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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64795 is a reply to message #64792] |
Wed, 22 February 2006 00:45   |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Well the power company has been and gone. They have no magic monitoring device
which keeps an eye on your power unfortunately. They checked all the wiring
out the front, saying it's all new, and left.
On the other hand they did say that there have been power problems in the
area, but he said they solved it all about two weeks ago. Funny he said that
as the UPS was making strange clicking noises up until about two weeks ago,
so I'm guessing that may have been related to it. I'm also suspicious that
there may be some other problem that still hasn't been solved. Maybe it's
just a matter of waiting a week or two for a couple more people in the street
to make complaints so they go and find the actual fault.
In any case the server has been running fine since I started this thread.
Let's not panic quite yet...
Cheers,
Kim.
"DC" <dc@spamyermama.org> wrote:
>
>Within limits. The unit's specs will tell you what the voltage
>range it can correct for is. AVR works well for us, but the
>fluctuations are usually within 15% or so. Again, it depends on
>the unit. Consider the range of voltage correction when you pick
>a unit.
>
>One of our clients tried to run a new, rather large sound system off
>one 15-amp circuit that had other stuff on the same circuit (!)
>We warned them, but they didn't want to spend any more money.
>One day they turned on too much stuff at once and the speaker
>DSP manager lost its program file and put out a spike that blew
>up all their HF drivers. 4K later, they upgraded their mains power
>and we put a good UPS on the processor. No problems since
>
>Here, if you suspect fairly large voltage drops or spikes, the power
>company can often be prevailed upon to put a monitor on your line
>to diagnose what is going on. I don't know if your power co.
>provides this service, but it might be worth a call to find out.
>It would tell you what ranges you need to correct for, and you
>never know, the sparkies may find a bad local transformer.
>
>best,
>
>DC
>
>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I assume what DC is talking about, "AVR", means that it will actually do
>>something about brown outs.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Kim.
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64803 is a reply to message #64795] |
Wed, 22 February 2006 08:10 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Senior Member |
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I would drop a leaflet in your neighbors post boxes prompting them to
complain... brownouts are really hard on things like motors (fridge,
A/C, furnace etc.).
David.
Kim wrote:
> Well the power company has been and gone. They have no magic monitoring device
> which keeps an eye on your power unfortunately. They checked all the wiring
> out the front, saying it's all new, and left.
>
> On the other hand they did say that there have been power problems in the
> area, but he said they solved it all about two weeks ago. Funny he said that
> as the UPS was making strange clicking noises up until about two weeks ago,
> so I'm guessing that may have been related to it. I'm also suspicious that
> there may be some other problem that still hasn't been solved. Maybe it's
> just a matter of waiting a week or two for a couple more people in the street
> to make complaints so they go and find the actual fault.
>
> In any case the server has been running fine since I started this thread.
> Let's not panic quite yet...
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "DC" <dc@spamyermama.org> wrote:
>
>>Within limits. The unit's specs will tell you what the voltage
>>range it can correct for is. AVR works well for us, but the
>>fluctuations are usually within 15% or so. Again, it depends on
>>the unit. Consider the range of voltage correction when you pick
>>a unit.
>>
>>One of our clients tried to run a new, rather large sound system off
>>one 15-amp circuit that had other stuff on the same circuit (!)
>>We warned them, but they didn't want to spend any more money.
>>One day they turned on too much stuff at once and the speaker
>>DSP manager lost its program file and put out a spike that blew
>>up all their HF drivers. 4K later, they upgraded their mains power
>>and we put a good UPS on the processor. No problems since
>>
>>Here, if you suspect fairly large voltage drops or spikes, the power
>>company can often be prevailed upon to put a monitor on your line
>>to diagnose what is going on. I don't know if your power co.
>>provides this service, but it might be worth a call to find out.
>>It would tell you what ranges you need to correct for, and you
>>never know, the sparkies may find a bad local transformer.
>>
>>best,
>>
>>DC
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I assume what DC is talking about, "AVR", means that it will actually do
>>>something about brown outs.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64804 is a reply to message #64782] |
Wed, 22 February 2006 08:14 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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> Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
http://www.bobvila.com/ArticleLibrary/Subject/Special_Featur es/Storm-Ready_H
ome/BackupGenerators.html
We don't want you to move. Just get yourself one of these and turn it on
when you leave the house or go to bed. That should suit us just fine.
;o)
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fb8b1b$1@linux...
>
>
> OK, I'll keep that in mind also.
>
> Whether it's like you say and the outage is too quick, or whether it's
like
> others have suggested and the outage is not big enough to cause the UPS to
> kick in (but big enough to effect the server) is still a question...
>
> Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
>
> Cheers,
> Kim.
>
> "Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
> >
> >Kim,
> >
> >It sounds like the duration of the low power condition is too short for
> the
> >current UPS to detect. In this case, an "online" UPS may be necessary.
