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I voted??? Technology sucks! [message #75548]

Tue, 07 November 2006 12:33

excelav

Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

Senior Member

Technology sucks!

I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the side
of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know what
to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person on
the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it was
a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped right
at 1:30. There has to be a better way.

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Re: I voted??? Technology sucks! [message #75552 is a reply to message #75548]

Tue, 07 November 2006 13:10

excelav

Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

Senior Member

I also think the people behind the machines are suspect. Can you say fix?

It's not just here in Michigan.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20061107/D8L8DO6O0.html

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Technology sucks!
>
>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the side
>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know what
>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person on
>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it was
>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
right
>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.

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Re: I voted??? Technology sucks! [message #75555 is a reply to message #75552]

Tue, 07 November 2006 13:25

steve the artguy
Messages: 308
Registered: June 2005

Senior Member

James-

I hope someone there had the presence of mind to video tape the episode,
or at least get lots of still pictures, for verificaton.

-steve

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I also think the people behind the machines are suspect. Can you say fix?
>
>It's not just here in Michigan.
>
>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20061107/D8L8DO6O0.html
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Technology sucks!
>>
>>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
side
>>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know what
>>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
on
>>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it was
>>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
>right
>>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.
>

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Re: I voted??? Technology sucks! [message #75558 is a reply to message #75555]

Tue, 07 November 2006 13:48

excelav

Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

Senior Member

"steve the artguy" <artguy@somethingorother.net> wrote:
>
>James-
>
>I hope someone there had the presence of mind to video tape the episode,
>or at least get lots of still pictures, for verificaton.
>
>-steve

I called my local party and told them to get someone over there to over see
how they were handling the situation. With years of good reason, I don't
trust the system or the people behind the systems.
>
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>I also think the people behind the machines are suspect. Can you say fix?
>>
>>It's not just here in Michigan.
>>
>>http://apnews.excite.com/article/20061107/D8L8DO6O0.html
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Technology sucks!
>>>
>>>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>>>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
>side
>>>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know
what
>>>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
>on
>>>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>>>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it
was
>>>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>>>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
>>right
>>>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.
>>
>

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Re: I voted??? Technology sucks! [message #75567 is a reply to message #75548]

Tue, 07 November 2006 15:15

LaMont
Messages: 828
Registered: October 2005

Senior Member

Hey james, I voted in Macomb Twonship, and they were using the paper system.
It went very smooth. No glitches at all..

You situation sounds like some "hanky panky"..

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Technology sucks!
>
>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the side
>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know what
>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person on
>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it was
>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
right
>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.

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without technology we couldn't have this.... (Re: I voted??? Technology sucks!) [message #75572 is a reply to message #75548]

Tue, 07 November 2006 17:40

j-cron

Messages: 23
Registered: October 2006

Junior Member

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az= view_all&address=364x2613562

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without technology we couldn't have this.... (Re: I voted??? Technology sucks!) [message #75573 is a reply to message #75572]

Tue, 07 November 2006 19:01

excelav

Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

Senior Member

Vary ugly! I heard on the news earlier tonight that they found a machine
that would only vote for Democrats. Don't know if that is true, but that
would certainly be unfair and undemocratic if that went unchecked.

James

"j-cron" <jcron@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az= view_all&address=364x2613562
>
>
>

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Re: without technology we couldn't have this.... (Re: I voted??? Technology sucks!) [message #75574 is a reply to message #75573]

Tue, 07 November 2006 18:35

j-cron

Messages: 23
Registered: October 2006

Junior Member

yeah.....

except it was a machine that would only vote for Republicans and it was
2004.

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45513a5c$1@linux...
>
> Vary ugly! I heard on the news earlier tonight that they found a machine
> that would only vote for Democrats. Don't know if that is true, but that
> would certainly be unfair and undemocratic if that went unchecked.
>
> James
>
> "j-cron" <jcron@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az= view_all&address=364x2613562
>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: without technology we couldn't have this.... (Re: I voted??? Technology sucks!) [message #75578 is a reply to message #75574]

Tue, 07 November 2006 19:57

excelav

Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

Senior Member

Either way it's not right!

"j-cron" <jcron@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>yeah.....
>
>except it was a machine that would only vote for Republicans and it was

>2004.
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:45513a5c$1@linux...
>>
>> Vary ugly! I heard on the news earlier tonight that they found a machine
>> that would only vote for Democrats. Don't know if that is true, but that
>> would certainly be unfair and undemocratic if that went unchecked.
>>
>> James
>>
>> "j-cron" <jcron@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az= view_all&address=364x2613562
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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Re: without technology we couldn't have this.... (Re: I voted??? Technology sucks!) [message #75579 is a reply to message #75578]

Tue, 07 November 2006 19:11

j-cron

Messages: 23
Registered: October 2006

Junior Member

agreed...

