vocal tracks hit the tape, etc.

Can you get the tape? Could the client afford a little bit more
budget to get it properly dubbed off? It might be tough finding
a studio with a pure "A" system on their 2-inch, but IIRC,
Dolby SR can also decode "A", and that's not too hard to find
in studios that still have tape... in fact, I can help you
there if the client's willing to ship the tape(s) & pay a little
bit for the dubbing.

Neil


"Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I just got some files to mix that came off of 2" 24-track w/ Dolby A NR.

>The studio that transfered the tracks to digital doesn't have Dolby A so
>they are un-decoded. Is there a Dolby A plugin available anywhere? I can
>rent 2 channels of Dolby A to run the tracks thru but it'd be nice (assuming
>it doesn't cast more than the rental and studio time to decode 22 tracks!)
>to find a digital solution.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Gantt
Re: Dolby A plugin?!? [message #95402 is a reply to message #95363] Sat, 02 February 2008 15:31 Go to previous message
Don Nafe is currently offline  Don Nafe   CANADA
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It's help and advice like this that keeps me coming back to this forum

Oh yea - that and I still use Paris

:-)

thanks

D


"Neil" <OIUOI@OIU.com> wrote in message news:47a49f90$1@linux...
>
> I don't know of a Dolby "A" plugin - the only thing I can think
> of that you might try is a de-noiser plugin of some type, but I
> have a feeling that might not quite cut it, since you're not
> really properly decoding the signal (the encoding of which
> involves some compression & expansion, as well as the noise
> reduction).
>
> You could try a demo of either of these & see if they'll help:
>
> http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/rx/
>
> http://www.voxengo.com/product/redunoise/
>
> Really, though, the best way would be to get the original tape &
> have it dubbed into wav files, with the proper decoding, as
> I'm sure you know. Make sure you dub duplicates of any vocal
> tracks WITHOUT the decoding, too, though... that was a popular
> trick back in the day - playing back vocal tracks without the
> "A" decoding (or mixing the decoded signal in with the clean,
> decoded signal); can impart the vocal with some rasp, or "air"
> or a combination thereof, depending on the singer, how hot the
> vocal tracks hit the tape, etc.
>
> Can you get the tape? Could the client afford a little bit more
> budget to get it properly dubbed off? It might be tough finding
> a studio with a pure "A" system on their 2-inch, but IIRC,
> Dolby SR can also decode "A", and that's not too hard to find
> in studios that still have tape... in fact, I can help you
> there if the client's willing to ship the tape(s) & pay a little
> bit for the dubbing.
>
> Neil
>
>
> "Gantt Kushner" <ganttmann@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>I just got some files to mix that came off of 2" 24-track w/ Dolby A NR.
>
>>The studio that transfered the tracks to digital doesn't have Dolby A so
>>they are un-decoded. Is there a Dolby A plugin available anywhere? I can
>>rent 2 channels of Dolby A to run the tracks thru but it'd be nice
>>(assuming
>>it doesn't cast more than the rental and studio time to decode 22 tracks!)
>>to find a digital solution.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Gantt
>
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