> >
> >The difference is that an "online" unit provides power from the battery
> 100%
> >of the time compared to a "standby" unit that kicks in a power inverter
> when
> >a brown or blackout condition is detected. Online units are more
expensive
> >though.
> >
> >Hope this helps!
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of
course
> >>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous
UPS
> >>on it... ;o)
> >>
> >>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I went
> >>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does it's
> >>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the
meter
> >>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power
glitch
> >>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a
glitch...
> >>
> >>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house,
the
> >>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that
> seem
> >>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough to
> >effect
> >>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough
> to
> >>fix it.
> >>
> >>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Kim.
> >
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64805 is a reply to message #64804] |
Wed, 22 February 2006 08:21 |
Deej [1]
Messages: 2149
Registered: January 2006
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Sorry.....this is what I was referring to-
http://norwall.com/kohprice.htm
Any of them would probably work OK for a computer. There's a real nifty
natural gas powered one for $23,000.00. I'm trying to figure out how to use
it as a patchbay.
;o)
"DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
news:43fc8f79@linux...
> > Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
>
>
http://www.bobvila.com/ArticleLibrary/Subject/Special_Featur es/Storm-Ready_H
> ome/BackupGenerators.html
>
> We don't want you to move. Just get yourself one of these and turn it on
> when you leave the house or go to bed. That should suit us just fine.
> ;o)
>
>
> "Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fb8b1b$1@linux...
> >
> >
> > OK, I'll keep that in mind also.
> >
> > Whether it's like you say and the outage is too quick, or whether it's
> like
> > others have suggested and the outage is not big enough to cause the UPS
to
> > kick in (but big enough to effect the server) is still a question...
> >
> > Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kim.
> >
> > "Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >Kim,
> > >
> > >It sounds like the duration of the low power condition is too short for
> > the
> > >current UPS to detect. In this case, an "online" UPS may be necessary.
> > >
> > >The difference is that an "online" unit provides power from the battery
> > 100%
> > >of the time compared to a "standby" unit that kicks in a power inverter
> > when
> > >a brown or blackout condition is detected. Online units are more
> expensive
> > >though.
> > >
> > >Hope this helps!
> > >
> > >Mark
> > >
> > >"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of
> course
> > >>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous
> UPS
> > >>on it... ;o)
> > >>
> > >>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I
went
> > >>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does
it's
> > >>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the
> meter
> > >>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power
> glitch
> > >>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a
> glitch...
> > >>
> > >>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house,
> the
> > >>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that
> > seem
> > >>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough
to
> > >effect
> > >>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough
> > to
> > >>fix it.
> > >>
> > >>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
> > >>
> > >>Cheers,
> > >>Kim.
> > >
> >
>
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64806 is a reply to message #64805] |
Wed, 22 February 2006 09:12 |
EK Sound
Messages: 939
Registered: June 2005
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Gotta have geo-thermal back-up as well... that way, if there is ever
an extinction level event, the server will keep running! Oh, wait...
crap... never mind.
David.
DJ wrote:
> Sorry.....this is what I was referring to-
>
> http://norwall.com/kohprice.htm
>
> Any of them would probably work OK for a computer. There's a real nifty
> natural gas powered one for $23,000.00. I'm trying to figure out how to use
> it as a patchbay.
>
> ;o)
>
>
> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
> news:43fc8f79@linux...
>
>>>Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
>>
>>
> http://www.bobvila.com/ArticleLibrary/Subject/Special_Featur es/Storm-Ready_H
>
>>ome/BackupGenerators.html
>>
>>We don't want you to move. Just get yourself one of these and turn it on
>>when you leave the house or go to bed. That should suit us just fine.
>>;o)
>>
>>
>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fb8b1b$1@linux...
>>
>>>
>>>OK, I'll keep that in mind also.
>>>
>>>Whether it's like you say and the outage is too quick, or whether it's
>>
>>like
>>
>>>others have suggested and the outage is not big enough to cause the UPS
>
> to
>
>>>kick in (but big enough to effect the server) is still a question...
>>>
>>>Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Kim.
>>>
>>>"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Kim,
>>>>
>>>>It sounds like the duration of the low power condition is too short for
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>current UPS to detect. In this case, an "online" UPS may be necessary.
>>>>
>>>>The difference is that an "online" unit provides power from the battery
>>>
>>>100%
>>>
>>>>of the time compared to a "standby" unit that kicks in a power inverter
>>>
>>>when
>>>
>>>>a brown or blackout condition is detected. Online units are more
>>
>>expensive
>>
>>>>though.
>>>>
>>>>Hope this helps!