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45514785$1@linux...
>
> Either way it's not right!
>
> "j-cron" <jcron@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>>yeah.....
>>
>>except it was a machine that would only vote for Republicans and it was
>
>>2004.
>>
>>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:45513a5c$1@linux...
>>>
>>> Vary ugly! I heard on the news earlier tonight that they found a
>>> machine
>>> that would only vote for Democrats. Don't know if that is true, but
>>> that
>>> would certainly be unfair and undemocratic if that went unchecked.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> "j-cron" <jcron@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>>>> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az= view_all&address=364x2613562
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: I voted??? Technology sucks! [message #75586 is a reply to message #75548]

Tue, 07 November 2006 23:23

Jamie K

Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

James, that's disturbing. Sounds like possible disenfranchisement.

One way to help on a national level is to report voting problems here:

http://reportvotingproblems.org/

And report it to your state's election officials.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com

James McCloskey wrote:
> Technology sucks!
>
> I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
> stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the side
> of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know what
> to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person on
> the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
> in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it was
> a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
> and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped right
> at 1:30. There has to be a better way.

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Re: I voted??? Technology sucks! [message #75587 is a reply to message #75548]

Wed, 08 November 2006 01:45

rick

Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006

Senior Member

those damn macs. just when you think they've got them
working...this...sigh

luckily they can still be hand counted.

On 8 Nov 2006 06:33:41 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>Technology sucks!
>
>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the side
>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know what
>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person on
>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it was
>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped right
>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.

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Re: I voted??? Technology sucks! [message #75608 is a reply to message #75587]

Wed, 08 November 2006 09:24

excelav

Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

Senior Member

Has nothing to do with Macs.

rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>those damn macs. just when you think they've got them
>working...this...sigh
>
>luckily they can still be hand counted.
>
>On 8 Nov 2006 06:33:41 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Technology sucks!
>>
>>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
side
>>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know what
>>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
on
>>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it was
>>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
right
>>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.
>

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Re: I voted??? Technology sucks! [message #75612 is a reply to message #75586]

Wed, 08 November 2006 09:30

excelav

Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

Senior Member

Thanks Jamie! I'm not sure it matters much now.

Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>James, that's disturbing. Sounds like possible disenfranchisement.
>
>One way to help on a national level is to report voting problems here:
>
>http://reportvotingproblems.org/
>
>And report it to your state's election officials.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
>> Technology sucks!
>>
>> I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>> stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
side
>> of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know
what
>> to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
on
>> the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>> in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it
was
>> a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>> and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
right
>> at 1:30. There has to be a better way.

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Re: I voted??? Technology sucks! [message #75615 is a reply to message #75586]

Wed, 08 November 2006 09:45

excelav

Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

Senior Member

I filed a report.

Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>
>James, that's disturbing. Sounds like possible disenfranchisement.
>
>One way to help on a national level is to report voting problems here:
>
>http://reportvotingproblems.org/
>
>And report it to your state's election officials.
>
>Cheers,
> -Jamie
> www.JamieKrutz.com
>
>
>James McCloskey wrote:
>> Technology sucks!
>>
>> I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>> stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
side
>> of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know
what
>> to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
on
>> the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>> in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it
was
>> a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>> and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
right
>> at 1:30. There has to be a better way.

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Re: I voted??? Technology sucks! [message #75620 is a reply to message #75612]

Wed, 08 November 2006 09:24

Jamie K

Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

It matters a lot. Collecting reports of voting failures creates a record
that helps support and direct much needed improvements.

Without that record, the inertia of even a failing system is difficult
to overcome, and things may continue to get worse.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com

James McCloskey wrote:
> Thanks Jamie! I'm not sure it matters much now.
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> James, that's disturbing. Sounds like possible disenfranchisement.
>>
>> One way to help on a national level is to report voting problems here:
>>
>> http://reportvotingproblems.org/
>>
>> And report it to your state's election officials.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>> Technology sucks!
>>>
>>> I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>>> stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
> side
>>> of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know
> what
>>> to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
> on
>>> the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>>> in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it
> was
>>> a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>>> and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
> right
>>> at 1:30. There has to be a better way.
>

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Re: I voted??? Technology sucks! [message #75621 is a reply to message #75615]

Wed, 08 November 2006 09:25

Jamie K

Messages: 1115
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

Great! Sorry you had to experience problems but at least your experience
may help head off future problems.