>>>>
>>>>Mark
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of
>>
>>course
>>
>>>>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous
>>
>>UPS
>>
>>>>>on it... ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I
>
> went
>
>>>>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does
>
> it's
>
>>>>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the
>>
>>meter
>>
>>>>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power
>>
>>glitch
>>
>>>>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a
>>
>>glitch...
>>
>>>>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house,
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that
>>>
>>>seem
>>>
>>>>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough
>
> to
>
>>>>effect
>>>>
>>>>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough
>>>
>>>to
>>>
>>>>>fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>
>
>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64810 is a reply to message #64803] |
Wed, 22 February 2006 14:45 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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Not a silly idea at all. I may just do that.
Cheers,
Kim.
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>I would drop a leaflet in your neighbors post boxes prompting them to
>complain... brownouts are really hard on things like motors (fridge,
>A/C, furnace etc.).
>
>David.
>
>Kim wrote:
>> Well the power company has been and gone. They have no magic monitoring
device
>> which keeps an eye on your power unfortunately. They checked all the wiring
>> out the front, saying it's all new, and left.
>>
>> On the other hand they did say that there have been power problems in
the
>> area, but he said they solved it all about two weeks ago. Funny he said
that
>> as the UPS was making strange clicking noises up until about two weeks
ago,
>> so I'm guessing that may have been related to it. I'm also suspicious
that
>> there may be some other problem that still hasn't been solved. Maybe it's
>> just a matter of waiting a week or two for a couple more people in the
street
>> to make complaints so they go and find the actual fault.
>>
>> In any case the server has been running fine since I started this thread.
>> Let's not panic quite yet...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kim.
>>
>> "DC" <dc@spamyermama.org> wrote:
>>
>>>Within limits. The unit's specs will tell you what the voltage
>>>range it can correct for is. AVR works well for us, but the
>>>fluctuations are usually within 15% or so. Again, it depends on
>>>the unit. Consider the range of voltage correction when you pick
>>>a unit.
>>>
>>>One of our clients tried to run a new, rather large sound system off
>>>one 15-amp circuit that had other stuff on the same circuit (!)
>>>We warned them, but they didn't want to spend any more money.
>>>One day they turned on too much stuff at once and the speaker
>>>DSP manager lost its program file and put out a spike that blew
>>>up all their HF drivers. 4K later, they upgraded their mains power
>>>and we put a good UPS on the processor. No problems since
>>>
>>>Here, if you suspect fairly large voltage drops or spikes, the power
>>>company can often be prevailed upon to put a monitor on your line
>>>to diagnose what is going on. I don't know if your power co.
>>>provides this service, but it might be worth a call to find out.
>>>It would tell you what ranges you need to correct for, and you
>>>never know, the sparkies may find a bad local transformer.
>>>
>>>best,
>>>
>>>DC
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I assume what DC is talking about, "AVR", means that it will actually
do
>>>>something about brown outs.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>
>>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64826 is a reply to message #64806] |
Wed, 22 February 2006 23:01 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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Senior Member |
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Now right there you came extremely close to making me spurt my morning cuppa
all over my laptop. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>Gotta have geo-thermal back-up as well... that way, if there is ever
>an extinction level event, the server will keep running! Oh, wait...
>crap... never mind.
>
>David.
>
>DJ wrote:
>> Sorry.....this is what I was referring to-
>>
>> http://norwall.com/kohprice.htm
>>
>> Any of them would probably work OK for a computer. There's a real nifty
>> natural gas powered one for $23,000.00. I'm trying to figure out how to
use
>> it as a patchbay.
>>
>> ;o)
>>
>>
>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>> news:43fc8f79@linux...
>>
>>>>Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.bobvila.com/ArticleLibrary/Subject/Special_Featur es/Storm-Ready_H
>>
>>>ome/BackupGenerators.html
>>>
>>>We don't want you to move. Just get yourself one of these and turn it
on
>>>when you leave the house or go to bed. That should suit us just fine.
>>>;o)
>>>
>>>
>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fb8b1b$1@linux...
>>>
>>>>
>>>>OK, I'll keep that in mind also.
>>>>
>>>>Whether it's like you say and the outage is too quick, or whether it's
>>>
>>>like
>>>
>>>>others have suggested and the outage is not big enough to cause the UPS
>>
>> to
>>
>>>>kick in (but big enough to effect the server) is still a question...
>>>>
>>>>Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
>>>>
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>Kim.
>>>>
>>>>"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Kim,
>>>>>
>>>>>It sounds like the duration of the low power condition is too short
for
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>current UPS to detect. In this case, an "online" UPS may be necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>>The difference is that an "online" unit provides power from the battery
>>>>
>>>>100%
>>>>
>>>>>of the time compared to a "standby" unit that kicks in a power inverter
>>>>
>>>>when
>>>>
>>>>>a brown or blackout condition is detected. Online units are more
>>>
>>>expensive
>>>
>>>>>though.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hope this helps!
>>>>>
>>>>>Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but of
>>>
>>>course
>>>
>>>>>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous
>>>
>>>UPS
>>>
>>>>>>on it... ;o)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when I
>>
>> went
>>
>>>>>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does
>>
>> it's
>>
>>>>>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at the
>>>
>>>meter
>>>
>>>>>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power
>>>
>>>glitch
>>>
>>>>>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a
>>>
>>>glitch...
>>>
>>>>>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house,
>>>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches that
>>>>
>>>>seem
>>>>
>>>>>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough
>>
>> to
>>
>>>>>effect
>>>>>
>>>>>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough
>>>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>>>fix it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64839 is a reply to message #64826] |
Thu, 23 February 2006 08:39 |
Rich[3]
Messages: 132
Registered: January 2006
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Senior Member |
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Just aim away from the server! And never use sugar in the coffee....
"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Now right there you came extremely close to making me spurt my morning cuppa
>all over my laptop. ;o)
>
>Cheers,
>Kim.
>
>EK Sound <askme@nospam.com> wrote:
>>Gotta have geo-thermal back-up as well... that way, if there is ever
>>an extinction level event, the server will keep running! Oh, wait...
>>crap... never mind.
>>
>>David.
>>
>>DJ wrote:
>>> Sorry.....this is what I was referring to-
>>>
>>> http://norwall.com/kohprice.htm
>>>
>>> Any of them would probably work OK for a computer. There's a real nifty
>>> natural gas powered one for $23,000.00. I'm trying to figure out how
to
>use
>>> it as a patchbay.
>>>
>>> ;o)
>>>
>>>
>>> "DJ" <animix_spam-this-ahole_@animas.net> wrote in message
>>> news:43fc8f79@linux...
>>>
>>>>>Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> http://www.bobvila.com/ArticleLibrary/Subject/Special_Featur es/Storm-Ready_H
>>>
>>>>ome/BackupGenerators.html
>>>>
>>>>We don't want you to move. Just get yourself one of these and turn it
>on
>>>>when you leave the house or go to bed. That should suit us just fine.
>>>>;o)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:43fb8b1b$1@linux...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>OK, I'll keep that in mind also.
>>>>>
>>>>>Whether it's like you say and the outage is too quick, or whether it's
>>>>
>>>>like
>>>>
>>>>>others have suggested and the outage is not big enough to cause the
UPS
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>>>kick in (but big enough to effect the server) is still a question...
>>>>>
>>>>>Why couldn't I just live somewhere with better mains! ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Mark McDermott" <mark@stateofwail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Kim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It sounds like the duration of the low power condition is too short
>for
>>>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>current UPS to detect. In this case, an "online" UPS may be necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The difference is that an "online" unit provides power from the battery
>>>>>
>>>>>100%
>>>>>
>>>>>>of the time compared to a "standby" unit that kicks in a power inverter
>>>>>
>>>>>when
>>>>>
>>>>>>a brown or blackout condition is detected. Online units are more
>>>>
>>>>expensive
>>>>
>>>>>>though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hope this helps!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Kim" <hiddensounds@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I've noticed that the power around here is a little unstable, but
of
>>>>
>>>>course
>>>>
>>>>>>>that shouldn't be a problem for the news-server as it has a wonderous
>>>>
>>>>UPS
>>>>
>>>>>>>on it... ;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Well we just got a power glitch here an hour or so back, and when
I
>>>
>>> went
>>>
>>>>>>>to look at the server, "Uh oh!", out of action. I know the UPS does
>>>
>>> it's
>>>
>>>>>>>job at times as, for example, last night I shut down the mains at
the
>>>>
>>>>meter
>>>>
>>>>>>>box for a few seconds and the server kept running fine. This power
>>>>
>>>>glitch
>>>>
>>>>>>>today was only about a second, so I can't see why it would make a
>>>>
>>>>glitch...
>>>>
>>>>>>>...but between the server, the UPS, and the power here in this house,
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>>>>combination isn't happy. Something in the constant power glitches
that
>>>>>
>>>>>seem
>>>>>
>>>>>>>to haunt this area manages to get through this particular UPS enough
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>>>>effect
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the server. I'm suspicious changing any one ingredient would be enough
>>>>>
>>>>>to
>>>>>
>>>>>>>fix it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Looks like I'll be shopping for a new UPS shortly...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>Kim.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Re: NG Outages - A clue... [message #64870 is a reply to message #64839] |
Thu, 23 February 2006 14:42 |
Kim
Messages: 1246
Registered: October 2005
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"Rich" <studiodog_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>Just aim away from the server! And never use sugar in the coffee....
It's alright. The morning cuppa usually happens some 10km East of the server.
Unlikely to hit it at that distance.
The biggest risk to the server is when I make a curry. Don't ask. ;o)
Cheers,
Kim.
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