Cheers,
-Jamie
www.JamieKrutz.com

James McCloskey wrote:
> I filed a report.
>
> Jamie K <Meta@Dimensional.com> wrote:
>> James, that's disturbing. Sounds like possible disenfranchisement.
>>
>> One way to help on a national level is to report voting problems here:
>>
>> http://reportvotingproblems.org/
>>
>> And report it to your state's election officials.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jamie
>> www.JamieKrutz.com
>>
>>
>> James McCloskey wrote:
>>> Technology sucks!
>>>
>>> I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>>> stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
> side
>>> of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know
> what
>>> to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
> on
>>> the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>>> in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it
> was
>>> a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>>> and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
> right
>>> at 1:30. There has to be a better way.
>

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Re: I voted??? Technology sucks! [message #75633 is a reply to message #75608]

Wed, 08 November 2006 12:32

rick

Messages: 1976
Registered: February 2006

Senior Member

t'was a joke...

On 9 Nov 2006 03:24:24 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>Has nothing to do with Macs.
>
>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>those damn macs. just when you think they've got them
>>working...this...sigh
>>
>>luckily they can still be hand counted.
>>
>>On 8 Nov 2006 06:33:41 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Technology sucks!
>>>
>>>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>>>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
>side
>>>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know what
>>>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
>on
>>>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>>>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it was
>>>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>>>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
>right
>>>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.
>>

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Re: I voted??? Technology sucks! [message #75635 is a reply to message #75633]

Wed, 08 November 2006 13:54

excelav

Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

Senior Member

I got the joke, rick. If they did use Macs, they wouldn't crash and they
would be harder to hack, but of corse, not impossible.

James

rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>t'was a joke...
>
>On 9 Nov 2006 03:24:24 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Has nothing to do with Macs.
>>
>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>those damn macs. just when you think they've got them
>>>working...this...sigh
>>>
>>>luckily they can still be hand counted.
>>>
>>>On 8 Nov 2006 06:33:41 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Technology sucks!
>>>>
>>>>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting machine
>>>>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
>>side
>>>>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know
what
>>>>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
>>on
>>>>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put ballots
>>>>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it
was
>>>>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30 ballots,
>>>>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
>>right
>>>>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.
>>>
>

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Re: I voted??? Technology sucks! [message #75638 is a reply to message #75635]

Wed, 08 November 2006 13:45

j-cron

Messages: 23
Registered: October 2006

Junior Member

oh lord...

"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:455243fc$1@linux...
>
> I got the joke, rick. If they did use Macs, they wouldn't crash and they
> would be harder to hack, but of corse, not impossible.
>
> James
>
> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>t'was a joke...
>>
>>On 9 Nov 2006 03:24:24 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Has nothing to do with Macs.
>>>
>>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>those damn macs. just when you think they've got them
>>>>working...this...sigh
>>>>
>>>>luckily they can still be hand counted.
>>>>
>>>>On 8 Nov 2006 06:33:41 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Technology sucks!
>>>>>
>>>>>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting
>>>>>machine
>>>>>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on the
>>>side
>>>>>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know
> what
>>>>>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
>>>on
>>>>>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put
>>>>>ballots
>>>>>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that it
> was
>>>>>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30
>>>>>ballots,
>>>>>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
>>>right
>>>>>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.
>>>>
>>
>

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Re: I voted??? Technology sucks! [message #75643 is a reply to message #75638]

Wed, 08 November 2006 15:19

excelav

Messages: 2130
Registered: July 2005
Location: Metro Detroit

Senior Member

By the way, that was tung and cheek, back to Rick!

"j-cron" <jcron@hydrorecords.com> wrote:
>oh lord...
>
>"James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:455243fc$1@linux...
>>
>> I got the joke, rick. If they did use Macs, they wouldn't crash and they
>> would be harder to hack, but of corse, not impossible.
>>
>> James
>>
>> rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>t'was a joke...
>>>
>>>On 9 Nov 2006 03:24:24 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Has nothing to do with Macs.
>>>>
>>>>rick <parnell68@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>those damn macs. just when you think they've got them
>>>>>working...this...sigh
>>>>>
>>>>>luckily they can still be hand counted.
>>>>>
>>>>>On 8 Nov 2006 06:33:41 +1000, "James McCloskey" <excelsm@hotmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Technology sucks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I just voted, well I think I voted??? The scantron style voting
>>>>>>machine
>>>>>>stopped working at 1:30. We had to stuff our ballots in a slot on
the
>>>>side
>>>>>>of the machine. The women that were working there didn't really know
>> what
>>>>>>to do. A women was on a cell phone trying to get help, and the person
>>>>on
>>>>>>the other side on the line kept telling her to keep trying to put
>>>>>>ballots
>>>>>>in the machine. The machine was spitting them out and saying that
it
>> was
>>>>>>a possible folded ballot and to try again. They tried about 30
>>>>>>ballots,
>>>>>>and all they would get was errors. It was odd that the machine stopped
>>>>right
>>>>>>at 1:30. There has to be a better way.
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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